Mart said:Will Campagnolo Veloce cranks fit onto a shimano bottom bracket? The square axle type.
Mart said:Will Campagnolo Veloce cranks fit onto a shimano bottom bracket? The square axle type.
BS!... The taper is the same 2*. The difference is that the campy starts and ends slighty smaller in cross section. AFWIW, a few mm difference in chainline won't hose shifting.What do you think limit screws are for?fixit said:yes and no. shimano bb axles have a steeper angle. that' is why you can't get the campa cranks in properly. only after re-tightening, when the crankholes get larger, you can tighten them properly maybe you experience shifting problems in the front, because the chainline will be 1-2mm out. your cranks gonna be ****ed, you can't use them on campa bb's anymore.
boudreaux said:BS!... The taper is the same 2*. The difference is that the campy starts and ends slighty smaller in cross section. AFWIW, a few mm difference in chainline won't hose shifting.What do you think limit screws are for?
boudreaux said:BS!... The taper is the same 2*. The difference is that the campy starts and ends slighty smaller in cross section. AFWIW, a few mm difference in chainline won't hose shifting.What do you think limit screws are for?
fixit said:your crank's gonna be ****ed, .
Fat Hack said:COOOOL, I didn't know we could say that
just more BS. I know a few mm doesn't matter cuz I've done these things.In the old days,chainline could be fudged alot easier with different spindle lengths to bias a chainline toward the bigger or smaller cogs depending on which ones got the most use. The #s reflect the ideal chainline, not what works or doesn't. It also isn't dependent on the BB being faced,nor is it different from 9 or 10 or even 8 speed, cuz all the hubs and overall widths of the casettes are essentially the same. Nor is it different from frame to frame.fixit said:.....and a few mm do make a difference: record bb, chainline 43.5mm for double, record bb, chainline 46.5mm for triple. why do you think they give these numbers if a few mm don't matter? why the .5mm? to confuse people? it is also one of the reasons why the bb housing has to be faced properly. it is different from frame to frame, 9s and 10s has an influence on this as well as cheap wheels which are not perfectly centred. then the mm start to add up, chain and sprockets wear down faster, greater resistance if the chain runs in an odd angle.
boudreaux said:just more BS. I know a few mm doesn't matter cuz I've done these things.In the old days,chainline could be fudged alot easier with different spindle lengths to bias a chainline toward the bigger or smaller cogs depending on which ones got the most use. The #s reflect the ideal chainline, not what works or doesn't. It also isn't dependent on the BB being faced,nor is it different from 9 or 10 or even 8 speed, cuz all the hubs and overall widths of the casettes are essentially the same. Nor is it different from frame to frame.
just more BS.And why not with monocoque?fixit said:..... and for facing, some framemakers (not with monocoque carbon frames) make their bb a few mm wider than 68 or 70mm, you have to take off these mm.
boudreaux said:just more BS.And why not with monocoque?
Well, I have never had to face and ream a metal frame.Maybe I just don't get it...EH? I got out of the box a long time ago.fixit said:because the inserted metal things (don't know the word in english) are usually the right size. and if you don't have to weld the tubes together, it will not get out of shape and stay straight during production process. or why do you think you have to face and ream metal frames?
boudreaux said:Well, I have never had to face and ream a metal frame.Maybe I just don't get it...EH? I got out of the box a long time ago.
Yeah, and my Chinese ones are plenty good enough for govt work, but I don't gets no poseur' or bling points.fixit said:no, i don't think that you don't get it. it's a question of just doing things or doing it perfectly (sorry i'm swiss). this is what makes the difference between a taiwan watch and rolex watches.
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