Will Stein or Var crank extractor system work with Stronglight crank?

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  1. Dan Burkhart

    Dan Burkhart New Member

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    Hello all.
    Just wondering if anyone has tried this and met with success.
    My immediate problem is a bike with a TA crank on one side and a Stronglight on the other. I can find an extractor to fit the Stronglight, but I am comming up empty on the TA front. These extractor systems both recut the threads to 24 x 1.5 and include caps to make them self extracting.
    The Stronglight starts at 23.35 mm, so I was curious whether there would be enough material there to cut a viable thread given that the new thread will be a 1.5mm pitch replacing a 1.0.
    Many thanks
    Dan Burkhart
     
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  2. Jay Beattie

    Jay Beattie Guest

    Dan Burkhart wrote:
    > Hello all.
    > Just wondering if anyone has tried this and met with success.
    > My immediate problem is a bike with a TA crank on one side and a
    > Stronglight on the other. I can find an extractor to fit the
    > Stronglight, but I am comming up empty on the TA front. These extractor
    > systems both recut the threads to 24 x 1.5 and include caps to make them
    > self extracting.
    > The Stronglight starts at 23.35 mm, so I was curious whether there
    > would be enough material there to cut a viable thread given that the
    > new thread will be a 1.5mm pitch replacing a 1.0.
    > Many thanks



    Sheldon's site shows a double ended puller that does 23mm cranks. By
    the way, why are you troubling with such a mutt of a set up? I would
    just pull the bolts, ride the cranks till they fell off and then throw
    them away -- but that is just me.

    P.S. -- Too bad I sold my official TA remover to Retro Bob. I still
    have the Stronglight remover, although the crank is long since broken.
    -- Jay Beattie.
     
  3. Dan Burkhart

    Dan Burkhart New Member

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    Well, if it were mine, I would likely consider that, but this bike and the lady who owns it have a lot of history together, and she likes it the way it is.
    Dan
     
  4. john

    john Guest

    Dan Burkhart wrote:
    > Jay Beattie Wrote:
    > > Dan Burkhart wrote:
    > > > Hello all.
    > > > Just wondering if anyone has tried this and met with success.
    > > > My immediate problem is a bike with a TA crank on one side and a
    > > > Stronglight on the other. I can find an extractor to fit the
    > > > Stronglight, but I am comming up empty on the TA front. These

    > > extractor
    > > > systems both recut the threads to 24 x 1.5 and include caps to make

    > > them
    > > > self extracting.
    > > > The Stronglight starts at 23.35 mm, so I was curious whether there
    > > > would be enough material there to cut a viable thread given that the
    > > > new thread will be a 1.5mm pitch replacing a 1.0.
    > > > Many thanks

    > >
    > >
    > > Sheldon's site shows a double ended puller that does 23mm cranks. By
    > > the way, why are you troubling with such a mutt of a set up? I would
    > > just pull the bolts, ride the cranks till they fell off and then throw
    > > them away -- but that is just me.
    > >
    > > P.S. -- Too bad I sold my official TA remover to Retro Bob. I still
    > > have the Stronglight remover, although the crank is long since broken.
    > > -- Jay Beattie.

    >
    > Well, if it were mine, I would likely consider that, but this bike and
    > the lady who owns it have a lot of history together, and she likes it
    > the way it is.
    > Dan


    I beleive if you look carefully enough @ BikeToolsETC. You will find
    what you need. Rhe organization of their sight sucks. They couild use
    Sheldon to build their site, But if U look hard enough or phone them, I
    think youw will find what you need. Sheldon may have them also.

    Good Luck, They are out there, John
     
  5. john wrote:
    > Dan Burkhart wrote:
    > > Jay Beattie Wrote:
    > > > Dan Burkhart wrote:
    > > > > Hello all.
    > > > > Just wondering if anyone has tried this and met with success.
    > > > > My immediate problem is a bike with a TA crank on one side and a
    > > > > Stronglight on the other. I can find an extractor to fit the
    > > > > Stronglight, but I am comming up empty on the TA front. These
    > > > extractor
    > > > > systems both recut the threads to 24 x 1.5 and include caps to make
    > > > them
    > > > > self extracting.
    > > > > The Stronglight starts at 23.35 mm, so I was curious whether there
    > > > > would be enough material there to cut a viable thread given that the
    > > > > new thread will be a 1.5mm pitch replacing a 1.0.
    > > > > Many thanks
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Sheldon's site shows a double ended puller that does 23mm cranks. By
    > > > the way, why are you troubling with such a mutt of a set up? I would
    > > > just pull the bolts, ride the cranks till they fell off and then throw
    > > > them away -- but that is just me.
    > > >
    > > > P.S. -- Too bad I sold my official TA remover to Retro Bob. I still
    > > > have the Stronglight remover, although the crank is long since broken.
    > > > -- Jay Beattie.

    > >
    > > Well, if it were mine, I would likely consider that, but this bike and
    > > the lady who owns it have a lot of history together, and she likes it
    > > the way it is.
    > > Dan

    >
    > I beleive if you look carefully enough @ BikeToolsETC. You will find
    > what you need. Rhe organization of their sight sucks. They couild use
    > Sheldon to build their site, But if U look hard enough or phone them, I
    > think youw will find what you need. Sheldon may have them also.
    >
    > Good Luck, They are out there, John


    Dear John,

    The BikeToolsEtc site is fairly easy to navigate:

    www.biketoolsetc.com

    Click on the tools tab on the top right.

    Click on crank in the alphabetical list that appears on the left.

    Click on extractor-Stronglight or extractor-TA in the sub-tree that
    pops up.

    http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=30288211153&c=Tools&sc=Crank&tc=Extractors-Stronglight

    http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=30288211153&c=Tools&sc=Crank&tc=Extractors-TA

    Or go to Sheldon:

    www.harriscyclery.com

    Click on tools, then click on crank/chainwheels, which actually takes
    you to the bottom bracket section:

    http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/bottombracket.html

    Page down a while.

    Regrettably, both BikeToolsEtc and Sheldon are out of stock on both
    tools.

    To be fair, BikeToolsEtc says so up front. On Sheldon's site, you have
    to add the item to your basket to find out that it ain't there.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel
     
  6. john

    john Guest

    [email protected] wrote:

    -snip- -huge snip-

    > john wrote:
    >
    > Dear John,
    >
    > The BikeToolsEtc site is fairly easy to navigate:
    >
    > www.biketoolsetc.com
    >
    > Click on the tools tab on the top right.
    >
    > Click on crank in the alphabetical list that appears on the left.
    >
    > Click on extractor-Stronglight or extractor-TA in the sub-tree that
    > pops up.
    >
    > http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=30288211153&c=Tools&sc=Crank&tc=Extractors-Stronglight
    >
    > http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=30288211153&c=Tools&sc=Crank&tc=Extractors-TA
    >
    > Or go to Sheldon:
    >
    > www.harriscyclery.com
    >
    > Click on tools, then click on crank/chainwheels, which actually takes
    > you to the bottom bracket section:
    >
    > http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/bottombracket.html
    >
    > Page down a while.
    >
    > Regrettably, both BikeToolsEtc and Sheldon are out of stock on both
    > tools.
    >
    > To be fair, BikeToolsEtc says so up front. On Sheldon's site, you have
    > to add the item to your basket to find out that it ain't there.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Carl Fogel


    Hi Carl

    I can't agree. Here's an example:

    Find: 2.0/1.5 x 261mm spokes; on both sites.

    I could inundate you w/ other examples, but I'll spare us both.

    Don't get me wrong, I like BTE very much & order from them regularly.
    But thank god I have their catalog & I order by phone.

    The other thing is that UPS ground usually takes 1 day from BTE & a
    week & a day from Sheldon. Of course Boston to Santa Rosa, Ca is
    probably in the 90th percentile of distances that can be traveled over
    the contiguous United States.

    See whaddt I mean ...man?
     
  7. On 17 Aug 2006 06:45:29 -0700, "john" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >[email protected] wrote:
    >
    >-snip- -huge snip-
    >
    >> john wrote:
    >>
    >> Dear John,
    >>
    >> The BikeToolsEtc site is fairly easy to navigate:
    >>
    >> www.biketoolsetc.com
    >>
    >> Click on the tools tab on the top right.
    >>
    >> Click on crank in the alphabetical list that appears on the left.
    >>
    >> Click on extractor-Stronglight or extractor-TA in the sub-tree that
    >> pops up.
    >>
    >> http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=30288211153&c=Tools&sc=Crank&tc=Extractors-Stronglight
    >>
    >> http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=30288211153&c=Tools&sc=Crank&tc=Extractors-TA
    >>
    >> Or go to Sheldon:
    >>
    >> www.harriscyclery.com
    >>
    >> Click on tools, then click on crank/chainwheels, which actually takes
    >> you to the bottom bracket section:
    >>
    >> http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/bottombracket.html
    >>
    >> Page down a while.
    >>
    >> Regrettably, both BikeToolsEtc and Sheldon are out of stock on both
    >> tools.
    >>
    >> To be fair, BikeToolsEtc says so up front. On Sheldon's site, you have
    >> to add the item to your basket to find out that it ain't there.
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >>
    >> Carl Fogel

    >
    >Hi Carl
    >
    >I can't agree. Here's an example:
    >
    >Find: 2.0/1.5 x 261mm spokes; on both sites.
    >
    >I could inundate you w/ other examples, but I'll spare us both.
    >
    >Don't get me wrong, I like BTE very much & order from them regularly.
    >But thank god I have their catalog & I order by phone.
    >
    >The other thing is that UPS ground usually takes 1 day from BTE & a
    >week & a day from Sheldon. Of course Boston to Santa Rosa, Ca is
    >probably in the 90th percentile of distances that can be traveled over
    >the contiguous United States.
    >
    >See whaddt I mean ...man?


    Dear John

    Again, that's rather easy to do with BikeToolsEtc.

    www.biketoolsetc.com

    Click on power search near the top, since you want a specific spoke
    length and diameter.

    Enter "spoke" and "261mm" and select "match all words" and there you
    are, Sapim Laser 14/17g 261mm bag of 20 for $12.95, no nipples:

    http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.c...pokes/14/17/Double-Butted&item_id=SA-LDB14261
    or http://tinyurl.com/q6vco

    As for Sheldon . . .

    www.harriscyclery.com

    Search for spokes (on the site, which is the default).

    Click on the first google-within-site hit, which takes you to wheels
    and wheel parts . . .

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/wheels.html

    Click on "spokes" in the alphabetized index . . .

    And Harris doesn't sell 2.0 x 1.5 spokes, so try the QBP catalogue
    link below the spokes, which takes you to a nice selector:

    http://harriscyclery.net/page.cfm?action=attributesearch&PageID=49&Category=470&Search=yes&type=T

    Put in the 261mm length (twice, to limit the search) and the 2.0 x 1.5
    butting and . . .

    http://harriscyclery.net/page.cfm?P...Down149=&searchDropDown8=&gobutnsearch=Search
    or http://tinyurl.com/ghjc3

    DT Swiss, bag of 72, with nipples, $76--ouch!

    Please learn to use both sites better before inundating us with more
    examples that only show that BikeToolsEtc works quite nicely.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel
     
  8. john

    john Guest

    [email protected] wrote:

    -snip-

    > Please learn to use both sites better before inundating us with more
    > examples that only show that BikeToolsEtc works quite nicely.


    When I read the above comment, I'm confused if you realize that I'm
    not criticizing Sheldon's site. I find it to be very intuitive 7 easy
    to navigate. My problems come w/ BTE. Which I use a lot. In an ideal
    world (at least my ideal world) I wish it were easier to find stuff @
    BTE. However, having said that, I realize that my on line searching
    ability leaves a lot to be desired. I often search & search for
    something for way too long before finally finding it, or just giving
    up, only to find it at a later date by random good luck. Often I end up
    pounding my fists & stomping my feet & screaming in total frustration,
    knowing it's out there somewhere, but I can't find it. I've
    understood cows & quadrupeds reasonably well since the 7th grade or
    whenever I studied logic. But that doesn't really seem to relate to
    most on line searches that I do.

    I know that you are a master at on line searches. I absolutely can not
    believe how fast you find stuff on line, judging by the time between
    posts. I'm certainly not asking you to explain how you do it, but
    could you direct me toward some good sources to study? I mean for
    example; @ BTE, how did you know to choose the words "spoke" and
    "261mm" and select "match all words" in the advanced area? A short time
    ago when I actually did this search, I ended up scrolling through
    almost 10 pages w/ 10 (I think) listings of Sapim spokes per page,
    before finding what I was looking for. In desperation, I started
    skipping pages hoping to hit the correct type spoke & then narrow it
    down to the length.

    Any books or on line references would be greatly appreciated.

    >
    > DT Swiss, bag of 72, with nipples, $76--ouch!
    >

    $76 Yeah ouch! & I prefer Sapim. Also I like to buy spokes w/o nipples,
    so that if I want different nipples that 'stock' I don't have to
    pay twice.

    Thanks, John
     
  9. On 18 Aug 2006 06:53:17 -0700, "john" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >[email protected] wrote:
    >
    >-snip-
    >
    >> Please learn to use both sites better before inundating us with more
    >> examples that only show that BikeToolsEtc works quite nicely.

    >
    >When I read the above comment, I'm confused if you realize that I'm
    >not criticizing Sheldon's site. I find it to be very intuitive 7 easy
    >to navigate. My problems come w/ BTE. Which I use a lot. In an ideal
    >world (at least my ideal world) I wish it were easier to find stuff @
    >BTE. However, having said that, I realize that my on line searching
    >ability leaves a lot to be desired. I often search & search for
    >something for way too long before finally finding it, or just giving
    >up, only to find it at a later date by random good luck. Often I end up
    >pounding my fists & stomping my feet & screaming in total frustration,
    >knowing it's out there somewhere, but I can't find it. I've
    >understood cows & quadrupeds reasonably well since the 7th grade or
    >whenever I studied logic. But that doesn't really seem to relate to
    >most on line searches that I do.
    >
    >I know that you are a master at on line searches. I absolutely can not
    >believe how fast you find stuff on line, judging by the time between
    >posts. I'm certainly not asking you to explain how you do it, but
    >could you direct me toward some good sources to study? I mean for
    >example; @ BTE, how did you know to choose the words "spoke" and
    >"261mm" and select "match all words" in the advanced area? A short time
    >ago when I actually did this search, I ended up scrolling through
    >almost 10 pages w/ 10 (I think) listings of Sapim spokes per page,
    >before finding what I was looking for. In desperation, I started
    >skipping pages hoping to hit the correct type spoke & then narrow it
    >down to the length.
    >
    >Any books or on line references would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    >>
    >> DT Swiss, bag of 72, with nipples, $76--ouch!
    >>

    >$76 Yeah ouch! & I prefer Sapim. Also I like to buy spokes w/o nipples,
    >so that if I want different nipples that 'stock' I don't have to
    >pay twice.
    >
    >Thanks, John


    Dear John,

    Searching is mostly experience, patience, and trying different
    filters.

    I searched for spoke and 261mm at BikeToolsEtc because I saw no
    obvious spoke section and that's what you were looking for.

    If that hadn't worked, I'd have tried spokes and 261, and so forth.

    As for sources to study, I'd google for "how to search":

    http://www.google.com/search?as_q="...as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images
    or http://tinyurl.com/epsb5

    For experience, develop bizarre interests and waste vast amounts of
    time.

    As an exercise, what's the Ryom number for the most recently
    recognized work by Vivaldi? And what does the RV in RV 542 stand for?

    And where can I get RV165, 355, 365, and 385 on a single CD by
    Guidantus? Posters whimpering that they can't get oddball crank
    extractors don't know what suffering means.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel
     
  10. In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] wrote:

    > On 18 Aug 2006 06:53:17 -0700, "john" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >


    [...]

    > >I know that you are a master at on line searches. I absolutely can not
    > >believe how fast you find stuff on line, judging by the time between
    > >posts. I'm certainly not asking you to explain how you do it, but
    > >could you direct me toward some good sources to study? I mean for
    > >example; @ BTE, how did you know to choose the words "spoke" and
    > >"261mm" and select "match all words" in the advanced area? A short time
    > >ago when I actually did this search, I ended up scrolling through
    > >almost 10 pages w/ 10 (I think) listings of Sapim spokes per page,
    > >before finding what I was looking for. In desperation, I started
    > >skipping pages hoping to hit the correct type spoke & then narrow it
    > >down to the length.
    > >
    > >Any books or on line references would be greatly appreciated.

    >
    > Dear John,
    >
    > Searching is mostly experience, patience, and trying different
    > filters.
    >
    > I searched for spoke and 261mm at BikeToolsEtc because I saw no
    > obvious spoke section and that's what you were looking for.
    >
    > If that hadn't worked, I'd have tried spokes and 261, and so forth.
    >
    > As for sources to study, I'd google for "how to search":
    >
    > http://www.google.com/search?as_q="...as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images
    > or http://tinyurl.com/epsb5
    >
    > For experience, develop bizarre interests and waste vast amounts of
    > time.
    >
    > As an exercise, what's the Ryom number for the most recently
    > recognized work by Vivaldi? And what does the RV in RV 542 stand for?


    Answer further on.

    One of my toughest search jobs was looking for a good
    article on normal kidney function. Success came when I
    found ADH (anti diuretic hormone) in one of the search
    results; so I added ADH to the search and excluded
    `dialysis', as the latter cluttered up my search results.

    <http://academic.sun.ac.za/med_physbio/med_physiology/dept/
    kidney.htm>

    To "john":
    Notice that I did not search on phrases, did not exclude
    words, did not search on disjunction (at least one of the
    words); three very useful tools. I used simple words. The
    way to learn to search is to persevere. When you get a
    bunch of search results that do not meet your needs refine
    the search using phrases; excluding certain words or
    phrases; and disjunction.

    Search on:
    RV 541

    find
    <http://www.idrs.org/www.idrs/publications2/journal2/jnl11/
    recob.html>
    `Ryom Catalog. The most recent contribution to the
    literature has been provided by Peter Ryom. He has
    inventoried and organized the total known output of
    Vivaldi ( Verzeichnis der Werke Antonio Vivaldi. Leipzig:
    VEB Deutscher Verlag fur Musik, 1974.). It is this system
    which he used in preparing his worklist of the
    compositions of Vivaldi for the New Grove and is the core
    of the present study.'

    Search on:
    peter ryom vivaldi

    find
    <http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Ryom+Verzeichnis+(Wo
    rks+of+Vivaldi+list+by+Peter+Ryom)>
    RV Ryom Verzeichnis (Works of Vivaldi list by Peter Ryom)

    Search on:
    german english dictionary
    find
    <http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/>
    Verzeichnis means directory.

    Answer Ryom Verzeichnis.

    Notice that the word Verzeichnis appears in the first
    search, but I chose not to track down the `V' words.

    Add <http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com> to my
    bookmarks.

    --
    Michael Press
     
  11. On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:34:33 GMT, Michael Press <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] wrote:
    >
    >> On 18 Aug 2006 06:53:17 -0700, "john" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>

    >
    >[...]
    >
    >> >I know that you are a master at on line searches. I absolutely can not
    >> >believe how fast you find stuff on line, judging by the time between
    >> >posts. I'm certainly not asking you to explain how you do it, but
    >> >could you direct me toward some good sources to study? I mean for
    >> >example; @ BTE, how did you know to choose the words "spoke" and
    >> >"261mm" and select "match all words" in the advanced area? A short time
    >> >ago when I actually did this search, I ended up scrolling through
    >> >almost 10 pages w/ 10 (I think) listings of Sapim spokes per page,
    >> >before finding what I was looking for. In desperation, I started
    >> >skipping pages hoping to hit the correct type spoke & then narrow it
    >> >down to the length.
    >> >
    >> >Any books or on line references would be greatly appreciated.

    >>
    >> Dear John,
    >>
    >> Searching is mostly experience, patience, and trying different
    >> filters.
    >>
    >> I searched for spoke and 261mm at BikeToolsEtc because I saw no
    >> obvious spoke section and that's what you were looking for.
    >>
    >> If that hadn't worked, I'd have tried spokes and 261, and so forth.
    >>
    >> As for sources to study, I'd google for "how to search":
    >>
    >> http://www.google.com/search?as_q="...as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images
    >> or http://tinyurl.com/epsb5
    >>
    >> For experience, develop bizarre interests and waste vast amounts of
    >> time.
    >>
    >> As an exercise, what's the Ryom number for the most recently
    >> recognized work by Vivaldi? And what does the RV in RV 542 stand for?

    >
    >Answer further on.
    >
    >One of my toughest search jobs was looking for a good
    >article on normal kidney function. Success came when I
    >found ADH (anti diuretic hormone) in one of the search
    >results; so I added ADH to the search and excluded
    >`dialysis', as the latter cluttered up my search results.
    >
    ><http://academic.sun.ac.za/med_physbio/med_physiology/dept/
    >kidney.htm>
    >
    >To "john":
    >Notice that I did not search on phrases, did not exclude
    >words, did not search on disjunction (at least one of the
    >words); three very useful tools. I used simple words. The
    >way to learn to search is to persevere. When you get a
    >bunch of search results that do not meet your needs refine
    >the search using phrases; excluding certain words or
    >phrases; and disjunction.
    >
    >Search on:
    >RV 541
    >
    >find
    ><http://www.idrs.org/www.idrs/publications2/journal2/jnl11/
    >recob.html>
    >`Ryom Catalog. The most recent contribution to the
    >literature has been provided by Peter Ryom. He has
    >inventoried and organized the total known output of
    >Vivaldi ( Verzeichnis der Werke Antonio Vivaldi. Leipzig:
    >VEB Deutscher Verlag fur Musik, 1974.). It is this system
    >which he used in preparing his worklist of the
    >compositions of Vivaldi for the New Grove and is the core
    >of the present study.'
    >
    >Search on:
    >peter ryom vivaldi
    >
    >find
    ><http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Ryom+Verzeichnis+(Wo
    >rks+of+Vivaldi+list+by+Peter+Ryom)>
    >RV Ryom Verzeichnis (Works of Vivaldi list by Peter Ryom)
    >
    >Search on:
    >german english dictionary
    >find
    ><http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/>
    >Verzeichnis means directory.
    >
    >Answer Ryom Verzeichnis.
    >
    >Notice that the word Verzeichnis appears in the first
    >search, but I chose not to track down the `V' words.
    >
    >Add <http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com> to my
    >bookmarks.


    Dear Michael,

    Nicely done.

    In the baroque world, the urge to throttle those who insist that "RV"
    means "Ryom-Vivaldi" is comparable to the feelings that some RBT
    posters cherish for those who enjoy using "chain stretch."

    Similarly, the "F" in the "F 1/237" and "F. XI, no. 7" style of
    cataloguing Vivaldi stands for Fanna, not Folio.

    To find the most recent additions to the canon, it helps to know that
    the list stands at just over 800. We're up to RV 805 now:

    http://www.huisvolmuziek.nl/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=109992

    It's just a stinking aria.

    But better news may be in the offing . . .

    http://www.playbillarts.com/news/article/4901.html

    Unfortunately, aficionados are bitterly aware that Fritz Kreisler
    cheerfully passed his own compositions off as being discoveries of
    unknown concertos by composers like Vivaldi, before confessing later
    in life that he "discovered" them at the end of his pen:

    http://www.uquebec.ca/musique/catal/vivaldi/vivacat7.html

    Fritz's forgery is down as Anh. 62. The listings look so much more
    polite in French, and they tactfully obscure things even further with
    the German Anh. for anhang, meaning that the composition has been
    relegated to the appendix, not denounced as fraud or error.

    To drag things back to bicycles, the same human love of
    overcomplication in catalogues can be seen in the familiar pleas on
    RBT about serial numbers, gruppos, and what the devil they mean.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel
     
  12. - Bob -

    - Bob - Guest

    On 16 Aug 2006 14:46:25 -0700, "Jay Beattie"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >P.S. -- Too bad I sold my official TA remover to Retro Bob. I still
    >have the Stronglight remover, although the crank is long since broken.
    >-- Jay Beattie.


    .... and I am still holding onto it and _not_ letting it go!

    Stronglight pullers do come up on Ebay every once in a while, TA
    rarely.

    I'd go the careful gear puller method and then you or the owner keep
    an eye on Ebay.

    FYI - you can find a matching crankarm for whatever side you need to
    keep easier and cheaper than the puller... especially if you elect to
    keep the Stronglight.
     
  13. Dan Burkhart

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    OK, so just in case anyone is interested,here's the answer from the source. I contacted J.A. Stein by e-mail, and he responded within 1/2 hour. He assures me the extractor system will indeed work with both TA and Stronglight. He also makes a 24 x 1.5mm puller to work with it, or you can use the supplied self extractor caps.
    Dan
     
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