WNM Joyce



I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I don't like
doing so amid heavy traffic and nutsy drivers. Our locale
does have sidewalks, but even crossing the streets you take
your life into your own hands. It never ceases to amaze me
just how unconscious and incondsiderate drivers are around
here. My house sits in a very quiet neighborhood, and is
relatively traffic free - other than those goofballs that
have to drive through in a hurry to avoid traffic lights.
The problem begins if I travel 1/2 a block to the west, 2
blocks to the east, or 3 blocks to the north ... all major
runways - two of which are considered state highways. I just
need to remember to cross at the stoplight, which is out of
my way if heading to the store. It at least gives me a
fighting chance.

Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm but not bitter
cold either. This afternoon and evening had some serious
gusts blowing through - had my downdraft flap on the stove
rattling wildly. That is really a hoot and took me quite
some time to figure out what exactly I was hearing. When I
am upstairs, I know what it
is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles through the oven.
But when in the basement ... it sounds exactly like
someone is knocking ferociously on the door (the
exterior flap is only a few feet north and at ceiling
level of the wall the treadmill is on. A few weeks ago I
kept running up and down stairs, thinking someone was
playing games with me. I was rather slow in solving the
mystery. <G>

Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl was asking me
this morning for excercise advice? LOL! Who woulda ever
thought! She has bought herself an eliptical machine,
finally got it up and running last week and wanted some
advise on how long she should be using it and how often. She
is being incredibly hard on herself because she is only
going 20 minutes on alternating days. I told her she really
needed to remember that she is also dealing with 2 small
children and their schedules, just gave birth 2 months ago
(and is already back to her pre-pregnancy weight), and
starting an exercise routine for the first time in many
years. Start slow, work up - my advise in a nutshell. We're
currently trying to figure out how to tunnel under the
street and connect the two basements ... could have one heck
of a gym set up. <G>

Joyce

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle is a pretty
>good walking town if you like HILLS!
>
>Temps today set a new record altho being in the mountains I
>don't know what they reached. But it was mind-blowingly
>perfect UP there.
>
>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I figure out how
>(G)
>
>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at hovering,
>>aren't I? <G>
>>
>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't it? Wonder
>>why I didn't think of it before. <G> Really, I usually
>>don't as the traffic is very heavy in this area
>>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy drivers.
>> But I knew I could use the back entrance and only have
>> to cross on street to get to the park, then it was quiet
>> and peaceful. Hub and I will usually walk this route
>> when we go to the bread outlet store - but having to
>> cross the major roads does not enthuse me.
>>
>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ... was 45F when
>>I was out this morning. But it felt like a heat wave
>>compared to those 30's. I think they are talking similar
>>temps all week long, but I also believe they have no rain
>>in the forecast. THAT's nice for a change.
>>
>>Joyce
>>
>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even if it was an
>>>upward hover somewhere along the line (G)
>>>
>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing, truly
>>>amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too. 60F+ and today
>>>and closer to 70F tomorrow (when I hope to ski or, at
>>>least, hike)
>>>
>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance for me ...
>>>>down, down, down all week long ... up today for weigh
>>>>in. Isn't that the way life always goes? <G> No biggie,
>>>>todays weight still showed me a 1.3 loss from last week
>>>>and really did not surprise me at all as I had a very
>>>>salty meal last nite which had me drinking mega
>>>>quantities ... and not running to the potty. <G> I'll
>>>>enjoy knowing that during the week I DID see lower
>>>>numbers and will not allow myself to get worked up over
>>>>this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite nicely I feel. So the
>>>>official Friday numbers are .......................
>>>>
>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total loss to
>>>>date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>
>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me ... which
>>>>for most probably isn't a big deal, but it made me feel
>>>>good. Last night hub noticed I had driven a huge screw
>>>>into the rear tire of one of our vehicles, of course the
>>>>one that sonny boy needs to borrow to head up to the old
>>>>college campus and retrieve the last of his possessions.
>>>>He made an appointment at the local repair place to have
>>>>it fixed today, called and told me that SIL was not
>>>>working ... call and have him pick me up. Wellllll, I
>>>>drove the car in, set everything up and thought,
>>>>geeeeeesh, I'm only a few blocks from home, can walk
>>>>straight through the park, dodging the geese ... and it
>>>>IS somewhat of a nice day out ... why call? I'll
>>>>probably make it home faster if I walk. So picked my
>>>>little legs up and off I went. I have no idea how fast I
>>>>walked, hard to judge without that lcd monitor in front
>>>>of me <G>, but I was home in less than 7 minutes. And I
>>>>felt terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>
>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight:
>>>>130.7 total loss: 98.1 Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
*Grin* Good luck with the road work ;-)

Julie

"Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I don't like
> doing so amid
heavy
> traffic and nutsy drivers. Our locale does have sidewalks,
> but even
crossing the
> streets you take your life into your own hands. It never
> ceases to amaze
me just
> how unconscious and incondsiderate drivers are around
> here. My house sits
in a
> very quiet neighborhood, and is relatively traffic free -
> other than those goofballs that have to drive through in a
> hurry to avoid traffic lights.
The
> problem begins if I travel 1/2 a block to the west, 2
> blocks to the east,
or 3
> blocks to the north ... all major runways - two of which
> are considered
state
> highways. I just need to remember to cross at the
> stoplight, which is out
of my
> way if heading to the store. It at least gives me a
> fighting chance.
>
> Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm but not
> bitter cold either.
This
> afternoon and evening had some serious gusts blowing
> through - had my
downdraft
> flap on the stove rattling wildly. That is really a hoot
> and took me
quite some
> time to figure out what exactly I was hearing. When I am
> upstairs, I know
what it
> is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles through the
> oven. But when in
the
> basement ... it sounds exactly like someone is knocking
> ferociously on the
door
> (the exterior flap is only a few feet north and at ceiling
> level of the
wall the
> treadmill is on. A few weeks ago I kept running up and
> down stairs,
thinking
> someone was playing games with me. I was rather slow in
> solving the
mystery. <G>
>
> Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl was asking
> me this morning
for
> excercise advice? LOL! Who woulda ever thought! She has
> bought herself
an
> eliptical machine, finally got it up and running last week
> and wanted some
advise
> on how long she should be using it and how often. She is
> being incredibly
hard on
> herself because she is only going 20 minutes on
> alternating days. I told
her she
> really needed to remember that she is also dealing with 2
> small children
and their
> schedules, just gave birth 2 months ago (and is already
> back to her
pre-pregnancy
> weight), and starting an exercise routine for the first
> time in many
years. Start
> slow, work up - my advise in a nutshell. We're currently
> trying to figure
out how
> to tunnel under the street and connect the two basements
> ... could have
one heck
> of a gym set up. <G>
>
> Joyce
>
> On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
> <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle is a
> >pretty good walking town if you like HILLS!
> >
> >Temps today set a new record altho being in the mountains
> >I don't know what they reached. But it was mind-blowingly
> >perfect UP there.
> >
> >I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I figure out
> >how (G)
> >
> >On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at hovering, aren't
> >>I? <G>
> >>
> >>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't it?
> >>Wonder why I didn't
think of
> >>it before. <G> Really, I usually don't as the traffic is
> >>very heavy in
this area
> >>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy drivers.
> >> But I knew I
could use
> >>the back entrance and only have to cross on street to
> >>get to the park,
then it was
> >>quiet and peaceful. Hub and I will usually walk this
> >>route when we go
to the
> >>bread outlet store - but having to cross the major roads
> >>does not
enthuse me.
> >>
> >>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ... was 45F
> >>when I was out this
morning.
> >>But it felt like a heat wave compared to those 30's. I
> >>think they are
talking
> >>similar temps all week long, but I also believe they
> >>have no rain in the
forecast.
> >>THAT's nice for a change.
> >>
> >>Joyce
> >>
> >>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
> >><[email protected]>
wrote:
> >>
> >>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even if it was
> >>>an upward hover somewhere along the line (G)
> >>>
> >>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing, truly
> >>>amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too. 60F+ and today
> >>>and closer to 70F tomorrow (when I hope to ski or, at
> >>>least, hike)
> >>>
> >>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
> >>><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance for me ...
> >>>>down, down,
down all week
> >>>>long ... up today for weigh in. Isn't that the way
> >>>>life always goes?
<G> No
> >>>>biggie, todays weight still showed me a 1.3 loss from
> >>>>last week and
really did not
> >>>>surprise me at all as I had a very salty meal last
> >>>>nite which had me
drinking mega
> >>>>quantities ... and not running to the potty. <G> I'll
> >>>>enjoy knowing
that during
> >>>>the week I DID see lower numbers and will not allow
> >>>>myself to get
worked up over
> >>>>this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite nicely I feel. So
> >>>>the official
Friday numbers
> >>>>are .......................
> >>>>
> >>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total loss to
> >>>>date: 98.1 pounds
> >>>>
> >>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me ... which
> >>>>for most
probably isn't a
> >>>>big deal, but it made me feel good. Last night hub
> >>>>noticed I had
driven a huge
> >>>>screw into the rear tire of one of our vehicles, of
> >>>>course the one
that sonny boy
> >>>>needs to borrow to head up to the old college campus
> >>>>and retrieve the
last of his
> >>>>possessions. He made an appointment at the local
> >>>>repair place to have
it fixed
> >>>>today, called and told me that SIL was not working ...
> >>>>call and have
him pick me
> >>>>up. Wellllll, I drove the car in, set everything up
> >>>>and thought,
geeeeeesh, I'm
> >>>>only a few blocks from home, can walk straight through
> >>>>the park,
dodging the geese
> >>>>... and it IS somewhat of a nice day out ... why call?
> >>>>I'll probably
make it home
> >>>>faster if I walk. So picked my little legs up and off
> >>>>I went. I have
no idea how
> >>>>fast I walked, hard to judge without that lcd monitor
> >>>>in front of me
<H>, but I
> >>>>was home in less than 7 minutes. And I felt terrific.
> >>>>WooHoo!
> >>>>
> >>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current
> >>>>weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1 Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking to the U-
district (Univ of Washingon is about a mile east) requires
crossing I-5 which is an assault on the senses as well as
walking along busy streets. And crossing north-south is
restricted to keep the east-west flow of cars unimpeded. But
a 3-4 mile loop around the lake is actually traffic light
free and pretty low-key except at rush hour.

So you are now the exercise guru - great roll. I'm trying to
decide about the elliptical trainer at work as opposed to
the treadmill. As I found a number of years ago with
PROGRAMMED exercise bikes, the resistance is not as natural
as real biking, even up steep hills. They seem to put more
pressure on the knee that I get in real life on some very
steep rides. Same seems to be true for the elliptical and my
knees do not like it. I think the treadmill may be more to
my liking, well, to my knees' liking.

Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F was a new
record high for the date. But CLOUDY right now.

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I don't like
>doing so amid heavy traffic and nutsy drivers. Our locale
>does have sidewalks, but even crossing the streets you take
>your life into your own hands. It never ceases to amaze me
>just how unconscious and incondsiderate drivers are around
>here. My house sits in a very quiet neighborhood, and is
>relatively traffic free - other than those goofballs that
>have to drive through in a hurry to avoid traffic lights.
>The problem begins if I travel 1/2 a block to the west, 2
>blocks to the east, or 3 blocks to the north ... all major
>runways - two of which are considered state highways. I
>just need to remember to cross at the stoplight, which is
>out of my way if heading to the store. It at least gives me
>a fighting chance.
>
>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm but not
>bitter cold either. This afternoon and evening had some
>serious gusts blowing through - had my downdraft flap on
>the stove rattling wildly. That is really a hoot and took
>me quite some time to figure out what exactly I was
>hearing. When I am upstairs, I know what it
>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles through the
> oven. But when in the basement ... it sounds exactly
> like someone is knocking ferociously on the door (the
> exterior flap is only a few feet north and at ceiling
> level of the wall the treadmill is on. A few weeks ago
> I kept running up and down stairs, thinking someone was
> playing games with me. I was rather slow in solving the
> mystery. <G>
>
>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl was asking me
>this morning for excercise advice? LOL! Who woulda ever
>thought! She has bought herself an eliptical machine,
>finally got it up and running last week and wanted some
>advise on how long she should be using it and how often.
>She is being incredibly hard on herself because she is only
>going 20 minutes on alternating days. I told her she really
>needed to remember that she is also dealing with 2 small
>children and their schedules, just gave birth 2 months ago
>(and is already back to her pre-pregnancy weight), and
>starting an exercise routine for the first time in many
>years. Start slow, work up - my advise in a nutshell. We're
>currently trying to figure out how to tunnel under the
>street and connect the two basements ... could have one
>heck of a gym set up. <G>
>
>Joyce
>
>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle is a pretty
>>good walking town if you like HILLS!
>>
>>Temps today set a new record altho being in the mountains
>>I don't know what they reached. But it was mind-blowingly
>>perfect UP there.
>>
>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I figure out how
>>(G)
>>
>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at hovering,
>>>aren't I? <G>
>>>
>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't it? Wonder
>>>why I didn't think of it before. <G> Really, I usually
>>>don't as the traffic is very heavy in this area
>>>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy drivers.
>>> But I knew I could use the back entrance and only have
>>> to cross on street to get to the park, then it was
>>> quiet and peaceful. Hub and I will usually walk this
>>> route when we go to the bread outlet store - but having
>>> to cross the major roads does not enthuse me.
>>>
>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ... was 45F when
>>>I was out this morning. But it felt like a heat wave
>>>compared to those 30's. I think they are talking similar
>>>temps all week long, but I also believe they have no rain
>>>in the forecast. THAT's nice for a change.
>>>
>>>Joyce
>>>
>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even if it was an
>>>>upward hover somewhere along the line (G)
>>>>
>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing, truly
>>>>amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too. 60F+ and today
>>>>and closer to 70F tomorrow (when I hope to ski or, at
>>>>least, hike)
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance for me ...
>>>>>down, down, down all week long ... up today for weigh
>>>>>in. Isn't that the way life always goes? <G> No biggie,
>>>>>todays weight still showed me a 1.3 loss from last week
>>>>>and really did not surprise me at all as I had a very
>>>>>salty meal last nite which had me drinking mega
>>>>>quantities ... and not running to the potty. <G> I'll
>>>>>enjoy knowing that during the week I DID see lower
>>>>>numbers and will not allow myself to get worked up over
>>>>>this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite nicely I feel. So the
>>>>>official Friday numbers are .......................
>>>>>
>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total loss to
>>>>>date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>
>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me ... which
>>>>>for most probably isn't a big deal, but it made me feel
>>>>>good. Last night hub noticed I had driven a huge screw
>>>>>into the rear tire of one of our vehicles, of course
>>>>>the one that sonny boy needs to borrow to head up to
>>>>>the old college campus and retrieve the last of his
>>>>>possessions. He made an appointment at the local repair
>>>>>place to have it fixed today, called and told me that
>>>>>SIL was not working ... call and have him pick me up.
>>>>>Wellllll, I drove the car in, set everything up and
>>>>>thought, geeeeeesh, I'm only a few blocks from home,
>>>>>can walk straight through the park, dodging the geese
>>>>>... and it IS somewhat of a nice day out ... why call?
>>>>>I'll probably make it home faster if I walk. So picked
>>>>>my little legs up and off I went. I have no idea how
>>>>>fast I walked, hard to judge without that lcd monitor
>>>>>in front of me <G>, but I was home in less than 7
>>>>>minutes. And I felt terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>>
>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current
>>>>>weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1 Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
"Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The scale has once again been doing a dance for me ...
> down, down, down
all week
> long ... up today for weigh in. Isn't that the way life
> always goes? <G>
No
> biggie, todays weight still showed me a 1.3 loss from last
> week and really
did not
> surprise me at all as I had a very salty meal last nite
> which had me
drinking mega
> quantities ... and not running to the potty. <G> I'll
> enjoy knowing that
during
> the week I DID see lower numbers and will not allow myself
> to get worked
up over
> this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite nicely I feel. So the
> official Friday
numbers
> are .......................
>
<snip>
>
> Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight:
> 130.7 total loss: 98.1 Lifetime: 4/4/03

I'm so glad to know I wasn't the only one this week. I got
so excited about breaking the 250 mark over the course of
this week, then for WI was devastated to learn that I was
still lingering above. I'll get 'em this week (I hope!)

Nice job on the walking. I was just thinking this morning
about starting to take the bus to work, which would include
about a mile walk all told. Jury's still out on that.
 
Welcome home? <grin> I will admit to having somewhat of a
paranoia about me though, as far as putting all this weight
back on. It is constantly in my mind, probably what keeps me
from groping aimlessly in the fridge and cupboards. I know I
should let go of it, but I'm also not sure I want to. At
least not totally or forever. Tonite I did let go, ate
waaaaaaay too much of my favorite pizza and even splurged on
soda which I haven't had any of for well over a month.
Sometimes I just have such a craving for things and I can't
get past them. Tonite was one of those times. So I give in
and move on. The moment has now passed ... I'll recover -
even if it is after Easter. <grin>

Joyce <paranoid again>

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 06:37:24 -0600, Prairie Roots
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm delighted to have found such a delightful group of
>kindred spirits. Home at last!
>
>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:20:49 -0600, Joyce
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>You are as paranoid as the rest of us. <G>
>
>Linda P
>232/153/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
 
Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried an eliptical
machine once, several years ago. I had problems with it,
again the knee thing - just wasn't for me, I knew it wasn't
something I could or would stick to for long. I don't mind
the exercycles, hubs new one seems rather nice but I
honestly haven't used it more than a very few short minutes.
The key to me for lowering the knee stress was to find the
correct spot for the seat ... which was not easy. Too far
away or too close, and the knees screamed at me. I think
that is why I probably don't get on it now, then hub would
have to constantly move that seat back and forth. They need
to incorporate a motorized seat control, like they do in
automobiles - would be so much easier when having multiple
users. The treadmill was the perfect answer ... for me. I
love walking, it's relatively pain free if I don't do stupid
stuff (like hitting the increase speed button instead of the
increase incline - THAT result was rather interesting this
morning ... as well as producing a bit of panic). It can be
rather boring though, so I have to find something to keep me
somewhat occupied while I'm on it.

Joyce

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking to the U-
>district (Univ of Washingon is about a mile east) requires
>crossing I-5 which is an assault on the senses as well as
>walking along busy streets. And crossing north-south is
>restricted to keep the east-west flow of cars unimpeded.
>But a 3-4 mile loop around the lake is actually traffic
>light free and pretty low-key except at rush hour.
>
>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll. I'm trying
>to decide about the elliptical trainer at work as opposed
>to the treadmill. As I found a number of years ago with
>PROGRAMMED exercise bikes, the resistance is not as natural
>as real biking, even up steep hills. They seem to put more
>pressure on the knee that I get in real life on some very
>steep rides. Same seems to be true for the elliptical and
>my knees do not like it. I think the treadmill may be more
>to my liking, well, to my knees' liking.
>
>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F was a new
>record high for the date. But CLOUDY right now.
>
>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I don't like
>>doing so amid heavy traffic and nutsy drivers. Our locale
>>does have sidewalks, but even crossing the streets you
>>take your life into your own hands. It never ceases to
>>amaze me just how unconscious and incondsiderate drivers
>>are around here. My house sits in a very quiet
>>neighborhood, and is relatively traffic free - other than
>>those goofballs that have to drive through in a hurry to
>>avoid traffic lights. The problem begins if I travel 1/2 a
>>block to the west, 2 blocks to the east, or 3 blocks to
>>the north ... all major runways - two of which are
>>considered state highways. I just need to remember to
>>cross at the stoplight, which is out of my way if heading
>>to the store. It at least gives me a fighting chance.
>>
>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm but not
>>bitter cold either. This afternoon and evening had some
>>serious gusts blowing through - had my downdraft flap on
>>the stove rattling wildly. That is really a hoot and took
>>me quite some time to figure out what exactly I was
>>hearing. When I am upstairs, I know what it
>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles through the
>> oven. But when in the basement ... it sounds exactly
>> like someone is knocking ferociously on the door (the
>> exterior flap is only a few feet north and at ceiling
>> level of the wall the treadmill is on. A few weeks ago
>> I kept running up and down stairs, thinking someone
>> was playing games with me. I was rather slow in
>> solving the mystery. <G>
>>
>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl was asking
>>me this morning for excercise advice? LOL! Who woulda ever
>>thought! She has bought herself an eliptical machine,
>>finally got it up and running last week and wanted some
>>advise on how long she should be using it and how often.
>>She is being incredibly hard on herself because she is
>>only going 20 minutes on alternating days. I told her she
>>really needed to remember that she is also dealing with 2
>>small children and their schedules, just gave birth 2
>>months ago (and is already back to her pre-pregnancy
>>weight), and starting an exercise routine for the first
>>time in many years. Start slow, work up - my advise in a
>>nutshell. We're currently trying to figure out how to
>>tunnel under the street and connect the two basements ...
>>could have one heck of a gym set up. <G>
>>
>>Joyce
>>
>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle is a
>>>pretty good walking town if you like HILLS!
>>>
>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in the mountains
>>>I don't know what they reached. But it was mind-blowingly
>>>perfect UP there.
>>>
>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I figure out
>>>how (G)
>>>
>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at hovering, aren't
>>>>I? <G>
>>>>
>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't it?
>>>>Wonder why I didn't think of it before. <G> Really, I
>>>>usually don't as the traffic is very heavy in this area
>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy drivers.
>>>> But I knew I could use the back entrance and only have
>>>> to cross on street to get to the park, then it was
>>>> quiet and peaceful. Hub and I will usually walk this
>>>> route when we go to the bread outlet store - but
>>>> having to cross the major roads does not enthuse me.
>>>>
>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ... was 45F
>>>>when I was out this morning. But it felt like a heat
>>>>wave compared to those 30's. I think they are talking
>>>>similar temps all week long, but I also believe they
>>>>have no rain in the forecast. THAT's nice for a change.
>>>>
>>>>Joyce
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even if it was
>>>>>an upward hover somewhere along the line (G)
>>>>>
>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing, truly
>>>>>amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too. 60F+ and today
>>>>>and closer to 70F tomorrow (when I hope to ski or, at
>>>>>least, hike)
>>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance for me ...
>>>>>>down, down, down all week long ... up today for weigh
>>>>>>in. Isn't that the way life always goes? <G> No
>>>>>>biggie, todays weight still showed me a 1.3 loss from
>>>>>>last week and really did not surprise me at all as I
>>>>>>had a very salty meal last nite which had me drinking
>>>>>>mega quantities ... and not running to the potty. <G>
>>>>>>I'll enjoy knowing that during the week I DID see
>>>>>>lower numbers and will not allow myself to get worked
>>>>>>up over this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite nicely I
>>>>>>feel. So the official Friday numbers are
>>>>>>.......................
>>>>>>
>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total loss to
>>>>>>date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me ... which
>>>>>>for most probably isn't a big deal, but it made me
>>>>>>feel good. Last night hub noticed I had driven a huge
>>>>>>screw into the rear tire of one of our vehicles, of
>>>>>>course the one that sonny boy needs to borrow to head
>>>>>>up to the old college campus and retrieve the last of
>>>>>>his possessions. He made an appointment at the local
>>>>>>repair place to have it fixed today, called and told
>>>>>>me that SIL was not working ... call and have him pick
>>>>>>me up. Wellllll, I drove the car in, set everything up
>>>>>>and thought, geeeeeesh, I'm only a few blocks from
>>>>>>home, can walk straight through the park, dodging the
>>>>>>geese ... and it IS somewhat of a nice day out ... why
>>>>>>call? I'll probably make it home faster if I walk. So
>>>>>>picked my little legs up and off I went. I have no
>>>>>>idea how fast I walked, hard to judge without that lcd
>>>>>>monitor in front of me <G>, but I was home in less
>>>>>>than 7 minutes. And I felt terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current
>>>>>>weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1 Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
Well, that's my main problem with most exercise equipment
- the boredom factor indoors. I've been trying to get to
the exercise equipemtn at work in the mid-morning but only
15 minutes.

I would like to have seen the speed button mistake (G) I did
that the other day on the elliptical - I ran it backwards
too suddenly and too much resistance. The elliptical with
mild resistance is not bad - same as treadmill, I guess. I
only have a nordic track here at home - a dust catcher

On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried an
>eliptical machine once, several years ago. I had problems
>with it, again the knee thing - just wasn't for me, I knew
>it wasn't something I could or would stick to for long. I
>don't mind the exercycles, hubs new one seems rather nice
>but I honestly haven't used it more than a very few short
>minutes. The key to me for lowering the knee stress was to
>find the correct spot for the seat ... which was not easy.
>Too far away or too close, and the knees screamed at me. I
>think that is why I probably don't get on it now, then hub
>would have to constantly move that seat back and forth.
>They need to incorporate a motorized seat control, like
>they do in automobiles - would be so much easier when
>having multiple users. The treadmill was the perfect
>answer ... for me. I love walking, it's relatively pain
>free if I don't do stupid stuff (like hitting the increase
>speed button instead of the increase incline - THAT result
>was rather interesting this morning ... as well as
>producing a bit of panic). It can be rather boring though,
>so I have to find something to keep me somewhat occupied
>while I'm on it.
>
>Joyce
>
>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking to the
>>U-district (Univ of Washingon is about a mile east)
>>requires crossing I-5 which is an assault on the senses as
>>well as walking along busy streets. And crossing north-
>>south is restricted to keep the east-west flow of cars
>>unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile loop around the lake is actually
>>traffic light free and pretty low-key except at rush hour.
>>
>>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll. I'm
>>trying to decide about the elliptical trainer at work
>>as opposed to the treadmill. As I found a number of
>>years ago with PROGRAMMED exercise bikes, the
>>resistance is not as natural as real biking, even up
>>steep hills. They seem to put more pressure on the knee
>>that I get in real life on some very steep rides. Same
>>seems to be true for the elliptical and my knees do not
>>like it. I think the treadmill may be more to my
>>liking, well, to my knees' liking.
>>
>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F was a new
>>record high for the date. But CLOUDY right now.
>>
>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I don't like
>>>doing so amid heavy traffic and nutsy drivers. Our locale
>>>does have sidewalks, but even crossing the streets you
>>>take your life into your own hands. It never ceases to
>>>amaze me just how unconscious and incondsiderate drivers
>>>are around here. My house sits in a very quiet
>>>neighborhood, and is relatively traffic free - other than
>>>those goofballs that have to drive through in a hurry to
>>>avoid traffic lights. The problem begins if I travel 1/2
>>>a block to the west, 2 blocks to the east, or 3 blocks to
>>>the north ... all major runways - two of which are
>>>considered state highways. I just need to remember to
>>>cross at the stoplight, which is out of my way if heading
>>>to the store. It at least gives me a fighting chance.
>>>
>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm but not
>>>bitter cold either. This afternoon and evening had some
>>>serious gusts blowing through - had my downdraft flap on
>>>the stove rattling wildly. That is really a hoot and took
>>>me quite some time to figure out what exactly I was
>>>hearing. When I am upstairs, I know what it
>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles through the
>>> oven. But when in the basement ... it sounds exactly
>>> like someone is knocking ferociously on the door (the
>>> exterior flap is only a few feet north and at ceiling
>>> level of the wall the treadmill is on. A few weeks
>>> ago I kept running up and down stairs, thinking
>>> someone was playing games with me. I was rather slow
>>> in solving the mystery. <G>
>>>
>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl was asking
>>>me this morning for excercise advice? LOL! Who woulda
>>>ever thought! She has bought herself an eliptical
>>>machine, finally got it up and running last week and
>>>wanted some advise on how long she should be using it and
>>>how often. She is being incredibly hard on herself
>>>because she is only going 20 minutes on alternating days.
>>>I told her she really needed to remember that she is also
>>>dealing with 2 small children and their schedules, just
>>>gave birth 2 months ago (and is already back to her pre-
>>>pregnancy weight), and starting an exercise routine for
>>>the first time in many years. Start slow, work up - my
>>>advise in a nutshell. We're currently trying to figure
>>>out how to tunnel under the street and connect the two
>>>basements ... could have one heck of a gym set up. <G>
>>>
>>>Joyce
>>>
>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle is a
>>>>pretty good walking town if you like HILLS!
>>>>
>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in the
>>>>mountains I don't know what they reached. But it was mind-
>>>>blowingly perfect UP there.
>>>>
>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I figure out
>>>>how (G)
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at hovering, aren't
>>>>>I? <G>
>>>>>
>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't it?
>>>>>Wonder why I didn't think of it before. <G> Really, I
>>>>>usually don't as the traffic is very heavy in this area
>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy drivers.
>>>>> But I knew I could use the back entrance and only
>>>>> have to cross on street to get to the park, then it
>>>>> was quiet and peaceful. Hub and I will usually walk
>>>>> this route when we go to the bread outlet store - but
>>>>> having to cross the major roads does not enthuse me.
>>>>>
>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ... was 45F
>>>>>when I was out this morning. But it felt like a heat
>>>>>wave compared to those 30's. I think they are talking
>>>>>similar temps all week long, but I also believe they
>>>>>have no rain in the forecast. THAT's nice for a change.
>>>>>
>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even if it was
>>>>>>an upward hover somewhere along the line (G)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing, truly
>>>>>>amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too. 60F+ and today
>>>>>>and closer to 70F tomorrow (when I hope to ski or, at
>>>>>>least, hike)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance for me
>>>>>>>... down, down, down all week long ... up today for
>>>>>>>weigh in. Isn't that the way life always goes? <G> No
>>>>>>>biggie, todays weight still showed me a 1.3 loss from
>>>>>>>last week and really did not surprise me at all as I
>>>>>>>had a very salty meal last nite which had me drinking
>>>>>>>mega quantities ... and not running to the potty. <G>
>>>>>>>I'll enjoy knowing that during the week I DID see
>>>>>>>lower numbers and will not allow myself to get worked
>>>>>>>up over this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite nicely I
>>>>>>>feel. So the official Friday numbers are
>>>>>>>.......................
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total loss to
>>>>>>>date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me ...
>>>>>>>which for most probably isn't a big deal, but it made
>>>>>>>me feel good. Last night hub noticed I had driven a
>>>>>>>huge screw into the rear tire of one of our vehicles,
>>>>>>>of course the one that sonny boy needs to borrow to
>>>>>>>head up to the old college campus and retrieve the
>>>>>>>last of his possessions. He made an appointment at
>>>>>>>the local repair place to have it fixed today, called
>>>>>>>and told me that SIL was not working ... call and
>>>>>>>have him pick me up. Wellllll, I drove the car in,
>>>>>>>set everything up and thought, geeeeeesh, I'm only a
>>>>>>>few blocks from home, can walk straight through the
>>>>>>>park, dodging the geese ... and it IS somewhat of a
>>>>>>>nice day out ... why call? I'll probably make it home
>>>>>>>faster if I walk. So picked my little legs up and off
>>>>>>>I went. I have no idea how fast I walked, hard to
>>>>>>>judge without that lcd monitor in front of me <G>,
>>>>>>>but I was home in less than 7 minutes. And I felt
>>>>>>>terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current
>>>>>>>weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1 Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a great start. I
seem to do fine those first 15 minutes or so, then I start
looking at the clock and time tends to drag. I convince
myself to just go one more *lap* (1/4 mile on the lcd) or a
few more minutes, then if I want to quit I can ... of
course, that leads to more deals with myself. Most of the
time I do make the 40-45 minutes, sometimes I do quit after
35 minutes. Afternoons I usually only make about 25
minutes, as I have to get back upstairs and get back to
dinner prep. Today I did something different and it did
seem to make the time go a bit faster. I have been reading
many different articles on interval training, I really have
no clue as to whether this is good or bad - but so far
everything I've read has been positive. The most recent
article I saw said something about how calories burned with
the same daily routine will eventually be less, as the body
becomes used to the routine - interval training will keep
the body working and burning. So ... I started with my
first 15 minutes at the higher speed, dropped and did 2
minutes at a lower speed ... 3 minutes at high speed again,
1 minute low, 3 min high, 1 min low, etc. Unbelievable how
quickly the time did go by - maybe because I was focusing
more on the shorter lengths of time?

Hitting that speed button was interesting, and a bit
frightening at the moment. You would think I would have
learned the lesson after the first time. Nope, not me - did
the exact same thing again today ... with the same results.
<sigh> I am getting rather good at being able to lift myself
quickly on the support bars (guess I have also become a tad
stronger - lol). While I can walk comfortably at an 8%
incline level - I can NOT walk at 8MPH!

Joyce

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Well, that's my main problem with most exercise equipment
>- the boredom factor indoors. I've been trying to get to
>the exercise equipemtn at work in the mid-morning but only
>15 minutes.
>
>I would like to have seen the speed button mistake (G) I
>did that the other day on the elliptical - I ran it
>backwards too suddenly and too much resistance. The
>elliptical with mild resistance is not bad - same as
>treadmill, I guess. I only have a nordic track here at home
>- a dust catcher
>
>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried an
>>eliptical machine once, several years ago. I had problems
>>with it, again the knee thing - just wasn't for me, I knew
>>it wasn't something I could or would stick to for long. I
>>don't mind the exercycles, hubs new one seems rather nice
>>but I honestly haven't used it more than a very few short
>>minutes. The key to me for lowering the knee stress was to
>>find the correct spot for the seat ... which was not easy.
>>Too far away or too close, and the knees screamed at me. I
>>think that is why I probably don't get on it now, then hub
>>would have to constantly move that seat back and forth.
>>They need to incorporate a motorized seat control, like
>>they do in automobiles - would be so much easier when
>>having multiple users. The treadmill was the perfect
>>answer ... for me. I love walking, it's relatively pain
>>free if I don't do stupid stuff (like hitting the increase
>>speed button instead of the increase incline - THAT result
>>was rather interesting this morning ... as well as
>>producing a bit of panic). It can be rather boring though,
>>so I have to find something to keep me somewhat occupied
>>while I'm on it.
>>
>>Joyce
>>
>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking to the
>>>U-district (Univ of Washingon is about a mile east)
>>>requires crossing I-5 which is an assault on the senses
>>>as well as walking along busy streets. And crossing north-
>>>south is restricted to keep the east-west flow of cars
>>>unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile loop around the lake is
>>>actually traffic light free and pretty low-key except at
>>>rush hour.
>>>
>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll. I'm trying
>>>to decide about the elliptical trainer at work as opposed
>>>to the treadmill. As I found a number of years ago with
>>>PROGRAMMED exercise bikes, the resistance is not as
>>>natural as real biking, even up steep hills. They seem to
>>>put more pressure on the knee that I get in real life on
>>>some very steep rides. Same seems to be true for the
>>>elliptical and my knees do not like it. I think the
>>>treadmill may be more to my liking, well, to my knees'
>>>liking.
>>>
>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F was a new
>>>record high for the date. But CLOUDY right now.
>>>
>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I don't like
>>>>doing so amid heavy traffic and nutsy drivers. Our
>>>>locale does have sidewalks, but even crossing the
>>>>streets you take your life into your own hands. It never
>>>>ceases to amaze me just how unconscious and
>>>>incondsiderate drivers are around here. My house sits in
>>>>a very quiet neighborhood, and is relatively traffic
>>>>free - other than those goofballs that have to drive
>>>>through in a hurry to avoid traffic lights. The problem
>>>>begins if I travel 1/2 a block to the west, 2 blocks to
>>>>the east, or 3 blocks to the north ... all major runways
>>>>- two of which are considered state highways. I just
>>>>need to remember to cross at the stoplight, which is out
>>>>of my way if heading to the store. It at least gives me
>>>>a fighting chance.
>>>>
>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm but not
>>>>bitter cold either. This afternoon and evening had some
>>>>serious gusts blowing through - had my downdraft flap on
>>>>the stove rattling wildly. That is really a hoot and
>>>>took me quite some time to figure out what exactly I was
>>>>hearing. When I am upstairs, I know what it
>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles through the
>>>> oven. But when in the basement ... it sounds exactly
>>>> like someone is knocking ferociously on the door
>>>> (the exterior flap is only a few feet north and at
>>>> ceiling level of the wall the treadmill is on. A few
>>>> weeks ago I kept running up and down stairs,
>>>> thinking someone was playing games with me. I was
>>>> rather slow in solving the mystery. <G>
>>>>
>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl was asking
>>>>me this morning for excercise advice? LOL! Who woulda
>>>>ever thought! She has bought herself an eliptical
>>>>machine, finally got it up and running last week and
>>>>wanted some advise on how long she should be using it
>>>>and how often. She is being incredibly hard on herself
>>>>because she is only going 20 minutes on alternating
>>>>days. I told her she really needed to remember that she
>>>>is also dealing with 2 small children and their
>>>>schedules, just gave birth 2 months ago (and is already
>>>>back to her pre-pregnancy weight), and starting an
>>>>exercise routine for the first time in many years. Start
>>>>slow, work up - my advise in a nutshell. We're currently
>>>>trying to figure out how to tunnel under the street and
>>>>connect the two basements ... could have one heck of a
>>>>gym set up. <G>
>>>>
>>>>Joyce
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle is a
>>>>>pretty good walking town if you like HILLS!
>>>>>
>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in the
>>>>>mountains I don't know what they reached. But it was
>>>>>mind-blowingly perfect UP there.
>>>>>
>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I figure out
>>>>>how (G)
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at hovering,
>>>>>>aren't I? <G>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't it?
>>>>>>Wonder why I didn't think of it before. <G> Really, I
>>>>>>usually don't as the traffic is very heavy in this
>>>>>>area
>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy
>>>>>> drivers. But I knew I could use the back entrance
>>>>>> and only have to cross on street to get to the park,
>>>>>> then it was quiet and peaceful. Hub and I will
>>>>>> usually walk this route when we go to the bread
>>>>>> outlet store - but having to cross the major roads
>>>>>> does not enthuse me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ... was 45F
>>>>>>when I was out this morning. But it felt like a heat
>>>>>>wave compared to those 30's. I think they are talking
>>>>>>similar temps all week long, but I also believe they
>>>>>>have no rain in the forecast. THAT's nice for a
>>>>>>change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even if it was
>>>>>>>an upward hover somewhere along the line (G)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing, truly
>>>>>>>amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too. 60F+ and
>>>>>>>today and closer to 70F tomorrow (when I hope to ski
>>>>>>>or, at least, hike)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance for me
>>>>>>>>... down, down, down all week long ... up today for
>>>>>>>>weigh in. Isn't that the way life always goes? <G>
>>>>>>>>No biggie, todays weight still showed me a 1.3 loss
>>>>>>>>from last week and really did not surprise me at all
>>>>>>>>as I had a very salty meal last nite which had me
>>>>>>>>drinking mega quantities ... and not running to the
>>>>>>>>potty. <G> I'll enjoy knowing that during the week I
>>>>>>>>DID see lower numbers and will not allow myself to
>>>>>>>>get worked up over this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite
>>>>>>>>nicely I feel. So the official Friday numbers are
>>>>>>>>.......................
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total loss to
>>>>>>>>date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me ...
>>>>>>>>which for most probably isn't a big deal, but it
>>>>>>>>made me feel good. Last night hub noticed I had
>>>>>>>>driven a huge screw into the rear tire of one of our
>>>>>>>>vehicles, of course the one that sonny boy needs to
>>>>>>>>borrow to head up to the old college campus and
>>>>>>>>retrieve the last of his possessions. He made an
>>>>>>>>appointment at the local repair place to have it
>>>>>>>>fixed today, called and told me that SIL was not
>>>>>>>>working ... call and have him pick me up. Wellllll,
>>>>>>>>I drove the car in, set everything up and thought,
>>>>>>>>geeeeeesh, I'm only a few blocks from home, can walk
>>>>>>>>straight through the park, dodging the geese ... and
>>>>>>>>it IS somewhat of a nice day out ... why call? I'll
>>>>>>>>probably make it home faster if I walk. So picked my
>>>>>>>>little legs up and off I went. I have no idea how
>>>>>>>>fast I walked, hard to judge without that lcd
>>>>>>>>monitor in front of me <G>, but I was home in less
>>>>>>>>than 7 minutes. And I felt terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current
>>>>>>>>weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1 Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
I've also read about interval training. I know folks swear
by it for bicycling, too. It does get the body in better
fashion to react to different things supposedly. So keep it
up - I guess it also made your session seem faster. Keep it
up. Soon you will be running outdoors, through that park you
mentioned (G)

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:26:55 -0500, Joyce
<[email protected]> wrote:

>15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a great start. I
>seem to do fine those first 15 minutes or so, then I start
>looking at the clock and time tends to drag. I convince
>myself to just go one more *lap* (1/4 mile on the lcd) or a
>few more minutes, then if I want to quit I can ... of
>course, that leads to more deals with myself. Most of the
>time I do make the 40-45 minutes, sometimes I do quit after
>35 minutes. Afternoons I usually only make about 25
>minutes, as I have to get back upstairs and get back to
>dinner prep. Today I did something different and it did
>seem to make the time go a bit faster. I have been reading
>many different articles on interval training, I really have
>no clue as to whether this is good or bad - but so far
>everything I've read has been positive. The most recent
>article I saw said something about how calories burned with
>the same daily routine will eventually be less, as the body
>becomes used to the routine - interval training will keep
>the body working and burning. So ... I started with my
>first 15 minutes at the higher speed, dropped and did 2
>minutes at a lower speed ... 3 minutes at high speed again,
>1 minute low, 3 min high, 1 min low, etc. Unbelievable how
>quickly the time did go by - maybe because I was focusing
>more on the shorter lengths of time?
>
>Hitting that speed button was interesting, and a bit
>frightening at the moment. You would think I would have
>learned the lesson after the first time. Nope, not me - did
>the exact same thing again today ... with the same results.
><sigh> I am getting rather good at being able to lift
>myself quickly on the support bars (guess I have also
>become a tad stronger - lol). While I can walk comfortably
>at an 8% incline level - I can NOT walk at 8MPH!
>
>Joyce
>
>On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Well, that's my main problem with most exercise equipment
>>- the boredom factor indoors. I've been trying to get to
>>the exercise equipemtn at work in the mid-morning but only
>>15 minutes.
>>
>>I would like to have seen the speed button mistake (G) I
>>did that the other day on the elliptical - I ran it
>>backwards too suddenly and too much resistance. The
>>elliptical with mild resistance is not bad - same as
>>treadmill, I guess. I only have a nordic track here at
>>home - a dust catcher
>>
>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried an
>>>eliptical machine once, several years ago. I had problems
>>>with it, again the knee thing - just wasn't for me, I
>>>knew it wasn't something I could or would stick to for
>>>long. I don't mind the exercycles, hubs new one seems
>>>rather nice but I honestly haven't used it more than a
>>>very few short minutes. The key to me for lowering the
>>>knee stress was to find the correct spot for the seat ...
>>>which was not easy. Too far away or too close, and the
>>>knees screamed at me. I think that is why I probably
>>>don't get on it now, then hub would have to constantly
>>>move that seat back and forth. They need to incorporate a
>>>motorized seat control, like they do in automobiles -
>>>would be so much easier when having multiple users. The
>>>treadmill was the perfect answer ... for me. I love
>>>walking, it's relatively pain free if I don't do stupid
>>>stuff (like hitting the increase speed button instead of
>>>the increase incline - THAT result was rather interesting
>>>this morning ... as well as producing a bit of panic). It
>>>can be rather boring though, so I have to find something
>>>to keep me somewhat occupied while I'm on it.
>>>
>>>Joyce
>>>
>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking to the
>>>>U-district (Univ of Washingon is about a mile east)
>>>>requires crossing I-5 which is an assault on the senses
>>>>as well as walking along busy streets. And crossing north-
>>>>south is restricted to keep the east-west flow of cars
>>>>unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile loop around the lake is
>>>>actually traffic light free and pretty low-key except at
>>>>rush hour.
>>>>
>>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll. I'm
>>>>trying to decide about the elliptical trainer at work as
>>>>opposed to the treadmill. As I found a number of years
>>>>ago with PROGRAMMED exercise bikes, the resistance is
>>>>not as natural as real biking, even up steep hills. They
>>>>seem to put more pressure on the knee that I get in real
>>>>life on some very steep rides. Same seems to be true for
>>>>the elliptical and my knees do not like it. I think the
>>>>treadmill may be more to my liking, well, to my knees'
>>>>liking.
>>>>
>>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F was a new
>>>>record high for the date. But CLOUDY right now.
>>>>
>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I don't like
>>>>>doing so amid heavy traffic and nutsy drivers. Our
>>>>>locale does have sidewalks, but even crossing the
>>>>>streets you take your life into your own hands. It
>>>>>never ceases to amaze me just how unconscious and
>>>>>incondsiderate drivers are around here. My house sits
>>>>>in a very quiet neighborhood, and is relatively traffic
>>>>>free - other than those goofballs that have to drive
>>>>>through in a hurry to avoid traffic lights. The problem
>>>>>begins if I travel 1/2 a block to the west, 2 blocks to
>>>>>the east, or 3 blocks to the north ... all major
>>>>>runways - two of which are considered state highways. I
>>>>>just need to remember to cross at the stoplight, which
>>>>>is out of my way if heading to the store. It at least
>>>>>gives me a fighting chance.
>>>>>
>>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm but not
>>>>>bitter cold either. This afternoon and evening had some
>>>>>serious gusts blowing through - had my downdraft flap
>>>>>on the stove rattling wildly. That is really a hoot and
>>>>>took me quite some time to figure out what exactly I
>>>>>was hearing. When I am upstairs, I know what it
>>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles through the
>>>>> oven. But when in the basement ... it sounds
>>>>> exactly like someone is knocking ferociously on the
>>>>> door (the exterior flap is only a few feet north
>>>>> and at ceiling level of the wall the treadmill is
>>>>> on. A few weeks ago I kept running up and down
>>>>> stairs, thinking someone was playing games with me.
>>>>> I was rather slow in solving the mystery. <G>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl was
>>>>>asking me this morning for excercise advice? LOL! Who
>>>>>woulda ever thought! She has bought herself an
>>>>>eliptical machine, finally got it up and running last
>>>>>week and wanted some advise on how long she should be
>>>>>using it and how often. She is being incredibly hard on
>>>>>herself because she is only going 20 minutes on
>>>>>alternating days. I told her she really needed to
>>>>>remember that she is also dealing with 2 small children
>>>>>and their schedules, just gave birth 2 months ago (and
>>>>>is already back to her pre-pregnancy weight), and
>>>>>starting an exercise routine for the first time in many
>>>>>years. Start slow, work up - my advise in a nutshell.
>>>>>We're currently trying to figure out how to tunnel
>>>>>under the street and connect the two basements ...
>>>>>could have one heck of a gym set up. <G>
>>>>>
>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle is a
>>>>>>pretty good walking town if you like HILLS!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in the
>>>>>>mountains I don't know what they reached. But it was
>>>>>>mind-blowingly perfect UP there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I figure out
>>>>>>how (G)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at hovering,
>>>>>>>aren't I? <G>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't it?
>>>>>>>Wonder why I didn't think of it before. <G> Really, I
>>>>>>>usually don't as the traffic is very heavy in this
>>>>>>>area
>>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy
>>>>>>> drivers. But I knew I could use the back entrance
>>>>>>> and only have to cross on street to get to the
>>>>>>> park, then it was quiet and peaceful. Hub and I
>>>>>>> will usually walk this route when we go to the
>>>>>>> bread outlet store - but having to cross the major
>>>>>>> roads does not enthuse me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ... was 45F
>>>>>>>when I was out this morning. But it felt like a heat
>>>>>>>wave compared to those 30's. I think they are talking
>>>>>>>similar temps all week long, but I also believe they
>>>>>>>have no rain in the forecast. THAT's nice for a
>>>>>>>change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even if it
>>>>>>>>was an upward hover somewhere along the line (G)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing, truly
>>>>>>>>amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too. 60F+ and
>>>>>>>>today and closer to 70F tomorrow (when I hope to ski
>>>>>>>>or, at least, hike)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance for me
>>>>>>>>>... down, down, down all week long ... up today for
>>>>>>>>>weigh in. Isn't that the way life always goes? <G>
>>>>>>>>>No biggie, todays weight still showed me a 1.3 loss
>>>>>>>>>from last week and really did not surprise me at
>>>>>>>>>all as I had a very salty meal last nite which had
>>>>>>>>>me drinking mega quantities ... and not running to
>>>>>>>>>the potty. <G> I'll enjoy knowing that during the
>>>>>>>>>week I DID see lower numbers and will not allow
>>>>>>>>>myself to get worked up over this. I AM
>>>>>>>>>MAINTAINING, and quite nicely I feel. So the
>>>>>>>>>official Friday numbers are .......................
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total loss
>>>>>>>>>to date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me ...
>>>>>>>>>which for most probably isn't a big deal, but it
>>>>>>>>>made me feel good. Last night hub noticed I had
>>>>>>>>>driven a huge screw into the rear tire of one of
>>>>>>>>>our vehicles, of course the one that sonny boy
>>>>>>>>>needs to borrow to head up to the old college
>>>>>>>>>campus and retrieve the last of his possessions. He
>>>>>>>>>made an appointment at the local repair place to
>>>>>>>>>have it fixed today, called and told me that SIL
>>>>>>>>>was not working ... call and have him pick me up.
>>>>>>>>>Wellllll, I drove the car in, set everything up and
>>>>>>>>>thought, geeeeeesh, I'm only a few blocks from
>>>>>>>>>home, can walk straight through the park, dodging
>>>>>>>>>the geese ... and it IS somewhat of a nice day out
>>>>>>>>>... why call? I'll probably make it home faster if
>>>>>>>>>I walk. So picked my little legs up and off I went.
>>>>>>>>>I have no idea how fast I walked, hard to judge
>>>>>>>>>without that lcd monitor in front of me <G>, but I
>>>>>>>>>was home in less than 7 minutes. And I felt
>>>>>>>>>terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current
>>>>>>>>>weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1 Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
LOL! Probably no chance on the running - interval chasing
maybe, but no official running. I did the interval thing
today and the time did seem to go by so much faster.
Tomorrow I'm going to try hooking up the treadmill to the
internet website (www.ifit.com) and do one of their pre-
programmed workouts. It automatically raises and lowers the
speed and incline - will be fun to see how it works. I now
can do this since I have semi-wireless internet capability.
woohoo!!! They also have scenic things you can hike to -
will try the 30 day free trial to see if I like it well
enough to pay $10/month. Ahhhhhhhh, new toys are fun. <g>

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:46:23 -0700, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I've also read about interval training. I know folks swear
>by it for bicycling, too. It does get the body in better
>fashion to react to different things supposedly. So keep it
>up - I guess it also made your session seem faster. Keep it
>up. Soon you will be running outdoors, through that park
>you mentioned (G)
>
>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:26:55 -0500, Joyce
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a great start.
>>I seem to do fine those first 15 minutes or so, then I
>>start looking at the clock and time tends to drag. I
>>convince myself to just go one more *lap* (1/4 mile on
>>the lcd) or a few more minutes, then if I want to quit I
>>can ... of course, that leads to more deals with myself.
>>Most of the time I do make the 40-45 minutes, sometimes I
>>do quit after 35 minutes. Afternoons I usually only make
>>about 25 minutes, as I have to get back upstairs and get
>>back to dinner prep. Today I did something different and
>>it did seem to make the time go a bit faster. I have been
>>reading many different articles on interval training, I
>>really have no clue as to whether this is good or bad -
>>but so far everything I've read has been positive. The
>>most recent article I saw said something about how
>>calories burned with the same daily routine will
>>eventually be less, as the body becomes used to the
>>routine - interval training will keep the body working
>>and burning. So ... I started with my first 15 minutes at
>>the higher speed, dropped and did 2 minutes at a lower
>>speed ... 3 minutes at high speed again, 1 minute low, 3
>>min high, 1 min low, etc. Unbelievable how quickly the
>>time did go by - maybe because I was focusing more on the
>>shorter lengths of time?
>>
>>Hitting that speed button was interesting, and a bit
>>frightening at the moment. You would think I would have
>>learned the lesson after the first time. Nope, not me -
>>did the exact same thing again today ... with the same
>>results. <sigh> I am getting rather good at being able to
>>lift myself quickly on the support bars (guess I have also
>>become a tad stronger - lol). While I can walk comfortably
>>at an 8% incline level - I can NOT walk at 8MPH!
>>
>>Joyce
>>
>>On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Well, that's my main problem with most exercise equipment
>>>- the boredom factor indoors. I've been trying to get to
>>>the exercise equipemtn at work in the mid-morning but
>>>only 15 minutes.
>>>
>>>I would like to have seen the speed button mistake (G) I
>>>did that the other day on the elliptical - I ran it
>>>backwards too suddenly and too much resistance. The
>>>elliptical with mild resistance is not bad - same as
>>>treadmill, I guess. I only have a nordic track here at
>>>home - a dust catcher
>>>
>>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried an
>>>>eliptical machine once, several years ago. I had
>>>>problems with it, again the knee thing - just wasn't for
>>>>me, I knew it wasn't something I could or would stick to
>>>>for long. I don't mind the exercycles, hubs new one
>>>>seems rather nice but I honestly haven't used it more
>>>>than a very few short minutes. The key to me for
>>>>lowering the knee stress was to find the correct spot
>>>>for the seat ... which was not easy. Too far away or too
>>>>close, and the knees screamed at me. I think that is why
>>>>I probably don't get on it now, then hub would have to
>>>>constantly move that seat back and forth. They need to
>>>>incorporate a motorized seat control, like they do in
>>>>automobiles - would be so much easier when having
>>>>multiple users. The treadmill was the perfect answer ...
>>>>for me. I love walking, it's relatively pain free if I
>>>>don't do stupid stuff (like hitting the increase speed
>>>>button instead of the increase incline - THAT result was
>>>>rather interesting this morning ... as well as producing
>>>>a bit of panic). It can be rather boring though, so I
>>>>have to find something to keep me somewhat occupied
>>>>while I'm on it.
>>>>
>>>>Joyce
>>>>
>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking to the
>>>>>U-district (Univ of Washingon is about a mile east)
>>>>>requires crossing I-5 which is an assault on the senses
>>>>>as well as walking along busy streets. And crossing north-
>>>>>south is restricted to keep the east-west flow of cars
>>>>>unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile loop around the lake is
>>>>>actually traffic light free and pretty low-key except
>>>>>at rush hour.
>>>>>
>>>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll. I'm
>>>>>trying to decide about the elliptical trainer at work
>>>>>as opposed to the treadmill. As I found a number of
>>>>>years ago with PROGRAMMED exercise bikes, the
>>>>>resistance is not as natural as real biking, even up
>>>>>steep hills. They seem to put more pressure on the knee
>>>>>that I get in real life on some very steep rides. Same
>>>>>seems to be true for the elliptical and my knees do not
>>>>>like it. I think the treadmill may be more to my
>>>>>liking, well, to my knees' liking.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F was a
>>>>>new record high for the date. But CLOUDY right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I don't
>>>>>>like doing so amid heavy traffic and nutsy drivers.
>>>>>>Our locale does have sidewalks, but even crossing the
>>>>>>streets you take your life into your own hands. It
>>>>>>never ceases to amaze me just how unconscious and
>>>>>>incondsiderate drivers are around here. My house sits
>>>>>>in a very quiet neighborhood, and is relatively
>>>>>>traffic free - other than those goofballs that have to
>>>>>>drive through in a hurry to avoid traffic lights. The
>>>>>>problem begins if I travel 1/2 a block to the west, 2
>>>>>>blocks to the east, or 3 blocks to the north ... all
>>>>>>major runways - two of which are considered state
>>>>>>highways. I just need to remember to cross at the
>>>>>>stoplight, which is out of my way if heading to the
>>>>>>store. It at least gives me a fighting chance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm but not
>>>>>>bitter cold either. This afternoon and evening had
>>>>>>some serious gusts blowing through - had my downdraft
>>>>>>flap on the stove rattling wildly. That is really a
>>>>>>hoot and took me quite some time to figure out what
>>>>>>exactly I was hearing. When I am upstairs, I know
>>>>>>what it
>>>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles through the
>>>>>> oven. But when in the basement ... it sounds
>>>>>> exactly like someone is knocking ferociously on
>>>>>> the door (the exterior flap is only a few feet
>>>>>> north and at ceiling level of the wall the
>>>>>> treadmill is on. A few weeks ago I kept running up
>>>>>> and down stairs, thinking someone was playing
>>>>>> games with me. I was rather slow in solving the
>>>>>> mystery. <G>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl was
>>>>>>asking me this morning for excercise advice? LOL! Who
>>>>>>woulda ever thought! She has bought herself an
>>>>>>eliptical machine, finally got it up and running last
>>>>>>week and wanted some advise on how long she should be
>>>>>>using it and how often. She is being incredibly hard
>>>>>>on herself because she is only going 20 minutes on
>>>>>>alternating days. I told her she really needed to
>>>>>>remember that she is also dealing with 2 small
>>>>>>children and their schedules, just gave birth 2 months
>>>>>>ago (and is already back to her pre-pregnancy weight),
>>>>>>and starting an exercise routine for the first time in
>>>>>>many years. Start slow, work up - my advise in a
>>>>>>nutshell. We're currently trying to figure out how to
>>>>>>tunnel under the street and connect the two basements
>>>>>>... could have one heck of a gym set up. <G>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle is a
>>>>>>>pretty good walking town if you like HILLS!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in the
>>>>>>>mountains I don't know what they reached. But it was
>>>>>>>mind-blowingly perfect UP there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I figure out
>>>>>>>how (G)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at hovering,
>>>>>>>>aren't I? <G>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't it?
>>>>>>>>Wonder why I didn't think of it before. <G> Really,
>>>>>>>>I usually don't as the traffic is very heavy in this
>>>>>>>>area
>>>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy
>>>>>>>> drivers. But I knew I could use the back entrance
>>>>>>>> and only have to cross on street to get to the
>>>>>>>> park, then it was quiet and peaceful. Hub and I
>>>>>>>> will usually walk this route when we go to the
>>>>>>>> bread outlet store - but having to cross the major
>>>>>>>> roads does not enthuse me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ... was 45F
>>>>>>>>when I was out this morning. But it felt like a heat
>>>>>>>>wave compared to those 30's. I think they are
>>>>>>>>talking similar temps all week long, but I also
>>>>>>>>believe they have no rain in the forecast. THAT's
>>>>>>>>nice for a change.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even if it
>>>>>>>>>was an upward hover somewhere along the line (G)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing, truly
>>>>>>>>>amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too. 60F+ and
>>>>>>>>>today and closer to 70F tomorrow (when I hope to
>>>>>>>>>ski or, at least, hike)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance for me
>>>>>>>>>>... down, down, down all week long ... up today
>>>>>>>>>>for weigh in. Isn't that the way life always goes?
>>>>>>>>>><G> No biggie, todays weight still showed me a 1.3
>>>>>>>>>>loss from last week and really did not surprise me
>>>>>>>>>>at all as I had a very salty meal last nite which
>>>>>>>>>>had me drinking mega quantities ... and not
>>>>>>>>>>running to the potty. <G> I'll enjoy knowing that
>>>>>>>>>>during the week I DID see lower numbers and will
>>>>>>>>>>not allow myself to get worked up over this. I AM
>>>>>>>>>>MAINTAINING, and quite nicely I feel. So the
>>>>>>>>>>official Friday numbers are
>>>>>>>>>>.......................
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total loss
>>>>>>>>>>to date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me ...
>>>>>>>>>>which for most probably isn't a big deal, but it
>>>>>>>>>>made me feel good. Last night hub noticed I had
>>>>>>>>>>driven a huge screw into the rear tire of one of
>>>>>>>>>>our vehicles, of course the one that sonny boy
>>>>>>>>>>needs to borrow to head up to the old college
>>>>>>>>>>campus and retrieve the last of his possessions.
>>>>>>>>>>He made an appointment at the local repair place
>>>>>>>>>>to have it fixed today, called and told me that
>>>>>>>>>>SIL was not working ... call and have him pick me
>>>>>>>>>>up. Wellllll, I drove the car in, set everything
>>>>>>>>>>up and thought, geeeeeesh, I'm only a few blocks
>>>>>>>>>>from home, can walk straight through the park,
>>>>>>>>>>dodging the geese ... and it IS somewhat of a nice
>>>>>>>>>>day out ... why call? I'll probably make it home
>>>>>>>>>>faster if I walk. So picked my little legs up and
>>>>>>>>>>off I went. I have no idea how fast I walked, hard
>>>>>>>>>>to judge without that lcd monitor in front of me
>>>>>>>>>><G>, but I was home in less than 7 minutes. And I
>>>>>>>>>>felt terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current
>>>>>>>>>>weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1 Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
Sheesh, hooked up a treadmill to an interactive internet
site. Remote control of your aerobic workout. Reminds me of
"The Outer Limits - we are in control of the horizontal, we
are in control of the vertical, we will run your butt off!"

I see they only use IE. Ah, they have a Half Dome - Yosemite
workout. I've been up there. It would be wonderfully scenic.

So, what - you hook up the treadmill to a usb port?

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:55:13 -0500, Joyce
<[email protected]> wrote:

>LOL! Probably no chance on the running - interval chasing
>maybe, but no official running. I did the interval thing
>today and the time did seem to go by so much faster.
>Tomorrow I'm going to try hooking up the treadmill to the
>internet website (www.ifit.com) and do one of their pre-
>programmed workouts. It automatically raises and lowers the
>speed and incline - will be fun to see how it works. I now
>can do this since I have semi-wireless internet capability.
>woohoo!!! They also have scenic things you can hike to -
>will try the 30 day free trial to see if I like it well
>enough to pay $10/month. Ahhhhhhhh, new toys are fun. <g>
>
>Joyce
>
>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:46:23 -0700, Fred
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I've also read about interval training. I know folks swear
>>by it for bicycling, too. It does get the body in better
>>fashion to react to different things supposedly. So keep
>>it up - I guess it also made your session seem faster.
>>Keep it up. Soon you will be running outdoors, through
>>that park you mentioned (G)
>>
>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:26:55 -0500, Joyce
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a great start.
>>>I seem to do fine those first 15 minutes or so, then I
>>>start looking at the clock and time tends to drag. I
>>>convince myself to just go one more *lap* (1/4 mile on
>>>the lcd) or a few more minutes, then if I want to quit I
>>>can ... of course, that leads to more deals with myself.
>>>Most of the time I do make the 40-45 minutes, sometimes I
>>>do quit after 35 minutes. Afternoons I usually only make
>>>about 25 minutes, as I have to get back upstairs and get
>>>back to dinner prep. Today I did something different and
>>>it did seem to make the time go a bit faster. I have been
>>>reading many different articles on interval training, I
>>>really have no clue as to whether this is good or bad -
>>>but so far everything I've read has been positive. The
>>>most recent article I saw said something about how
>>>calories burned with the same daily routine will
>>>eventually be less, as the body becomes used to the
>>>routine - interval training will keep the body working
>>>and burning. So ... I started with my first 15 minutes at
>>>the higher speed, dropped and did 2 minutes at a lower
>>>speed ... 3 minutes at high speed again, 1 minute low, 3
>>>min high, 1 min low, etc. Unbelievable how quickly the
>>>time did go by - maybe because I was focusing more on the
>>>shorter lengths of time?
>>>
>>>Hitting that speed button was interesting, and a bit
>>>frightening at the moment. You would think I would have
>>>learned the lesson after the first time. Nope, not me -
>>>did the exact same thing again today ... with the same
>>>results. <sigh> I am getting rather good at being able
>>>to lift myself quickly on the support bars (guess I
>>>have also become a tad stronger - lol). While I can
>>>walk comfortably at an 8% incline level - I can NOT
>>>walk at 8MPH!
>>>
>>>Joyce
>>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well, that's my main problem with most exercise
>>>>equipment - the boredom factor indoors. I've been trying
>>>>to get to the exercise equipemtn at work in the mid-
>>>>morning but only 15 minutes.
>>>>
>>>>I would like to have seen the speed button mistake (G) I
>>>>did that the other day on the elliptical - I ran it
>>>>backwards too suddenly and too much resistance. The
>>>>elliptical with mild resistance is not bad - same as
>>>>treadmill, I guess. I only have a nordic track here at
>>>>home - a dust catcher
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried an
>>>>>eliptical machine once, several years ago. I had
>>>>>problems with it, again the knee thing - just wasn't
>>>>>for me, I knew it wasn't something I could or would
>>>>>stick to for long. I don't mind the exercycles, hubs
>>>>>new one seems rather nice but I honestly haven't used
>>>>>it more than a very few short minutes. The key to me
>>>>>for lowering the knee stress was to find the correct
>>>>>spot for the seat ... which was not easy. Too far away
>>>>>or too close, and the knees screamed at me. I think
>>>>>that is why I probably don't get on it now, then hub
>>>>>would have to constantly move that seat back and forth.
>>>>>They need to incorporate a motorized seat control, like
>>>>>they do in automobiles - would be so much easier when
>>>>>having multiple users. The treadmill was the perfect
>>>>>answer ... for me. I love walking, it's relatively pain
>>>>>free if I don't do stupid stuff (like hitting the
>>>>>increase speed button instead of the increase incline -
>>>>>THAT result was rather interesting this morning ... as
>>>>>well as producing a bit of panic). It can be rather
>>>>>boring though, so I have to find something to keep me
>>>>>somewhat occupied while I'm on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking to
>>>>>>the U-district (Univ of Washingon is about a mile
>>>>>>east) requires crossing I-5 which is an assault on the
>>>>>>senses as well as walking along busy streets. And
>>>>>>crossing north-south is restricted to keep the east-
>>>>>>west flow of cars unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile loop
>>>>>>around the lake is actually traffic light free and
>>>>>>pretty low-key except at rush hour.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll. I'm
>>>>>>trying to decide about the elliptical trainer at work
>>>>>>as opposed to the treadmill. As I found a number of
>>>>>>years ago with PROGRAMMED exercise bikes, the
>>>>>>resistance is not as natural as real biking, even up
>>>>>>steep hills. They seem to put more pressure on the
>>>>>>knee that I get in real life on some very steep rides.
>>>>>>Same seems to be true for the elliptical and my knees
>>>>>>do not like it. I think the treadmill may be more to
>>>>>>my liking, well, to my knees' liking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F was a
>>>>>>new record high for the date. But CLOUDY right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I don't
>>>>>>>like doing so amid heavy traffic and nutsy drivers.
>>>>>>>Our locale does have sidewalks, but even crossing the
>>>>>>>streets you take your life into your own hands. It
>>>>>>>never ceases to amaze me just how unconscious and
>>>>>>>incondsiderate drivers are around here. My house sits
>>>>>>>in a very quiet neighborhood, and is relatively
>>>>>>>traffic free - other than those goofballs that have
>>>>>>>to drive through in a hurry to avoid traffic lights.
>>>>>>>The problem begins if I travel 1/2 a block to the
>>>>>>>west, 2 blocks to the east, or 3 blocks to the north
>>>>>>>... all major runways - two of which are considered
>>>>>>>state highways. I just need to remember to cross at
>>>>>>>the stoplight, which is out of my way if heading to
>>>>>>>the store. It at least gives me a fighting chance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm but not
>>>>>>>bitter cold either. This afternoon and evening had
>>>>>>>some serious gusts blowing through - had my downdraft
>>>>>>>flap on the stove rattling wildly. That is really a
>>>>>>>hoot and took me quite some time to figure out what
>>>>>>>exactly I was hearing. When I am upstairs, I know
>>>>>>>what it
>>>>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles through
>>>>>>> the oven. But when in the basement ... it sounds
>>>>>>> exactly like someone is knocking ferociously on
>>>>>>> the door (the exterior flap is only a few feet
>>>>>>> north and at ceiling level of the wall the
>>>>>>> treadmill is on. A few weeks ago I kept running
>>>>>>> up and down stairs, thinking someone was playing
>>>>>>> games with me. I was rather slow in solving the
>>>>>>> mystery. <G>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl was
>>>>>>>asking me this morning for excercise advice? LOL! Who
>>>>>>>woulda ever thought! She has bought herself an
>>>>>>>eliptical machine, finally got it up and running last
>>>>>>>week and wanted some advise on how long she should be
>>>>>>>using it and how often. She is being incredibly hard
>>>>>>>on herself because she is only going 20 minutes on
>>>>>>>alternating days. I told her she really needed to
>>>>>>>remember that she is also dealing with 2 small
>>>>>>>children and their schedules, just gave birth 2
>>>>>>>months ago (and is already back to her pre-pregnancy
>>>>>>>weight), and starting an exercise routine for the
>>>>>>>first time in many years. Start slow, work up - my
>>>>>>>advise in a nutshell. We're currently trying to
>>>>>>>figure out how to tunnel under the street and connect
>>>>>>>the two basements ... could have one heck of a gym
>>>>>>>set up. <G>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle is a
>>>>>>>>pretty good walking town if you like HILLS!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in the
>>>>>>>>mountains I don't know what they reached. But it was
>>>>>>>>mind-blowingly perfect UP there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I figure out
>>>>>>>>how (G)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at hovering,
>>>>>>>>>aren't I? <G>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't it?
>>>>>>>>>Wonder why I didn't think of it before. <G> Really,
>>>>>>>>>I usually don't as the traffic is very heavy in
>>>>>>>>>this area
>>>>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy
>>>>>>>>> drivers. But I knew I could use the back entrance
>>>>>>>>> and only have to cross on street to get to the
>>>>>>>>> park, then it was quiet and peaceful. Hub and I
>>>>>>>>> will usually walk this route when we go to the
>>>>>>>>> bread outlet store - but having to cross the
>>>>>>>>> major roads does not enthuse me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ... was
>>>>>>>>>45F when I was out this morning. But it felt like a
>>>>>>>>>heat wave compared to those 30's. I think they are
>>>>>>>>>talking similar temps all week long, but I also
>>>>>>>>>believe they have no rain in the forecast. THAT's
>>>>>>>>>nice for a change.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even if it
>>>>>>>>>>was an upward hover somewhere along the line (G)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing, truly
>>>>>>>>>>amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too. 60F+ and
>>>>>>>>>>today and closer to 70F tomorrow (when I hope to
>>>>>>>>>>ski or, at least, hike)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance for
>>>>>>>>>>>me ... down, down, down all week long ... up
>>>>>>>>>>>today for weigh in. Isn't that the way life
>>>>>>>>>>>always goes? <G> No biggie, todays weight still
>>>>>>>>>>>showed me a 1.3 loss from last week and really
>>>>>>>>>>>did not surprise me at all as I had a very salty
>>>>>>>>>>>meal last nite which had me drinking mega
>>>>>>>>>>>quantities ... and not running to the potty. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>I'll enjoy knowing that during the week I DID see
>>>>>>>>>>>lower numbers and will not allow myself to get
>>>>>>>>>>>worked up over this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite
>>>>>>>>>>>nicely I feel. So the official Friday numbers are
>>>>>>>>>>>.......................
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total loss
>>>>>>>>>>>to date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me ...
>>>>>>>>>>>which for most probably isn't a big deal, but it
>>>>>>>>>>>made me feel good. Last night hub noticed I had
>>>>>>>>>>>driven a huge screw into the rear tire of one of
>>>>>>>>>>>our vehicles, of course the one that sonny boy
>>>>>>>>>>>needs to borrow to head up to the old college
>>>>>>>>>>>campus and retrieve the last of his possessions.
>>>>>>>>>>>He made an appointment at the local repair place
>>>>>>>>>>>to have it fixed today, called and told me that
>>>>>>>>>>>SIL was not working ... call and have him pick me
>>>>>>>>>>>up. Wellllll, I drove the car in, set everything
>>>>>>>>>>>up and thought, geeeeeesh, I'm only a few blocks
>>>>>>>>>>>from home, can walk straight through the park,
>>>>>>>>>>>dodging the geese ... and it IS somewhat of a
>>>>>>>>>>>nice day out ... why call? I'll probably make it
>>>>>>>>>>>home faster if I walk. So picked my little legs
>>>>>>>>>>>up and off I went. I have no idea how fast I
>>>>>>>>>>>walked, hard to judge without that lcd monitor in
>>>>>>>>>>>front of me <G>, but I was home in less than 7
>>>>>>>>>>>minutes. And I felt terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current
>>>>>>>>>>>weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1 Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
It really is pretty neat, but not flawless. The signal that
is sent from the computer to the treadmill happens very
quickly - so sometimes is *missed* and the treadmill does
not adjust to the new speed/incline. And twice now it has
misread the signal and boosted me to mega-speeds (which is
always interesting). But ... these workouts are shown on the
computer screen with the speed and incline in large print -
so I can manually adjust very easily. I am finding they are
much better workouts than I was doing on my own, and the
time seems to pass so much more quickly (probably because of
the constantly changing speed/inclines). I've also found
that I've quickly become addicted ... I can't seem to stay
away from the treadmill now. Not sure if that is a good
thing or not. <g>

I've looked at a few of their scenic workouts, not really
for *me*. I thought it would be just like trekking through
the mountains, which would be fun. Nope. It appears more to
be someone that has taken video shots of the scenery,
stairs, sky, whatever - and explains what you are viewing.

My brother and I were talking when we were setting up the
treadmill - he said it reminded him of the old jetson's
cartoons ... when he was on a similar thing running with the
dog. Who would have thought. <g>

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:00:25 -0700, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Sheesh, hooked up a treadmill to an interactive internet
>site. Remote control of your aerobic workout. Reminds me of
>"The Outer Limits - we are in control of the horizontal, we
>are in control of the vertical, we will run your butt off!"
>
>I see they only use IE. Ah, they have a Half Dome -
>Yosemite workout. I've been up there. It would be
>wonderfully scenic.
>
>So, what - you hook up the treadmill to a usb port?
>
>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:55:13 -0500, Joyce
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>LOL! Probably no chance on the running - interval chasing
>>maybe, but no official running. I did the interval thing
>>today and the time did seem to go by so much faster.
>>Tomorrow I'm going to try hooking up the treadmill to the
>>internet website (www.ifit.com) and do one of their pre-
>>programmed workouts. It automatically raises and lowers
>>the speed and incline - will be fun to see how it works. I
>>now can do this since I have semi-wireless internet
>>capability. woohoo!!! They also have scenic things you can
>>hike to - will try the 30 day free trial to see if I like
>>it well enough to pay $10/month. Ahhhhhhhh, new toys are
>>fun. <g>
>>
>>Joyce
>>
>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:46:23 -0700, Fred
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I've also read about interval training. I know folks
>>>swear by it for bicycling, too. It does get the body in
>>>better fashion to react to different things supposedly.
>>>So keep it up - I guess it also made your session seem
>>>faster. Keep it up. Soon you will be running outdoors,
>>>through that park you mentioned (G)
>>>
>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:26:55 -0500, Joyce
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a great
>>>>start. I seem to do fine those first 15 minutes or so,
>>>>then I start looking at the clock and time tends to
>>>>drag. I convince myself to just go one more *lap* (1/4
>>>>mile on the lcd) or a few more minutes, then if I want
>>>>to quit I can ... of course, that leads to more deals
>>>>with myself. Most of the time I do make the 40-45
>>>>minutes, sometimes I do quit after 35 minutes.
>>>>Afternoons I usually only make about 25 minutes, as I
>>>>have to get back upstairs and get back to dinner prep.
>>>>Today I did something different and it did seem to make
>>>>the time go a bit faster. I have been reading many
>>>>different articles on interval training, I really have
>>>>no clue as to whether this is good or bad - but so far
>>>>everything I've read has been positive. The most recent
>>>>article I saw said something about how calories burned
>>>>with the same daily routine will eventually be less, as
>>>>the body becomes used to the routine - interval
>>>>training will keep the body working and burning. So ...
>>>>I started with my first 15 minutes at the higher speed,
>>>>dropped and did 2 minutes at a lower speed ... 3
>>>>minutes at high speed again, 1 minute low, 3 min high,
>>>>1 min low, etc. Unbelievable how quickly the time did
>>>>go by - maybe because I was focusing more on the
>>>>shorter lengths of time?
>>>>
>>>>Hitting that speed button was interesting, and a bit
>>>>frightening at the moment. You would think I would have
>>>>learned the lesson after the first time. Nope, not me -
>>>>did the exact same thing again today ... with the same
>>>>results. <sigh> I am getting rather good at being able
>>>>to lift myself quickly on the support bars (guess I
>>>>have also become a tad stronger - lol). While I can
>>>>walk comfortably at an 8% incline level - I can NOT
>>>>walk at 8MPH!
>>>>
>>>>Joyce
>>>>
>>>>On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Well, that's my main problem with most exercise
>>>>>equipment - the boredom factor indoors. I've been
>>>>>trying to get to the exercise equipemtn at work in the
>>>>>mid-morning but only 15 minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>>I would like to have seen the speed button mistake (G)
>>>>>I did that the other day on the elliptical - I ran it
>>>>>backwards too suddenly and too much resistance. The
>>>>>elliptical with mild resistance is not bad - same as
>>>>>treadmill, I guess. I only have a nordic track here at
>>>>>home - a dust catcher
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried an
>>>>>>eliptical machine once, several years ago. I had
>>>>>>problems with it, again the knee thing - just wasn't
>>>>>>for me, I knew it wasn't something I could or would
>>>>>>stick to for long. I don't mind the exercycles, hubs
>>>>>>new one seems rather nice but I honestly haven't used
>>>>>>it more than a very few short minutes. The key to me
>>>>>>for lowering the knee stress was to find the correct
>>>>>>spot for the seat ... which was not easy. Too far
>>>>>>away or too close, and the knees screamed at me. I
>>>>>>think that is why I probably don't get on it now,
>>>>>>then hub would have to constantly move that seat back
>>>>>>and forth. They need to incorporate a motorized seat
>>>>>>control, like they do in automobiles - would be so
>>>>>>much easier when having multiple users. The treadmill
>>>>>>was the perfect answer ... for me. I love walking,
>>>>>>it's relatively pain free if I don't do stupid stuff
>>>>>>(like hitting the increase speed button instead of
>>>>>>the increase incline - THAT result was rather
>>>>>>interesting this morning ... as well as producing a
>>>>>>bit of panic). It can be rather boring though, so I
>>>>>>have to find something to keep me somewhat occupied
>>>>>>while I'm on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking to
>>>>>>>the U-district (Univ of Washingon is about a mile
>>>>>>>east) requires crossing I-5 which is an assault on
>>>>>>>the senses as well as walking along busy streets. And
>>>>>>>crossing north-south is restricted to keep the east-
>>>>>>>west flow of cars unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile loop
>>>>>>>around the lake is actually traffic light free and
>>>>>>>pretty low-key except at rush hour.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll. I'm
>>>>>>>trying to decide about the elliptical trainer at work
>>>>>>>as opposed to the treadmill. As I found a number of
>>>>>>>years ago with PROGRAMMED exercise bikes, the
>>>>>>>resistance is not as natural as real biking, even up
>>>>>>>steep hills. They seem to put more pressure on the
>>>>>>>knee that I get in real life on some very steep
>>>>>>>rides. Same seems to be true for the elliptical and
>>>>>>>my knees do not like it. I think the treadmill may be
>>>>>>>more to my liking, well, to my knees' liking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F was a
>>>>>>>new record high for the date. But CLOUDY right now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I don't
>>>>>>>>like doing so amid heavy traffic and nutsy drivers.
>>>>>>>>Our locale does have sidewalks, but even crossing
>>>>>>>>the streets you take your life into your own hands.
>>>>>>>>It never ceases to amaze me just how unconscious and
>>>>>>>>incondsiderate drivers are around here. My house
>>>>>>>>sits in a very quiet neighborhood, and is relatively
>>>>>>>>traffic free - other than those goofballs that have
>>>>>>>>to drive through in a hurry to avoid traffic lights.
>>>>>>>>The problem begins if I travel 1/2 a block to the
>>>>>>>>west, 2 blocks to the east, or 3 blocks to the north
>>>>>>>>... all major runways - two of which are considered
>>>>>>>>state highways. I just need to remember to cross at
>>>>>>>>the stoplight, which is out of my way if heading to
>>>>>>>>the store. It at least gives me a fighting chance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm but
>>>>>>>>not bitter cold either. This afternoon and evening
>>>>>>>>had some serious gusts blowing through - had my
>>>>>>>>downdraft flap on the stove rattling wildly. That is
>>>>>>>>really a hoot and took me quite some time to figure
>>>>>>>>out what exactly I was hearing. When I am upstairs,
>>>>>>>>I know what it
>>>>>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles through
>>>>>>>> the oven. But when in the basement ... it sounds
>>>>>>>> exactly like someone is knocking ferociously on
>>>>>>>> the door (the exterior flap is only a few feet
>>>>>>>> north and at ceiling level of the wall the
>>>>>>>> treadmill is on. A few weeks ago I kept running
>>>>>>>> up and down stairs, thinking someone was playing
>>>>>>>> games with me. I was rather slow in solving the
>>>>>>>> mystery. <G>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl was
>>>>>>>>asking me this morning for excercise advice? LOL!
>>>>>>>>Who woulda ever thought! She has bought herself an
>>>>>>>>eliptical machine, finally got it up and running
>>>>>>>>last week and wanted some advise on how long she
>>>>>>>>should be using it and how often. She is being
>>>>>>>>incredibly hard on herself because she is only going
>>>>>>>>20 minutes on alternating days. I told her she
>>>>>>>>really needed to remember that she is also dealing
>>>>>>>>with 2 small children and their schedules, just gave
>>>>>>>>birth 2 months ago (and is already back to her pre-
>>>>>>>>pregnancy weight), and starting an exercise routine
>>>>>>>>for the first time in many years. Start slow, work
>>>>>>>>up - my advise in a nutshell. We're currently trying
>>>>>>>>to figure out how to tunnel under the street and
>>>>>>>>connect the two basements ... could have one heck of
>>>>>>>>a gym set up. <G>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle is a
>>>>>>>>>pretty good walking town if you like HILLS!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in the
>>>>>>>>>mountains I don't know what they reached. But it
>>>>>>>>>was mind-blowingly perfect UP there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I figure
>>>>>>>>>out how (G)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at hovering,
>>>>>>>>>>aren't I? <G>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't it?
>>>>>>>>>>Wonder why I didn't think of it before. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>Really, I usually don't as the traffic is very
>>>>>>>>>>heavy in this area
>>>>>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy
>>>>>>>>>> drivers. But I knew I could use the back
>>>>>>>>>> entrance and only have to cross on street to get
>>>>>>>>>> to the park, then it was quiet and peaceful. Hub
>>>>>>>>>> and I will usually walk this route when we go to
>>>>>>>>>> the bread outlet store - but having to cross the
>>>>>>>>>> major roads does not enthuse me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ... was
>>>>>>>>>>45F when I was out this morning. But it felt like
>>>>>>>>>>a heat wave compared to those 30's. I think they
>>>>>>>>>>are talking similar temps all week long, but I
>>>>>>>>>>also believe they have no rain in the forecast.
>>>>>>>>>>THAT's nice for a change.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even if it
>>>>>>>>>>>was an upward hover somewhere along the line (G)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing,
>>>>>>>>>>>truly amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>60F+ and today and closer to 70F tomorrow (when I
>>>>>>>>>>>hope to ski or, at least, hike)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance for
>>>>>>>>>>>>me ... down, down, down all week long ... up
>>>>>>>>>>>>today for weigh in. Isn't that the way life
>>>>>>>>>>>>always goes? <G> No biggie, todays weight still
>>>>>>>>>>>>showed me a 1.3 loss from last week and really
>>>>>>>>>>>>did not surprise me at all as I had a very salty
>>>>>>>>>>>>meal last nite which had me drinking mega
>>>>>>>>>>>>quantities ... and not running to the potty. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I'll enjoy knowing that during the week I DID
>>>>>>>>>>>>see lower numbers and will not allow myself to
>>>>>>>>>>>>get worked up over this. I AM MAINTAINING, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>quite nicely I feel. So the official Friday
>>>>>>>>>>>>numbers are .......................
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total
>>>>>>>>>>>>loss to date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>which for most probably isn't a big deal, but it
>>>>>>>>>>>>made me feel good. Last night hub noticed I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>driven a huge screw into the rear tire of one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>our vehicles, of course the one that sonny boy
>>>>>>>>>>>>needs to borrow to head up to the old college
>>>>>>>>>>>>campus and retrieve the last of his possessions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>He made an appointment at the local repair place
>>>>>>>>>>>>to have it fixed today, called and told me that
>>>>>>>>>>>>SIL was not working ... call and have him pick
>>>>>>>>>>>>me up. Wellllll, I drove the car in, set
>>>>>>>>>>>>everything up and thought, geeeeeesh, I'm only a
>>>>>>>>>>>>few blocks from home, can walk straight through
>>>>>>>>>>>>the park, dodging the geese ... and it IS
>>>>>>>>>>>>somewhat of a nice day out ... why call? I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>probably make it home faster if I walk. So
>>>>>>>>>>>>picked my little legs up and off I went. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>no idea how fast I walked, hard to judge without
>>>>>>>>>>>>that lcd monitor in front of me <G>, but I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>home in less than 7 minutes. And I felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current
>>>>>>>>>>>>weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1 Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
I guess I still find that pretty amazing. The control of the
treadmill over the internet. And it sounds as if it works by
making things more interesting and possibly challenging.

I might like the visuals but maybe too touristy.

We ARE living in the just pre-jetson's era and it gets
closer daily. Good? Bad? or just plain INTERESTING?

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 02:05:38 -0500, Joyce
<[email protected]> wrote:

>It really is pretty neat, but not flawless. The signal that
>is sent from the computer to the treadmill happens very
>quickly - so sometimes is *missed* and the treadmill does
>not adjust to the new speed/incline. And twice now it has
>misread the signal and boosted me to mega-speeds (which is
>always interesting). But ... these workouts are shown on
>the computer screen with the speed and incline in large
>print - so I can manually adjust very easily. I am finding
>they are much better workouts than I was doing on my own,
>and the time seems to pass so much more quickly (probably
>because of the constantly changing speed/inclines). I've
>also found that I've quickly become addicted ... I can't
>seem to stay away from the treadmill now. Not sure if that
>is a good thing or not. <g>
>
>I've looked at a few of their scenic workouts, not really
>for *me*. I thought it would be just like trekking through
>the mountains, which would be fun. Nope. It appears more to
>be someone that has taken video shots of the scenery,
>stairs, sky, whatever - and explains what you are viewing.
>
>My brother and I were talking when we were setting up the
>treadmill - he said it reminded him of the old jetson's
>cartoons ... when he was on a similar thing running with
>the dog. Who would have thought. <g>
>
>Joyce
>
>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:00:25 -0700, Fred
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Sheesh, hooked up a treadmill to an interactive internet
>>site. Remote control of your aerobic workout. Reminds me
>>of "The Outer Limits - we are in control of the
>>horizontal, we are in control of the vertical, we will run
>>your butt off!"
>>
>>I see they only use IE. Ah, they have a Half Dome -
>>Yosemite workout. I've been up there. It would be
>>wonderfully scenic.
>>
>>So, what - you hook up the treadmill to a usb port?
>>
>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:55:13 -0500, Joyce
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>LOL! Probably no chance on the running - interval chasing
>>>maybe, but no official running. I did the interval thing
>>>today and the time did seem to go by so much faster.
>>>Tomorrow I'm going to try hooking up the treadmill to the
>>>internet website (www.ifit.com) and do one of their pre-
>>>programmed workouts. It automatically raises and lowers
>>>the speed and incline - will be fun to see how it works.
>>>I now can do this since I have semi-wireless internet
>>>capability. woohoo!!! They also have scenic things you
>>>can hike to - will try the 30 day free trial to see if I
>>>like it well enough to pay $10/month. Ahhhhhhhh, new toys
>>>are fun. <g>
>>>
>>>Joyce
>>>
>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:46:23 -0700, Fred
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've also read about interval training. I know folks
>>>>swear by it for bicycling, too. It does get the body in
>>>>better fashion to react to different things supposedly.
>>>>So keep it up - I guess it also made your session seem
>>>>faster. Keep it up. Soon you will be running outdoors,
>>>>through that park you mentioned (G)
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:26:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a great
>>>>>start. I seem to do fine those first 15 minutes or so,
>>>>>then I start looking at the clock and time tends to
>>>>>drag. I convince myself to just go one more *lap* (1/4
>>>>>mile on the lcd) or a few more minutes, then if I want
>>>>>to quit I can ... of course, that leads to more deals
>>>>>with myself. Most of the time I do make the 40-45
>>>>>minutes, sometimes I do quit after 35 minutes.
>>>>>Afternoons I usually only make about 25 minutes, as I
>>>>>have to get back upstairs and get back to dinner prep.
>>>>>Today I did something different and it did seem to make
>>>>>the time go a bit faster. I have been reading many
>>>>>different articles on interval training, I really have
>>>>>no clue as to whether this is good or bad - but so far
>>>>>everything I've read has been positive. The most recent
>>>>>article I saw said something about how calories burned
>>>>>with the same daily routine will eventually be less, as
>>>>>the body becomes used to the routine - interval
>>>>>training will keep the body working and burning. So ...
>>>>>I started with my first 15 minutes at the higher speed,
>>>>>dropped and did 2 minutes at a lower speed ... 3
>>>>>minutes at high speed again, 1 minute low, 3 min high,
>>>>>1 min low, etc. Unbelievable how quickly the time did
>>>>>go by - maybe because I was focusing more on the
>>>>>shorter lengths of time?
>>>>>
>>>>>Hitting that speed button was interesting, and a bit
>>>>>frightening at the moment. You would think I would have
>>>>>learned the lesson after the first time. Nope, not me -
>>>>>did the exact same thing again today ... with the same
>>>>>results. <sigh> I am getting rather good at being able
>>>>>to lift myself quickly on the support bars (guess I
>>>>>have also become a tad stronger - lol). While I can
>>>>>walk comfortably at an 8% incline level - I can NOT
>>>>>walk at 8MPH!
>>>>>
>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, that's my main problem with most exercise
>>>>>>equipment - the boredom factor indoors. I've been
>>>>>>trying to get to the exercise equipemtn at work in the
>>>>>>mid-morning but only 15 minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would like to have seen the speed button mistake (G)
>>>>>>I did that the other day on the elliptical - I ran it
>>>>>>backwards too suddenly and too much resistance. The
>>>>>>elliptical with mild resistance is not bad - same as
>>>>>>treadmill, I guess. I only have a nordic track here at
>>>>>>home - a dust catcher
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried an
>>>>>>>eliptical machine once, several years ago. I had
>>>>>>>problems with it, again the knee thing - just wasn't
>>>>>>>for me, I knew it wasn't something I could or would
>>>>>>>stick to for long. I don't mind the exercycles, hubs
>>>>>>>new one seems rather nice but I honestly haven't used
>>>>>>>it more than a very few short minutes. The key to me
>>>>>>>for lowering the knee stress was to find the correct
>>>>>>>spot for the seat ... which was not easy. Too far
>>>>>>>away or too close, and the knees screamed at me. I
>>>>>>>think that is why I probably don't get on it now,
>>>>>>>then hub would have to constantly move that seat back
>>>>>>>and forth. They need to incorporate a motorized seat
>>>>>>>control, like they do in automobiles - would be so
>>>>>>>much easier when having multiple users. The treadmill
>>>>>>>was the perfect answer ... for me. I love walking,
>>>>>>>it's relatively pain free if I don't do stupid stuff
>>>>>>>(like hitting the increase speed button instead of
>>>>>>>the increase incline - THAT result was rather
>>>>>>>interesting this morning ... as well as producing a
>>>>>>>bit of panic). It can be rather boring though, so I
>>>>>>>have to find something to keep me somewhat occupied
>>>>>>>while I'm on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking to
>>>>>>>>the U-district (Univ of Washingon is about a mile
>>>>>>>>east) requires crossing I-5 which is an assault on
>>>>>>>>the senses as well as walking along busy streets.
>>>>>>>>And crossing north-south is restricted to keep the
>>>>>>>>east-west flow of cars unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile
>>>>>>>>loop around the lake is actually traffic light free
>>>>>>>>and pretty low-key except at rush hour.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll. I'm
>>>>>>>>trying to decide about the elliptical trainer at
>>>>>>>>work as opposed to the treadmill. As I found a
>>>>>>>>number of years ago with PROGRAMMED exercise bikes,
>>>>>>>>the resistance is not as natural as real biking,
>>>>>>>>even up steep hills. They seem to put more pressure
>>>>>>>>on the knee that I get in real life on some very
>>>>>>>>steep rides. Same seems to be true for the
>>>>>>>>elliptical and my knees do not like it. I think the
>>>>>>>>treadmill may be more to my liking, well, to my
>>>>>>>>knees' liking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F was a
>>>>>>>>new record high for the date. But CLOUDY right now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I don't
>>>>>>>>>like doing so amid heavy traffic and nutsy drivers.
>>>>>>>>>Our locale does have sidewalks, but even crossing
>>>>>>>>>the streets you take your life into your own hands.
>>>>>>>>>It never ceases to amaze me just how unconscious
>>>>>>>>>and incondsiderate drivers are around here. My
>>>>>>>>>house sits in a very quiet neighborhood, and is
>>>>>>>>>relatively traffic free - other than those
>>>>>>>>>goofballs that have to drive through in a hurry to
>>>>>>>>>avoid traffic lights. The problem begins if I
>>>>>>>>>travel 1/2 a block to the west, 2 blocks to the
>>>>>>>>>east, or 3 blocks to the north ... all major
>>>>>>>>>runways - two of which are considered state
>>>>>>>>>highways. I just need to remember to cross at the
>>>>>>>>>stoplight, which is out of my way if heading to the
>>>>>>>>>store. It at least gives me a fighting chance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm but
>>>>>>>>>not bitter cold either. This afternoon and evening
>>>>>>>>>had some serious gusts blowing through - had my
>>>>>>>>>downdraft flap on the stove rattling wildly. That
>>>>>>>>>is really a hoot and took me quite some time to
>>>>>>>>>figure out what exactly I was hearing. When I am
>>>>>>>>>upstairs, I know what it
>>>>>>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles through
>>>>>>>>> the oven. But when in the basement ... it
>>>>>>>>> sounds exactly like someone is knocking
>>>>>>>>> ferociously on the door (the exterior flap is
>>>>>>>>> only a few feet north and at ceiling level of
>>>>>>>>> the wall the treadmill is on. A few weeks ago I
>>>>>>>>> kept running up and down stairs, thinking
>>>>>>>>> someone was playing games with me. I was rather
>>>>>>>>> slow in solving the mystery. <G>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl was
>>>>>>>>>asking me this morning for excercise advice? LOL!
>>>>>>>>>Who woulda ever thought! She has bought herself an
>>>>>>>>>eliptical machine, finally got it up and running
>>>>>>>>>last week and wanted some advise on how long she
>>>>>>>>>should be using it and how often. She is being
>>>>>>>>>incredibly hard on herself because she is only
>>>>>>>>>going 20 minutes on alternating days. I told her
>>>>>>>>>she really needed to remember that she is also
>>>>>>>>>dealing with 2 small children and their schedules,
>>>>>>>>>just gave birth 2 months ago (and is already back
>>>>>>>>>to her pre-pregnancy weight), and starting an
>>>>>>>>>exercise routine for the first time in many years.
>>>>>>>>>Start slow, work up - my advise in a nutshell.
>>>>>>>>>We're currently trying to figure out how to tunnel
>>>>>>>>>under the street and connect the two basements ...
>>>>>>>>>could have one heck of a gym set up. <G>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle is
>>>>>>>>>>a pretty good walking town if you like HILLS!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in the
>>>>>>>>>>mountains I don't know what they reached. But it
>>>>>>>>>>was mind-blowingly perfect UP there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I figure
>>>>>>>>>>out how (G)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at hovering,
>>>>>>>>>>>aren't I? <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>it? Wonder why I didn't think of it before. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>Really, I usually don't as the traffic is very
>>>>>>>>>>>heavy in this area
>>>>>>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy
>>>>>>>>>>> drivers. But I knew I could use the back
>>>>>>>>>>> entrance and only have to cross on street to
>>>>>>>>>>> get to the park, then it was quiet and
>>>>>>>>>>> peaceful. Hub and I will usually walk this
>>>>>>>>>>> route when we go to the bread outlet store -
>>>>>>>>>>> but having to cross the major roads does not
>>>>>>>>>>> enthuse me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ... was
>>>>>>>>>>>45F when I was out this morning. But it felt like
>>>>>>>>>>>a heat wave compared to those 30's. I think they
>>>>>>>>>>>are talking similar temps all week long, but I
>>>>>>>>>>>also believe they have no rain in the forecast.
>>>>>>>>>>>THAT's nice for a change.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even if
>>>>>>>>>>>>it was an upward hover somewhere along the line
>>>>>>>>>>>>(G)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>truly amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>60F+ and today and closer to 70F tomorrow (when
>>>>>>>>>>>>I hope to ski or, at least, hike)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>me ... down, down, down all week long ... up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>today for weigh in. Isn't that the way life
>>>>>>>>>>>>>always goes? <G> No biggie, todays weight still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>showed me a 1.3 loss from last week and really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>did not surprise me at all as I had a very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>salty meal last nite which had me drinking mega
>>>>>>>>>>>>>quantities ... and not running to the potty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>><G> I'll enjoy knowing that during the week I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>DID see lower numbers and will not allow myself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to get worked up over this. I AM MAINTAINING,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and quite nicely I feel. So the official Friday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>numbers are .......................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total
>>>>>>>>>>>>>loss to date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>... which for most probably isn't a big deal,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>but it made me feel good. Last night hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>noticed I had driven a huge screw into the rear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>tire of one of our vehicles, of course the one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>that sonny boy needs to borrow to head up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the old college campus and retrieve the last of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>his possessions. He made an appointment at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>local repair place to have it fixed today,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>called and told me that SIL was not working ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>call and have him pick me up. Wellllll, I drove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the car in, set everything up and thought,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>geeeeeesh, I'm only a few blocks from home, can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>walk straight through the park, dodging the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>geese ... and it IS somewhat of a nice day out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>... why call? I'll probably make it home faster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>if I walk. So picked my little legs up and off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I went. I have no idea how fast I walked, hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to judge without that lcd monitor in front of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>me <G>, but I was home in less than 7 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>And I felt terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
>>>>>>>>>>>>>current weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
It's amazing to me also, right up there with the concept of
pushing a button when inside my home and having my car
start up. No, I don't have this but it still amazes me that
it is possible. I often wonder what the future will hold in
store for my kids ... what will be totally new to them and
foreign to us.

Those visuals were a bit touristy to me, but I think the
talking and explanations bothered me more. It wasn't very
peppy, kind of mundane. I'm sure it appeals to a lot of
people, but it just doesn't get me excited. At least not
enough to have to pay $10/month for the option. The
treadmill workouts that I use are free.

I know they say progress is a good thing, I'm just not so
sure as to how far we really should - or need to - go.
Somethings I just shake my head at and laugh. Of course, hub
does the same over my now computerized treadmill. Guess it's
one of those *to each their own* things.

Joyce

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:17:25 -0700, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I guess I still find that pretty amazing. The control of
>the treadmill over the internet. And it sounds as if it
>works by making things more interesting and possibly
>challenging.
>
>I might like the visuals but maybe too touristy.
>
>We ARE living in the just pre-jetson's era and it gets
>closer daily. Good? Bad? or just plain INTERESTING?
>
>On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 02:05:38 -0500, Joyce
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>It really is pretty neat, but not flawless. The signal
>>that is sent from the computer to the treadmill happens
>>very quickly - so sometimes is *missed* and the treadmill
>>does not adjust to the new speed/incline. And twice now it
>>has misread the signal and boosted me to mega-speeds
>>(which is always interesting). But ... these workouts are
>>shown on the computer screen with the speed and incline in
>>large print - so I can manually adjust very easily. I am
>>finding they are much better workouts than I was doing on
>>my own, and the time seems to pass so much more quickly
>>(probably because of the constantly changing
>>speed/inclines). I've also found that I've quickly become
>>addicted ... I can't seem to stay away from the treadmill
>>now. Not sure if that is a good thing or not. <g>
>>
>>I've looked at a few of their scenic workouts, not really
>>for *me*. I thought it would be just like trekking through
>>the mountains, which would be fun. Nope. It appears more
>>to be someone that has taken video shots of the scenery,
>>stairs, sky, whatever - and explains what you are viewing.
>>
>>My brother and I were talking when we were setting up the
>>treadmill - he said it reminded him of the old jetson's
>>cartoons ... when he was on a similar thing running with
>>the dog. Who would have thought. <g>
>>
>>Joyce
>>
>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:00:25 -0700, Fred
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Sheesh, hooked up a treadmill to an interactive internet
>>>site. Remote control of your aerobic workout. Reminds me
>>>of "The Outer Limits - we are in control of the
>>>horizontal, we are in control of the vertical, we will
>>>run your butt off!"
>>>
>>>I see they only use IE. Ah, they have a Half Dome -
>>>Yosemite workout. I've been up there. It would be
>>>wonderfully scenic.
>>>
>>>So, what - you hook up the treadmill to a usb port?
>>>
>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:55:13 -0500, Joyce
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>LOL! Probably no chance on the running - interval
>>>>chasing maybe, but no official running. I did the
>>>>interval thing today and the time did seem to go by so
>>>>much faster. Tomorrow I'm going to try hooking up the
>>>>treadmill to the internet website (www.ifit.com) and do
>>>>one of their pre-programmed workouts. It automatically
>>>>raises and lowers the speed and incline - will be fun to
>>>>see how it works. I now can do this since I have semi-
>>>>wireless internet capability. woohoo!!! They also have
>>>>scenic things you can hike to - will try the 30 day free
>>>>trial to see if I like it well enough to pay $10/month.
>>>>Ahhhhhhhh, new toys are fun. <g>
>>>>
>>>>Joyce
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:46:23 -0700, Fred
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I've also read about interval training. I know folks
>>>>>swear by it for bicycling, too. It does get the body in
>>>>>better fashion to react to different things supposedly.
>>>>>So keep it up - I guess it also made your session seem
>>>>>faster. Keep it up. Soon you will be running outdoors,
>>>>>through that park you mentioned (G)
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:26:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a great
>>>>>>start. I seem to do fine those first 15 minutes or so,
>>>>>>then I start looking at the clock and time tends to
>>>>>>drag. I convince myself to just go one more *lap* (1/4
>>>>>>mile on the lcd) or a few more minutes, then if I want
>>>>>>to quit I can ... of course, that leads to more deals
>>>>>>with myself. Most of the time I do make the 40-45
>>>>>>minutes, sometimes I do quit after 35 minutes.
>>>>>>Afternoons I usually only make about 25 minutes, as I
>>>>>>have to get back upstairs and get back to dinner prep.
>>>>>>Today I did something different and it did seem to
>>>>>>make the time go a bit faster. I have been reading
>>>>>>many different articles on interval training, I really
>>>>>>have no clue as to whether this is good or bad - but
>>>>>>so far everything I've read has been positive. The
>>>>>>most recent article I saw said something about how
>>>>>>calories burned with the same daily routine will
>>>>>>eventually be less, as the body becomes used to the
>>>>>>routine - interval training will keep the body working
>>>>>>and burning. So ... I started with my first 15 minutes
>>>>>>at the higher speed, dropped and did 2 minutes at a
>>>>>>lower speed ... 3 minutes at high speed again, 1
>>>>>>minute low, 3 min high, 1 min low, etc. Unbelievable
>>>>>>how quickly the time did go by - maybe because I was
>>>>>>focusing more on the shorter lengths of time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hitting that speed button was interesting, and a bit
>>>>>>frightening at the moment. You would think I would
>>>>>>have learned the lesson after the first time. Nope,
>>>>>>not me - did the exact same thing again today ... with
>>>>>>the same results. <sigh> I am getting rather good at
>>>>>>being able to lift myself quickly on the support bars
>>>>>>(guess I have also become a tad stronger - lol). While
>>>>>>I can walk comfortably at an 8% incline level - I can
>>>>>>NOT walk at 8MPH!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred
>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, that's my main problem with most exercise
>>>>>>>equipment - the boredom factor indoors. I've been
>>>>>>>trying to get to the exercise equipemtn at work in
>>>>>>>the mid-morning but only 15 minutes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would like to have seen the speed button mistake
>>>>>>>(G) I did that the other day on the elliptical - I
>>>>>>>ran it backwards too suddenly and too much
>>>>>>>resistance. The elliptical with mild resistance is
>>>>>>>not bad - same as treadmill, I guess. I only have a
>>>>>>>nordic track here at home - a dust catcher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried an
>>>>>>>>eliptical machine once, several years ago. I had
>>>>>>>>problems with it, again the knee thing - just wasn't
>>>>>>>>for me, I knew it wasn't something I could or would
>>>>>>>>stick to for long. I don't mind the exercycles, hubs
>>>>>>>>new one seems rather nice but I honestly haven't
>>>>>>>>used it more than a very few short minutes. The key
>>>>>>>>to me for lowering the knee stress was to find the
>>>>>>>>correct spot for the seat ... which was not easy.
>>>>>>>>Too far away or too close, and the knees screamed at
>>>>>>>>me. I think that is why I probably don't get on it
>>>>>>>>now, then hub would have to constantly move that
>>>>>>>>seat back and forth. They need to incorporate a
>>>>>>>>motorized seat control, like they do in automobiles
>>>>>>>>- would be so much easier when having multiple
>>>>>>>>users. The treadmill was the perfect answer ... for
>>>>>>>>me. I love walking, it's relatively pain free if I
>>>>>>>>don't do stupid stuff (like hitting the increase
>>>>>>>>speed button instead of the increase incline - THAT
>>>>>>>>result was rather interesting this morning ... as
>>>>>>>>well as producing a bit of panic). It can be rather
>>>>>>>>boring though, so I have to find something to keep
>>>>>>>>me somewhat occupied while I'm on it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking to
>>>>>>>>>the U-district (Univ of Washingon is about a mile
>>>>>>>>>east) requires crossing I-5 which is an assault on
>>>>>>>>>the senses as well as walking along busy streets.
>>>>>>>>>And crossing north-south is restricted to keep the
>>>>>>>>>east-west flow of cars unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile
>>>>>>>>>loop around the lake is actually traffic light free
>>>>>>>>>and pretty low-key except at rush hour.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll. I'm
>>>>>>>>>trying to decide about the elliptical trainer at
>>>>>>>>>work as opposed to the treadmill. As I found a
>>>>>>>>>number of years ago with PROGRAMMED exercise bikes,
>>>>>>>>>the resistance is not as natural as real biking,
>>>>>>>>>even up steep hills. They seem to put more pressure
>>>>>>>>>on the knee that I get in real life on some very
>>>>>>>>>steep rides. Same seems to be true for the
>>>>>>>>>elliptical and my knees do not like it. I think the
>>>>>>>>>treadmill may be more to my liking, well, to my
>>>>>>>>>knees' liking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F was
>>>>>>>>>a new record high for the date. But CLOUDY right
>>>>>>>>>now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I don't
>>>>>>>>>>like doing so amid heavy traffic and nutsy
>>>>>>>>>>drivers. Our locale does have sidewalks, but even
>>>>>>>>>>crossing the streets you take your life into your
>>>>>>>>>>own hands. It never ceases to amaze me just how
>>>>>>>>>>unconscious and incondsiderate drivers are around
>>>>>>>>>>here. My house sits in a very quiet neighborhood,
>>>>>>>>>>and is relatively traffic free - other than those
>>>>>>>>>>goofballs that have to drive through in a hurry to
>>>>>>>>>>avoid traffic lights. The problem begins if I
>>>>>>>>>>travel 1/2 a block to the west, 2 blocks to the
>>>>>>>>>>east, or 3 blocks to the north ... all major
>>>>>>>>>>runways - two of which are considered state
>>>>>>>>>>highways. I just need to remember to cross at the
>>>>>>>>>>stoplight, which is out of my way if heading to
>>>>>>>>>>the store. It at least gives me a fighting chance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm but
>>>>>>>>>>not bitter cold either. This afternoon and evening
>>>>>>>>>>had some serious gusts blowing through - had my
>>>>>>>>>>downdraft flap on the stove rattling wildly. That
>>>>>>>>>>is really a hoot and took me quite some time to
>>>>>>>>>>figure out what exactly I was hearing. When I am
>>>>>>>>>>upstairs, I know what it
>>>>>>>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles through
>>>>>>>>>> the oven. But when in the basement ... it
>>>>>>>>>> sounds exactly like someone is knocking
>>>>>>>>>> ferociously on the door (the exterior flap is
>>>>>>>>>> only a few feet north and at ceiling level of
>>>>>>>>>> the wall the treadmill is on. A few weeks ago
>>>>>>>>>> I kept running up and down stairs, thinking
>>>>>>>>>> someone was playing games with me. I was
>>>>>>>>>> rather slow in solving the mystery. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl was
>>>>>>>>>>asking me this morning for excercise advice? LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>Who woulda ever thought! She has bought herself an
>>>>>>>>>>eliptical machine, finally got it up and running
>>>>>>>>>>last week and wanted some advise on how long she
>>>>>>>>>>should be using it and how often. She is being
>>>>>>>>>>incredibly hard on herself because she is only
>>>>>>>>>>going 20 minutes on alternating days. I told her
>>>>>>>>>>she really needed to remember that she is also
>>>>>>>>>>dealing with 2 small children and their schedules,
>>>>>>>>>>just gave birth 2 months ago (and is already back
>>>>>>>>>>to her pre-pregnancy weight), and starting an
>>>>>>>>>>exercise routine for the first time in many years.
>>>>>>>>>>Start slow, work up - my advise in a nutshell.
>>>>>>>>>>We're currently trying to figure out how to tunnel
>>>>>>>>>>under the street and connect the two basements ...
>>>>>>>>>>could have one heck of a gym set up. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle is
>>>>>>>>>>>a pretty good walking town if you like HILLS!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in the
>>>>>>>>>>>mountains I don't know what they reached. But it
>>>>>>>>>>>was mind-blowingly perfect UP there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I figure
>>>>>>>>>>>out how (G)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at hovering,
>>>>>>>>>>>>aren't I? <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>it? Wonder why I didn't think of it before. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Really, I usually don't as the traffic is very
>>>>>>>>>>>>heavy in this area
>>>>>>>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy
>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers. But I knew I could use the back
>>>>>>>>>>>> entrance and only have to cross on street to
>>>>>>>>>>>> get to the park, then it was quiet and
>>>>>>>>>>>> peaceful. Hub and I will usually walk this
>>>>>>>>>>>> route when we go to the bread outlet store -
>>>>>>>>>>>> but having to cross the major roads does not
>>>>>>>>>>>> enthuse me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ... was
>>>>>>>>>>>>45F when I was out this morning. But it felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>like a heat wave compared to those 30's. I think
>>>>>>>>>>>>they are talking similar temps all week long,
>>>>>>>>>>>>but I also believe they have no rain in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>forecast. THAT's nice for a change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>it was an upward hover somewhere along the line
>>>>>>>>>>>>>(G)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>truly amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>60F+ and today and closer to 70F tomorrow (when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I hope to ski or, at least, hike)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for me ... down, down, down all week long ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>up today for weigh in. Isn't that the way life
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>always goes? <G> No biggie, todays weight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>still showed me a 1.3 loss from last week and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>really did not surprise me at all as I had a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>very salty meal last nite which had me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drinking mega quantities ... and not running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the potty. <G> I'll enjoy knowing that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>during the week I DID see lower numbers and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>will not allow myself to get worked up over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite nicely I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>feel. So the official Friday numbers are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.......................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>loss to date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... which for most probably isn't a big deal,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but it made me feel good. Last night hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>noticed I had driven a huge screw into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rear tire of one of our vehicles, of course
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the one that sonny boy needs to borrow to head
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>up to the old college campus and retrieve the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last of his possessions. He made an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>appointment at the local repair place to have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it fixed today, called and told me that SIL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was not working ... call and have him pick me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>up. Wellllll, I drove the car in, set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything up and thought, geeeeeesh, I'm only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a few blocks from home, can walk straight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>through the park, dodging the geese ... and it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IS somewhat of a nice day out ... why call?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'll probably make it home faster if I walk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So picked my little legs up and off I went. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have no idea how fast I walked, hard to judge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>without that lcd monitor in front of me <G>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but I was home in less than 7 minutes. And I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>felt terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>current weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
Well, technology almost bit us at work today. Windows threw
up an error box saying a file was not saved and data was
probably lost. I cannot explain the circumstances other than
to say - it could have been a real problem. The old
fashioned way of data storage was much less prone to MS
erroring out on us!!!!!!

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:04:48 -0500, Joyce
<[email protected]> wrote:

>It's amazing to me also, right up there with the concept of
>pushing a button when inside my home and having my car
>start up. No, I don't have this but it still amazes me that
>it is possible. I often wonder what the future will hold in
>store for my kids ... what will be totally new to them and
>foreign to us.
>
>Those visuals were a bit touristy to me, but I think the
>talking and explanations bothered me more. It wasn't very
>peppy, kind of mundane. I'm sure it appeals to a lot of
>people, but it just doesn't get me excited. At least not
>enough to have to pay $10/month for the option. The
>treadmill workouts that I use are free.
>
>I know they say progress is a good thing, I'm just not so
>sure as to how far we really should - or need to - go.
>Somethings I just shake my head at and laugh. Of course,
>hub does the same over my now computerized treadmill. Guess
>it's one of those *to each their own* things.
>
>Joyce
>
>On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:17:25 -0700, Fred
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I guess I still find that pretty amazing. The control of
>>the treadmill over the internet. And it sounds as if it
>>works by making things more interesting and possibly
>>challenging.
>>
>>I might like the visuals but maybe too touristy.
>>
>>We ARE living in the just pre-jetson's era and it gets
>>closer daily. Good? Bad? or just plain INTERESTING?
>>
>>On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 02:05:38 -0500, Joyce
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>It really is pretty neat, but not flawless. The signal
>>>that is sent from the computer to the treadmill happens
>>>very quickly - so sometimes is *missed* and the treadmill
>>>does not adjust to the new speed/incline. And twice now
>>>it has misread the signal and boosted me to mega-speeds
>>>(which is always interesting). But ... these workouts are
>>>shown on the computer screen with the speed and incline
>>>in large print - so I can manually adjust very easily. I
>>>am finding they are much better workouts than I was doing
>>>on my own, and the time seems to pass so much more
>>>quickly (probably because of the constantly changing
>>>speed/inclines). I've also found that I've quickly become
>>>addicted ... I can't seem to stay away from the treadmill
>>>now. Not sure if that is a good thing or not. <g>
>>>
>>>I've looked at a few of their scenic workouts, not really
>>>for *me*. I thought it would be just like trekking
>>>through the mountains, which would be fun. Nope. It
>>>appears more to be someone that has taken video shots of
>>>the scenery, stairs, sky, whatever - and explains what
>>>you are viewing.
>>>
>>>My brother and I were talking when we were setting up the
>>>treadmill - he said it reminded him of the old jetson's
>>>cartoons ... when he was on a similar thing running with
>>>the dog. Who would have thought. <g>
>>>
>>>Joyce
>>>
>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:00:25 -0700, Fred
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sheesh, hooked up a treadmill to an interactive internet
>>>>site. Remote control of your aerobic workout. Reminds me
>>>>of "The Outer Limits - we are in control of the
>>>>horizontal, we are in control of the vertical, we will
>>>>run your butt off!"
>>>>
>>>>I see they only use IE. Ah, they have a Half Dome -
>>>>Yosemite workout. I've been up there. It would be
>>>>wonderfully scenic.
>>>>
>>>>So, what - you hook up the treadmill to a usb port?
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:55:13 -0500, Joyce
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>LOL! Probably no chance on the running - interval
>>>>>chasing maybe, but no official running. I did the
>>>>>interval thing today and the time did seem to go by so
>>>>>much faster. Tomorrow I'm going to try hooking up the
>>>>>treadmill to the internet website (www.ifit.com) and do
>>>>>one of their pre-programmed workouts. It automatically
>>>>>raises and lowers the speed and incline - will be fun
>>>>>to see how it works. I now can do this since I have semi-
>>>>>wireless internet capability. woohoo!!! They also have
>>>>>scenic things you can hike to - will try the 30 day
>>>>>free trial to see if I like it well enough to pay
>>>>>$10/month. Ahhhhhhhh, new toys are fun. <g>
>>>>>
>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:46:23 -0700, Fred
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I've also read about interval training. I know folks
>>>>>>swear by it for bicycling, too. It does get the body
>>>>>>in better fashion to react to different things
>>>>>>supposedly. So keep it up - I guess it also made your
>>>>>>session seem faster. Keep it up. Soon you will be
>>>>>>running outdoors, through that park you mentioned (G)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:26:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a great
>>>>>>>start. I seem to do fine those first 15 minutes or
>>>>>>>so, then I start looking at the clock and time tends
>>>>>>>to drag. I convince myself to just go one more *lap*
>>>>>>>(1/4 mile on the lcd) or a few more minutes, then if
>>>>>>>I want to quit I can ... of course, that leads to
>>>>>>>more deals with myself. Most of the time I do make
>>>>>>>the 40-45 minutes, sometimes I do quit after 35
>>>>>>>minutes. Afternoons I usually only make about 25
>>>>>>>minutes, as I have to get back upstairs and get back
>>>>>>>to dinner prep. Today I did something different and
>>>>>>>it did seem to make the time go a bit faster. I have
>>>>>>>been reading many different articles on interval
>>>>>>>training, I really have no clue as to whether this is
>>>>>>>good or bad - but so far everything I've read has
>>>>>>>been positive. The most recent article I saw said
>>>>>>>something about how calories burned with the same
>>>>>>>daily routine will eventually be less, as the body
>>>>>>>becomes used to the routine - interval training will
>>>>>>>keep the body working and burning. So ... I started
>>>>>>>with my first 15 minutes at the higher speed, dropped
>>>>>>>and did 2 minutes at a lower speed ... 3 minutes at
>>>>>>>high speed again, 1 minute low, 3 min high, 1 min
>>>>>>>low, etc. Unbelievable how quickly the time did go by
>>>>>>>- maybe because I was focusing more on the shorter
>>>>>>>lengths of time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hitting that speed button was interesting, and a bit
>>>>>>>frightening at the moment. You would think I would
>>>>>>>have learned the lesson after the first time. Nope,
>>>>>>>not me - did the exact same thing again today ...
>>>>>>>with the same results. <sigh> I am getting rather
>>>>>>>good at being able to lift myself quickly on the
>>>>>>>support bars (guess I have also become a tad stronger
>>>>>>>- lol). While I can walk comfortably at an 8% incline
>>>>>>>level - I can NOT walk at 8MPH!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred
>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well, that's my main problem with most exercise
>>>>>>>>equipment - the boredom factor indoors. I've been
>>>>>>>>trying to get to the exercise equipemtn at work in
>>>>>>>>the mid-morning but only 15 minutes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I would like to have seen the speed button mistake
>>>>>>>>(G) I did that the other day on the elliptical - I
>>>>>>>>ran it backwards too suddenly and too much
>>>>>>>>resistance. The elliptical with mild resistance is
>>>>>>>>not bad - same as treadmill, I guess. I only have a
>>>>>>>>nordic track here at home - a dust catcher
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried an
>>>>>>>>>eliptical machine once, several years ago. I had
>>>>>>>>>problems with it, again the knee thing - just
>>>>>>>>>wasn't for me, I knew it wasn't something I could
>>>>>>>>>or would stick to for long. I don't mind the
>>>>>>>>>exercycles, hubs new one seems rather nice but I
>>>>>>>>>honestly haven't used it more than a very few short
>>>>>>>>>minutes. The key to me for lowering the knee stress
>>>>>>>>>was to find the correct spot for the seat ... which
>>>>>>>>>was not easy. Too far away or too close, and the
>>>>>>>>>knees screamed at me. I think that is why I
>>>>>>>>>probably don't get on it now, then hub would have
>>>>>>>>>to constantly move that seat back and forth. They
>>>>>>>>>need to incorporate a motorized seat control, like
>>>>>>>>>they do in automobiles - would be so much easier
>>>>>>>>>when having multiple users. The treadmill was the
>>>>>>>>>perfect answer ... for me. I love walking, it's
>>>>>>>>>relatively pain free if I don't do stupid stuff
>>>>>>>>>(like hitting the increase speed button instead of
>>>>>>>>>the increase incline - THAT result was rather
>>>>>>>>>interesting this morning ... as well as producing a
>>>>>>>>>bit of panic). It can be rather boring though, so I
>>>>>>>>>have to find something to keep me somewhat occupied
>>>>>>>>>while I'm on it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking
>>>>>>>>>>to the U-district (Univ of Washingon is about a
>>>>>>>>>>mile east) requires crossing I-5 which is an
>>>>>>>>>>assault on the senses as well as walking along
>>>>>>>>>>busy streets. And crossing north-south is
>>>>>>>>>>restricted to keep the east-west flow of cars
>>>>>>>>>>unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile loop around the lake is
>>>>>>>>>>actually traffic light free and pretty low-key
>>>>>>>>>>except at rush hour.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>trying to decide about the elliptical trainer at
>>>>>>>>>>work as opposed to the treadmill. As I found a
>>>>>>>>>>number of years ago with PROGRAMMED exercise
>>>>>>>>>>bikes, the resistance is not as natural as real
>>>>>>>>>>biking, even up steep hills. They seem to put more
>>>>>>>>>>pressure on the knee that I get in real life on
>>>>>>>>>>some very steep rides. Same seems to be true for
>>>>>>>>>>the elliptical and my knees do not like it. I
>>>>>>>>>>think the treadmill may be more to my liking,
>>>>>>>>>>well, to my knees' liking.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F was
>>>>>>>>>>a new record high for the date. But CLOUDY right
>>>>>>>>>>now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I
>>>>>>>>>>>don't like doing so amid heavy traffic and nutsy
>>>>>>>>>>>drivers. Our locale does have sidewalks, but even
>>>>>>>>>>>crossing the streets you take your life into your
>>>>>>>>>>>own hands. It never ceases to amaze me just how
>>>>>>>>>>>unconscious and incondsiderate drivers are around
>>>>>>>>>>>here. My house sits in a very quiet neighborhood,
>>>>>>>>>>>and is relatively traffic free - other than those
>>>>>>>>>>>goofballs that have to drive through in a hurry
>>>>>>>>>>>to avoid traffic lights. The problem begins if I
>>>>>>>>>>>travel 1/2 a block to the west, 2 blocks to the
>>>>>>>>>>>east, or 3 blocks to the north ... all major
>>>>>>>>>>>runways - two of which are considered state
>>>>>>>>>>>highways. I just need to remember to cross at the
>>>>>>>>>>>stoplight, which is out of my way if heading to
>>>>>>>>>>>the store. It at least gives me a fighting
>>>>>>>>>>>chance.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm but
>>>>>>>>>>>not bitter cold either. This afternoon and
>>>>>>>>>>>evening had some serious gusts blowing through -
>>>>>>>>>>>had my downdraft flap on the stove rattling
>>>>>>>>>>>wildly. That is really a hoot and took me quite
>>>>>>>>>>>some time to figure out what exactly I was
>>>>>>>>>>>hearing. When I am upstairs, I know what it
>>>>>>>>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles
>>>>>>>>>>> through the oven. But when in the basement
>>>>>>>>>>> ... it sounds exactly like someone is
>>>>>>>>>>> knocking ferociously on the door (the
>>>>>>>>>>> exterior flap is only a few feet north and at
>>>>>>>>>>> ceiling level of the wall the treadmill is
>>>>>>>>>>> on. A few weeks ago I kept running up and
>>>>>>>>>>> down stairs, thinking someone was playing
>>>>>>>>>>> games with me. I was rather slow in solving
>>>>>>>>>>> the mystery. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl was
>>>>>>>>>>>asking me this morning for excercise advice? LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>Who woulda ever thought! She has bought herself
>>>>>>>>>>>an eliptical machine, finally got it up and
>>>>>>>>>>>running last week and wanted some advise on how
>>>>>>>>>>>long she should be using it and how often. She is
>>>>>>>>>>>being incredibly hard on herself because she is
>>>>>>>>>>>only going 20 minutes on alternating days. I told
>>>>>>>>>>>her she really needed to remember that she is
>>>>>>>>>>>also dealing with 2 small children and their
>>>>>>>>>>>schedules, just gave birth 2 months ago (and is
>>>>>>>>>>>already back to her pre-pregnancy weight), and
>>>>>>>>>>>starting an exercise routine for the first time
>>>>>>>>>>>in many years. Start slow, work up - my advise in
>>>>>>>>>>>a nutshell. We're currently trying to figure out
>>>>>>>>>>>how to tunnel under the street and connect the
>>>>>>>>>>>two basements ... could have one heck of a gym
>>>>>>>>>>>set up. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle
>>>>>>>>>>>>is a pretty good walking town if you like HILLS!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>mountains I don't know what they reached. But it
>>>>>>>>>>>>was mind-blowingly perfect UP there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I figure
>>>>>>>>>>>>out how (G)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>hovering, aren't I? <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>it? Wonder why I didn't think of it before. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Really, I usually don't as the traffic is very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>heavy in this area
>>>>>>>>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers. But I knew I could use the back
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entrance and only have to cross on street to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get to the park, then it was quiet and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> peaceful. Hub and I will usually walk this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> route when we go to the bread outlet store -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but having to cross the major roads does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enthuse me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>was 45F when I was out this morning. But it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>felt like a heat wave compared to those 30's. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>think they are talking similar temps all week
>>>>>>>>>>>>>long, but I also believe they have no rain in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the forecast. THAT's nice for a change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it was an upward hover somewhere along the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>line (G)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>truly amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>60F+ and today and closer to 70F tomorrow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(when I hope to ski or, at least, hike)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for me ... down, down, down all week long ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>up today for weigh in. Isn't that the way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>life always goes? <G> No biggie, todays
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>weight still showed me a 1.3 loss from last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>week and really did not surprise me at all as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I had a very salty meal last nite which had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me drinking mega quantities ... and not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>running to the potty. <G> I'll enjoy knowing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that during the week I DID see lower numbers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and will not allow myself to get worked up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>over this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite nicely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I feel. So the official Friday numbers are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.......................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>loss to date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... which for most probably isn't a big deal,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but it made me feel good. Last night hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>noticed I had driven a huge screw into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rear tire of one of our vehicles, of course
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the one that sonny boy needs to borrow to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>head up to the old college campus and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>retrieve the last of his possessions. He made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>an appointment at the local repair place to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have it fixed today, called and told me that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SIL was not working ... call and have him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pick me up. Wellllll, I drove the car in, set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything up and thought, geeeeeesh, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>only a few blocks from home, can walk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>straight through the park, dodging the geese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... and it IS somewhat of a nice day out ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>why call? I'll probably make it home faster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if I walk. So picked my little legs up and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>off I went. I have no idea how fast I walked,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hard to judge without that lcd monitor in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>front of me <G>, but I was home in less than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>7 minutes. And I felt terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>current weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
Everything is dependent on computers these days, which
sometimes is NOT a good thing. I was in the grocery store a
while ago when the power went out. Registers could not be
used as the generator would only allow a few safety lights
to be powered. If they ran the registers, the generator
would not run as long. The poor manager was going nuts
trying to decide exactly what to do. And the electric
automatic doors we take for granted ... don't work with no
electricity ... and dang are they heavy to try to push!

I'm glad you didn't have a total disaster. Those error
message boxes can be rather frightening, even if they
are in error.

Joyce

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:05:07 -0700, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Well, technology almost bit us at work today. Windows threw
>up an error box saying a file was not saved and data was
>probably lost. I cannot explain the circumstances other
>than to say - it could have been a real problem. The old
>fashioned way of data storage was much less prone to MS
>erroring out on us!!!!!!
>
>On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:04:48 -0500, Joyce
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>It's amazing to me also, right up there with the concept
>>of pushing a button when inside my home and having my car
>>start up. No, I don't have this but it still amazes me
>>that it is possible. I often wonder what the future will
>>hold in store for my kids ... what will be totally new to
>>them and foreign to us.
>>
>>Those visuals were a bit touristy to me, but I think the
>>talking and explanations bothered me more. It wasn't very
>>peppy, kind of mundane. I'm sure it appeals to a lot of
>>people, but it just doesn't get me excited. At least not
>>enough to have to pay $10/month for the option. The
>>treadmill workouts that I use are free.
>>
>>I know they say progress is a good thing, I'm just not so
>>sure as to how far we really should - or need to - go.
>>Somethings I just shake my head at and laugh. Of course,
>>hub does the same over my now computerized treadmill.
>>Guess it's one of those *to each their own* things.
>>
>>Joyce
>>
>>On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:17:25 -0700, Fred
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I guess I still find that pretty amazing. The control of
>>>the treadmill over the internet. And it sounds as if it
>>>works by making things more interesting and possibly
>>>challenging.
>>>
>>>I might like the visuals but maybe too touristy.
>>>
>>>We ARE living in the just pre-jetson's era and it gets
>>>closer daily. Good? Bad? or just plain INTERESTING?
>>>
>>>On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 02:05:38 -0500, Joyce
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>It really is pretty neat, but not flawless. The signal
>>>>that is sent from the computer to the treadmill happens
>>>>very quickly - so sometimes is *missed* and the
>>>>treadmill does not adjust to the new speed/incline. And
>>>>twice now it has misread the signal and boosted me to
>>>>mega-speeds (which is always interesting). But ... these
>>>>workouts are shown on the computer screen with the speed
>>>>and incline in large print - so I can manually adjust
>>>>very easily. I am finding they are much better workouts
>>>>than I was doing on my own, and the time seems to pass
>>>>so much more quickly (probably because of the constantly
>>>>changing speed/inclines). I've also found that I've
>>>>quickly become addicted ... I can't seem to stay away
>>>>from the treadmill now. Not sure if that is a good thing
>>>>or not. <g>
>>>>
>>>>I've looked at a few of their scenic workouts, not
>>>>really for *me*. I thought it would be just like
>>>>trekking through the mountains, which would be fun.
>>>>Nope. It appears more to be someone that has taken video
>>>>shots of the scenery, stairs, sky, whatever - and
>>>>explains what you are viewing.
>>>>
>>>>My brother and I were talking when we were setting up
>>>>the treadmill - he said it reminded him of the old
>>>>jetson's cartoons ... when he was on a similar thing
>>>>running with the dog. Who would have thought. <g>
>>>>
>>>>Joyce
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:00:25 -0700, Fred
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Sheesh, hooked up a treadmill to an interactive
>>>>>internet site. Remote control of your aerobic workout.
>>>>>Reminds me of "The Outer Limits - we are in control of
>>>>>the horizontal, we are in control of the vertical, we
>>>>>will run your butt off!"
>>>>>
>>>>>I see they only use IE. Ah, they have a Half Dome -
>>>>>Yosemite workout. I've been up there. It would be
>>>>>wonderfully scenic.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, what - you hook up the treadmill to a usb port?
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:55:13 -0500, Joyce
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL! Probably no chance on the running - interval
>>>>>>chasing maybe, but no official running. I did the
>>>>>>interval thing today and the time did seem to go by so
>>>>>>much faster. Tomorrow I'm going to try hooking up the
>>>>>>treadmill to the internet website (www.ifit.com) and
>>>>>>do one of their pre-programmed workouts. It
>>>>>>automatically raises and lowers the speed and incline
>>>>>>- will be fun to see how it works. I now can do this
>>>>>>since I have semi-wireless internet capability.
>>>>>>woohoo!!! They also have scenic things you can hike to
>>>>>>- will try the 30 day free trial to see if I like it
>>>>>>well enough to pay $10/month. Ahhhhhhhh, new toys are
>>>>>>fun. <g>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:46:23 -0700, Fred
>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've also read about interval training. I know folks
>>>>>>>swear by it for bicycling, too. It does get the body
>>>>>>>in better fashion to react to different things
>>>>>>>supposedly. So keep it up - I guess it also made your
>>>>>>>session seem faster. Keep it up. Soon you will be
>>>>>>>running outdoors, through that park you mentioned (G)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:26:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a great
>>>>>>>>start. I seem to do fine those first 15 minutes or
>>>>>>>>so, then I start looking at the clock and time tends
>>>>>>>>to drag. I convince myself to just go one more *lap*
>>>>>>>>(1/4 mile on the lcd) or a few more minutes, then if
>>>>>>>>I want to quit I can ... of course, that leads to
>>>>>>>>more deals with myself. Most of the time I do make
>>>>>>>>the 40-45 minutes, sometimes I do quit after 35
>>>>>>>>minutes. Afternoons I usually only make about 25
>>>>>>>>minutes, as I have to get back upstairs and get back
>>>>>>>>to dinner prep. Today I did something different and
>>>>>>>>it did seem to make the time go a bit faster. I have
>>>>>>>>been reading many different articles on interval
>>>>>>>>training, I really have no clue as to whether this
>>>>>>>>is good or bad - but so far everything I've read has
>>>>>>>>been positive. The most recent article I saw said
>>>>>>>>something about how calories burned with the same
>>>>>>>>daily routine will eventually be less, as the body
>>>>>>>>becomes used to the routine - interval training will
>>>>>>>>keep the body working and burning. So ... I started
>>>>>>>>with my first 15 minutes at the higher speed,
>>>>>>>>dropped and did 2 minutes at a lower speed ... 3
>>>>>>>>minutes at high speed again, 1 minute low, 3 min
>>>>>>>>high, 1 min low, etc. Unbelievable how quickly the
>>>>>>>>time did go by - maybe because I was focusing more
>>>>>>>>on the shorter lengths of time?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hitting that speed button was interesting, and a bit
>>>>>>>>frightening at the moment. You would think I would
>>>>>>>>have learned the lesson after the first time. Nope,
>>>>>>>>not me - did the exact same thing again today ...
>>>>>>>>with the same results. <sigh> I am getting rather
>>>>>>>>good at being able to lift myself quickly on the
>>>>>>>>support bars (guess I have also become a tad
>>>>>>>>stronger - lol). While I can walk comfortably at an
>>>>>>>>8% incline level - I can NOT walk at 8MPH!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred
>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Well, that's my main problem with most exercise
>>>>>>>>>equipment - the boredom factor indoors. I've been
>>>>>>>>>trying to get to the exercise equipemtn at work in
>>>>>>>>>the mid-morning but only 15 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I would like to have seen the speed button mistake
>>>>>>>>>(G) I did that the other day on the elliptical - I
>>>>>>>>>ran it backwards too suddenly and too much
>>>>>>>>>resistance. The elliptical with mild resistance is
>>>>>>>>>not bad - same as treadmill, I guess. I only have a
>>>>>>>>>nordic track here at home - a dust catcher
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried an
>>>>>>>>>>eliptical machine once, several years ago. I had
>>>>>>>>>>problems with it, again the knee thing - just
>>>>>>>>>>wasn't for me, I knew it wasn't something I could
>>>>>>>>>>or would stick to for long. I don't mind the
>>>>>>>>>>exercycles, hubs new one seems rather nice but I
>>>>>>>>>>honestly haven't used it more than a very few
>>>>>>>>>>short minutes. The key to me for lowering the knee
>>>>>>>>>>stress was to find the correct spot for the seat
>>>>>>>>>>... which was not easy. Too far away or too close,
>>>>>>>>>>and the knees screamed at me. I think that is why
>>>>>>>>>>I probably don't get on it now, then hub would
>>>>>>>>>>have to constantly move that seat back and forth.
>>>>>>>>>>They need to incorporate a motorized seat control,
>>>>>>>>>>like they do in automobiles - would be so much
>>>>>>>>>>easier when having multiple users. The treadmill
>>>>>>>>>>was the perfect answer ... for me. I love walking,
>>>>>>>>>>it's relatively pain free if I don't do stupid
>>>>>>>>>>stuff (like hitting the increase speed button
>>>>>>>>>>instead of the increase incline - THAT result was
>>>>>>>>>>rather interesting this morning ... as well as
>>>>>>>>>>producing a bit of panic). It can be rather boring
>>>>>>>>>>though, so I have to find something to keep me
>>>>>>>>>>somewhat occupied while I'm on it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking
>>>>>>>>>>>to the U-district (Univ of Washingon is about a
>>>>>>>>>>>mile east) requires crossing I-5 which is an
>>>>>>>>>>>assault on the senses as well as walking along
>>>>>>>>>>>busy streets. And crossing north-south is
>>>>>>>>>>>restricted to keep the east-west flow of cars
>>>>>>>>>>>unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile loop around the lake is
>>>>>>>>>>>actually traffic light free and pretty low-key
>>>>>>>>>>>except at rush hour.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll.
>>>>>>>>>>>I'm trying to decide about the elliptical trainer
>>>>>>>>>>>at work as opposed to the treadmill. As I found a
>>>>>>>>>>>number of years ago with PROGRAMMED exercise
>>>>>>>>>>>bikes, the resistance is not as natural as real
>>>>>>>>>>>biking, even up steep hills. They seem to put
>>>>>>>>>>>more pressure on the knee that I get in real life
>>>>>>>>>>>on some very steep rides. Same seems to be true
>>>>>>>>>>>for the elliptical and my knees do not like it. I
>>>>>>>>>>>think the treadmill may be more to my liking,
>>>>>>>>>>>well, to my knees' liking.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F
>>>>>>>>>>>was a new record high for the date. But CLOUDY
>>>>>>>>>>>right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I
>>>>>>>>>>>>don't like doing so amid heavy traffic and nutsy
>>>>>>>>>>>>drivers. Our locale does have sidewalks, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>even crossing the streets you take your life
>>>>>>>>>>>>into your own hands. It never ceases to amaze me
>>>>>>>>>>>>just how unconscious and incondsiderate drivers
>>>>>>>>>>>>are around here. My house sits in a very quiet
>>>>>>>>>>>>neighborhood, and is relatively traffic free -
>>>>>>>>>>>>other than those goofballs that have to drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>through in a hurry to avoid traffic lights. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>problem begins if I travel 1/2 a block to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>west, 2 blocks to the east, or 3 blocks to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>north ... all major runways - two of which are
>>>>>>>>>>>>considered state highways. I just need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>remember to cross at the stoplight, which is out
>>>>>>>>>>>>of my way if heading to the store. It at least
>>>>>>>>>>>>gives me a fighting chance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm
>>>>>>>>>>>>but not bitter cold either. This afternoon and
>>>>>>>>>>>>evening had some serious gusts blowing through -
>>>>>>>>>>>>had my downdraft flap on the stove rattling
>>>>>>>>>>>>wildly. That is really a hoot and took me quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>some time to figure out what exactly I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>hearing. When I am upstairs, I know what it
>>>>>>>>>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles
>>>>>>>>>>>> through the oven. But when in the basement
>>>>>>>>>>>> ... it sounds exactly like someone is
>>>>>>>>>>>> knocking ferociously on the door (the
>>>>>>>>>>>> exterior flap is only a few feet north and
>>>>>>>>>>>> at ceiling level of the wall the treadmill
>>>>>>>>>>>> is on. A few weeks ago I kept running up and
>>>>>>>>>>>> down stairs, thinking someone was playing
>>>>>>>>>>>> games with me. I was rather slow in solving
>>>>>>>>>>>> the mystery. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>was asking me this morning for excercise advice?
>>>>>>>>>>>>LOL! Who woulda ever thought! She has bought
>>>>>>>>>>>>herself an eliptical machine, finally got it up
>>>>>>>>>>>>and running last week and wanted some advise on
>>>>>>>>>>>>how long she should be using it and how often.
>>>>>>>>>>>>She is being incredibly hard on herself because
>>>>>>>>>>>>she is only going 20 minutes on alternating
>>>>>>>>>>>>days. I told her she really needed to remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>that she is also dealing with 2 small children
>>>>>>>>>>>>and their schedules, just gave birth 2 months
>>>>>>>>>>>>ago (and is already back to her pre-pregnancy
>>>>>>>>>>>>weight), and starting an exercise routine for
>>>>>>>>>>>>the first time in many years. Start slow, work
>>>>>>>>>>>>up - my advise in a nutshell. We're currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>trying to figure out how to tunnel under the
>>>>>>>>>>>>street and connect the two basements ... could
>>>>>>>>>>>>have one heck of a gym set up. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>is a pretty good walking town if you like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>HILLS!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>mountains I don't know what they reached. But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>it was mind-blowingly perfect UP there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>figure out how (G)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hovering, aren't I? <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing, isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it? Wonder why I didn't think of it before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><G> Really, I usually don't as the traffic is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>very heavy in this area
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the crazy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers. But I knew I could use the back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entrance and only have to cross on street to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get to the park, then it was quiet and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peaceful. Hub and I will usually walk this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> route when we go to the bread outlet store -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but having to cross the major roads does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enthuse me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was 45F when I was out this morning. But it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>felt like a heat wave compared to those 30's.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I think they are talking similar temps all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>week long, but I also believe they have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rain in the forecast. THAT's nice for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if it was an upward hover somewhere along the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>line (G)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>truly amazing (G) Spring is coming here, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>60F+ and today and closer to 70F tomorrow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(when I hope to ski or, at least, hike)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for me ... down, down, down all week long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... up today for weigh in. Isn't that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>way life always goes? <G> No biggie, todays
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>weight still showed me a 1.3 loss from last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>week and really did not surprise me at all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>as I had a very salty meal last nite which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>had me drinking mega quantities ... and not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>running to the potty. <G> I'll enjoy knowing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that during the week I DID see lower numbers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and will not allow myself to get worked up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>over this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nicely I feel. So the official Friday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>numbers are .......................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7 total
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>loss to date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... which for most probably isn't a big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>deal, but it made me feel good. Last night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hub noticed I had driven a huge screw into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the rear tire of one of our vehicles, of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>course the one that sonny boy needs to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>borrow to head up to the old college campus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and retrieve the last of his possessions. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>made an appointment at the local repair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>place to have it fixed today, called and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>told me that SIL was not working ... call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and have him pick me up. Wellllll, I drove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the car in, set everything up and thought,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>geeeeeesh, I'm only a few blocks from home,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>can walk straight through the park, dodging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the geese ... and it IS somewhat of a nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>day out ... why call? I'll probably make it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>home faster if I walk. So picked my little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>legs up and off I went. I have no idea how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fast I walked, hard to judge without that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lcd monitor in front of me <G>, but I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>home in less than 7 minutes. And I felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>current weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
Thanks for reminding me. We did a screen capture of the
error box and need to have it looked at on Monday by IS
staff!!!!!!!!!!!

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:32:06 -0500, Joyce
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Everything is dependent on computers these days, which
>sometimes is NOT a good thing. I was in the grocery store a
>while ago when the power went out. Registers could not be
>used as the generator would only allow a few safety lights
>to be powered. If they ran the registers, the generator
>would not run as long. The poor manager was going nuts
>trying to decide exactly what to do. And the electric
>automatic doors we take for granted ... don't work with no
>electricity ... and dang are they heavy to try to push!
>
>I'm glad you didn't have a total disaster. Those error
>message boxes can be rather frightening, even if they are
>in error.
>
>Joyce
>
>On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:05:07 -0700, Fred
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Well, technology almost bit us at work today. Windows
>>threw up an error box saying a file was not saved and data
>>was probably lost. I cannot explain the circumstances
>>other than to say - it could have been a real problem. The
>>old fashioned way of data storage was much less prone to
>>MS erroring out on us!!!!!!
>>
>>On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:04:48 -0500, Joyce
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>It's amazing to me also, right up there with the concept
>>>of pushing a button when inside my home and having my car
>>>start up. No, I don't have this but it still amazes me
>>>that it is possible. I often wonder what the future will
>>>hold in store for my kids ... what will be totally new to
>>>them and foreign to us.
>>>
>>>Those visuals were a bit touristy to me, but I think the
>>>talking and explanations bothered me more. It wasn't very
>>>peppy, kind of mundane. I'm sure it appeals to a lot of
>>>people, but it just doesn't get me excited. At least not
>>>enough to have to pay $10/month for the option. The
>>>treadmill workouts that I use are free.
>>>
>>>I know they say progress is a good thing, I'm just not so
>>>sure as to how far we really should - or need to - go.
>>>Somethings I just shake my head at and laugh. Of course,
>>>hub does the same over my now computerized treadmill.
>>>Guess it's one of those *to each their own* things.
>>>
>>>Joyce
>>>
>>>On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:17:25 -0700, Fred
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I guess I still find that pretty amazing. The control of
>>>>the treadmill over the internet. And it sounds as if it
>>>>works by making things more interesting and possibly
>>>>challenging.
>>>>
>>>>I might like the visuals but maybe too touristy.
>>>>
>>>>We ARE living in the just pre-jetson's era and it gets
>>>>closer daily. Good? Bad? or just plain INTERESTING?
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 02:05:38 -0500, Joyce
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It really is pretty neat, but not flawless. The signal
>>>>>that is sent from the computer to the treadmill happens
>>>>>very quickly - so sometimes is *missed* and the
>>>>>treadmill does not adjust to the new speed/incline. And
>>>>>twice now it has misread the signal and boosted me to
>>>>>mega-speeds (which is always interesting). But ...
>>>>>these workouts are shown on the computer screen with
>>>>>the speed and incline in large print - so I can
>>>>>manually adjust very easily. I am finding they are much
>>>>>better workouts than I was doing on my own, and the
>>>>>time seems to pass so much more quickly (probably
>>>>>because of the constantly changing speed/inclines).
>>>>>I've also found that I've quickly become addicted ... I
>>>>>can't seem to stay away from the treadmill now. Not
>>>>>sure if that is a good thing or not. <g>
>>>>>
>>>>>I've looked at a few of their scenic workouts, not
>>>>>really for *me*. I thought it would be just like
>>>>>trekking through the mountains, which would be fun.
>>>>>Nope. It appears more to be someone that has taken
>>>>>video shots of the scenery, stairs, sky, whatever - and
>>>>>explains what you are viewing.
>>>>>
>>>>>My brother and I were talking when we were setting up
>>>>>the treadmill - he said it reminded him of the old
>>>>>jetson's cartoons ... when he was on a similar thing
>>>>>running with the dog. Who would have thought. <g>
>>>>>
>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:00:25 -0700, Fred
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sheesh, hooked up a treadmill to an interactive
>>>>>>internet site. Remote control of your aerobic workout.
>>>>>>Reminds me of "The Outer Limits - we are in control of
>>>>>>the horizontal, we are in control of the vertical, we
>>>>>>will run your butt off!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I see they only use IE. Ah, they have a Half Dome -
>>>>>>Yosemite workout. I've been up there. It would be
>>>>>>wonderfully scenic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, what - you hook up the treadmill to a usb port?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:55:13 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>LOL! Probably no chance on the running - interval
>>>>>>>chasing maybe, but no official running. I did the
>>>>>>>interval thing today and the time did seem to go by
>>>>>>>so much faster. Tomorrow I'm going to try hooking up
>>>>>>>the treadmill to the internet website (www.ifit.com)
>>>>>>>and do one of their pre-programmed workouts. It
>>>>>>>automatically raises and lowers the speed and incline
>>>>>>>- will be fun to see how it works. I now can do this
>>>>>>>since I have semi-wireless internet capability.
>>>>>>>woohoo!!! They also have scenic things you can hike
>>>>>>>to - will try the 30 day free trial to see if I like
>>>>>>>it well enough to pay $10/month. Ahhhhhhhh, new toys
>>>>>>>are fun. <g>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:46:23 -0700, Fred
>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've also read about interval training. I know folks
>>>>>>>>swear by it for bicycling, too. It does get the body
>>>>>>>>in better fashion to react to different things
>>>>>>>>supposedly. So keep it up - I guess it also made
>>>>>>>>your session seem faster. Keep it up. Soon you will
>>>>>>>>be running outdoors, through that park you mentioned
>>>>>>>>(G)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:26:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a great
>>>>>>>>>start. I seem to do fine those first 15 minutes or
>>>>>>>>>so, then I start looking at the clock and time
>>>>>>>>>tends to drag. I convince myself to just go one
>>>>>>>>>more *lap* (1/4 mile on the lcd) or a few more
>>>>>>>>>minutes, then if I want to quit I can ... of
>>>>>>>>>course, that leads to more deals with myself. Most
>>>>>>>>>of the time I do make the 40-45 minutes, sometimes
>>>>>>>>>I do quit after 35 minutes. Afternoons I usually
>>>>>>>>>only make about 25 minutes, as I have to get back
>>>>>>>>>upstairs and get back to dinner prep. Today I did
>>>>>>>>>something different and it did seem to make the
>>>>>>>>>time go a bit faster. I have been reading many
>>>>>>>>>different articles on interval training, I really
>>>>>>>>>have no clue as to whether this is good or bad -
>>>>>>>>>but so far everything I've read has been positive.
>>>>>>>>>The most recent article I saw said something about
>>>>>>>>>how calories burned with the same daily routine
>>>>>>>>>will eventually be less, as the body becomes used
>>>>>>>>>to the routine - interval training will keep the
>>>>>>>>>body working and burning. So ... I started with my
>>>>>>>>>first 15 minutes at the higher speed, dropped and
>>>>>>>>>did 2 minutes at a lower speed ... 3 minutes at
>>>>>>>>>high speed again, 1 minute low, 3 min high, 1 min
>>>>>>>>>low, etc. Unbelievable how quickly the time did go
>>>>>>>>>by - maybe because I was focusing more on the
>>>>>>>>>shorter lengths of time?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hitting that speed button was interesting, and a
>>>>>>>>>bit frightening at the moment. You would think I
>>>>>>>>>would have learned the lesson after the first time.
>>>>>>>>>Nope, not me - did the exact same thing again today
>>>>>>>>>... with the same results. <sigh> I am getting
>>>>>>>>>rather good at being able to lift myself quickly on
>>>>>>>>>the support bars (guess I have also become a tad
>>>>>>>>>stronger - lol). While I can walk comfortably at an
>>>>>>>>>8% incline level - I can NOT walk at 8MPH!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred
>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Well, that's my main problem with most exercise
>>>>>>>>>>equipment - the boredom factor indoors. I've been
>>>>>>>>>>trying to get to the exercise equipemtn at work in
>>>>>>>>>>the mid-morning but only 15 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I would like to have seen the speed button mistake
>>>>>>>>>>(G) I did that the other day on the elliptical - I
>>>>>>>>>>ran it backwards too suddenly and too much
>>>>>>>>>>resistance. The elliptical with mild resistance is
>>>>>>>>>>not bad - same as treadmill, I guess. I only have
>>>>>>>>>>a nordic track here at home - a dust catcher
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried
>>>>>>>>>>>an eliptical machine once, several years ago. I
>>>>>>>>>>>had problems with it, again the knee thing - just
>>>>>>>>>>>wasn't for me, I knew it wasn't something I could
>>>>>>>>>>>or would stick to for long. I don't mind the
>>>>>>>>>>>exercycles, hubs new one seems rather nice but I
>>>>>>>>>>>honestly haven't used it more than a very few
>>>>>>>>>>>short minutes. The key to me for lowering the
>>>>>>>>>>>knee stress was to find the correct spot for the
>>>>>>>>>>>seat ... which was not easy. Too far away or too
>>>>>>>>>>>close, and the knees screamed at me. I think that
>>>>>>>>>>>is why I probably don't get on it now, then hub
>>>>>>>>>>>would have to constantly move that seat back and
>>>>>>>>>>>forth. They need to incorporate a motorized seat
>>>>>>>>>>>control, like they do in automobiles - would be
>>>>>>>>>>>so much easier when having multiple users. The
>>>>>>>>>>>treadmill was the perfect answer ... for me. I
>>>>>>>>>>>love walking, it's relatively pain free if I
>>>>>>>>>>>don't do stupid stuff (like hitting the increase
>>>>>>>>>>>speed button instead of the increase incline -
>>>>>>>>>>>THAT result was rather interesting this morning
>>>>>>>>>>>... as well as producing a bit of panic). It can
>>>>>>>>>>>be rather boring though, so I have to find
>>>>>>>>>>>something to keep me somewhat occupied while I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking
>>>>>>>>>>>>to the U-district (Univ of Washingon is about a
>>>>>>>>>>>>mile east) requires crossing I-5 which is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>assault on the senses as well as walking along
>>>>>>>>>>>>busy streets. And crossing north-south is
>>>>>>>>>>>>restricted to keep the east-west flow of cars
>>>>>>>>>>>>unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile loop around the lake
>>>>>>>>>>>>is actually traffic light free and pretty low-
>>>>>>>>>>>>key except at rush hour.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll.
>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm trying to decide about the elliptical
>>>>>>>>>>>>trainer at work as opposed to the treadmill. As
>>>>>>>>>>>>I found a number of years ago with PROGRAMMED
>>>>>>>>>>>>exercise bikes, the resistance is not as natural
>>>>>>>>>>>>as real biking, even up steep hills. They seem
>>>>>>>>>>>>to put more pressure on the knee that I get in
>>>>>>>>>>>>real life on some very steep rides. Same seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>to be true for the elliptical and my knees do
>>>>>>>>>>>>not like it. I think the treadmill may be more
>>>>>>>>>>>>to my liking, well, to my knees' liking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F
>>>>>>>>>>>>was a new record high for the date. But CLOUDY
>>>>>>>>>>>>right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't like doing so amid heavy traffic and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>nutsy drivers. Our locale does have sidewalks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>but even crossing the streets you take your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>life into your own hands. It never ceases to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>amaze me just how unconscious and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>incondsiderate drivers are around here. My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>house sits in a very quiet neighborhood, and is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>relatively traffic free - other than those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>goofballs that have to drive through in a hurry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to avoid traffic lights. The problem begins if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I travel 1/2 a block to the west, 2 blocks to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the east, or 3 blocks to the north ... all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>major runways - two of which are considered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>state highways. I just need to remember to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>cross at the stoplight, which is out of my way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>if heading to the store. It at least gives me a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>fighting chance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>but not bitter cold either. This afternoon and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>evening had some serious gusts blowing through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>- had my downdraft flap on the stove rattling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>wildly. That is really a hoot and took me quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>some time to figure out what exactly I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>hearing. When I am upstairs, I know what it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles
>>>>>>>>>>>>> through the oven. But when in the basement
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... it sounds exactly like someone is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> knocking ferociously on the door (the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exterior flap is only a few feet north and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at ceiling level of the wall the treadmill
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is on. A few weeks ago I kept running up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and down stairs, thinking someone was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing games with me. I was rather slow in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solving the mystery. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>was asking me this morning for excercise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>advice? LOL! Who woulda ever thought! She has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>bought herself an eliptical machine, finally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>got it up and running last week and wanted some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>advise on how long she should be using it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>how often. She is being incredibly hard on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>herself because she is only going 20 minutes on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>alternating days. I told her she really needed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to remember that she is also dealing with 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>small children and their schedules, just gave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>birth 2 months ago (and is already back to her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>pre-pregnancy weight), and starting an exercise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>routine for the first time in many years. Start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>slow, work up - my advise in a nutshell. We're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>currently trying to figure out how to tunnel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>under the street and connect the two basements
>>>>>>>>>>>>>... could have one heck of a gym set up. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is a pretty good walking town if you like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HILLS!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the mountains I don't know what they reached.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But it was mind-blowingly perfect UP there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>figure out how (G)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hovering, aren't I? <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>isn't it? Wonder why I didn't think of it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>before. <G> Really, I usually don't as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>traffic is very heavy in this area
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crazy drivers. But I knew I could use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back entrance and only have to cross on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> street to get to the park, then it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quiet and peaceful. Hub and I will usually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walk this route when we go to the bread
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outlet store - but having to cross the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major roads does not enthuse me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was 45F when I was out this morning. But it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>felt like a heat wave compared to those 30's.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I think they are talking similar temps all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>week long, but I also believe they have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rain in the forecast. THAT's nice for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if it was an upward hover somewhere along
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the line (G)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>truly amazing (G) Spring is coming here,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>too. 60F+ and today and closer to 70F
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tomorrow (when I hope to ski or, at least,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hike)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for me ... down, down, down all week long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... up today for weigh in. Isn't that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>way life always goes? <G> No biggie, todays
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>weight still showed me a 1.3 loss from last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>week and really did not surprise me at all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>as I had a very salty meal last nite which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>had me drinking mega quantities ... and not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>running to the potty. <G> I'll enjoy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>knowing that during the week I DID see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lower numbers and will not allow myself to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>get worked up over this. I AM MAINTAINING,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and quite nicely I feel. So the official
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Friday numbers are .......................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>total loss to date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me ... which for most probably isn't a big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>deal, but it made me feel good. Last night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hub noticed I had driven a huge screw into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the rear tire of one of our vehicles, of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>course the one that sonny boy needs to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>borrow to head up to the old college campus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and retrieve the last of his possessions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>He made an appointment at the local repair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>place to have it fixed today, called and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>told me that SIL was not working ... call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and have him pick me up. Wellllll, I drove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the car in, set everything up and thought,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>geeeeeesh, I'm only a few blocks from home,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>can walk straight through the park, dodging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the geese ... and it IS somewhat of a nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>day out ... why call? I'll probably make it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>home faster if I walk. So picked my little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>legs up and off I went. I have no idea how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fast I walked, hard to judge without that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lcd monitor in front of me <G>, but I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>home in less than 7 minutes. And I felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>terrific. WooHoo!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>current weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
Actually, this is recording software that has replaced a
tape and it is a windows' application. But I should learn
more today - maybe!

On Mon, 3 May 2004 07:20:07 -0500, "skiur"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>*ouch* sorry to hear that Fred.
>
>Can you switch to Linux for what you do? (DH would be so
>proud of me saying that, *sigh*)
>
>Julie, who is really behind on messages still... "Fred"
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Well, technology almost bit us at work today. Windows
>> threw up an error box saying a file was not saved and
>> data was probably lost. I cannot explain the
>> circumstances other than to say - it could have been a
>> real problem. The old fashioned way of data storage was
>> much less prone to MS erroring out on us!!!!!!
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:04:48 -0500, Joyce
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >It's amazing to me also, right up there with the concept
>> >of pushing a
>button when
>> >inside my home and having my car start up. No, I don't
>> >have this but it
>still
>> >amazes me that it is possible. I often wonder what the
>> >future will hold
>in store
>> >for my kids ... what will be totally new to them and
>> >foreign to us.
>> >
>> >Those visuals were a bit touristy to me, but I think the
>> >talking and
>explanations
>> >bothered me more. It wasn't very peppy, kind of mundane.
>> >I'm sure it
>appeals to
>> >a lot of people, but it just doesn't get me excited. At
>> >least not enough
>to have
>> >to pay $10/month for the option. The treadmill workouts
>> >that I use are
>free.
>> >
>> >I know they say progress is a good thing, I'm just not
>> >so sure as to how
>far we
>> >really should - or need to - go. Somethings I just shake
>> >my head at and
>laugh.
>> >Of course, hub does the same over my now computerized
>> >treadmill. Guess
>it's one
>> >of those *to each their own* things.
>> >
>> >Joyce
>> >
>> >On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:17:25 -0700, Fred
>> ><[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> >
>> >>I guess I still find that pretty amazing. The control
>> >>of the treadmill over the internet. And it sounds as if
>> >>it works by making things more interesting and possibly
>> >>challenging.
>> >>
>> >>I might like the visuals but maybe too touristy.
>> >>
>> >>We ARE living in the just pre-jetson's era and it gets
>> >>closer daily. Good? Bad? or just plain INTERESTING?
>> >>
>> >>On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 02:05:38 -0500, Joyce
>> >><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>It really is pretty neat, but not flawless. The signal
>> >>>that is sent
>from the
>> >>>computer to the treadmill happens very quickly - so
>> >>>sometimes is
>*missed* and the
>> >>>treadmill does not adjust to the new speed/incline.
>> >>>And twice now it
>has misread
>> >>>the signal and boosted me to mega-speeds (which is
>> >>>always interesting).
>But ...
>> >>>these workouts are shown on the computer screen with
>> >>>the speed and
>incline in
>> >>>large print - so I can manually adjust very easily. I
>> >>>am finding they
>are much
>> >>>better workouts than I was doing on my own, and the
>> >>>time seems to pass
>so much
>> >>>more quickly (probably because of the constantly
>> >>>changing
>speed/inclines). I've
>> >>>also found that I've quickly become addicted ... I
>> >>>can't seem to stay
>away from
>> >>>the treadmill now. Not sure if that is a good thing or
>> >>>not. <g>
>> >>>
>> >>>I've looked at a few of their scenic workouts, not
>> >>>really for *me*. I
>thought it
>> >>>would be just like trekking through the mountains,
>> >>>which would be fun.
>Nope. It
>> >>>appears more to be someone that has taken video shots
>> >>>of the scenery,
>stairs, sky,
>> >>>whatever - and explains what you are viewing.
>> >>>
>> >>>My brother and I were talking when we were setting up
>> >>>the treadmill -
>he said it
>> >>>reminded him of the old jetson's cartoons ... when he
>> >>>was on a similar
>thing
>> >>>running with the dog. Who would have thought. <g>
>> >>>
>> >>>Joyce
>> >>>
>> >>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:00:25 -0700, Fred
>> >>><[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Sheesh, hooked up a treadmill to an interactive
>> >>>>internet site. Remote control of your aerobic
>> >>>>workout. Reminds me of "The Outer Limits - we are in
>> >>>>control of the horizontal, we are in control of the
>> >>>>vertical, we will run your butt off!"
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I see they only use IE. Ah, they have a Half Dome -
>> >>>>Yosemite workout. I've been up there. It would be
>> >>>>wonderfully scenic.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>So, what - you hook up the treadmill to a usb port?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:55:13 -0500, Joyce
>> >>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>LOL! Probably no chance on the running - interval
>> >>>>>chasing maybe, but
>no official
>> >>>>>running. I did the interval thing today and the time
>> >>>>>did seem to go
>by so much
>> >>>>>faster. Tomorrow I'm going to try hooking up the
>> >>>>>treadmill to the
>internet
>> >>>>>website (www.ifit.com) and do one of their pre-
>> >>>>>programmed workouts.
>It
>> >>>>>automatically raises and lowers the speed and
>> >>>>>incline - will be fun
>to see how it
>> >>>>>works. I now can do this since I have semi-wireless
>> >>>>>internet
>capability.
>> >>>>>woohoo!!! They also have scenic things you can hike
>> >>>>>to - will try
>the 30 day free
>> >>>>>trial to see if I like it well enough to pay
>> >>>>>$10/month. Ahhhhhhhh,
>new toys are
>> >>>>>fun. <g>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Joyce
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:46:23 -0700, Fred
>> >>>>><[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I've also read about interval training. I know
>> >>>>>>folks swear by it
>for
>> >>>>>>bicycling, too. It does get the body in better
>> >>>>>>fashion to react to different things supposedly. So
>> >>>>>>keep it up - I guess it also made your session seem
>> >>>>>>faster. Keep it up. Soon you will be running
>> >>>>>>outdoors, through that park you mentioned (G)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:26:55 -0500, Joyce
>> >>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a great
>> >>>>>>>start. I seem to
>do fine those
>> >>>>>>>first 15 minutes or so, then I start looking at
>> >>>>>>>the clock and time
>tends to drag.
>> >>>>>>>I convince myself to just go one more *lap* (1/4
>> >>>>>>>mile on the lcd)
>or a few more
>> >>>>>>>minutes, then if I want to quit I can ... of
>> >>>>>>>course, that leads to
>more deals with
>> >>>>>>>myself. Most of the time I do make the 40-45
>> >>>>>>>minutes, sometimes I
>do quit after
>> >>>>>>>35 minutes. Afternoons I usually only make about
>> >>>>>>>25 minutes, as I
>have to get
>> >>>>>>>back upstairs and get back to dinner prep. Today I
>> >>>>>>>did something
>different and it
>> >>>>>>>did seem to make the time go a bit faster. I have
>> >>>>>>>been reading
>many different
>> >>>>>>>articles on interval training, I really have no
>> >>>>>>>clue as to whether
>this is good or
>> >>>>>>>bad - but so far everything I've read has been
>> >>>>>>>positive. The most
>recent article
>> >>>>>>>I saw said something about how calories burned
>> >>>>>>>with the same daily
>routine will
>> >>>>>>>eventually be less, as the body becomes used to
>> >>>>>>>the routine -
>interval training
>> >>>>>>>will keep the body working and burning. So ... I
>> >>>>>>>started with my
>first 15 minutes
>> >>>>>>>at the higher speed, dropped and did 2 minutes at
>> >>>>>>>a lower speed ...
>3 minutes at
>> >>>>>>>high speed again, 1 minute low, 3 min high, 1 min
>> >>>>>>>low, etc.
>Unbelievable how
>> >>>>>>>quickly the time did go by - maybe because I was
>> >>>>>>>focusing more on
>the shorter
>> >>>>>>>lengths of time?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Hitting that speed button was interesting, and a
>> >>>>>>>bit frightening at
>the moment.
>> >>>>>>>You would think I would have learned the lesson
>> >>>>>>>after the first
>time. Nope, not
>> >>>>>>>me - did the exact same thing again today ... with
>> >>>>>>>the same
>results. <sigh> I am
>> >>>>>>>getting rather good at being able to lift myself
>> >>>>>>>quickly on the
>support bars
>> >>>>>>>(guess I have also become a tad stronger - lol).
>> >>>>>>>While I can walk
>comfortably at
>> >>>>>>>an 8% incline level - I can NOT walk at 8MPH!
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Joyce
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Well, that's my main problem with most exercise
>> >>>>>>>>equipment - the boredom factor indoors. I've been
>> >>>>>>>>trying to get to the exercise equipemtn at work
>> >>>>>>>>in the mid-morning but only 15 minutes.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>I would like to have seen the speed button
>> >>>>>>>>mistake (G) I did that
>the
>> >>>>>>>>other day on the elliptical - I ran it backwards
>> >>>>>>>>too suddenly and
>too
>> >>>>>>>>much resistance. The elliptical with mild
>> >>>>>>>>resistance is not bad - same as treadmill, I
>> >>>>>>>>guess. I only have a nordic track here at
>home -
>> >>>>>>>>a dust catcher
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
>> >>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried
>> >>>>>>>>>an eliptical
>machine once,
>> >>>>>>>>>several years ago. I had problems with it, again
>> >>>>>>>>>the knee
>thing - just wasn't for
>> >>>>>>>>>me, I knew it wasn't something I could or would
>> >>>>>>>>>stick to for
>long. I don't mind
>> >>>>>>>>>the exercycles, hubs new one seems rather nice
>> >>>>>>>>>but I honestly
>haven't used it more
>> >>>>>>>>>than a very few short minutes. The key to me for
>> >>>>>>>>>lowering the
>knee stress was to
>> >>>>>>>>>find the correct spot for the seat ... which was
>> >>>>>>>>>not easy. Too
>far away or too
>> >>>>>>>>>close, and the knees screamed at me. I think
>> >>>>>>>>>that is why I
>probably don't get on
>> >>>>>>>>>it now, then hub would have to constantly move
>> >>>>>>>>>that seat back and
>forth. They
>> >>>>>>>>>need to incorporate a motorized seat control,
>> >>>>>>>>>like they do in
>automobiles - would
>> >>>>>>>>>be so much easier when having multiple users.
>> >>>>>>>>>The treadmill was
>the perfect
>> >>>>>>>>>answer ... for me. I love walking, it's
>> >>>>>>>>>relatively pain free if
>I don't do stupid
>> >>>>>>>>>stuff (like hitting the increase speed button
>> >>>>>>>>>instead of the
>increase incline -
>> >>>>>>>>>THAT result was rather interesting this morning
>> >>>>>>>>>... as well as
>producing a bit of
>> >>>>>>>>>panic). It can be rather boring though, so I
>> >>>>>>>>>have to find
>something to keep me
>> >>>>>>>>>somewhat occupied while I'm on it.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>Joyce
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too.
>> >>>>>>>>>>Walking to the
>U-district
>> >>>>>>>>>>(Univ of Washingon is about a mile east)
>> >>>>>>>>>>requires crossing I-5
>which
>> >>>>>>>>>>is an assault on the senses as well as walking
>> >>>>>>>>>>along busy
>streets.
>> >>>>>>>>>>And crossing north-south is restricted to keep
>> >>>>>>>>>>the east-west
>flow of
>> >>>>>>>>>>cars unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile loop around the
>> >>>>>>>>>>lake is actually traffic light free and pretty
>> >>>>>>>>>>low-key except at rush hour.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll.
>> >>>>>>>>>>I'm trying to
>decide
>> >>>>>>>>>>about the elliptical trainer at work as opposed
>> >>>>>>>>>>to the
>treadmill. As
>> >>>>>>>>>>I found a number of years ago with PROGRAMMED
>> >>>>>>>>>>exercise bikes,
>the
>> >>>>>>>>>>resistance is not as natural as real biking,
>> >>>>>>>>>>even up steep
>hills.
>> >>>>>>>>>>They seem to put more pressure on the knee that
>> >>>>>>>>>>I get in real
>life on
>> >>>>>>>>>>some very steep rides. Same seems to be true
>> >>>>>>>>>>for the elliptical
>and
>> >>>>>>>>>>my knees do not like it. I think the treadmill
>> >>>>>>>>>>may be more to
>my
>> >>>>>>>>>>liking, well, to my knees' liking.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F
>> >>>>>>>>>>was a new record
>high
>> >>>>>>>>>>for the date. But CLOUDY right now.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>> >>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>don't like doing
>so amid heavy
>> >>>>>>>>>>>traffic and nutsy drivers. Our locale does
>> >>>>>>>>>>>have sidewalks, but
>even crossing the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>streets you take your life into your own
>> >>>>>>>>>>>hands. It never
>ceases to amaze me just
>> >>>>>>>>>>>how unconscious and incondsiderate drivers are
>> >>>>>>>>>>>around here. My
>house sits in a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>very quiet neighborhood, and is relatively
>> >>>>>>>>>>>traffic free - other
>than those
>> >>>>>>>>>>>goofballs that have to drive through in a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>hurry to avoid
>traffic lights. The
>> >>>>>>>>>>>problem begins if I travel 1/2 a block to the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>west, 2 blocks to
>the east, or 3
>> >>>>>>>>>>>blocks to the north ... all major runways -
>> >>>>>>>>>>>two of which are
>considered state
>> >>>>>>>>>>>highways. I just need to remember to cross at
>> >>>>>>>>>>>the stoplight,
>which is out of my
>> >>>>>>>>>>>way if heading to the store. It at least gives
>> >>>>>>>>>>>me a fighting
>chance.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm
>> >>>>>>>>>>>but not bitter
>cold either. This
>> >>>>>>>>>>>afternoon and evening had some serious gusts
>> >>>>>>>>>>>blowing through -
>had my downdraft
>> >>>>>>>>>>>flap on the stove rattling wildly. That is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>really a hoot and
>took me quite some
>> >>>>>>>>>>>time to figure out what exactly I was hearing.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>When I am
>upstairs, I know what it
>> >>>>>>>>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles
>> >>>>>>>>>>> through the oven.
>But when in the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>basement ... it sounds exactly like someone is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>knocking
>ferociously on the door
>> >>>>>>>>>>>(the exterior flap is only a few feet north
>> >>>>>>>>>>>and at ceiling
>level of the wall the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>treadmill is on. A few weeks ago I kept
>> >>>>>>>>>>>running up and down
>stairs, thinking
>> >>>>>>>>>>>someone was playing games with me. I was
>> >>>>>>>>>>>rather slow in
>solving the mystery. <G>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl
>> >>>>>>>>>>>was asking me
>this morning for
>> >>>>>>>>>>>excercise advice? LOL! Who woulda ever
>> >>>>>>>>>>>thought! She has
>bought herself an
>> >>>>>>>>>>>eliptical machine, finally got it up and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>running last week and
>wanted some advise
>> >>>>>>>>>>>on how long she should be using it and how
>> >>>>>>>>>>>often. She is being
>incredibly hard on
>> >>>>>>>>>>>herself because she is only going 20 minutes
>> >>>>>>>>>>>on alternating
>days. I told her she
>> >>>>>>>>>>>really needed to remember that she is also
>> >>>>>>>>>>>dealing with 2 small
>children and their
>> >>>>>>>>>>>schedules, just gave birth 2 months ago (and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>is already back to
>her pre-pregnancy
>> >>>>>>>>>>>weight), and starting an exercise routine for
>> >>>>>>>>>>>the first time in
>many years. Start
>> >>>>>>>>>>>slow, work up - my advise in a nutshell. We're
>> >>>>>>>>>>>currently
>trying to figure out how
>> >>>>>>>>>>>to tunnel under the street and connect the two
>> >>>>>>>>>>>basements ...
>could have one heck
>> >>>>>>>>>>>of a gym set up. <G>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Seattle is a pretty
>good
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>walking town if you like HILLS!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>the mountains I
>don't know
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>what they reached. But it was mind-blowingly
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>perfect UP
>there.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>figure out how (G)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>> >>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>hovering, aren't I?
><G>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>isn't it? Wonder
>why I didn't think of
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>it before. <G> Really, I usually don't as
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>the traffic is
>very heavy in this area
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> crazy drivers. But
>I knew I could use
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>the back entrance and only have to cross on
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>street to get to
>the park, then it was
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>quiet and peaceful. Hub and I will usually
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>walk this route
>when we go to the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>bread outlet store - but having to cross the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>major roads does
>not enthuse me.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>was 45F when I
>was out this morning.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>But it felt like a heat wave compared to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>those 30's. I think
>they are talking
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>similar temps all week long, but I also
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>believe they have no
>rain in the forecast.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>THAT's nice for a change.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>if it was an
>upward hover
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>somewhere along the line (G)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill -
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>amazing, truly amazing
>(G) Spring
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>is coming here, too. 60F+ and today and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>closer to 70F
>tomorrow (when
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I hope to ski or, at least, hike)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dance for me ...
>down, down, down all week
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>long ... up today for weigh in. Isn't that
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the way life
>always goes? <G> No
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>biggie, todays weight still showed me a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1.3 loss from last
>week and really did not
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>surprise me at all as I had a very salty
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>meal last nite
>which had me drinking mega
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quantities ... and not running to the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>potty. <G> I'll
>enjoy knowing that during
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the week I DID see lower numbers and will
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not allow myself
>to get worked up over
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite nicely I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>feel. So the
>official Friday numbers
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>are .......................
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>total loss to date: 98.1 pounds
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me ... which for
>most probably isn't a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big deal, but it made me feel good. Last
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>night hub noticed
>I had driven a huge
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>screw into the rear tire of one of our
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vehicles, of course
>the one that sonny boy
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>needs to borrow to head up to the old
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>college campus and
>retrieve the last of his
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>possessions. He made an appointment at the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>local repair
>place to have it fixed
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>today, called and told me that SIL was not
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>working ... call
>and have him pick me
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>up. Wellllll, I drove the car in, set
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything up and
>thought, geeeeeesh, I'm
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>only a few blocks from home, can walk
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>straight through the
>park, dodging the geese
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... and it IS somewhat of a nice day out
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... why call?
>I'll probably make it home
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>faster if I walk. So picked my little legs
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>up and off I
>went. I have no idea how
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fast I walked, hard to judge without that
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lcd monitor in
>front of me <G>, but I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was home in less than 7 minutes. And I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>felt terrific.
>WooHoo!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>current weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lifetime: 4/4/03
>
 
*ouch* sorry to hear that Fred.

Can you switch to Linux for what you do? (DH would be so
proud of me saying that, *sigh*)

Julie, who is really behind on messages still... "Fred"
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, technology almost bit us at work today. Windows
> threw up an error box saying a file was not saved and data
> was probably lost. I cannot explain the circumstances
> other than to say - it could have been a real problem. The
> old fashioned way of data storage was much less prone to
> MS erroring out on us!!!!!!
>
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:04:48 -0500, Joyce
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >It's amazing to me also, right up there with the concept
> >of pushing a
button when
> >inside my home and having my car start up. No, I don't
> >have this but it
still
> >amazes me that it is possible. I often wonder what the
> >future will hold
in store
> >for my kids ... what will be totally new to them and
> >foreign to us.
> >
> >Those visuals were a bit touristy to me, but I think the
> >talking and
explanations
> >bothered me more. It wasn't very peppy, kind of mundane.
> >I'm sure it
appeals to
> >a lot of people, but it just doesn't get me excited. At
> >least not enough
to have
> >to pay $10/month for the option. The treadmill workouts
> >that I use are
free.
> >
> >I know they say progress is a good thing, I'm just not so
> >sure as to how
far we
> >really should - or need to - go. Somethings I just shake
> >my head at and
laugh.
> >Of course, hub does the same over my now computerized
> >treadmill. Guess
it's one
> >of those *to each their own* things.
> >
> >Joyce
> >
> >On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:17:25 -0700, Fred
> ><[email protected]>
wrote:
> >
> >>I guess I still find that pretty amazing. The control of
> >>the treadmill over the internet. And it sounds as if it
> >>works by making things more interesting and possibly
> >>challenging.
> >>
> >>I might like the visuals but maybe too touristy.
> >>
> >>We ARE living in the just pre-jetson's era and it gets
> >>closer daily. Good? Bad? or just plain INTERESTING?
> >>
> >>On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 02:05:38 -0500, Joyce
> >><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>It really is pretty neat, but not flawless. The signal
> >>>that is sent
from the
> >>>computer to the treadmill happens very quickly - so
> >>>sometimes is
*missed* and the
> >>>treadmill does not adjust to the new speed/incline. And
> >>>twice now it
has misread
> >>>the signal and boosted me to mega-speeds (which is
> >>>always interesting).
But ...
> >>>these workouts are shown on the computer screen with
> >>>the speed and
incline in
> >>>large print - so I can manually adjust very easily. I
> >>>am finding they
are much
> >>>better workouts than I was doing on my own, and the
> >>>time seems to pass
so much
> >>>more quickly (probably because of the constantly
> >>>changing
speed/inclines). I've
> >>>also found that I've quickly become addicted ... I
> >>>can't seem to stay
away from
> >>>the treadmill now. Not sure if that is a good thing or
> >>>not. <g>
> >>>
> >>>I've looked at a few of their scenic workouts, not
> >>>really for *me*. I
thought it
> >>>would be just like trekking through the mountains,
> >>>which would be fun.
Nope. It
> >>>appears more to be someone that has taken video shots
> >>>of the scenery,
stairs, sky,
> >>>whatever - and explains what you are viewing.
> >>>
> >>>My brother and I were talking when we were setting up
> >>>the treadmill -
he said it
> >>>reminded him of the old jetson's cartoons ... when he
> >>>was on a similar
thing
> >>>running with the dog. Who would have thought. <g>
> >>>
> >>>Joyce
> >>>
> >>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:00:25 -0700, Fred
> >>><[email protected]>
wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Sheesh, hooked up a treadmill to an interactive
> >>>>internet site. Remote control of your aerobic workout.
> >>>>Reminds me of "The Outer Limits - we are in control of
> >>>>the horizontal, we are in control of the vertical, we
> >>>>will run your butt off!"
> >>>>
> >>>>I see they only use IE. Ah, they have a Half Dome -
> >>>>Yosemite workout. I've been up there. It would be
> >>>>wonderfully scenic.
> >>>>
> >>>>So, what - you hook up the treadmill to a usb port?
> >>>>
> >>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:55:13 -0500, Joyce
> >>>><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>LOL! Probably no chance on the running - interval
> >>>>>chasing maybe, but
no official
> >>>>>running. I did the interval thing today and the time
> >>>>>did seem to go
by so much
> >>>>>faster. Tomorrow I'm going to try hooking up the
> >>>>>treadmill to the
internet
> >>>>>website (www.ifit.com) and do one of their pre-
> >>>>>programmed workouts.
It
> >>>>>automatically raises and lowers the speed and incline
> >>>>>- will be fun
to see how it
> >>>>>works. I now can do this since I have semi-wireless
> >>>>>internet
capability.
> >>>>>woohoo!!! They also have scenic things you can hike
> >>>>>to - will try
the 30 day free
> >>>>>trial to see if I like it well enough to pay
> >>>>>$10/month. Ahhhhhhhh,
new toys are
> >>>>>fun. <g>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Joyce
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:46:23 -0700, Fred
> >>>>><[email protected]>
wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I've also read about interval training. I know folks
> >>>>>>swear by it
for
> >>>>>>bicycling, too. It does get the body in better
> >>>>>>fashion to react to different things supposedly. So
> >>>>>>keep it up - I guess it also made your session seem
> >>>>>>faster. Keep it up. Soon you will be running
> >>>>>>outdoors, through that park you mentioned (G)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:26:55 -0500, Joyce
> >>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a great
> >>>>>>>start. I seem to
do fine those
> >>>>>>>first 15 minutes or so, then I start looking at the
> >>>>>>>clock and time
tends to drag.
> >>>>>>>I convince myself to just go one more *lap* (1/4
> >>>>>>>mile on the lcd)
or a few more
> >>>>>>>minutes, then if I want to quit I can ... of
> >>>>>>>course, that leads to
more deals with
> >>>>>>>myself. Most of the time I do make the 40-45
> >>>>>>>minutes, sometimes I
do quit after
> >>>>>>>35 minutes. Afternoons I usually only make about 25
> >>>>>>>minutes, as I
have to get
> >>>>>>>back upstairs and get back to dinner prep. Today I
> >>>>>>>did something
different and it
> >>>>>>>did seem to make the time go a bit faster. I have
> >>>>>>>been reading
many different
> >>>>>>>articles on interval training, I really have no
> >>>>>>>clue as to whether
this is good or
> >>>>>>>bad - but so far everything I've read has been
> >>>>>>>positive. The most
recent article
> >>>>>>>I saw said something about how calories burned with
> >>>>>>>the same daily
routine will
> >>>>>>>eventually be less, as the body becomes used to the
> >>>>>>>routine -
interval training
> >>>>>>>will keep the body working and burning. So ... I
> >>>>>>>started with my
first 15 minutes
> >>>>>>>at the higher speed, dropped and did 2 minutes at a
> >>>>>>>lower speed ...
3 minutes at
> >>>>>>>high speed again, 1 minute low, 3 min high, 1 min
> >>>>>>>low, etc.
Unbelievable how
> >>>>>>>quickly the time did go by - maybe because I was
> >>>>>>>focusing more on
the shorter
> >>>>>>>lengths of time?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hitting that speed button was interesting, and a
> >>>>>>>bit frightening at
the moment.
> >>>>>>>You would think I would have learned the lesson
> >>>>>>>after the first
time. Nope, not
> >>>>>>>me - did the exact same thing again today ... with
> >>>>>>>the same
results. <sigh> I am
> >>>>>>>getting rather good at being able to lift myself
> >>>>>>>quickly on the
support bars
> >>>>>>>(guess I have also become a tad stronger - lol).
> >>>>>>>While I can walk
comfortably at
> >>>>>>>an 8% incline level - I can NOT walk at 8MPH!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Joyce
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Well, that's my main problem with most exercise
> >>>>>>>>equipment - the boredom factor indoors. I've been
> >>>>>>>>trying to get to the exercise equipemtn at work in
> >>>>>>>>the mid-morning but only 15 minutes.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I would like to have seen the speed button mistake
> >>>>>>>>(G) I did that
the
> >>>>>>>>other day on the elliptical - I ran it backwards
> >>>>>>>>too suddenly and
too
> >>>>>>>>much resistance. The elliptical with mild
> >>>>>>>>resistance is not bad - same as treadmill, I
> >>>>>>>>guess. I only have a nordic track here at
home -
> >>>>>>>>a dust catcher
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
> >>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only tried
> >>>>>>>>>an eliptical
machine once,
> >>>>>>>>>several years ago. I had problems with it, again
> >>>>>>>>>the knee
thing - just wasn't for
> >>>>>>>>>me, I knew it wasn't something I could or would
> >>>>>>>>>stick to for
long. I don't mind
> >>>>>>>>>the exercycles, hubs new one seems rather nice
> >>>>>>>>>but I honestly
haven't used it more
> >>>>>>>>>than a very few short minutes. The key to me for
> >>>>>>>>>lowering the
knee stress was to
> >>>>>>>>>find the correct spot for the seat ... which was
> >>>>>>>>>not easy. Too
far away or too
> >>>>>>>>>close, and the knees screamed at me. I think that
> >>>>>>>>>is why I
probably don't get on
> >>>>>>>>>it now, then hub would have to constantly move
> >>>>>>>>>that seat back and
forth. They
> >>>>>>>>>need to incorporate a motorized seat control,
> >>>>>>>>>like they do in
automobiles - would
> >>>>>>>>>be so much easier when having multiple users. The
> >>>>>>>>>treadmill was
the perfect
> >>>>>>>>>answer ... for me. I love walking, it's
> >>>>>>>>>relatively pain free if
I don't do stupid
> >>>>>>>>>stuff (like hitting the increase speed button
> >>>>>>>>>instead of the
increase incline -
> >>>>>>>>>THAT result was rather interesting this morning
> >>>>>>>>>... as well as
producing a bit of
> >>>>>>>>>panic). It can be rather boring though, so I have
> >>>>>>>>>to find
something to keep me
> >>>>>>>>>somewhat occupied while I'm on it.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Joyce
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too. Walking
> >>>>>>>>>>to the
U-district
> >>>>>>>>>>(Univ of Washingon is about a mile east)
> >>>>>>>>>>requires crossing I-5
which
> >>>>>>>>>>is an assault on the senses as well as walking
> >>>>>>>>>>along busy
streets.
> >>>>>>>>>>And crossing north-south is restricted to keep
> >>>>>>>>>>the east-west
flow of
> >>>>>>>>>>cars unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile loop around the
> >>>>>>>>>>lake is actually traffic light free and pretty
> >>>>>>>>>>low-key except at rush hour.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great roll.
> >>>>>>>>>>I'm trying to
decide
> >>>>>>>>>>about the elliptical trainer at work as opposed
> >>>>>>>>>>to the
treadmill. As
> >>>>>>>>>>I found a number of years ago with PROGRAMMED
> >>>>>>>>>>exercise bikes,
the
> >>>>>>>>>>resistance is not as natural as real biking,
> >>>>>>>>>>even up steep
hills.
> >>>>>>>>>>They seem to put more pressure on the knee that
> >>>>>>>>>>I get in real
life on
> >>>>>>>>>>some very steep rides. Same seems to be true for
> >>>>>>>>>>the elliptical
and
> >>>>>>>>>>my knees do not like it. I think the treadmill
> >>>>>>>>>>may be more to
my
> >>>>>>>>>>liking, well, to my knees' liking.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's 71F
> >>>>>>>>>>was a new record
high
> >>>>>>>>>>for the date. But CLOUDY right now.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
> >>>>>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I
> >>>>>>>>>>>don't like doing
so amid heavy
> >>>>>>>>>>>traffic and nutsy drivers. Our locale does have
> >>>>>>>>>>>sidewalks, but
even crossing the
> >>>>>>>>>>>streets you take your life into your own hands.
> >>>>>>>>>>>It never
ceases to amaze me just
> >>>>>>>>>>>how unconscious and incondsiderate drivers are
> >>>>>>>>>>>around here. My
house sits in a
> >>>>>>>>>>>very quiet neighborhood, and is relatively
> >>>>>>>>>>>traffic free - other
than those
> >>>>>>>>>>>goofballs that have to drive through in a hurry
> >>>>>>>>>>>to avoid
traffic lights. The
> >>>>>>>>>>>problem begins if I travel 1/2 a block to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>west, 2 blocks to
the east, or 3
> >>>>>>>>>>>blocks to the north ... all major runways - two
> >>>>>>>>>>>of which are
considered state
> >>>>>>>>>>>highways. I just need to remember to cross at
> >>>>>>>>>>>the stoplight,
which is out of my
> >>>>>>>>>>>way if heading to the store. It at least gives
> >>>>>>>>>>>me a fighting
chance.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not warm
> >>>>>>>>>>>but not bitter
cold either. This
> >>>>>>>>>>>afternoon and evening had some serious gusts
> >>>>>>>>>>>blowing through -
had my downdraft
> >>>>>>>>>>>flap on the stove rattling wildly. That is
> >>>>>>>>>>>really a hoot and
took me quite some
> >>>>>>>>>>>time to figure out what exactly I was hearing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>When I am
upstairs, I know what it
> >>>>>>>>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles
> >>>>>>>>>>> through the oven.
But when in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>basement ... it sounds exactly like someone is
> >>>>>>>>>>>knocking
ferociously on the door
> >>>>>>>>>>>(the exterior flap is only a few feet north and
> >>>>>>>>>>>at ceiling
level of the wall the
> >>>>>>>>>>>treadmill is on. A few weeks ago I kept running
> >>>>>>>>>>>up and down
stairs, thinking
> >>>>>>>>>>>someone was playing games with me. I was rather
> >>>>>>>>>>>slow in
solving the mystery. <G>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest girl
> >>>>>>>>>>>was asking me
this morning for
> >>>>>>>>>>>excercise advice? LOL! Who woulda ever thought!
> >>>>>>>>>>>She has
bought herself an
> >>>>>>>>>>>eliptical machine, finally got it up and
> >>>>>>>>>>>running last week and
wanted some advise
> >>>>>>>>>>>on how long she should be using it and how
> >>>>>>>>>>>often. She is being
incredibly hard on
> >>>>>>>>>>>herself because she is only going 20 minutes on
> >>>>>>>>>>>alternating
days. I told her she
> >>>>>>>>>>>really needed to remember that she is also
> >>>>>>>>>>>dealing with 2 small
children and their
> >>>>>>>>>>>schedules, just gave birth 2 months ago (and is
> >>>>>>>>>>>already back to
her pre-pregnancy
> >>>>>>>>>>>weight), and starting an exercise routine for
> >>>>>>>>>>>the first time in
many years. Start
> >>>>>>>>>>>slow, work up - my advise in a nutshell. We're
> >>>>>>>>>>>currently
trying to figure out how
> >>>>>>>>>>>to tunnel under the street and connect the two
> >>>>>>>>>>>basements ...
could have one heck
> >>>>>>>>>>>of a gym set up. <G>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain. Seattle
> >>>>>>>>>>>>is a pretty
good
> >>>>>>>>>>>>walking town if you like HILLS!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>the mountains I
don't know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>what they reached. But it was mind-blowingly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>perfect UP
there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>figure out how (G)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
> >>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]>
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>hovering, aren't I?
<G>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>isn't it? Wonder
why I didn't think of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>it before. <G> Really, I usually don't as the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>traffic is
very heavy in this area
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> crazy drivers. But
I knew I could use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>the back entrance and only have to cross on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>street to get to
the park, then it was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>quiet and peaceful. Hub and I will usually
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>walk this route
when we go to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>bread outlet store - but having to cross the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>major roads does
not enthuse me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>was 45F when I
was out this morning.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>But it felt like a heat wave compared to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>those 30's. I think
they are talking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>similar temps all week long, but I also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>believe they have no
rain in the forecast.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>THAT's nice for a change.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover even
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>if it was an
upward hover
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>somewhere along the line (G)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill - amazing,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>truly amazing
(H) Spring
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>is coming here, too. 60F+ and today and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>closer to 70F
tomorrow (when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I hope to ski or, at least, hike)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]>
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a dance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for me ...
down, down, down all week
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>long ... up today for weigh in. Isn't that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the way life
always goes? <G> No
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>biggie, todays weight still showed me a 1.3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>loss from last
week and really did not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>surprise me at all as I had a very salty
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>meal last nite
which had me drinking mega
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quantities ... and not running to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>potty. <G> I'll
enjoy knowing that during
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the week I DID see lower numbers and will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not allow myself
to get worked up over
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite nicely I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>feel. So the
official Friday numbers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>are .......................
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>total loss to date: 98.1 pounds
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me ... which for
most probably isn't a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big deal, but it made me feel good. Last
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>night hub noticed
I had driven a huge
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>screw into the rear tire of one of our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vehicles, of course
the one that sonny boy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>needs to borrow to head up to the old
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>college campus and
retrieve the last of his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>possessions. He made an appointment at the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>local repair
place to have it fixed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>today, called and told me that SIL was not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>working ... call
and have him pick me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>up. Wellllll, I drove the car in, set
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything up and
thought, geeeeeesh, I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>only a few blocks from home, can walk
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>straight through the
park, dodging the geese
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... and it IS somewhat of a nice day out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... why call?
I'll probably make it home
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>faster if I walk. So picked my little legs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>up and off I
went. I have no idea how
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fast I walked, hard to judge without that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lcd monitor in
front of me <G>, but I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was home in less than 7 minutes. And I felt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>terrific.
WooHoo!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>current weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lifetime: 4/4/03
 
Well, the file was there. They suspect that there was a
network blip at that time the error box popped up. It was
not a fun time. But we lived through it.

On Tue, 4 May 2004 17:56:20 -0500, "skiur"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>How'd it go?
>
>"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Actually, this is recording software that has replaced a
>> tape and it is a windows' application. But I should learn
>> more today - maybe!
>>
>> On Mon, 3 May 2004 07:20:07 -0500, "skiur"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >*ouch* sorry to hear that Fred.
>> >
>> >Can you switch to Linux for what you do? (DH would be so
>> >proud of me
>saying
>> >that, *sigh*)
>> >
>> >Julie, who is really behind on messages still... "Fred"
>> ><[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> Well, technology almost bit us at work today. Windows
>> >> threw up an error box saying a file was not saved and
>> >> data was probably lost. I cannot explain the
>> >> circumstances other than to say - it could have been a
>> >> real problem. The old fashioned way of data storage
>> >> was much less prone to MS erroring out on us!!!!!!
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:04:48 -0500, Joyce
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >It's amazing to me also, right up there with the
>> >> >concept of pushing a
>> >button when
>> >> >inside my home and having my car start up. No, I
>> >> >don't have this but
>it
>> >still
>> >> >amazes me that it is possible. I often wonder what
>> >> >the future will
>hold
>> >in store
>> >> >for my kids ... what will be totally new to them and
>> >> >foreign to us.
>> >> >
>> >> >Those visuals were a bit touristy to me, but I think
>> >> >the talking and
>> >explanations
>> >> >bothered me more. It wasn't very peppy, kind of
>> >> >mundane. I'm sure it
>> >appeals to
>> >> >a lot of people, but it just doesn't get me excited.
>> >> >At least not
>enough
>> >to have
>> >> >to pay $10/month for the option. The treadmill
>> >> >workouts that I use
>are
>> >free.
>> >> >
>> >> >I know they say progress is a good thing, I'm just
>> >> >not so sure as to
>how
>> >far we
>> >> >really should - or need to - go. Somethings I just
>> >> >shake my head at
>and
>> >laugh.
>> >> >Of course, hub does the same over my now computerized
>> >> >treadmill.
>Guess
>> >it's one
>> >> >of those *to each their own* things.
>> >> >
>> >> >Joyce
>> >> >
>> >> >On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:17:25 -0700, Fred
>> >> ><[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>I guess I still find that pretty amazing. The
>> >> >>control of the treadmill over the internet. And it
>> >> >>sounds as if it works by making things more
>> >> >>interesting and possibly challenging.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I might like the visuals but maybe too touristy.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>We ARE living in the just pre-jetson's era and it
>> >> >>gets closer daily. Good? Bad? or just plain
>> >> >>INTERESTING?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 02:05:38 -0500, Joyce
>> >> >><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>It really is pretty neat, but not flawless. The
>> >> >>>signal that is sent
>> >from the
>> >> >>>computer to the treadmill happens very quickly - so
>> >> >>>sometimes is
>> >*missed* and the
>> >> >>>treadmill does not adjust to the new speed/incline.
>> >> >>>And twice now
>it
>> >has misread
>> >> >>>the signal and boosted me to mega-speeds (which is
>> >> >>>always
>interesting).
>> >But ...
>> >> >>>these workouts are shown on the computer screen
>> >> >>>with the speed and
>> >incline in
>> >> >>>large print - so I can manually adjust very easily.
>> >> >>>I am finding
>they
>> >are much
>> >> >>>better workouts than I was doing on my own, and the
>> >> >>>time seems to
>pass
>> >so much
>> >> >>>more quickly (probably because of the constantly
>> >> >>>changing
>> >speed/inclines). I've
>> >> >>>also found that I've quickly become addicted ... I
>> >> >>>can't seem to
>stay
>> >away from
>> >> >>>the treadmill now. Not sure if that is a good thing
>> >> >>>or not. <g>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>I've looked at a few of their scenic workouts, not
>> >> >>>really for *me*.
>I
>> >thought it
>> >> >>>would be just like trekking through the mountains,
>> >> >>>which would be
>fun.
>> >Nope. It
>> >> >>>appears more to be someone that has taken video
>> >> >>>shots of the
>scenery,
>> >stairs, sky,
>> >> >>>whatever - and explains what you are viewing.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>My brother and I were talking when we were setting
>> >> >>>up the
>treadmill -
>> >he said it
>> >> >>>reminded him of the old jetson's cartoons ... when
>> >> >>>he was on a
>similar
>> >thing
>> >> >>>running with the dog. Who would have thought. <g>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Joyce
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:00:25 -0700, Fred
>> >> >>><[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>Sheesh, hooked up a treadmill to an interactive
>> >> >>>>internet site.
>Remote
>> >> >>>>control of your aerobic workout. Reminds me of
>> >> >>>>"The Outer Limits -
>we
>> >> >>>>are in control of the horizontal, we are in
>> >> >>>>control of the
>vertical,
>> >> >>>>we will run your butt off!"
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>I see they only use IE. Ah, they have a Half Dome
>> >> >>>>- Yosemite
>workout.
>> >> >>>>I've been up there. It would be wonderfully
>> >> >>>>scenic.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>So, what - you hook up the treadmill to a usb
>> >> >>>>port?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:55:13 -0500, Joyce
>> >> >>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>LOL! Probably no chance on the running - interval
>> >> >>>>>chasing maybe,
>but
>> >no official
>> >> >>>>>running. I did the interval thing today and the
>> >> >>>>>time did seem to
>go
>> >by so much
>> >> >>>>>faster. Tomorrow I'm going to try hooking up the
>> >> >>>>>treadmill to the
>> >internet
>> >> >>>>>website (www.ifit.com) and do one of their pre-
>> >> >>>>>programmed
>workouts.
>> >It
>> >> >>>>>automatically raises and lowers the speed and
>> >> >>>>>incline - will be
>fun
>> >to see how it
>> >> >>>>>works. I now can do this since I have semi-
>> >> >>>>>wireless internet
>> >capability.
>> >> >>>>>woohoo!!! They also have scenic things you can
>> >> >>>>>hike to - will try
>> >the 30 day free
>> >> >>>>>trial to see if I like it well enough to pay
>> >> >>>>>$10/month.
>Ahhhhhhhh,
>> >new toys are
>> >> >>>>>fun. <g>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Joyce
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:46:23 -0700, Fred
><[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>I've also read about interval training. I know
>> >> >>>>>>folks swear by it
>> >for
>> >> >>>>>>bicycling, too. It does get the body in better
>> >> >>>>>>fashion to react
>to
>> >> >>>>>>different things supposedly. So keep it up - I
>> >> >>>>>>guess it also
>made
>> >> >>>>>>your session seem faster. Keep it up. Soon you
>> >> >>>>>>will be running outdoors, through that park you
>> >> >>>>>>mentioned (G)
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:26:55 -0500, Joyce
>> >> >>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a
>> >> >>>>>>>great start. I seem
>to
>> >do fine those
>> >> >>>>>>>first 15 minutes or so, then I start looking at
>> >> >>>>>>>the clock and
>time
>> >tends to drag.
>> >> >>>>>>>I convince myself to just go one more *lap*
>> >> >>>>>>>(1/4 mile on the
>lcd)
>> >or a few more
>> >> >>>>>>>minutes, then if I want to quit I can ... of
>> >> >>>>>>>course, that leads
>to
>> >more deals with
>> >> >>>>>>>myself. Most of the time I do make the 40-45
>> >> >>>>>>>minutes, sometimes
>I
>> >do quit after
>> >> >>>>>>>35 minutes. Afternoons I usually only make
>> >> >>>>>>>about 25 minutes, as
>I
>> >have to get
>> >> >>>>>>>back upstairs and get back to dinner prep.
>> >> >>>>>>>Today I did
>something
>> >different and it
>> >> >>>>>>>did seem to make the time go a bit faster. I
>> >> >>>>>>>have been reading
>> >many different
>> >> >>>>>>>articles on interval training, I really have no
>> >> >>>>>>>clue as to
>whether
>> >this is good or
>> >> >>>>>>>bad - but so far everything I've read has been
>> >> >>>>>>>positive. The
>most
>> >recent article
>> >> >>>>>>>I saw said something about how calories burned
>> >> >>>>>>>with the same
>daily
>> >routine will
>> >> >>>>>>>eventually be less, as the body becomes used to
>> >> >>>>>>>the routine -
>> >interval training
>> >> >>>>>>>will keep the body working and burning. So ...
>> >> >>>>>>>I started with
>my
>> >first 15 minutes
>> >> >>>>>>>at the higher speed, dropped and did 2 minutes
>> >> >>>>>>>at a lower speed
>...
>> >3 minutes at
>> >> >>>>>>>high speed again, 1 minute low, 3 min high, 1
>> >> >>>>>>>min low, etc.
>> >Unbelievable how
>> >> >>>>>>>quickly the time did go by - maybe because I
>> >> >>>>>>>was focusing more
>on
>> >the shorter
>> >> >>>>>>>lengths of time?
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>Hitting that speed button was interesting, and
>> >> >>>>>>>a bit frightening
>at
>> >the moment.
>> >> >>>>>>>You would think I would have learned the lesson
>> >> >>>>>>>after the first
>
>> >time. Nope, not
>> >> >>>>>>>me - did the exact same thing again today ...
>> >> >>>>>>>with the same
>> >results. <sigh> I am
>> >> >>>>>>>getting rather good at being able to lift
>> >> >>>>>>>myself quickly on the
>> >support bars
>> >> >>>>>>>(guess I have also become a tad stronger -
>> >> >>>>>>>lol). While I can
>walk
>> >comfortably at
>> >> >>>>>>>an 8% incline level - I can NOT walk at 8MPH!
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>Joyce
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>Well, that's my main problem with most
>> >> >>>>>>>>exercise equipment - the boredom factor
>> >> >>>>>>>>indoors. I've been trying to get to the
>exercise
>> >> >>>>>>>>equipemtn at work in the mid-morning but only
>> >> >>>>>>>>15 minutes.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>I would like to have seen the speed button
>> >> >>>>>>>>mistake (G) I did
>that
>> >the
>> >> >>>>>>>>other day on the elliptical - I ran it
>> >> >>>>>>>>backwards too suddenly
>and
>> >too
>> >> >>>>>>>>much resistance. The elliptical with mild
>> >> >>>>>>>>resistance is not
>bad -
>> >> >>>>>>>>same as treadmill, I guess. I only have a
>> >> >>>>>>>>nordic track here at
>> >home -
>> >> >>>>>>>>a dust catcher
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
>> >> >>>>>>>><[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only
>> >> >>>>>>>>>tried an eliptical
>> >machine once,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>several years ago. I had problems with it,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>again the knee
>> >thing - just wasn't for
>> >> >>>>>>>>>me, I knew it wasn't something I could or
>> >> >>>>>>>>>would stick to for
>> >long. I don't mind
>> >> >>>>>>>>>the exercycles, hubs new one seems rather
>> >> >>>>>>>>>nice but I honestly
>> >haven't used it more
>> >> >>>>>>>>>than a very few short minutes. The key to me
>> >> >>>>>>>>>for lowering the
>> >knee stress was to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>find the correct spot for the seat ... which
>> >> >>>>>>>>>was not easy.
>Too
>> >far away or too
>> >> >>>>>>>>>close, and the knees screamed at me. I think
>> >> >>>>>>>>>that is why I
>> >probably don't get on
>> >> >>>>>>>>>it now, then hub would have to constantly
>> >> >>>>>>>>>move that seat back
>and
>> >forth. They
>> >> >>>>>>>>>need to incorporate a motorized seat control,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>like they do in
>> >automobiles - would
>> >> >>>>>>>>>be so much easier when having multiple users.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>The treadmill
>was
>> >the perfect
>> >> >>>>>>>>>answer ... for me. I love walking, it's
>> >> >>>>>>>>>relatively pain free
>if
>> >I don't do stupid
>> >> >>>>>>>>>stuff (like hitting the increase speed button
>> >> >>>>>>>>>instead of the
>> >increase incline -
>> >> >>>>>>>>>THAT result was rather interesting this
>> >> >>>>>>>>>morning ... as well as
>> >producing a bit of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>panic). It can be rather boring though, so I
>> >> >>>>>>>>>have to find
>> >something to keep me
>> >> >>>>>>>>>somewhat occupied while I'm on it.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>Joyce
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>Walking to the
>> >U-district
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>(Univ of Washingon is about a mile east)
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>requires crossing
>I-5
>> >which
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>is an assault on the senses as well as
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>walking along busy
>> >streets.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>And crossing north-south is restricted to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>keep the east-west
>> >flow of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>cars unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile loop around
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>the lake is
>actually
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>traffic light free and pretty low-key except
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>at rush hour.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>roll. I'm trying to
>> >decide
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>about the elliptical trainer at work as
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>opposed to the
>> >treadmill. As
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>I found a number of years ago with
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>PROGRAMMED exercise bikes,
>> >the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>resistance is not as natural as real biking,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>even up steep
>> >hills.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>They seem to put more pressure on the knee
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>that I get in real
>> >life on
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>some very steep rides. Same seems to be true
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>for the
>elliptical
>> >and
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>my knees do not like it. I think the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>treadmill may be more
>to
>> >my
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>liking, well, to my knees' liking.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>71F was a new
>record
>> >high
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>for the date. But CLOUDY right now.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>> >> >>>>>>>>>><[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ...
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>I don't like
>doing
>> >so amid heavy
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>traffic and nutsy drivers. Our locale does
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>have sidewalks,
>but
>> >even crossing the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>streets you take your life into your own
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>hands. It never
>> >ceases to amaze me just
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>how unconscious and incondsiderate drivers
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>are around here.
>My
>> >house sits in a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>very quiet neighborhood, and is relatively
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>traffic free -
>other
>> >than those
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>goofballs that have to drive through in a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>hurry to avoid
>> >traffic lights. The
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>problem begins if I travel 1/2 a block to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>the west, 2 blocks
>to
>> >the east, or 3
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>blocks to the north ... all major runways -
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>two of which are
>> >considered state
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>highways. I just need to remember to cross
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>at the
>stoplight,
>> >which is out of my
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>way if heading to the store. It at least
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>gives me a
>fighting
>> >chance.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>warm but not bitter
>> >cold either. This
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>afternoon and evening had some serious
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>gusts blowing
>through -
>> >had my downdraft
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>flap on the stove rattling wildly. That is
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>really a hoot
>and
>> >took me quite some
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>time to figure out what exactly I was
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>hearing. When I am
>> >upstairs, I know what it
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> through the oven.
>> >But when in the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>basement ... it sounds exactly like someone
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>is knocking
>> >ferociously on the door
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>(the exterior flap is only a few feet north
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>and at ceiling
>> >level of the wall the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>treadmill is on. A few weeks ago I kept
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>running up and down
>> >stairs, thinking
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>someone was playing games with me. I was
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>rather slow in
>> >solving the mystery. <G>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>girl was asking me
>> >this morning for
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>excercise advice? LOL! Who woulda ever
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>thought! She has
>> >bought herself an
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>eliptical machine, finally got it up and
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>running last week
>and
>> >wanted some advise
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>on how long she should be using it and how
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>often. She is
>being
>> >incredibly hard on
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>herself because she is only going 20
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>minutes on alternating
>> >days. I told her she
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>really needed to remember that she is also
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>dealing with 2
>small
>> >children and their
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>schedules, just gave birth 2 months ago
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>(and is already back
>to
>> >her pre-pregnancy
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>weight), and starting an exercise routine
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>for the first time
>in
>> >many years. Start
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>slow, work up - my advise in a nutshell.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>We're currently
>> >trying to figure out how
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>to tunnel under the street and connect the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>two basements ...
>> >could have one heck
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>of a gym set up. <G>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Seattle is a pretty
>> >good
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>walking town if you like HILLS!
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>in the mountains I
>> >don't know
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>what they reached. But it was mind-
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>blowingly perfect UP
>> >there.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>figure out how
>(G)
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>><[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>hovering, aren't
>I?
>> ><G>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>isn't it? Wonder
>> >why I didn't think of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>it before. <G> Really, I usually don't as
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>the traffic is
>> >very heavy in this area
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> crazy drivers.
>But
>> >I knew I could use
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>the back entrance and only have to cross
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>on street to get
>to
>> >the park, then it was
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>quiet and peaceful. Hub and I will
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>usually walk this
>route
>> >when we go to the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>bread outlet store - but having to cross
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>the major roads
>does
>> >not enthuse me.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>... was 45F when
>I
>> >was out this morning.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>But it felt like a heat wave compared to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>those 30's. I
>think
>> >they are talking
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>similar temps all week long, but I also
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>believe they have
>no
>> >rain in the forecast.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>THAT's nice for a change.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>even if it was an
>> >upward hover
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>somewhere along the line (G)
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill -
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>amazing, truly
>amazing
>> >(G) Spring
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>is coming here, too. 60F+ and today and
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>closer to 70F
>> >tomorrow (when
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I hope to ski or, at least, hike)
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce <[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dance for me ...
>> >down, down, down all week
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>long ... up today for weigh in. Isn't
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that the way life
>> >always goes? <G> No
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>biggie, todays weight still showed me a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1.3 loss from
>last
>> >week and really did not
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>surprise me at all as I had a very
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>salty meal last nite
>> >which had me drinking mega
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quantities ... and not running to the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>potty. <G> I'll
>> >enjoy knowing that during
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the week I DID see lower numbers and
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>will not allow
>myself
>> >to get worked up over
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nicely I feel. So
>the
>> >official Friday numbers
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>are .......................
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>total loss to date: 98.1 pounds
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for me ... which
>for
>> >most probably isn't a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big deal, but it made me feel good.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Last night hub
>noticed
>> >I had driven a huge
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>screw into the rear tire of one of our
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vehicles, of
>course
>> >the one that sonny boy
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>needs to borrow to head up to the old
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>college campus and
>> >retrieve the last of his
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>possessions. He made an appointment at
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the local repair
>> >place to have it fixed
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>today, called and told me that SIL was
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not working ...
>call
>> >and have him pick me
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>up. Wellllll, I drove the car in, set
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything up and
>> >thought, geeeeeesh, I'm
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>only a few blocks from home, can walk
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>straight through
>the
>> >park, dodging the geese
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... and it IS somewhat of a nice day
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>out ... why call?
>> >I'll probably make it home
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>faster if I walk. So picked my little
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>legs up and off I
>> >went. I have no idea how
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fast I walked, hard to judge without
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that lcd monitor in
>> >front of me <G>, but I
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was home in less than 7 minutes. And I
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>felt terrific.
>> >WooHoo!
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 -
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2/5/02 current weight: 130.7 total
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>loss: 98.1 Lifetime: 4/4/03
>> >>
>> >
>
 
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