"Matt B" <
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> Clive George wrote:
>> "Matt B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> Remind us why an able-bodied person shouldn't use such a car parking
>>> space, yet they can use the special seats on buses and trains
>>
>> Blimey, that's a really impressively stupid request.
>
> Thank-you.
>
>> Because they are obliged to move if a disabled person turns up. You can't
>> do that with car parking spaces, because you're typically nowhere near
>> the car.
>
> If you kept the car within sight, or if you left a lookout with a phone?
Because it'd make the regulations very difficult to enforce, and it would
make it very difficult for disabled people to park. Most people will notice
someone writing a ticket next to their car. Will they notice a disabled
person driving around and around the car park trying to find a parking
space? I doubt it.
>>> and the wide check-outs in supermarkets.
>>
>> Because they aren't intended for exclusive use by people who need the
>> space
>
> Couldn't car parking spaces be the same?
No.
>> - the proportion of customers who actually need it is tiny.
>
> Like the car parking spaces then.
>
>> If somebody who needs to use it arrives at the queue, the number of
>> checkouts is normally such that they aren't disadvantaged compared to
>> others (ie the queue will be the same length),
>
> Ah, like the car parking spaces then.
No, not like car parking spaces. I park my car in a space, nobody else can
use that space. There isn't a system of queuing for spaces - people drive
around until they find a space and park up. If there are no disabled spaces,
the driver is likely to park in the next nearest space to the door, rather
than hobble into the shop and find an assistant to ask the owner of whatever
car's parked in the disabled space to move, then hobble back to their car,
park again, hobble back to the shop etc. Because that's more work than just
parking in any space.
>> so the facility has worked
>
> Exactly.
>
>> - in the same manner as a disabled car parking space enables somebody who
>> has difficulty walking to do things, this has enabled people who need a
>> bit more space to do things.
>
> Except the car parking space is wasted if there is nobody 'qualified' to
> use it - unlike the bus seat or supermarket check-out.
Able bodied people, by definition, shouldn't be unduly troubled by having to
walk a few hundred yards to the shop door. Disabled people, on the other
hand, are. That's why they're disabled. The crucial factor with the bus seat
is that if someone else needs the seat, you are easily aware of it and can
move. With a parking space, that's pretty unlikely.
>> Isn't this all blindingly obvious?
>
> Yes - to me at least. It appears that many have difficulties with this
> concept though.
Do you actually know anybody who's disabled? Once you've seen somebody wince
in pain with every step they take, perhaps you'll understand why disabled
spaces are important and why you shouldn't park in them. Another bloody good
reason for not parking in them is that people with a blue badge are allowed
to park pretty much wherever they like. I personally would much rather they
parked in the disabled spaces in the supermarket than in the middle of the
road, or god forbid, blocking in someone able bodied parking in a disabled
space.
FWIW, you come up with some sane reasoning in the Bike VS Car jihad that
goes on here, but you also seem to be full of ****.
