"JimLane" <
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> > "JimLane" <
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> >>Dave Thompson wrote:
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> >>>"JimLane" <
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> >>>>Dave Thompson wrote:
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> >>>>>"JimLane" <
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> >>>>>>Dave Thompson wrote:
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> >>>>>>>"JimLane" <
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> >>>>>>>>Dave Thompson wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>"Jim A" <
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> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>I don't directly know about their quality either. But I do know
> >
> > for
> >
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>fact that Changda Titanium Products is the sole OEM frameset
> >>>
> >>>supplier
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>to Airborne and they offer a lifetime warranty. And for a fee,
> >
> > they
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>offer tubing options (diameter, shape, and butting) and finish
> >>>
> >>>options
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>(brushed vs bead-blasted). For the price, they may be worth
taking
> >
> > a
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>chance on. I know of a couple of other posters here who have.
And
> >
> > I
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>haven't read any complaints about them, yet.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Sure. I'm going to send $420 to China and *hope* I get something
> >>>
> >>>good.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>might be cute, but I'm not stupid! OEM suppliers often offer many
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>different
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>qualities based on price. No thanks, I don't think I'll take the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>chance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Perhaps you should wait and see what others have experienced
instead
> >>>
> >>>of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>automatically rejecting something because it involves China (a significant emphasis of
> >>>>>>>>yours). Or just get one from Airborne and
> >
> > pay
> >
> >>>an
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>extra hundred or so.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>jim
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Your assumption that I reject sending money, to someone I don't
know,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>for
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>something that hasn't been seen, is an incorrect assumption on your
> >>>>>
> >>>>>part,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>making interpretations about something I never said. It's common
> >>>>>
> >>>>>knowldge
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>that Airborne frames are made in China, and when the poster said
that
> >>>>>>>Changda Titanium Products (being the OEM supplier to Airborne) was
> >>>>>
> >>>>>selling
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>these frames, the logical conclusion is that the frames are from
> >
> > China.
> >
> >>>>>The
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>emphasis that I put in my statement is that who, in their right
mind,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>would
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>send money far away (too any country) for a product that is
unknown.
> >
> > If
> >
> >>>>>>>anyone assumes that this factory would send an exact replica of an
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Airborne
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>product, without the decals, at a significant price differential
has
> >>>>>
> >>>>>rocks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>in their head. Airborne wouldn't stand for it, and I don't think
the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>factory
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>would want to lose such a customer.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Personally I don't give a rip where a product is made, good is good
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>>>bad
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>is bad, whether it's made in Buffalo or Bejing. The fact that you interpreted your own
> >>>>>>>apparent prejudices into my post, well you
> >
> > should
> >
> >>>>>mind
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>your own business!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>You did say this, correct? No assumption on my part. Your own words.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>jim
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>No, you assumed that I rejected this frame because it came from
China.
> >>>>>Nowhere did I state anything resembling a slam on Chinese made
> >
> > products.
> >
> >>>I
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>would have said exactly the same words for exactly the same product
if
> >>>
> >>>it
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>were made in England, Argentina, Germany or Dallas Texas. You made
the
> >>>>>assumption that I was somehow denigrated Chinese products. I wasn't
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>I
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>didn't. You are the one that tried to read in between the lines and
> >
> > come
> >
> >>>up
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>with the China bashing angle. Your prejudices, not mine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>You did not say, "any country," in your original post did you. You specifically pointed to
> >>>>China. Had you made that qualification, I
would
> >>>>not have made my reply.
> >>>>
> >>>>Own up to your own words.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>jim
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Jim:
> >>>
> >>>Last time. I said China because that is where the product is from. No
> >
> > other
> >
> >>>reason. The problem is yours, not mine.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>Hmmm, seems the thread can be summarized:
> >>
> >>You: anyone know about this
> >>
> >>A: Yep, Chinese
> >>
> >>something good. . .
> >>
> >>
> >>Hmmm, seems to support what I read. Now about that imagination of yours. Nothing about any other
> >>country, all you backpedalling excepted.
> >>
> >>
> >>jim
> >
> >
> > It's really interesting that you presume to know what I mean. I've lived
in
> > Hawaii too long to remotely think any of what you are 'putting into my words'. My girlfriend is
> > a second generation Chinese and most of her
family,
> > mother, father, aunts and uncles live in the same neighborhood. I eat
with
> > them, play with them and socialize with them. I really hope you
'funnin'.
> > because if you're not you must be either a politician or a teacher. You
are
> > trying to be too politically correct.
> >
> >
>
> Bottom line from your last:
>
> If I cannot determine what you mean from your written words, YOU have failed to communicate
> effectively. Your words tell me (no presuming nor assuming) that you rejected China as a place to
> send money to to purchase a bike.
>
> The rest is BS.
>
>
> jim
Why the hell would I want to communicate effectively with you? I was looking for a Ti frameset,
which apparently you don't have. Not some politically-correct drivel from someone who has no
interest in doing anything constructive.
