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> "Scott en Aztlán" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:28:25 -0700, [email protected] (Tom Keats)
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> >
> >>> Sorry, but top-posted .signatures are an instant trip into my
> >>> killfile. You have Baxter to thank for that.
> >>
> >>"Conservative Ideals" wasn't replying to you,
> >>so don't worry about it.
>
> Just to clarify the issue - I use Outlook express

>OK, so you're not all that bright - Outhouse Express is a terrible
>newsreader.

It does everything I need it to, and it's free.

>
> Personally I don't see a problem with it

>Of course you don't. If *you* do it, it must be OK, right? I bet you
>chew with your mouth open, belch loudly in public and drive the speed
>limit in the passing lane.

I am sure anyone who knows you would be as surprised as I am to see you
critiquing the manners of anyone else.

 

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> "Scott en Aztlán" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:28:25 -0700, [email protected] (Tom Keats)
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> Sorry, but top-posted .signatures are an instant trip into my
> >>> killfile. You have Baxter to thank for that.
> >>
> >>"Conservative Ideals" wasn't replying to you,
> >>so don't worry about it.
>
> Just to clarify the issue - I use Outlook express

>OK, so you're not all that bright - Outhouse Express is a terrible
>newsreader.

It does everything I need it to, and it's free.

>
> Personally I don't see a problem with it

>Of course you don't. If *you* do it, it must be OK, right? I bet you
>chew with your mouth open, belch loudly in public and drive the speed
>limit in the passing lane.

I am sure anyone who knows you would be as surprised as I am to see you
critiquing the manners of anyone else.

 

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> "Scott en Aztlán" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:28:25 -0700, [email protected] (Tom Keats)
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> Sorry, but top-posted .signatures are an instant trip into my
> >>> killfile. You have Baxter to thank for that.
> >>
> >>"Conservative Ideals" wasn't replying to you,
> >>so don't worry about it.
>
> Just to clarify the issue - I use Outlook express

>OK, so you're not all that bright - Outhouse Express is a terrible
>newsreader.

It does everything I need it to, and it's free.

>
> Personally I don't see a problem with it

>Of course you don't. If *you* do it, it must be OK, right? I bet you
>chew with your mouth open, belch loudly in public and drive the speed
>limit in the passing lane.

I am sure anyone who knows you would be as surprised as I am to see you
critiquing the manners of anyone else.

 

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> "Scott en Aztlán" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:28:25 -0700, [email protected] (Tom Keats)
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> Sorry, but top-posted .signatures are an instant trip into my
> >>> killfile. You have Baxter to thank for that.
> >>
> >>"Conservative Ideals" wasn't replying to you,
> >>so don't worry about it.
>
> Just to clarify the issue - I use Outlook express

>OK, so you're not all that bright - Outhouse Express is a terrible
>newsreader.

It does everything I need it to, and it's free.

>
> Personally I don't see a problem with it

>Of course you don't. If *you* do it, it must be OK, right? I bet you
>chew with your mouth open, belch loudly in public and drive the speed
>limit in the passing lane.

I am sure anyone who knows you would be as surprised as I am to see you
critiquing the manners of anyone else.

 

[Bill Sornson]

Conservative Ideals wrote:
>
> Conservative Ideals wrote:
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>> Visit my Blog "Conservative Ideals" at:
>> http://jaredp.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> "Scott en Aztlán" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:28:25 -0700, [email protected] (Tom
>>> Keats) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sorry, but top-posted .signatures are an instant trip into my
>>>>> killfile. You have Baxter to thank for that.
>>>>
>>>> "Conservative Ideals" wasn't replying to you,
>>>> so don't worry about it.
>>
>> Just to clarify the issue - I use Outlook express
>
>> OK, so you're not all that bright - Outhouse Express is a terrible
>> newsreader.
>
> It does everything I need it to, and it's free.
>
>>
>> Personally I don't see a problem with it
>
>> Of course you don't. If *you* do it, it must be OK, right? I bet
>> you chew with your mouth open, belch loudly in public and drive the
>> speed limit in the passing lane.
>
> I am sure anyone who knows you would be as surprised as I am to see
> you critiquing the manners of anyone else.

That aside, it's just stupid to put a sig at the top of a post. The vast
majority of people (I assume) use Outlook or Express, and /they/ seem to be
able to place their sigs where it makes sense; why can't you?

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"Too often we...enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of
thought."

John F. Kennedy (1917-1963)
U.S. President

 

[Bill Sornson]

Conservative Ideals wrote:
>
> Conservative Ideals wrote:
>> --
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>> http://jaredp.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> "Scott en Aztlán" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:28:25 -0700, [email protected] (Tom
>>> Keats) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sorry, but top-posted .signatures are an instant trip into my
>>>>> killfile. You have Baxter to thank for that.
>>>>
>>>> "Conservative Ideals" wasn't replying to you,
>>>> so don't worry about it.
>>
>> Just to clarify the issue - I use Outlook express
>
>> OK, so you're not all that bright - Outhouse Express is a terrible
>> newsreader.
>
> It does everything I need it to, and it's free.
>
>>
>> Personally I don't see a problem with it
>
>> Of course you don't. If *you* do it, it must be OK, right? I bet
>> you chew with your mouth open, belch loudly in public and drive the
>> speed limit in the passing lane.
>
> I am sure anyone who knows you would be as surprised as I am to see
> you critiquing the manners of anyone else.

That aside, it's just stupid to put a sig at the top of a post. The vast
majority of people (I assume) use Outlook or Express, and /they/ seem to be
able to place their sigs where it makes sense; why can't you?

--
"Too often we...enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of
thought."

John F. Kennedy (1917-1963)
U.S. President

 

[Bill Sornson]

Conservative Ideals wrote:
>
> Conservative Ideals wrote:
>> --
>> Visit my Blog "Conservative Ideals" at:
>> http://jaredp.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> "Scott en Aztlán" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:28:25 -0700, [email protected] (Tom
>>> Keats) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sorry, but top-posted .signatures are an instant trip into my
>>>>> killfile. You have Baxter to thank for that.
>>>>
>>>> "Conservative Ideals" wasn't replying to you,
>>>> so don't worry about it.
>>
>> Just to clarify the issue - I use Outlook express
>
>> OK, so you're not all that bright - Outhouse Express is a terrible
>> newsreader.
>
> It does everything I need it to, and it's free.
>
>>
>> Personally I don't see a problem with it
>
>> Of course you don't. If *you* do it, it must be OK, right? I bet
>> you chew with your mouth open, belch loudly in public and drive the
>> speed limit in the passing lane.
>
> I am sure anyone who knows you would be as surprised as I am to see
> you critiquing the manners of anyone else.

That aside, it's just stupid to put a sig at the top of a post. The vast
majority of people (I assume) use Outlook or Express, and /they/ seem to be
able to place their sigs where it makes sense; why can't you?

--
"Too often we...enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of
thought."

John F. Kennedy (1917-1963)
U.S. President

 

[Tom Keats]

In article <[email protected]>,
"Conservative Ideals" <[email protected]> writes:
>> OK, so you're not all that bright - Outhouse Express is a terrible
>> newsreader.

> It does everything I need it to, and it's free.

FWIW your prefixed .sig doesn't bother me in the least.
But then, I can't be bothered with being picayunely
condescending & critical.

Carry on as per normal, and I wish you and everybody else
a most pleasant day, in which everything goes right.

I guess cycling has mellowed my own (non-Microsoft) outlook.


cheers, & good vibes to all,
Tom

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[Tom Keats]

In article <[email protected]>,
"Conservative Ideals" <[email protected]> writes:
>> OK, so you're not all that bright - Outhouse Express is a terrible
>> newsreader.

> It does everything I need it to, and it's free.

FWIW your prefixed .sig doesn't bother me in the least.
But then, I can't be bothered with being picayunely
condescending & critical.

Carry on as per normal, and I wish you and everybody else
a most pleasant day, in which everything goes right.

I guess cycling has mellowed my own (non-Microsoft) outlook.


cheers, & good vibes to all,
Tom

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-- Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

 

[Tom Keats]

In article <[email protected]>,
"Conservative Ideals" <[email protected]> writes:
>> OK, so you're not all that bright - Outhouse Express is a terrible
>> newsreader.

> It does everything I need it to, and it's free.

FWIW your prefixed .sig doesn't bother me in the least.
But then, I can't be bothered with being picayunely
condescending & critical.

Carry on as per normal, and I wish you and everybody else
a most pleasant day, in which everything goes right.

I guess cycling has mellowed my own (non-Microsoft) outlook.


cheers, & good vibes to all,
Tom

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[Arif Khokar]

Tom Keats wrote:

> After all, we're all just human beans.
^^^^^^
Beans?

 

[Tom Keats]

In article <[email protected]>,
jj<[email protected]> writes:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:05:36 -0700, [email protected] (Tom Keats)
> wrote:
>
>>And although I ride bike,
>>I don't wanna get in your way, and I like it when
>>you don't get in mine. We can get along quite nicely.
>>After all, we're all just human beans. Sometimes we
>>do real good, and sometimes we have brain-farts and
>>we unintentionally screw up. Forgiveness &
>>understanding works good. I dunno. I've seen a lot
>>of rotten behaviours from people on bikes, and people
>>in cars. But I've seen a lot of of nice behaviours
>>from people, too. There /is/ hope for humanity
>
> (Uh, do you realize you're cross-posting to about 5 other groups, Tom? Just
> wondered ...

Yeah, I don't care. It's nice to have people to listen to
and talk with.

> Anyway...I was riding some suburban back roads on Sunday and came up over a
> rise leading to a nice downhill to a four-way stop. In front of me was
> another hill that went up to a dead end.
>
> At the four-way stop you can only get a bird's-eye view of the run-up to
> the other roads from where I was - I could see for several hundred yards on
> all three roads.
>
> So I decide, since it's near the end of my ride to just accelerate down
> this hill and up the other one, kind of give myself a whoop-de-doo. Mind
> you it was a Sunday afternoon and nobody was in sight except this guy
> behind me a few dozen yards.
>
> What does he do? He leans on the horn as I zoom through my stopsign

Ya horrible scofflaw, ya ;-)

> and I
> look in the mirror, wondering what the problem was.

That's just his way of saying: "You're not a car!"

> Well he gets down to
> the four-way and he runs the stop himself, turning right.

Suppose you had come to a complete, foot-down stop, and
the driver was right behind you. I bet he'd have been
fuming, 'cuz you would have been "in his way", and you'd
still have gotten honked-at. Ya just can't win. Of course
if you left him room to eke by on your right so he could
hang his right turn, that might have had an apeasing effect.
OTOH if it's a narrow street, you don't want to be too
close to the middle, or you could get clobbered by drivers
coming off the cross-street. So I'm not finding fault with ya
at all; not by a long-shot. And if you did position yourself
on the road like that, chances are he'd decide he wants to
turn "left", just so he could /still/ complain about you being
in the way. And he wouldn't signal his turn until you're already
committed to your position on the street; in his mind he might
convince himself he had his turn signal on all along, and you
just inconsiderately decided to veer in front of him regardless.
Your anecdote is just another familiar occurrence in the life of
an urban cyclist. It's just razmatazz we have to live with.
Water off a duck's back.

> Maybe he was celebrating with me, but I doubt it. What's the big problem -
> especially since he ran the sign himself. Sheesh.

At least no skin was peeled off anyone's teeth.

Maybe in a fit of sudden anger he'll run-over some curb-hugging,
timidly-riding, letter-of-the-law-abiding rider, to get even
with you. That's why we cyclists must be ticketed for every
crummy li'l infraction we commit. It's for our own good. And
more importantly, it pleases the cagers, to whom we, as inferior
road users, must suck-up, or else they'll kill us like dogs in
the street.


cheers,
Tom

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[Tom Keats]

In article <[email protected]>,
Arif Khokar <[email protected]> writes:
> Tom Keats wrote:
>
>> After all, we're all just human beans.
> ^^^^^^
> Beans?

I have a snaggle-pussed speech imppThThTHThediment,
exascerbated by a vestigal Sussegian (Ticehurst)
accent picked-up from my parents & grandparents,
and mixed with some ethnic Vancouver East-End-ish
and other influences.

I talk funny, that's all.

My grandfather used to refer to Hawaiians as
"'AY-Wee-ens." Took even me a while to figger
that one out. Tell ya this much, though -- ain't
no Scots brogue thicker 'n a rumbling & drawling
bit o' bucolic Sussex verbiage.


cheers,
Tom

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[David W. Poole, Jr.]

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 03:43:24 GMT, Arif Khokar <[email protected]>
was understood to have stated the following:

>Tom Keats wrote:
>
>> After all, we're all just human beans.
> ^^^^^^
>Beans?

Beans, beans, the musical fruit,
the more you eat, the more you poot.

Beans, beans, they're good for your heart,
the more you eat, the more you fart.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[[email protected]]

Conservative Ideals wrote:
>
>
> I am sure anyone who knows you would be as surprised as I am to see you
> critiquing the manners of anyone else.

While I under stand that you mean to imply irony, the reverse is true -
I do not often critique anyone's manners.

Right up until the time they try and defend their ill-mannered
behavior.

But hey, do what makes *you* feel good. After all, *you're* the only
important one.

E.P.

 

[[email protected]]

In article <[email protected]>,
David W. Poole, Jr. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Beans, beans, the musical fruit,
>the more you eat, the more you poot.
>
>Beans, beans, they're good for your heart,
>the more you eat, the more you fart.

Alt version:


Beans, beans, the musical fruit,
the more you eat, the more you toot.

The more you toot, the better you feel,
so let's have beans with every meal.

 

[David W. Poole, Jr.]

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 05:28:26 GMT, [email protected] was understood to have
stated the following:

>
>Alt version:
>
>
>Beans, beans, the musical fruit,
>the more you eat, the more you toot.
>
>The more you toot, the better you feel,
>so let's have beans with every meal.

Had not heard that variation; thanks!

 

[Chuck]

On 2005-07-27, Tom Keats <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Conservative Ideals" <[email protected]> writes:
>>> OK, so you're not all that bright - Outhouse Express is a terrible
>>> newsreader.
>
>> It does everything I need it to, and it's free.
>
> FWIW your prefixed .sig doesn't bother me in the least.
> But then, I can't be bothered with being picayunely
> condescending & critical.
>
> Carry on as per normal, and I wish you and everybody else
> a most pleasant day, in which everything goes right.
>
> I guess cycling has mellowed my own (non-Microsoft) outlook.
>

What's the matter? Don't like uncle Bill and his computer tax?

>

> cheers, & good vibes to all,
> Tom
>