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Dave

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October 29, 2003

Medical system is leading cause of death and injury in US

Shocking statistical evidence is cited by Gary Null PhD, Caroly Dean MD ND,
Martin Feldman MD, Debora Rasio MD and Dorothy Smith PhD in their recent
paper Death by Medicine -October 2003, released by the Nutrition Institute
of America.

"A definitive review and close reading of medical peer-review journals, and
government health statistics shows that American medicine frequently causes
more harm than good. The number of people having in-hospital, adverse drug
reactions (ADR) to prescribed medicine is 2.2 million. Dr. Richard Besser,
of the CDC, in 1995, said the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed
annually for viral infections was 20 million. Dr. Besser, in 2003, now
refers to tens of millions of unnecessary antibiotics. The number of
unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5
million. The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization
annually is 8.9 million. The total number of iatrogenic deaths shown in the
following table is 783,936. It is evident that the American medical system
is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States. The 2001
heart disease annual death rate is 699,697; the annual cancer death rate,
553,251.

Health Care expenditures in the US have reached 14% of the Gross National
Product and a staggering $1.6 trillion in 2003. No wonder, one might be
tempted to say. With such an appalling record of efficacy and such an
unbelievable death rate for the treatments routinely administered, the
current medical system can only be said to be in great need of deep reform.

Certainly it would appear more urgent to investigate the rationale, efficacy
and relative cost-effectiveness of pharmaceutical medicine than to legislate
restrictive rules for supplements of vital nutrients, as most governments
and some international organisations are doing in these times.


The Nutrition Institute of America

October 28, 2003

Deadly Medical Mistakes Exposed

New York, New York - New information has been presented showing the degree
to which Americans have been subjected to injury and death by medical
errors. The results of seven years of research reviewing thousands of
studies conducted by the NIA now show that medical errors are the number one
cause of death and injury in the United States.

According to the NIA's report, over 784,000 people die annually due to
medical mistakes. Comparatively, the 2001 annual death rate for heart
disease was 699,697 and the annual death rate for cancer was 553,251.

Over 2.2 million people are injured every year by prescription drugs alone
and over 20 million unnecessary prescriptions for antibiotics are prescribed
annually for viral infections. The report also shows that 7.5 million
unnecessary medical and surgical procedures are performed every year and 8.9
million people are needlessly hospitalized annually. Based on the results of
NIA's report, it is evident that there is a pressing need for an overhaul of
the entire American medical system.

The findings, described as a "revelation" by Martin Feldman, MD, who helped
to uncover the evidence, are the product of the first comprehensive studies
on iatrogenic incidents. Never before has any study uncovered such a massive
amount of information with regard to iatrogenesis. Historically, only small
individual partial studies have been performed in this area.

Carolyn Dean, MD, a physician and author who also helped to uncover the
findings said, "I was completely shocked, amazed, and dismayed when I first
added up all the statistics on medical death and saw how much allopathic
medicine has betrayed us."

The Nutrition Institute of America is a not-for-profit, non-partisan
organization that has been enlightening the public on health issues for
nearly 30 years.

Download the whole report here.

For more information, contact David Slater, President of NIA at (646) 505 -
4660 x 155.
Alternatively contact: Richard Polonetsky (646)-505-4660 x171
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>October 29, 2003
>
>Medical system is leading cause of death and injury in US
>
>Shocking statistical evidence is cited by Gary Null PhD, Caroly Dean MD ND,
>Martin Feldman MD, Debora Rasio MD and Dorothy Smith PhD in their recent
>paper Death by Medicine -October 2003, released by the Nutrition Institute
>of America.


There may be more than one organization by this name, but I found this
on the web site for the State of Missouri:

Nutrition Institute of America

1524 Crystal
Kansas City, MO 64126
(816) 241-8315

Year Established - 1993
Accreditation - none
2002 Enrollments - 9

I believe this institution is affiliated with the New York-based
outfit that published the "shocking statistical evidence." Which I
couldn't evaluate, because I couldn't find a copy of the article.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
Nutrition Institute of America, Inc.
P.O. Box 918
Planetarium Station
New York, NY 10024


"David Wright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> >October 29, 2003
> >
> >Medical system is leading cause of death and injury in US
> >
> >Shocking statistical evidence is cited by Gary Null PhD, Caroly Dean MD

ND,
> >Martin Feldman MD, Debora Rasio MD and Dorothy Smith PhD in their recent
> >paper Death by Medicine -October 2003, released by the Nutrition

Institute
> >of America.

>
> There may be more than one organization by this name, but I found this
> on the web site for the State of Missouri:
>
> Nutrition Institute of America
>
> 1524 Crystal
> Kansas City, MO 64126
> (816) 241-8315
>
> Year Established - 1993
> Accreditation - none
> 2002 Enrollments - 9
>
> I believe this institution is affiliated with the New York-based
> outfit that published the "shocking statistical evidence." Which I
> couldn't evaluate, because I couldn't find a copy of the article.
>
> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
> These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
> "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
> were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
>
>
>
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Nutrition Institute of America, Inc.
>P.O. Box 918
>Planetarium Station
>New York, NY 10024


As a mailing address for donations, yes. But they also claim to be
educationally certified by the authorities in Missouri, and some of
the phone numbers overlap.

Everything I said below stands.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)



>"David Wright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >October 29, 2003
>> >
>> >Medical system is leading cause of death and injury in US
>> >
>> >Shocking statistical evidence is cited by Gary Null PhD, Caroly Dean MD

>ND,
>> >Martin Feldman MD, Debora Rasio MD and Dorothy Smith PhD in their recent
>> >paper Death by Medicine -October 2003, released by the Nutrition

>Institute
>> >of America.

>>
>> There may be more than one organization by this name, but I found this
>> on the web site for the State of Missouri:
>>
>> Nutrition Institute of America
>>
>> 1524 Crystal
>> Kansas City, MO 64126
>> (816) 241-8315
>>
>> Year Established - 1993
>> Accreditation - none
>> 2002 Enrollments - 9
>>
>> I believe this institution is affiliated with the New York-based
>> outfit that published the "shocking statistical evidence." Which I
>> couldn't evaluate, because I couldn't find a copy of the article.
 
I would submit that statistics will show that the majority of people who
die in the US have been treated by a doctor.

Dave wrote:
> October 29, 2003
>
> Medical system is leading cause of death and injury in US
>
> Shocking statistical evidence is cited by Gary Null PhD, Caroly Dean MD ND,
> Martin Feldman MD, Debora Rasio MD and Dorothy Smith PhD in their recent
> paper Death by Medicine -October 2003, released by the Nutrition Institute
> of America.
>
> "A definitive review and close reading of medical peer-review journals, and
> government health statistics shows that American medicine frequently causes
> more harm than good. The number of people having in-hospital, adverse drug
> reactions (ADR) to prescribed medicine is 2.2 million. Dr. Richard Besser,
> of the CDC, in 1995, said the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed
> annually for viral infections was 20 million. Dr. Besser, in 2003, now
> refers to tens of millions of unnecessary antibiotics. The number of
> unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5
> million. The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization
> annually is 8.9 million. The total number of iatrogenic deaths shown in the
> following table is 783,936. It is evident that the American medical system
> is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States. The 2001
> heart disease annual death rate is 699,697; the annual cancer death rate,
> 553,251.
>
> Health Care expenditures in the US have reached 14% of the Gross National
> Product and a staggering $1.6 trillion in 2003. No wonder, one might be
> tempted to say. With such an appalling record of efficacy and such an
> unbelievable death rate for the treatments routinely administered, the
> current medical system can only be said to be in great need of deep reform.
>
> Certainly it would appear more urgent to investigate the rationale, efficacy
> and relative cost-effectiveness of pharmaceutical medicine than to legislate
> restrictive rules for supplements of vital nutrients, as most governments
> and some international organisations are doing in these times.
>
>
> The Nutrition Institute of America
>
> October 28, 2003
>
> Deadly Medical Mistakes Exposed
>
> New York, New York - New information has been presented showing the degree
> to which Americans have been subjected to injury and death by medical
> errors. The results of seven years of research reviewing thousands of
> studies conducted by the NIA now show that medical errors are the number one
> cause of death and injury in the United States.
>
> According to the NIA's report, over 784,000 people die annually due to
> medical mistakes. Comparatively, the 2001 annual death rate for heart
> disease was 699,697 and the annual death rate for cancer was 553,251.
>
> Over 2.2 million people are injured every year by prescription drugs alone
> and over 20 million unnecessary prescriptions for antibiotics are prescribed
> annually for viral infections. The report also shows that 7.5 million
> unnecessary medical and surgical procedures are performed every year and 8.9
> million people are needlessly hospitalized annually. Based on the results of
> NIA's report, it is evident that there is a pressing need for an overhaul of
> the entire American medical system.
>
> The findings, described as a "revelation" by Martin Feldman, MD, who helped
> to uncover the evidence, are the product of the first comprehensive studies
> on iatrogenic incidents. Never before has any study uncovered such a massive
> amount of information with regard to iatrogenesis. Historically, only small
> individual partial studies have been performed in this area.
>
> Carolyn Dean, MD, a physician and author who also helped to uncover the
> findings said, "I was completely shocked, amazed, and dismayed when I first
> added up all the statistics on medical death and saw how much allopathic
> medicine has betrayed us."
>
> The Nutrition Institute of America is a not-for-profit, non-partisan
> organization that has been enlightening the public on health issues for
> nearly 30 years.
>
> Download the whole report here.
>
> For more information, contact David Slater, President of NIA at (646) 505 -
> 4660 x 155.
> Alternatively contact: Richard Polonetsky (646)-505-4660 x171
>
>
 
>Subject: Re: Zzz Scientific review of American Medicine
>From: Say not the Struggle nought Availeth [email protected]
>Date: 11/3/2003 12:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]>


>I would submit that statistics will show that the majority of people who
>die in the US have been treated by a doctor.


so???? your point being that if one suffers a heart attack or has breast cancer
.....IF they die it is due to seeing a doctor??

yikes....
hawki
 
'tis a reply to the original post. (ie the use of exaggeration to
demonstrate absurdity)
j

My personal opinion is that I hope doctors are knee-deep around me when
I die.

Hawki63 wrote:
>>Subject: Re: Zzz Scientific review of American Medicine
>>From: Say not the Struggle nought Availeth [email protected]
>>Date: 11/3/2003 12:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <[email protected]>

>
>
>>I would submit that statistics will show that the majority of people who
>>die in the US have been treated by a doctor.

>
>
> so???? your point being that if one suffers a heart attack or has breast cancer
> ....IF they die it is due to seeing a doctor??
>
> yikes....
> hawki
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Hawki63 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Subject: Re: Zzz Scientific review of American Medicine
>>From: Say not the Struggle nought Availeth [email protected]
>>Date: 11/3/2003 12:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <[email protected]>

>
>>I would submit that statistics will show that the majority of people who
>>die in the US have been treated by a doctor.

>
>so???? your point being that if one suffers a heart attack or has
>breast cancer ....IF they die it is due to seeing a doctor??


I think "say not" was being sarcastic, hawki.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
>Subject: Re: Zzz Scientific review of American Medicine
>From: [email protected] (David Wright)
>Date: 11/3/2003 7:30 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]>


>I think "say not" was being sarcastic, hawki.


thanks David

yikes I am so used to absurd notions here...that I often overlook one of the
debunkers!!


hawki
 
"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...


What do you expect from those so-called medical GPs who are not even
capable of
understanding the cause of a simple 'sore-throat' problem, let alone,
in understanding the more serious illness such as, cancer and so on...

In dealing with those modern-days sicknesses ie. hepatitis or aids,
needless to say, it is still a long long way to go for medical science
in finding a cure to treat these modern days sicknesses.

Only persom, alternative healer such as, Danny Yang, an asian holistic
physician, the world ONLY Authority on viruses is able to deal with
these modern days sicknesses. LOL..LOL..LOL...



> October 29, 2003
>
> Medical system is leading cause of death and injury in US
>
> Shocking statistical evidence is cited by Gary Null PhD, Caroly Dean MD ND,
> Martin Feldman MD, Debora Rasio MD and Dorothy Smith PhD in their recent
> paper Death by Medicine -October 2003, released by the Nutrition Institute
> of America.
>
> "A definitive review and close reading of medical peer-review journals, and
> government health statistics shows that American medicine frequently causes
> more harm than good. The number of people having in-hospital, adverse drug
> reactions (ADR) to prescribed medicine is 2.2 million. Dr. Richard Besser,
> of the CDC, in 1995, said the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed
> annually for viral infections was 20 million. Dr. Besser, in 2003, now
> refers to tens of millions of unnecessary antibiotics. The number of
> unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5
> million. The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization
> annually is 8.9 million. The total number of iatrogenic deaths shown in the
> following table is 783,936. It is evident that the American medical system
> is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States. The 2001
> heart disease annual death rate is 699,697; the annual cancer death rate,
> 553,251.
>
> Health Care expenditures in the US have reached 14% of the Gross National
> Product and a staggering $1.6 trillion in 2003. No wonder, one might be
> tempted to say. With such an appalling record of efficacy and such an
> unbelievable death rate for the treatments routinely administered, the
> current medical system can only be said to be in great need of deep reform.
>
> Certainly it would appear more urgent to investigate the rationale, efficacy
> and relative cost-effectiveness of pharmaceutical medicine than to legislate
> restrictive rules for supplements of vital nutrients, as most governments
> and some international organisations are doing in these times.
>
>
> The Nutrition Institute of America
>
> October 28, 2003
>
> Deadly Medical Mistakes Exposed
>
> New York, New York - New information has been presented showing the degree
> to which Americans have been subjected to injury and death by medical
> errors. The results of seven years of research reviewing thousands of
> studies conducted by the NIA now show that medical errors are the number one
> cause of death and injury in the United States.
>
> According to the NIA's report, over 784,000 people die annually due to
> medical mistakes. Comparatively, the 2001 annual death rate for heart
> disease was 699,697 and the annual death rate for cancer was 553,251.
>
> Over 2.2 million people are injured every year by prescription drugs alone
> and over 20 million unnecessary prescriptions for antibiotics are prescribed
> annually for viral infections. The report also shows that 7.5 million
> unnecessary medical and surgical procedures are performed every year and 8.9
> million people are needlessly hospitalized annually. Based on the results of
> NIA's report, it is evident that there is a pressing need for an overhaul of
> the entire American medical system.
>
> The findings, described as a "revelation" by Martin Feldman, MD, who helped
> to uncover the evidence, are the product of the first comprehensive studies
> on iatrogenic incidents. Never before has any study uncovered such a massive
> amount of information with regard to iatrogenesis. Historically, only small
> individual partial studies have been performed in this area.
>
> Carolyn Dean, MD, a physician and author who also helped to uncover the
> findings said, "I was completely shocked, amazed, and dismayed when I first
> added up all the statistics on medical death and saw how much allopathic
> medicine has betrayed us."
>
> The Nutrition Institute of America is a not-for-profit, non-partisan
> organization that has been enlightening the public on health issues for
> nearly 30 years.
>
> Download the whole report here.
>
> For more information, contact David Slater, President of NIA at (646) 505 -
> 4660 x 155.
> Alternatively contact: Richard Polonetsky (646)-505-4660 x171
 
yansimon52 wrote:
> "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...


> Only persom, alternative healer such as, Danny Yang, an asian holistic
> physician, the world ONLY Authority on viruses is able to deal with
> these modern days sicknesses. LOL..LOL..LOL...


Megalomanic ******!........goes hand in hand with **** drinking I
suppose.
 
dickinson <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> yansimon52 wrote:
> > "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...

>
> > Only persom, alternative healer such as, Danny Yang, an asian holistic
> > physician, the world ONLY Authority on viruses is able to deal with
> > these modern days sicknesses. LOL..LOL..LOL...

>
> Megalomanic ******!........goes hand in hand with **** drinking I
> suppose.
>


This pervert is actually worse than just your average ****-boy. He advocates
drinking the **** of children!

yansimon52 <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (Leah Lidtorf) wrote in message

news:<[email protected]>...
> > Drink your urine and cancer and all other diseases will vanish forever !

>
>
> May I correct your poster!
>
> Yes, drinking urine is healthy, provided that, the urine come from
> infant!!
>




--

Robert Bronsing

Can't you see?
It all makes perfect sense,
expressed in dollars and cents, pounds, shillings and pence

(R. Waters)
 
Your one-sided demolition of Simon Yan has side step
the fact that cancer remain the No. 1 killer in your
part of the world which boast the most advanced medical
skill in the world.

"Bronsing" <[email protected]> wrote:
> This pervert is actually worse than just your average ****-boy. He advocates
> drinking the **** of children!
 
globalise <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Your one-sided demolition of Simon Yan has side step
> the fact that cancer remain the No. 1 killer in your
> part of the world which boast the most advanced medical
> skill in the world.
>

Please provide evidence that a) cancer would react in any way to the
ingestion of urine and b) that infantile urine would have a better effect
than adult urine. Moreover, cancer is not the no. 1 killer in "my part of
the world" (CVD is). Everybody is willing to listen to and consider
plausible alternatives to the present spectrum of cancer treatments,
drinking **** is not such a plausible alternative.

--

Robert Bronsing

Can't you see?
It all makes perfect sense,
expressed in dollars and cents, pounds, shillings and pence

(R. Waters)
 
Dave,

While I am all in favor of "alternative medicine" and
don't think much of our conventional medical system, I
find this writing totally unfair in it's inclusion of
"unnecessary" medical procedures. "Unnecessary" does
not imply hazardous. Something can be unnecessary and
still advantageous, as are most of the food supplements
I take.

If we are seeking the truth about the medical
establishment, hopefully in order to enable some
improvements therein, it is counterproductive to
proclaim only one side of the story with such obvious
bias as I see here. When I see this kind of muddy
logic, it causes me to doubt that any of the statistics
quoted have any validity whatsoever. Much of what you
write is probably true, but it lacks credibility when
presented in this fashion.

Marvin L. Zinn
Reply to: [email protected]
Using Virtual Access
Windows 2000 build 2600
 
Cancer not the No. 1 killer in the western world? Oh dear
I need to re-read some more articles. Just because you have
never heard of urine drinking, doesn't mean it does not exist.
It is a traditional practice in China, although education take
its toll on such "backwardness". There can never be evidence for
traditional medicine. (However a Singapore study has produced some
startling "evidence" that chinese herbs are indeed what they are
intended to cure). Also only urine from "virgin" boys is effective,
well not for cancer cure, but for most illnessese.



Bronsing wrote:
> Please provide evidence that a) cancer would react in any way to the
> ingestion of urine and b) that infantile urine would have a better effect
> than adult urine. Moreover, cancer is not the no. 1 killer in "my part of
> the world" (CVD is). Everybody is willing to listen to and consider
> plausible alternatives to the present spectrum of cancer treatments,
> drinking **** is not such a plausible alternative.
>
> --
>
> Robert Bronsing
>
> Can't you see?
> It all makes perfect sense,
> expressed in dollars and cents, pounds, shillings and pence
>
> (R. Waters)
>
>
>
 
globalise <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Cancer not the No. 1 killer in the western world? Oh dear
> I need to re-read some more articles.


Absolutely you need to read a lot more articles.

> Just because you have
> never heard of urine drinking, doesn't mean it does not exist.


Who said I'd never heard of it? Noone. I said that it is extremely unlikely
that bodily waste will help you fight cancer, and it's disgusting.

> It is a traditional practice in China, although education take
> its toll on such "backwardness".


That's fine. No tell me if urine therapy can be shown to have a positive
effect on cancer. If you can't, your are promoting a likely useless and
therefore dangerous practice. Anecdote doesn't help. Show me figures, along
with the lab work showing the cyto-static properties of urine.

> There can never be evidence for
> traditional medicine.


That's rubbish. Also traditional medicine can be tested rigorously. That's
how Atemissia annua became of interest to pharmaceutical science, because it
was used in traditional medicine. In fact, many traditional modes of
therapy are (being) tested by science and many herbs (herbs especially) are
now either the drug or the basis for a drug.

> (However a Singapore study has produced some
> startling "evidence" that chinese herbs are indeed what they are
> intended to cure).


Where exactly did I claim or imply that herbs are useless? Oh, that's right,
I didn't. This is about UT, not phytotherapy.


> Also only urine from "virgin" boys is effective,
> well not for cancer cure, but for most illnessese.


Oh? But your guru Yang (incidently the ONLY authority on viruses, according
to his own megalomanic signature) claims that it is to cure cancer, and now
you go on to say it's not. How can that be? Could it be because all that
there is to UT, is a bunch anecdotes without any real basis? And, why boys
and not girls? And why "virgin"? Could it be because adding such a magical
quality is good for the placebo effect?


--

Robert Bronsing

Can't you see?
It all makes perfect sense,
expressed in dollars and cents, pounds, shillings and pence

(R. Waters)
 
In article <[email protected]>,
globalise <[email protected]> wrote:
>Cancer not the No. 1 killer in the western world? Oh dear
>I need to re-read some more articles.


You sure do. At least in the United States, heart disease kills more
people than cancer, by a significant margin.

>Just because you have
>never heard of urine drinking, doesn't mean it does not exist.


I've heard of it. It's still a silly idea.

>It is a traditional practice in China, although education take
>its toll on such "backwardness". There can never be evidence for
>traditional medicine.


Of course there can be. What color is the sky on your planet?

>(However a Singapore study has produced some
>startling "evidence" that chinese herbs are indeed what they are
>intended to cure). Also only urine from "virgin" boys is effective,
>well not for cancer cure, but for most illnessese.


Hmm, now I see that you are just a garden variety lunatic.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
"dickinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> yansimon52 wrote:
> > "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...

>
> > Only persom, alternative healer such as, Danny Yang, an asian holistic
> > physician, the world ONLY Authority on viruses is able to deal with
> > these modern days sicknesses. LOL..LOL..LOL...

>
> Megalomanic ******!..


I guess so... Is this a medical condition?