Another Motorist-Hating Freak, But At Least He Admits It



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Nuxx Bar

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"I hate cars. If I ever get any power again, I'll ban the lot."
Ken Livingstone, 1988

And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no
anti-motorist measures whatsoever. ROTFL. The ******** that they
have to come out with to maintain the lie. Is it really worth it?
 
On 26 Feb, 14:52, Nuxx Bar <[email protected]> wrote:
> "I hate cars. If I ever get any power again, I'll ban the lot."
> Ken Livingstone, 1988
>
> And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no
> anti-motorist measures whatsoever.  ROTFL.  The ******** that they
> have to come out with to maintain the lie.  Is it really worth it?

Could you source that quote please?

I seem to recall it's a third-hand account of a conversation, Ken has
denied ever saying any such thing.

What's your source please?

A direct source to Ken saying that, I mean, not a third hand account?

Why, by the way, have you ignored the responses to your questions on
the two other threads you started??
 
Nuxx Bar said the following on 26/02/2008 14:52:

> And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no
> anti-motorist measures whatsoever.

Despite what some people seem to think, London isn't the whole of the UK
so Ken Livingstone has no power outside that small area.

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/
 
"And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no
> anti-motorist measures whatsoever. "


Nope, quite a few people asked you what these "anti-motorist measures
" actually are.


You declined to answer and instead started another thread claiming
that what you refuse to define doesn't exist.
 
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:10:28 -0800 (PST), spindrift wrote:

> "And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no
>> anti-motorist measures whatsoever. "
>
>
> Nope, quite a few people asked you what these "anti-motorist measures
> " actually are.
>
>
> You declined to answer and instead started another thread claiming
> that what you refuse to define doesn't exist.

Careful with the attibutions there...a little too much snipping, I think.
 
interlude: quote from Bobby aka nuxx bar on UK.rec:

"F*ck the f*ck off, you f*cking w*nking t*at-c*nt-sh*t-c*ck.

And what gives you the idea that you have some kind of right to tell
me what to do all the time? Are you into kinky discipline bondage type
stuff?
Got your whip, big boy?

You're perilously close to being permanently ignored by me. And if
you "don't care", how about showing that you don't by not replying to
my threads in the first place? Thought not. "

End quote.

I think his meds are wearing off. Should he be allowed to drive with
that sort of temper?


That's exactly what Smith did when he was last over on Cycling +. He
responded similarly to someone when he felt that he was being told
what to do.

That's the core of the SS. And they'll all do it if you work them
right. It's a site started by and supported largely by people with a
problem with authority, who don't like being told what to do.

That's the real agenda. Petulant spoiled brats with anger management
issues.
 
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), Nuxx Bar
<[email protected]> said in
<24966046-3d0b-40b0-a355-9e77891c161d@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>:

>And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no
>anti-motorist measures whatsoever

Actually, no, the troll says that there *are* such measures but
refuses to identify them. We simply keep asking what they are.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
 
On Feb 26, 3:26 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), Nuxx Bar
> <[email protected]> said in
> <24966046-3d0b-40b0-a355-9e77891c1...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no
> >anti-motorist measures whatsoever
>
> Actually, no, the troll says that there *are* such measures but
> refuses to identify them. We simply keep asking what they are.

I've said repeatedly that I will do it, to humour you trolls, but that
you know what they are anyway, and that you're lying when you say
otherwise. You can say "You haven't done it yet" as much as you want,
it just makes you look impatient.

Anyway, I know exactly what you'll do when I list them. You'll deny
that they're anti-motorist measures at all. You trolls are SO BORING
AND PREDICTABLE. So excuse me if I don't rush to put together the
list, because it will just invite more lies and nonsense.

*Yawn*
 
"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), Nuxx Bar
> <[email protected]> said in
> <24966046-3d0b-40b0-a355-9e77891c161d@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>:
>
>>And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no
>>anti-motorist measures whatsoever
>
> Actually, no, the troll says that there *are* such measures but
> refuses to identify them. We simply keep asking what they are.
>
> Guy
Perhaps he's given his answers in a _motoring_ ng. ;-)
 
On Feb 26, 3:18 pm, spindrift <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's the core of the SS. And they'll all do it if you work them
> right. It's a site started by and supported largely by people with a
> problem with authority, who don't like being told what to do.

And there we have yet another lie from Spindrift. No Safe Speed
member that I know of has a problem with motorists requiring licences,
insurance, or a raft of other things. Some people (myself included)
would like a requirement to retake the driving test every 10 years.
We don't have a problem with the vast majority of driving laws in
fact. We're quite happy with anything that really enhances safety.
But not things which do the opposite, like cameras.

Are you now going to retract that lie?

> That's the real agenda. Petulant spoiled brats with anger management
> issues.

There he goes slandering people again. It's the refusal to publicly
admit that Paul Smith genuinely wanted safer roads which makes it
obvious what you and your fellow trolls are up to. And the "real
agenda" thing is rich, considering that your real agenda is to stop
everyone driving. Freak.
 
On Feb 26, 3:18 pm, spindrift <[email protected]> wrote:
> the SS

And you're still equating us to Nazis I see. Do you hypocritically do
*everything* that you accuse others of?
 
"Nuxx Bar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:d2004b6b-1423-44c4-9c05-b8bac6357941@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 26, 3:26 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), Nuxx Bar
>> <[email protected]> said in
>> <24966046-3d0b-40b0-a355-9e77891c1...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>:
>>
>> >And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no
>> >anti-motorist measures whatsoever
>>
>> Actually, no, the troll says that there *are* such measures but
>> refuses to identify them. We simply keep asking what they are.
>
> I've said repeatedly that I will do it, to humour you trolls, but that
> you know what they are anyway, and that you're lying when you say
> otherwise. You can say "You haven't done it yet" as much as you want,
> it just makes you look impatient.
>
Oooh, you're SUCH a tease.
 
On Feb 26, 3:04 pm, spindrift <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 26 Feb, 14:52, Nuxx Bar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "I hate cars. If I ever get any power again, I'll ban the lot."
> > Ken Livingstone, 1988
>
> > And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no
> > anti-motorist measures whatsoever. ROTFL. The ******** that they
> > have to come out with to maintain the lie. Is it really worth it?
>
> Could you source that quote please?

The Conservative Party, so obviously it can't possibly be true.
Bloody Conservatives with their non-motorist-hating.

> I seem to recall it's a third-hand account of a conversation, Ken has
> denied ever saying any such thing.

He slipped up, realised that he'd done so, and lied about having ever
said it. He realised that rule number one of being a motorist-hater
is to deny, deny, deny, because it's indefensible. And it comes to no
surprise that even he uses the "I own a car so I can't have an anti-
motorist agenda" line.

Can I just confirm what you think: do you believe that TfL have no
wish whatsoever to discourage motorists by implementing anti-motorist
measures on their roads? You don't need a list of measures which I
consider anti-motorist (or rather which are anti-motorist), because
I'm asking for *your* opinion. Do you believe that TfL have an anti-
motorist agenda or not? Do you believe that there are any anti-
motorist measures (i.e. things which have been put there primarily to
make things harder for drivers) in London?

> Why, by the way, have you ignored the responses to your questions on
> the two other threads you started??

I've posted plenty of times in both threads, and I've replied to you
far more times than you deserve. Do you expect me to reply to every
single person? If a troll posts nothing of substance and/or repeats
something that I've already answered/discredited, they're going to be
waiting a long time for a response.
 
On Feb 26, 3:18 pm, spindrift <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think his meds are wearing off

Here we go again with the hypocrisy. If we did a poll of all Internet
users who had heard of you, what percentage do you reckon would think
that you had mental problems? How about the number that would think
you were a heavy drug user? I can hold down a job quite happily.
You, quite obviously, can't. Presumably there's some reason for that.

Talking of hypocrisy, since you're so keen on me answering every
single question that people ask me, I'm sure you won't want to duck
this like you've already done once:

- Have you ever been in a mental hospital? Have you ever received any
therapy or medication in connection with your mental health?

I'm not answering any more of your points until you answer those
questions.
 
On Feb 26, 4:46 pm, Nuxx Bar <[email protected]> wrote:

> Anyway, I know exactly what you'll do when I list them.  You'll deny
> that they're anti-motorist measures at all.  You trolls are SO BORING
> AND PREDICTABLE.  

But right.

--
Dave...
 
On Feb 26, 3:04 pm, spindrift <[email protected]> wrote:
> Why, by the way, have you ignored the responses to your questions on
> the two other threads you started??

Another question for you, which you MUST ANSWER:

- You are notorious for your forum and usenet posts regarding injury
collisions between cyclists and motor vehicles which have made the
news. Have you *ever* apportioned blame to the cyclist, and not the
driver, in such a post?
 
Nuxx Bar <[email protected]> wrote:

> "I hate cars. If I ever get any power again, I'll ban the lot."
> Ken Livingstone, 1988
>
> And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no
> anti-motorist measures whatsoever.

Many of us have said nothing of the sort. We've asked you to name some
anti-motorist measures.

Cheers,
Luke

--
Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>
 
Nuxx Bar <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Feb 26, 3:26 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), Nuxx Bar
> > <[email protected]> said in
> > <24966046-3d0b-40b0-a355-9e77891c1...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>:
> >
> > >And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no
> > >anti-motorist measures whatsoever
> >
> > Actually, no, the troll says that there *are* such measures but
> > refuses to identify them. We simply keep asking what they are.
>
> I've said repeatedly that I will do it, to humour you trolls,

At least one person in this thread finds you extremely funny.

> You can say "You haven't done it yet" as much as you want,
> it just makes you look impatient.

The word is 'keen'. I'm on tenterhooks. It's like waiting for my
birthday. Except that I know that my birthday will happen. Also, I
rather expect my birthday to be rather better.

> Anyway, I know exactly what you'll do when I list them. You'll deny
> that they're anti-motorist measures at all.

I promise you that I won't.

Cheers,
Luke


--
Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>
 
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:46:25 -0800 (PST), Nuxx Bar
<[email protected]> said in
<d2004b6b-1423-44c4-9c05-b8bac6357941@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>:

>I've said repeatedly that I will do it, to humour you trolls, but that
>you know what they are anyway, and that you're lying when you say
>otherwise. You can say "You haven't done it yet" as much as you want,
>it just makes you look impatient.

Um, no, it makes us look puzzled, because despite your repeated and
increasingly hysterical assertions we can't identify the supposed
measures of which you speak, despite most of us being motorists
ourselves.

And it makes you look like an idiot, but I suspect that you manage
that quite unaided, and for obvious reasons.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
 
On Feb 26, 5:59 pm, [email protected] (Ekul
Namsob) wrote:
> Nuxx Bar <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Feb 26, 3:26 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), Nuxx Bar
> > > <[email protected]> said in
> > > <24966046-3d0b-40b0-a355-9e77891c1...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > > >And the trolls say that London, indeed the whole of the UK, has no
> > > >anti-motorist measures whatsoever
>
> > > Actually, no, the troll says that there *are* such measures but
> > > refuses to identify them. We simply keep asking what they are.
>
> > I've said repeatedly that I will do it, to humour you trolls,
>
> At least one person in this thread finds you extremely funny.
>
> > You can say "You haven't done it yet" as much as you want,
> > it just makes you look impatient.
>
> The word is 'keen'. I'm on tenterhooks. It's like waiting for my
> birthday. Except that I know that my birthday will happen. Also, I
> rather expect my birthday to be rather better.
>
> > Anyway, I know exactly what you'll do when I list them. You'll deny
> > that they're anti-motorist measures at all.
>
> I promise you that I won't.

Tell you what then. To show that you're serious, please name at least
three measures that exist in the UK which you consider to be anti-
motorist. I will list my (and many other people's) anti-motorist
measures within 72 hours of you doing so. I don't see why I should do
all the work, just so that the trolls can dance around shrieking
"You're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong" without providing any
insight or making any real points themselves.

And plenty of the trolls will deny that any of the measures are anti-
motorist. Hell, at least one has already done it on this thread,
before I've even named any. They would deny that the BBC was a
broadcasting corporation if they thought that to admit it would lose
them an argument. Their ridiculous lying really is the most pathetic
and transparent of tactics. But it does show that it's all they have
left. Once their lies are exposed, it's game, set and match to the
sensible people who realise that motorists have every right not to be
bullied.

Truth will out.
 
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