Got my new KH saddle........



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Well I got my new saddle yesterday and it is a newer
revision than the one that broke. Feels stiffer....granted
it is new. There is a lot more of a cusioning effect that my
old seat, as a matter of fact I sink into this seat so much
that I had to raise my seat post height a little bit. Only
thing I don't like is that the seat material is different.
My original seat was made of a leather like material and
this new seat is made of a thin nylon material. Maybe I'm
just not used to it yet and I did only ride it in the
driveway for a few minutes last night but the nylon seems to
create more fiction between your legs and the seat than the
old leather material does. Plus it just looks cheaper, looks
like a way to save a few pennies. I could be wrong but the
new material looks like it'd be much easier to rip than the
leather material. Anyhow, I am going on a rugged 7+ mile
ride today after work (if the thunderstorms cooperate) so
I'll give a more fair and balanced opinion tonight after
some good trail time in the saddle.

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i'd like to say a toast to you,

may you and your unicycle have many happy rides together
experiencing the comfort and style of the KH Velo seat, just
let the phrase the Velo seat slip off your tounge...:)

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After a 7.5 mile ride on rooty, rocky trail with a nice
little mix of north shore and recant any and all negative
comments I had about the new seat! The new revision of the
KH saddle is a huge improvement over my old KH seat. :D I
can't wait to see what's in store with the model that will
be released later on this year!

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zod wrote:
> *After a 7.5 mile ride on rooty, rocky trail with a nice
> little mix of north shore and recant any and all negative
> comments I had about the new seat!*

Hmm....that didn't make a lot of sense.... :D I think
ya'll get what I was saying though......I recant all my
negative comments.

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Well my United came with a KH saddle so other than the
cheapo saddles that you get when you first buy a Sun (the
uni I'm sure most of us have learned on) it's the only
saddle I've road. I like the look of those Myita saddles.
Anyone recomend buying one? Also is there any saddle better
than a KH?

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Do all the improvements and modifications mean we all have
to turn into those old people who trade in for a new Lincoln
every year?

I got my KH saddle about six months ago. Do I have a good
one or not? Seems comfortable enough to me.

Raphael Lasar Matawan, NJ

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Did you get a KH signature seat or one of the off-brand
seats? Some of the off-brand KH style seats, like the
Torker, are using a thinner nylon style covering. I haven't
seen the newest batch of KH signature seats so I don't know
what kind of covering they're using now.

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john_childs wrote:
> *Did you get a KH signature seat or one of the off-brand
> seats? Some of the off-brand KH style seats*
I got the one that came with the Yuni freestyle uni with the
hookworm tire as of late last year. From Unicycle.com.

By off-brand do you mean knock-offs? Can I get one of those
outside of Bloomingdales?

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JJuggle wrote:
> *I got the one that came with the Yuni freestyle uni with
> the hookworm tire as of late last year. From Unicycle.com.
>
> By off-brand do you mean knock-offs? Can I get one of
> those outside of Bloomingdales?
>
> Raphael Lasar Matawan, NJ *

Off-brand are the ones without the Kris Holm signature.
They're the Torker's and the Vello, and others. The KH
signature seats are going to be the best quality ones and
have the more expensive fabric options. The off-brand ones
can choose thinner seat cover material and make other
choices to lower cost.

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john_childs wrote:
> * The KH signature seats are going to be the best quality
> ones and have the more expensive fabric options. The off-
> brand ones can choose thinner seat cover material and make
> other choices to lower cost. *
but what Zod is saying here is that he has a new KH
signature seat that has a thinner/cheaper fabric anyway...

(yes it has the KH sinature)

i know what he is talking about too since ive seen one first
hand.its like a thin almost spandex type material.not at all
like the vinyl on the older ones.

(yes it has the KH sinature)

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JJuggle wrote:
> *Do all the improvements and modifications mean we all
> have to turn into those old people who trade in for a new
> Lincoln every year?*
You only had to replace your old Lincoln when it wore out.
The difference for us lucky unicycists these days is that
the "new" Lincoln is improved from the old one! In the past,
it would be a new copy of the same old seat.

Miyata was similar to this in the 80s, with many small
changes to their plastic (nylon?) seats. The original ones
had only one bolt on the front bumper. Then they went to
two. Then they changed the underside to make it stiffer.
Then they changed the top of the seatpost to go with that.
Then they added a third bolt on the front bumper. Then they
added a handle to the front bumper. Everything was an
improvement except the switch to Chinese manufacture.
They're still trying to recover from that in my opinion. But
they'll get the front handles straightened out. I just hope
they continue to improve the design in the coming years.

My new 29er (Yuni) also has a new KH seat. Not sure if
it's the signature model, but I think it is. It has a
grippy nylon-like cover. At first I was concerned that it
might be too grippy, but two laps around the 10 mile
course at Laguna Seca say otherwise. I didn't think about
the seat at all, except the handle. That means the padded
part is good! The handle could use some thickening at the
front. Yes, my hand got tired from gripping the thin
plastic for that long lap. I think the new handles will be
on the next generation of seats.

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Another thing I noticed about the new seat is that the whole
seat overall is not as thick so the seat doesn't sit as
tall. That's half the reason I had to raise my seat.....at
first I thought it was because it was more cushiony (is that
a word?). I guess when they changed to a more effective
padding they didn't need as much height to the seat.

The nylon material just looks cheap compared to the old
pleather material Jagur.......but if it holds up I actually
like the nylon feel more.

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zod wrote:
> *the nylon seems to create more fiction between your legs
> and the seat than the old leather material does. *

then

> .......but if it holds up I actually like the nylon
> feel more.

whatever,i give up:confused:

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Well, if you re-read my first impressions I did say I had
ONLY just put the seat on and rode around the driveway real
quick. I think I was still just used to the old seat. Once I
got out and rode it for some miles and got used to the
slightly different feel I liked it more. The initial feel of
friction must have simply been me over analyzing.

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john_childs wrote:
> *Did you get a KH signature seat or one of the off-brand
> seats? Some of the off-brand KH style seats, like the
> Torker, are using a thinner nylon style covering. I
> haven't seen the newest batch of KH signature seats so I
> don't know what kind of covering they're using now. *

Yeah mine is a signature. Or at least it has his signature
on the back.

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I didn't like the leather because it ripped around the seat
frame too easily. My trials uni has a gash through the
leathery stuff on the left side that goes from the front
seam to the seatpost area, where there's a few strands still
attached, to the rear seam... It's close to that situation
on the right. I hope the nylon is better in that regards.
Also, my first-gen muni seat has bolts that loosen very
quickly, and is also flexy. The trials seat has proven to
pretty durable otherwise, though.

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gerblefranklin wrote:
> *Also, my first-gen muni seat has bolts that loosen very
> quickly, and is also flexy.*

The first thing I do with a KH seat is go by 4 lock nuts and
replace the acorn nuts that hold the post to the saddle.
Lock nuts won't loosen. $0.57 upgrade ;)

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