On May 13, 1:40 am, Zoot Katz <
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> On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:46:11 -0700, Dane Buson <[email protected]>
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> >In rec.bicycles.misc Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Apr 26, 10:51 pm, Eric Vey <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >>> And when people say, "Can't be done, there must be a better way" you
> >>> chime in with "Well I don't understand what the fuss is about, I don't
> >>> have any trouble."
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> >>> That's egotistical.
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> >> The primary difference is that you (and others) keeps saying things
> >> like "if YOU lived..." or "if YOU did" or "people should..." or "the
> >> world would be better if..." and I say things like "I think that I
> >> will...".
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> >> You think the whole world revolves around you and that other people
> >> should comform to your thoughts. I think that I like living how I
> >> live, living where I live and doing what I do. Liking my life doesn't
> >> make me egocentric -- if makes me sane. You think "I don't like such
> >> and such and people should change to correct it". I think that if I
> >> don't like such and such, either I change it or I change myself. It
> >> is because I think that you have the right to live as you like (within
> >> reason and the law) and I'm fine with that.
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> >Quite so. I wouldn't particularly want to live where you do [1], but I
> >don't quite understand all the condemnation you get for liking to live
> >out in the hinterlands.
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> >Do I think that the shifting economics of our times mean that it will
> >become less desirable to live farther out? Yes, I think it will, and I
> >don't necessarily think it's a bad thing. But I also think it will be
> >(or at least should be) a gradual transition spurred by economics and
> >changes in social norms. The exact same way we ended up with suburbs
> >and exurbs we have now.
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> >[1] Being the glittering urbanite that I am.
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> Lately the public transit ridership has increased to the point that
> it's getting hard to find parking near bus and train terminals.
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> Eighteen bikes can fit into one parking space for a car.
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> I'd venture most drivers live within cycling distance of the
closest
> transit terminus.
Maybe where you live, but not where I live. Don't really know. Don't
really care. It isn't an issue for me. Even if I lived in a place
that had transit, what's the big whoop. I work out of my house so I
have the ultimately short commute. But as I said, if you want to live
in a city and commute back and forth, I'm happy for you. It's just
not my cup of tea.
Even with downtown parking being more expensive
> than transit fares too many people still choose to drive.
"too many choose"? By who's standards? Not all of the people who are
driving. Let them live their lives too. You and I only have say over
our own lives, not other people's (with the law, yada yada yada).
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