CF Lugged or Non?

alienator said:

Lugged or not lugged...there is no performance benefit of one over the other. As for shimmy, the best bikes can exhibit this behavior with the right weight distribution and input from the road. A bike that shimmies for one person, may not shimmy for 10,000 others.

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Understood. I haven't seen anything other than good comments about the L series frames and the prices I'm seeing look pretty reasonable.

strader said:

Comfort has much more to do with bike fit, tires, tire pressure, saddle, bar tape, gloves, and crotch pad than it does with the frame.

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Assume you are talking about the Al frame with this reply? If so...yes...the saddle is suspect. The bar tape is good, gloves are gel, crotch pad is Salini. The issue is only with my butt and that is why I suspect the saddle (but can't rule out the rear triangle) as it is an issue on a Computrainer too. After a 150miles on it and not nearly the same discomfort on my CrMo frame I am indeed looking at the saddle. One way for me to verify would be to pull the saddle from my CrMo and check it out. Other is that I am too far over the front wheel so I'll be changing out the stem as well.

I was mainly conisidering the 928 L because the price looks good for getting into a CF.

Thanks for the input and any other responses and guidance!

alienator said:

It's said over and over, but you should really get test rides on your candidate bikes if at all possible. At least an hour or two on a bike would give a quasi-decent indication of how it might work for you. A trip around a parking lot, though, won't tell you anything.

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Sad for me but they are all unbuilt frames off E-Bay. One is at a LBS (a Luna) about 45mins away that I might be able to persuade to build up for me using my Chorus components and try out.

Thanks!!!

Thylacine said:

Bolter,

You're not the guy that writes nycbikesnob by any chance?

Love your work man, you're hilarious! *thumbsup*

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Probably should...started out 25 years ago scraping together parts for a bike after I put my first one into the back of a car at about 30mph. It cost me the frame along with a broken nose, jaw and about half my teeth. Rode the Trek frame I replaced that with over 100 miles a week for 4 years, sometimes with my daughter on the back...after her, another daughter and then no time for riding. Now I'm back into it and can afford some of what I've wanted all along so I've set up a steel for touring and another (the Al that I'm thinking about changing to CF) for speed and fun.

Might sound like a snob but after all I've been through in life (Single dad raising 3 kids, career Military including Desert Storm and Somalia) I think I can spoil myself now.

Somehow I don't find any of it funny but can appreciate it if you do.