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post #46 of 72
7/12/07 at 6:47pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

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Originally Posted by whiteboytrash
Vinokourov crashed on a descent while traveling at more than 60 kph as the peloton continued its pursuit of a two-man breakaway over tight, winding roads. Vinokourov blamed the crash on a problem with his chain, which caused him to launch over his handlebars and land on his right side, tearing his shorts open and banging his knee on the pavement. Television pictures showed a TV motorcycle on its side just behind Vinokourov, apparently laid down while trying to avoid the fallen Astana rider.
Prompted a classic Kelly moment on Eurosport. Harmon saw the motorbike on its side and Vino's injury and went all hysterical: 'He must have collided with something from the side, this is UNBELIEVABLE!!!!', to which Kelly deadpanned:
'Yeah, he collided with the road'.
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post #47 of 72
7/12/07 at 6:49pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

Very interesting and exciting stage today : Andreas and Alex both hitting the floor.
Vino and the Astana train literally chasing for 20kms : superb stuff.
The Astana train worked and help limit Vino's losses.
Legendary Tom Boonen working with Vino was great footage.
Love it when the road men and the GT riders work together.

As for Kloden??
Hope the body repairs itself and he's back out tomorrow.

Cancellara's a deserving bearer of the Maillot Jeune : see him chasing down Popo and De La Fuente??
Great stuff : just like old times.

Enjoyed the sprint too : Pozzatto pipping my fav. Freire.

Great stage.
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post #48 of 72
7/12/07 at 6:58pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

That was a great stage.

Poor Klodi and Vino. What are the odds that both hopes on a team suffer serious and different crashes on a stage?

The time loss to Vino does not look too bad--if his injuries don't take him out of the game. He's about a minute behind most of the other favorites except Klodi. If his knees have been banged up then it seems at best that he won't be able to gain time over the weekend. He may end up requiring a big exploit in the Alps to win.

Klodi looked fine when he was chasing back to the pack. That could be because of adrenaline and being warmed up he could not feel the damage.

Even though the other contenders might want to take Saturday a little easy so they are fresher for Sunday, the best strategy would be to make Saturday very difficult and hit Vino and Klodi hard on the final climb. One or both might crumble.
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post #49 of 72
7/12/07 at 7:01pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

Miller said after the stage that is was a "classic Tour de France stage"...."the real Tour de France".......

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Originally Posted by limerickman
Very interesting and exciting stage today : Andreas and Alex both hitting the floor.
Vino and the Astana train literally chasing for 20kms : superb stuff.
The Astana train worked and help limit Vino's losses.
Legendary Tom Boonen working with Vino was great footage.
Love it when the road men and the GT riders work together.

As for Kloden??
Hope the body repairs itself and he's back out tomorrow.

Cancellara's a deserving bearer of the Maillot Jeune : see him chasing down Popo and De La Fuente??
Great stuff : just like old times.

Enjoyed the sprint too : Pozzatto pipping my fav. Freire.

Great stage.
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post #50 of 72
7/12/07 at 7:30pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

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Originally Posted by whiteboytrash
CH do you know how Vino crashed ? I heard it was the motorcycle cameraman ??
His chain jumped of.
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post #51 of 72
7/12/07 at 7:37pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

Evans was up there taking the place of McEwen in the sprint... hoping to pick up some free time I suppose.

Hincapie looking good if he can climb.
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post #52 of 72
7/12/07 at 7:38pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

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Originally Posted by JAPANic
Evans was up there taking the place of McEwen in the sprint... hoping to pick up some free time I suppose.

Hincapie looking good if he can climb.
NO, no, no, anyone but Hincapie... I throughly beleive he will crack
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post #53 of 72
7/12/07 at 7:46pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

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Originally Posted by whiteboytrash
Miller said after the stage that is was a "classic Tour de France stage"...."the real Tour de France".......
It was a classic stage : felt for Chavanel and Gilbert :they worked really hard on the stage.

So much to see today : CSC, Lampre working like demons at the head of the pack.
Rabo with Menchov, Ras and Boogerd working hard : Astana using the train to guide Vino back.
A Yellow jersey fighting in the last 5kms.
All great stuff.

One of the best stages I've seen in the TDF for years : certainly the best stage I've seen in the first week of a TDF in at least 11 years.
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post #54 of 72
7/12/07 at 8:02pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

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Originally Posted by cyclingheroes
His chain jumped of.

Been there! The chain ,I mean!
If I were Kloden I would allow ,maybe Hincapie or someone to take the yellow Saturday and play wounded, but stay close.
Let that team defend and pull the peloton and give it a couple of day to heal myself and Vino and then lay the hammer down. It is still a long race and many miles to go.
It's been done before but maybe he is hurt worse than that only time will tell. Several muscle attach to the tailbone and it depends on where the injury is as to the severity.
What do you think CH?
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post #55 of 72
7/12/07 at 8:19pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

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Originally Posted by Klodifan
NO, no, no, anyone but Hincapie... I throughly beleive he will crack
It's funny to me that Disco wants to hitch their wagon to Leipheimer as opposed to Hincapie - Big George seems to have more grit than Levi.
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post #56 of 72
7/12/07 at 9:00pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

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Originally Posted by whiteboytrash
Antonio Colom commented on ITV4 tonight that when Valverde crashed he paced back in the cars and the commissioners allowed it but when Vino crashed they pulled the cars out initially.... Antonio Colom went on to say.."next time someone crashes and if they are Spanish we won't wait"..... fighting words !
When did Valverde crash, I missed that, does he mean Mayo?
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post #57 of 72
7/12/07 at 10:04pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

Nobody wants bad things to happen to Vino and Klodie in terms of crashes, but, Klodie apparently has broken one of the bones that took him out of another Tour. That does not bode well for his making it through the Tour.
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post #58 of 72
7/12/07 at 10:11pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

I was glad to see Ras show a little form. I can't wait for the weekend. I really think someone will come out of the alps with 3-4 miniutes. The way the tour has gone so far, I think a climber really has a chance at the GC. With Kloden and Vino diminished, someone like Ras may really have a chance. I think Rabo is clearly the team to beat now that Astana is damaged goods. Fly chicken, Fly!!!!
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post #59 of 72
7/12/07 at 10:27pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

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Originally Posted by stilesiii
I was glad to see Ras show a little form. I can't wait for the weekend. I really think someone will come out of the alps with 3-4 miniutes. The way the tour has gone so far, I think a climber really has a chance at the GC. With Kloden and Vino diminished, someone like Ras may really have a chance. I think Rabo is clearly the team to beat now that Astana is damaged goods. Fly chicken, Fly!!!!
True, but don't forget his nerves could make a disastrous TT
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post #60 of 72
7/12/07 at 10:32pm

Re: Stage 5 - Thursday 12 June: Chablis - Auton (182.5km)

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Originally Posted by jhuskey
As I said,we should not always hope for the worst.
BTW: What was that post about Astanas poor performance? The peloton was hammer down and Astana had to ride around 30 - 35% faster than that to get Vino back to where he ended up.
Everyone go try this sometime and tell me how it goes for you.

Thanks CH!
30-35% faster than that peleton???!!!! Come on!!!! I'd buy 5%.
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