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OK my first 'as promised race' last night.
Kew boulevard loop run by the Hawthorn Cycling Club. Spoke to Ray Blucher at his shop to get the lowdown and signed up (lovely chap. one of those guys that genuinely oozes enthusiasm!). goals in order 1 - not to crash 2 - to finish 3 - not get dropped oh well, 2 outta 3 aint bad, as the fat bloke sang. D-grade. 30 minutes plus 3 laps we are told by the starter. I start with the Dgrade crowd (i think they start 1 minute before the C's who go round at the same time). D's go forth up the hill and we all shuffle about and try and settle down on a wheel. There is a field of approx 20 in Dgrade (there were only 10ish last week and a few of the faces this week I recognise from last weeks C grade. just great!) We go around fro 3-4 laps and 'accordian' in and out like a caterpillar every time we hit the straights. The hill brings us all together. Not feeling too bad. Hey, maybe I can do this, me thinks. I look down. 6 minutes gone. oh boy! After about 5 laps Cgrade can be heard coming up behind, and wouldnt you know it but its as we approach the sharp U-turn. As we had all been lectured at the start to stick left and not 'hang-on' to C's, I sat up a bit. I was about 15th wheel in the D-line at that point. We go around the corner, Most of the D's are off and heading up the hill, Im hesitating making sure I make that corner smoothly and very left so as not to get shouted at, and that's all she wrote!!! Me and about 3 other D's are a good 200m off the lead pack now. Bugger. Point 3 in my plans failed Oh well, perhaps if we work together we can get them back (apologies for not knowing the lingo guys/gals). By the time we approach the Uturn again I realise they are pulling away. Nobody is helping and Im just pulling them along. Come on guys! Decision time. 10 minutes gone. 20+ to go. I step it up a few kph and 2 stay with me. Then one. Bugger! "Im stuffed", he says. "Let's just finish" i reply. I delude myself that if we keep to a pace we can slowly bring em back again. 4-5 more laps the two of us go harder. We are only very slowly bringing them back. I can glimpse them every time we approach the Uturn. "Im gonna give it a spurt", I say back to the other guy as we round the Uturn and stomp up the hill. I reach the top and look down seeing I am doing 35kph up the hill. C grade seem to do that almost every lap, but I aint got too many of them in me. I look back to see how my mate is doing. He's gone!!! Bugger, bugger, bugger!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im on my own. 18 minute mark. This aint fun anymore guys. come back and play with the rookie... Grind, grind. Go hard on the hill and try and hide from the southerly on the downhill. Many laps go by and I see nobody apart from a few guys who are warming up for A/B grade. Then I see them! about 5 D's are up ahead. for 3 laps I get nowhere. Who's idea was this? Oh yeah... mine! 25 minutes gone. 2 more laps and I am within about 200m. Maybe I can do this after all. If only they would just momentarly ease up. with only a few minutes to go until the bell I knw that's not likely. I decide to see what I can make. 2 hard laps and Im within 100m. Im knackered!!! And then it happens... 3 of them get dropped at the Uturn and are obviously spent. Adrenaline is a wonderful thing (why doesnt it come in a drink form???). I go hard again up the hill and get 1 one of the guys. the other 2 are trying to get back onto the others up ahead. C grade come past again and i think 2 of the stronger D's lap me. Oh well, Im not last i justify to myself. 2 laps to go the marshall shouts out. cramping slightly in my left leg (its always my left. what's with that?????????) Im about 50m behind the D'ers. The others up ahead have gone. their race is just starting i guess... I pass the 2 going down the last hill. May as well have some fun! Im stomping just for the hell of it, cruise up the last hill and catch another D'er, the girl on the nice Paconi ( sad i know but this little black duck has some semblence of male pride ) i roll over the finish line and nobody looks at me nd I start to panic there is one more lap! "What about D?" i say. "Youre finished". ........Relief. I turn around and go stand with the other D's. Some of them know each other but most of us just stand around awkwardly. So that was it. Roll back around the the bottom at the Uturn and the others I had passed are sitting to one side. I try and figure out what, if anything I jsut did. Im guessing i finished about 14th out of 20 which is reaaly crap but Im philosophical about it. I didnt fall I finished I got dropped. Man it must be so much easier riding in a pack. Mental note. try and hangon next time Great fun. Feel like a big kid. Shall be there next time, trying to learn a bit more..... The 'Not-so-FlyingDutchman' ![]()
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Well done!!!!!!!!! By the sound of it, you would've been able to hang it with D grade had you not had that incident with the C graders. I reckon racing on that circuit gives you the best workout than any other race around. Pity about that sharp left which I'm always tentative about, it would be a perfect circuit if it didn't have that in it.
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G'day Dutch,
show me a bloke who reckons he didn't get dropped in his first ever crit....& i'll show you a liar!.......I got lapped about 4 times on an 800m flat course. 4 weeks later I won!. Told ya you would learn more in one race than reading threads!.....keep at it, you'll get better each week, learn from whatever goes wrong & you'll get there, cheers, Hitchy |
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Nice theory Hitch-man
does that mean you expect me to win in the next few weeks??? The pressure............. How about I just not get dropped??? "We're just going to go out on the park , yer know, and give it a redhot go. At the end of the day , yer know, the team who has the most points on the board is the , yer know, winner and we just have to get all our plans in place to make sure that we can pull together and play as a team. We are just taking it one week at a time and nobody is thinking finals just yet. At the end of the day, yer know, Football will be the winner on the day"
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G'day, how 'bout don't get dropped next week, get done in a sprint for 3rd the week after, a place the week after that .......& then the sky's the limit!!!!...stick it out, it'll come, cheers, Hitchy |
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Nice one dutchy!! ![]() You know you like it! ![]() All you gotta do is follow the bunch.. wheel sucking ain't evil I tells ya! ![]() I've gotta try this course out one day.. sounds like a nasty corner and my scabs are starting to heal... hippy
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Hitchy.. What about a bloke who got lapped AND came 3rd in his first crit race? You can read all about the story of hippy, his evil down-tube shifting Skansen and scumbag sandbaggers here: 3rd in 1st Crit Tiny: http://tinyurl.com/2mwh9 hippy suffering post-race delusions...
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"Hitchy" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
news:gPX3c.28720$AB1.7731@fe12.usenetserver.com... > G'day Dutch, > > show me a bloke who reckons he didn't get dropped in his > first ever crit....& i'll show you a liar!.......I got > lapped about 4 times on an Pick me :-) Admittedly, it was E grade at Heffron, which is not exactly the "deepest" grade and I think 5 starters generally constitutes the bunch. A friend and I decided to start racing (this was a looong time ago in the summer of '88-'89) so they stuck us both in E grade. There were three races on the day: he won the first and third, and I won the second one. We got put up to C grade after that :-) And I can tell you it took many months and a lot of racing before the promotion to B grade, and many more before we got to A grade finally. I still hate crits with U-turns in them! Perserverance is the key in cycling. You'll get there (wherever that is) if you stick at it. cheers, Jeff |
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definetely liaring! I jokingly asked at he signup if they had an Egrade. no such luck Im afraid. Cant wait till next week now... Occurred to me last night that this was the first sporting thing I have ever done as an individual. Having spent my yewf from 12-to-32 playing baseball, from T-ball to representing Oz. Totally different obviously but the thing that got me was how 'true' cycling racing is. Nobody to carry you if you aint hitting the ball well, or backing you up. Just you and a bike (and the wind, the hills, and the ... )
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>Originally posted by flyingdutch
>definetely liaring! :-P >Totally different obviously but the thing that got me was >how 'true' cycling racing is. Nobody to carry you if you aint >hitting the ball well, or backing you up. Until you start making friends and can work as a team to take other riders apart or drag your sprinters up the hills, etc. ![]() hippy
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yeah, I see now how people comment that cycling is rather unapproachable. a tad clique, but Im just a greenhorn with hairy legs at the moment! They could really do to introduce some form of 'buddy' system perhaps? Ray was really good but he couldnt really help me once we got going and was rather busy help organise everything before/after to chat. I think my heartrate was probably 30% higher before starting out of shere anxiety I was doing the right thing and not knowing was kinda stressful Speaking of hairy legs, when does one get 'worthy' enough to do so and/or do I need/want to do it ?
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>Originally posted by flyingdutch
>yeah, I see now how people comment that cycling >is rather unapproachable. a tad clique, but Im just >a greenhorn with hairy legs at the moment! Nah man, it's so true! Unless you start as a junior or have exceptional talent, starting to race is just plain hard. There are no rules until you are yelled at, you don't have a coach going "good try, maybe do <this> next time", etc. I am still feeling out of my depth and still learning new 'rules' and techniques every race and I've been doing it on and off for ~3 years... >They could really do to introduce some form of >'buddy' system perhaps? Yeah, but the fast guys don't have time for the slow guys, it's hard to match abilities and many things that happen in racing just can't be replicated in "training". Racing really is the best form of training. But, just having someone to show you the ropes like some of the juniors seem to have would be great - maybe more people would keep racing? >I think my heartrate was probably 30% higher >before starting out of shere anxiety I was doing >the right thing and not knowing was kinda stressful I still get crazy nervous before a lot of races and even training rides. I think it's because I spent so long riding on the flat and alone that bunches and hills scare me bigtime... >Speaking of hairy legs, when does one get 'worthy' >enough to do so and/or do I need/want to do it ? Worthy? Meh! If you wanna do it, do it. I thought I'd try and it's strange cold feeling.. then I let them grow and didn't care and now I've shaved again and with my track scabs it's growing again.. I tend to shave when I start riding more 'seriously', if I ever ride seriously ![]()
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I only flt like i was 'On' going up to bat in baseball if I had 'stomach-butterflies'...
advice needed. what kinda lead up do you do? Is it your hardest ride of the week? Do you taper up to it in some way? how far out do you eat/not eat? How much do you warm up beforehand? Go easy the following few days? Im stuck in an office at the mo so anything I can gleen from you lads would be appreciated until I canget out on Sunday am to ride
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>Originally posted by flyingdutch
>advice needed. what kinda lead up do you do? You mean like warmup? or training? Warmup for METEC for me is bugger all because I'm always running late. 2k ride from home to the circuit usually. Not optimal at all. Glelvale on Sundays is better as it's a 20k ride to the course before the race. I initially couldn't fathom riding to/from races but 20 easy k's seems like nothing compared to a race. I won my first race killing myself just to get there on time - different things work depending on how much 'juice' you've got in your legs. The more you ride/race the longer you will last and the more you can race with perhaps less recovery time needed. >Is it your hardest ride of the week? Glenvale (sun) and METEC (Thu) would be the two hardest rides of the week as they are races. But then I also get cained going over the mountain on Wed nights - depends on how I feel as to how hard I ride on the training rides. Track training is fairly intense but can't be classed as 'hard' because I was never recovered before doing it so couldn't go "flat out" even if I wanted to. >Do you taper up to it in some way? Other than the fact that I've basically stopped bike commuting (just recently), I don't have a taper as such. Maybe for bigger races I would take it easier in the few days prior, but certainly not the mid-week crit stuff. >how far out do you eat/not eat? For crits, I don't eat right beforehand, the intensity is usually enough to prompt some regurgitation, if you know what i mean! Depending on your own digestive system, give yourself 2-3 hours without food before a race. Drink water and maybe carbo drink if you think you are short on energy. Just before longer races people tend to have a small, high GI intake, e.g a gel or something. But for crits that is not necessary IMHO. >How much do you warm up beforehand? Anything from "not at all" to "1.5 hrs riding to circuit then riding around, building up pace towards the start so HR is high near start" >Go easy the following few days? If you can have time off the bike, great. I'm trying to fit in as much as possible and I'm sure my recovery suffers a bit, but that's why I've stopped commuting, at least until I get back into the groove... >Im stuck in an office at the mo so anything I can Me too. >gleen from you lads would be appreciated until I >can get out on Sunday am to ride. Always willing to help. Don't take what I say as gospel though, nor anyone else, only you know what works on race day and prior... Experimentation is the key - that's where you get used to not winning races ![]() hippy
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>> "Experimentation is the key
>> - that's where you get used to not winning races " check! got that one down pat!! One last one hipster. Got (just little ones but woulda got worse if not we ran out of laps). Wot's causing me to cramp? (how's that for open-ended?) Got em with a lap to go on Wed and on the alpine classic too I suspected on the AC it was cos I got too cold descending Falls without pedalling much But I have been getting the twinges more often recently Im fairly religious about my riding positin after years of tweaking and Im strting to suspect that my seat is a few mill's too low. Only shows itself on longer or harder rides I am also guilty of being a 'toe-pointer'. IE toe is too downwards a couple of people have mentioned over the years any ideas (PS whattya do that allows you to surf this much?)
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