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  1. Robert McDonald said:

    If you really wanted to get people out of their cars and onto bikes
    then charge motorists by the mile (GPS technology) or on entering
    towns etc and pay cyclists the same rate (the important bit!).

    Isn't the first bit part of the plan to replace the RFL anyway? ITYF by
    the time it happens bikes will probably have to pay as well as we seem
    to be moving towards a world where you have to pay to walk down the
    road ;-(

  2. MartinM said:

    we
    seem to be moving towards a world where you have to pay to walk down
    the road ;-(

    That reminds me: we visited Clovelly on our hols this year. As you approach
    the village by car, the signs direct you into a car park (no vehicles in
    Clovelly, obviously). At one end of the car park is a visitor centre which
    doubles as the entrance to the village. The trick is that they charge you £4
    per person to go through the visitor centre to get to the village. I refused
    to pay, much to the embarrassment of my wife, and they informed me that the
    £4 was for the car parking and that they were clamping vehicles with a £10
    release fee! I still refused to pay, my wife was cringing by now and agreed
    to pay to cover the parking. I walked back out of the car park and down the
    public road into the village.

    Clovelly itself ain't that great BTW. At least not in August, thronging with
    tourists. Big signs on the harbour wall prohibiting the throwing of stones!
    Pretty though.

  3. "Simonb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    That reminds me: we visited Clovelly on our hols this year. As you approach
    the village by car, the signs direct you into a car park (no vehicles in
    Clovelly, obviously). At one end of the car park is a visitor centre which
    doubles as the entrance to the village. The trick is that they charge you £4
    per person to go through the visitor centre to get to the village. I refused
    to pay, much to the embarrassment of my wife, and they informed me that the
    £4 was for the car parking and that they were clamping vehicles with a £10
    release fee! I still refused to pay, my wife was cringing by now and agreed
    to pay to cover the parking. I walked back out of the car park and down the
    public road into the village.

    Clovelly itself ain't that great BTW. At least not in August, thronging with
    tourists. Big signs on the harbour wall prohibiting the throwing of stones!
    Pretty though.

    I seem to remember asking about the fee and was told that the village is privately
    owned including common areas like the roads & paths, rather than the usual
    situation where the road and other parts is publicly owned. I probably go there
    only about once every 2 years on average so I'm not bothered about the fee, but it
    could get expensive if I was a regular visitor (eg visiting friends there, but
    perhaps visitors to residents are exempt from the fee)

  4. Adrian Boliston said:

    I seem to remember asking about the fee and was told that the village
    is privately owned including common areas like the roads & paths,
    rather than the usual situation where the road and other parts is
    publicly owned. I probably go there only about once every 2 years on
    average so I'm not bothered about the fee, but it could get expensive
    if I was a regular visitor (eg visiting friends there, but perhaps
    visitors to residents are exempt from the fee)

    I objected mainly to the underhand way in which it was foisted on us -- and
    then the threat of a wheel clamping if we didn't cough up -- there is
    roadside parking about a half mile back up the road. Also, there is a
    publically maintained road down to the village which runs round the back --
    the land rover which ferries folks up and down uses it (£4 a ticket!!).

  5. MartinM said:

    Isn't the first bit part of the plan to replace the RFL anyway?

    Job done. By Mr Churchill, if I remember rightly...

    Guy
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  6. In message <[email hidden]>, Simonb
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    That reminds me: we visited Clovelly on our hols this year. As you approach
    the village by car, the signs direct you into a car park (no vehicles in
    Clovelly, obviously). At one end of the car park is a visitor centre which
    doubles as the entrance to the village.

    On my visit there about 8 years or so back I actually drove down to the
    pub (Red Lion?) next to the harbour pier at Clovelly. It was quite a
    squeeze to park, then turn to get out again. The next morning we parked
    at the visitor's centre.

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  7. MartinM said:


    Robert McDonald said:

    If you really wanted to get people out of their cars and onto bikes
    then charge motorists by the mile (GPS technology) or on entering
    towns etc and pay cyclists the same rate (the important bit!).

    Isn't the first bit part of the plan to replace the RFL anyway? ITYF by
    the time it happens bikes will probably have to pay as well as we seem
    to be moving towards a world where you have to pay to walk down the
    road ;-(

    If They gain the ability to track folk in their cars... then for
    Security there will be pressure to stop folk stealthing around on
    bikes... They will be tagged too?

    If you have nothing to hide!

    Richard Webb

  8. [email hidden] (RJ Webb) wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    If They gain the ability to track folk in their cars... then for
    Security there will be pressure to stop folk stealthing around on
    bikes... They will be tagged too?

    If you have nothing to hide!

    Then there is no point in being tagged?

    --
    Chris

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