While the new guidelines laid down by the UCI concerning helmet useage in the European peleton have the best intentions, I'm concerned that the implementation of these intentions is kind of dubious. To be specific, I think its kind of odd that they will allow the riders to take their helmets off on uphill finishes.
How will they do this?
Its one thing to have one or two guys at a time take their helmets off, and take them back to the team car. Its quite another to have the whole peleton (or what remains of it) take their helmets off and try to hand them off. The logistics seem pretty complex. Will they just throw them to the crowds? Will the domestiques earn their salary big time? What's the scoop?
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While the new guidelines laid down by the UCI concerning helmet useage in the European peleton have the best intentions, I'm concerned that the implementation of these intentions is kind of dubious. To be specific, I think its kind of odd that they will allow the riders to take their helmets off on uphill finishes. How will they do this? Its one thing to have one or two guys at a time take their helmets off, and take them back to the team car. Its quite another to have the whole peleton (or what remains of it) take their helmets off and try to hand them off. The logistics seem pretty complex. Will they just throw them to the crowds? Will the domestiques earn their salary big time? What's the scoop?
Give em to your buddy or drape the helmet over your stem. Helmets don't weigh that much. ----------------- Alex __O _-\<,_ (_)/ (_)
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While the new guidelines laid down by the UCI concerning helmet useage in the European peleton have the best intentions, I'm concerned that the implementation of these intentions is kind of dubious. To be specific, I think its kind of odd that they will allow the riders to take their
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off on uphill finishes. How will they do this? Its one thing to have one or two guys at a time take their helmets off,
and
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take them back to the team car. Its quite another to have the whole peleton (or what remains of it) take their helmets off and try to hand
them
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off. The logistics seem pretty complex. Will they just throw them to
the
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crowds? Will the domestiques earn their salary big time? What's the scoop?
Give em to your buddy or drape the helmet over your stem. Helmets don't weigh that much.
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the European peleton have the best intentions, I'm concerned that the implementation of these intentions is kind of dubious. To be specific,
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think its kind of odd that they will allow the riders to take their
helmets
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off on uphill finishes. How will they do this? Its one thing to have one or two guys at a time take their helmets off,
and
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take them back to the team car. Its quite another to have the whole peleton (or what remains of it) take their helmets off and try to hand
them
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off. The logistics seem pretty complex. Will they just throw them to
the
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crowds? Will the domestiques earn their salary big time? What's the scoop?
Give em to your buddy or drape the helmet over your stem. Helmets don't weigh that much.
So then wear the (expletive deleted) things!
On a long, windless climb, the helmet impedes ventilation, hence the rule allowing them to be ditched when the finish is at the top.
It's a reasonable rule and the riders at the front have good cause to ditch their helmets on the final climb.
I'll guess that only riders in the front group will be throwing their helmets aside (like waterbottles). The time of the rest of the riders isn't important and teams aren't going to want to be carrying arounds stacks of replacement helmets.
In the history of the previously helmetless TdF or Giro or Vuelta, can you think of any rider getting a head injury (that a helmet would have prevented) while going uphill on the final climb?
When I was in high school, a friend of mine, as he was walking to his car, slipped on some ice, landed on his head and was killed instantly. All this, no air, it's too hot, is all bogus, and you know it. Have everyone wear their helmets all of the time.
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In the history of the previously helmetless TdF or Giro or Vuelta, can
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think of any rider getting a head injury (that a helmet would have prevented) while going uphill on the final climb?
When I was in high school, a friend of mine, as he was walking to his car, slipped on some ice, landed on his head and was killed instantly. All this, no air, it's too hot, is all bogus, and you know it. Have everyone wear their helmets all of the time.
In the history of the previously helmetless TdF or Giro or Vuelta, can you think of any rider getting a head injury (that a helmet would have prevented) while going uphill on the final climb?
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Kurgan-<< On a long, windless climb, the helmet impedes ventilation,
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rule allowing them to be ditched when the finish is at the top.
It's a reasonable rule and the riders at the front have good cause to
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their helmets on the final climb.
Typical UCI non-speak...how fast was Kivilev going when he hit the
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I guess the UCI needs another death before they grow a spine about
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Hey dumbass -
The climb has to be at least 5k in length, the finish has to be at the top of the climb, and the riders cannot ditch their helmets until there is a sign telling them it is OK to do so.
In the history of the previously helmetless TdF or Giro or Vuelta, can you think of any rider getting a head injury (that a helmet would have prevented) while going uphill on the final climb?
Its one thing to have one or two guys at a time take their helmets off, and take them back to the team car. Its quite another to have the whole peleton (or what remains of it) take their helmets off and try to hand them off. The logistics seem pretty complex. Will they just throw them to the crowds? Will the domestiques earn their salary big time? What's the scoop?
In the history of the previously helmetless TdF or Giro or Vuelta, can you think of any rider getting a head injury (that a helmet would have prevented) while going uphill on the final climb?
Can you think of a scenario where this has happened on the second last climb? Yet the riders are not allowed to sling their helmets off their bars until the last climb. It simply does not make sense.
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On a long, windless climb, the helmet impedes ventilation, hence the rule allowing them to be ditched when the finish is at the top.
It's a reasonable rule and the riders at the front have good cause to ditch their helmets on the final climb.
The second last climb is just as hot as the last climb. Why have the UCI made such a silly arbitrary distinction?
1) They have to descent after the 2nd to last climb. Need a helmet for the descent.
2) the last climb is where they will go the hardest.
1. So they sling it off their stem and put it on at the top of the climb. If the rule allowing them to take it off on the final climb is for heat considerations, it makes no sense to differentiate where the climb appears in the race.
2. So? They go plenty hard up the other climbs as well. Do you think they don't get hot?
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote: > > On a long, windless climb, the helmet impedes ventilation, hence the rule allowing them to be > ditched when the finish is at the top. > > It's a reasonable rule and the riders at the front have good cause to ditch their helmets on > the final climb. > The second last climb is just as hot as the last climb. Why have the UCI made such a silly arbitrary distinction?
1) They have to descent after the 2nd to last climb. Need a helmet for the descent.
2) the last climb is where they will go the hardest.
1. So they sling it off their stem and put it on at the top of the climb.
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the rule allowing them to take it off on the final climb is for heat considerations, it makes no sense to differentiate where the climb appears in the race.
2. So? They go plenty hard up the other climbs as well. Do you think they don't get hot?
Not as hot as the last climb.
They are trying to compromise with certain riders who otherwise may boycott the rule.
I think it makes sense. Wearing a helmet on the final climb isn't going to save anyone's life.
