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  1. Okay, bikers, hook a girl up. I am buying a new bike. I already have
    a bike shop I plan to support with my purchase, so they will of course
    fit me to the bike, but I want some input from daily riders. I
    appreciate any advice you can give me.

    Background: I am 26, 5'4", 30" inseam, big feet, therefore long arms,
    and short torso. I live in San Diego city proper (North Park). I
    will not be commuting. I will be riding around the city for fun and
    fitness. I will be grocery-getting. I don't plan to tour. I will be
    on pavement mostly, but would like to take the dirt paths in Balboa
    Park and elsewhere. I do not see mountain biking in my future ever. I
    haven't ridden for a few years but want to get back into it and don't
    want to have to upgrade my bike in a couple years. I plan to throw on
    some Cane Creek ergo bar ends and a rack.

    Not sure of: Fenders. Do I need them? Do most bikes come with mounts
    these days? Shocks. I don't want to deal with repairs. Best tire
    choice? I have no idea about tires.

    Concerns: Handlebar width, brake reach and stealabilty. I had a
    Cannondale stolen from inside my car once.

    Want: flat handlebar road bike or hybrid for $800 or less. A lot
    less, preferably, but I'll pay more for a bike I don't have to upgrade
    later.

    The short list, and feel free to suggest whatever I don't have on it
    yet:

    Marin Muirwoods
    Giant Cypress SX
    Cannondale Bad Boy
    Giant Cypress SL
    Raleigh C700

  2. (K) said:

    Background: I live in San Diego city proper (North Park). I
    will not be commuting. I will be riding around the city for fun and
    fitness. I will be grocery-getting. I don't plan to tour.

    Probably don't want a road bike, then.

    Quoted message said:

    I will be
    on pavement mostly, but would like to take the dirt paths in Balboa
    Park and elsewhere.

    Okay, this seems to be heading into hybrid or cross territory. To
    maximize choices, and given your height, I'd recommend looking at the
    26" hybrids, as that gives you the biggest field of potential choices
    for options. You may also want to look at non-suspension mountain
    bikes with a swap to a smooth tire to make an instant hybrid. The
    other reason to look at a smooth-tire mtb is that you often get a
    lower low gear on them, thus making the climb up a few of the hills
    easier. Last but not least, because there are so many choices in the
    mtb area, it's often easier to get a good deal on a bike with
    everything you want alrady on it except the tires...and those are
    easily dealt with.

    Quoted message said:

    I do not see mountain biking in my future ever. I
    haven't ridden for a few years but want to get back into it and don't
    want to have to upgrade my bike in a couple years. I plan to throw on
    some Cane Creek ergo bar ends and a rack.

    Not sure of: Fenders. Do I need them?

    In Diego? I wouldn't bother. It's dry what, 340+ days of the year?

    Quoted message said:

    Do most bikes come with mounts these days?

    Fender mounts are still common on bikes that have no suspension.

    Quoted message said:

    Shocks. I don't want to deal with repairs.

    You can probably live without a suspension fork, though it does smooth
    out the bumps a bit.

    Quoted message said:

    Best tire choice? I have no idea about tires.

    Tires are not a critical item brandwise in my opinion, but I'd pick a
    fairly fat and smooth tire. You're looking for a mostly-street ride,
    and your trail riding will probably be mostly on hardpack, so knobbies
    are a waste of energy and a source of needless vibration.

    Quoted message said:

    Concerns: Handlebar width, brake reach

    Good brake levers can be adjusted for reach. Bar width is a fit
    issue; address that with the lbs. Brake levers with ergo extensions
    so that you can use them from the bar ends are hard to come by; I have
    some and like them, but they're rare...and reach is an iffy issue with
    them.

    Quoted message said:

    and stealabilty. I had a
    Cannondale stolen from inside my car once.

    Peel all the brand labels off and ugly the bike up a bit if you're in
    an area where theives tend to grab good stuff by preference. No
    matter where you are, buy as much good lock as you can afford. Don't
    park or leave the bike where it's visible.

    Quoted message said:

    Want: flat handlebar road bike or hybrid for $800 or less. A lot
    less, preferably, but I'll pay more for a bike I don't have to upgrade
    later.

    "flat handlebar" = not a road bike. Definitely hybrid territory.
    There are lots of choices in that area, particularly when you include
    the concept of swapping smooth tires onto a mountain bike to make a
    roll-yer-own hybrid.

    One final note; You live in the part of the world where the infamous
    goathead weed is found; its seeds are spiny and sharp, and will
    puncture a bike tire easily.. Many people in your part of the world
    find that tire liners and/or Slime makes life easier around goatheads,
    though nothing that's practical will absolutely prevent them from
    puncturing a bike tire. Talk to the folks at the lbs; they'll have a
    better idea of whether this is worth bothering with in your case.
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  3. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay, bikers, hook a girl up. I am buying a new bike. I already have
    a bike shop I plan to support with my purchase, so they will of course
    fit me to the bike, but I want some input from daily riders. I
    appreciate any advice you can give me.

    Background: I am 26, 5'4", 30" inseam, big feet, therefore long arms,
    and short torso. I live in San Diego city proper (North Park). I
    will not be commuting. I will be riding around the city for fun and
    fitness. I will be grocery-getting. I don't plan to tour. I will be
    on pavement mostly, but would like to take the dirt paths in Balboa
    Park and elsewhere. I do not see mountain biking in my future ever. I
    haven't ridden for a few years but want to get back into it and don't
    want to have to upgrade my bike in a couple years. I plan to throw on
    some Cane Creek ergo bar ends and a rack.

    Not sure of: Fenders. Do I need them?

    If you plan on riding when it is wet, yes you do need them. If you only
    ride when it is dry, you don't need them.

    Quoted message said:

    Do most bikes come with mounts these days?

    If it is not advertised as a racing bike, it will probably have the
    approrpriate mounts.

    Quoted message said:

    Shocks. I don't want to deal with repairs.

    Pass on them. They will add unecessary weight to your bike.

    Quoted message said:

    Best tire choice? I have no idea about tires.

    Since you plan on riding on unpaved trails, you probably want a little
    bit of tread on your tires. I would also go for a medium size one, aroud
    28mm.

    Quoted message said:

    Concerns: Handlebar width, brake reach and stealabilty. I had a
    Cannondale stolen from inside my car once.

    Handlebar width will depend on your size. The bike shop should recommend
    the appropriate size. Stealability is tricky. You can make your bike as
    ugly as possible to make it unattractive to thieves. What I have done is
    to wrap my bike with old inner tubes. Protects the paint and makes the bike
    less attractive and doesn't affect the function. The other thing to do is
    make sure you have a good lock and learn how to properly lock your bike up.

    Quoted message said:

    Want: flat handlebar road bike or hybrid for $800 or less. A lot
    less, preferably, but I'll pay more for a bike I don't have to upgrade
    later.

    By skipping the useless suspension fork and suspension seat you can save
    money to upgrade other components.

    ------------
    Alex

  4. Quoted message said:

    haven't ridden for a few years but want to get back into it and don't
    want to have to upgrade my bike in a couple years. I plan to throw on
    some Cane Creek ergo bar ends and a rack.


    Most decent quality bikes will last a long time under normal use.
    "Upgrades" are usually a matter of want vs. need. If you end up
    riding a lot you will probably end up teaking the bike or getting a
    better one - even if you buy a more expensive one now.

    Not sure of: Fenders. Do I need them?

    Not in San Diego unless you are a diehard commuter who insists on
    riding the 3 days a year it actually rains. Rain riding is actually
    pretty dangerous in San Diego. It rains so seldom that oil doesn't
    get washed off the roads, so when it does things can get treacherous.

    Do most bikes come with mounts

    Not always, although there are fenders that can be mounted on bikes
    w/o eyelets.

    Best tire

    Quoted message said:

    choice? I have no idea about tires.

    Slicks or Semi-slicks - Knobby tread is bad on roads, and a 26 X 1.5
    slick will do fine on most non-technical dirt paths.

    Quoted message said:


    Concerns: Handlebar width, brake reach and stealabilty. I had a
    Cannondale stolen from inside my car once.

    All bikes are stealable. Slightly more or less expensive makes little
    difference. Good lock (U-lock and cable) and prudence re. where you
    lock it are key.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The short list, and feel free to suggest whatever I don't have on it
    yet:

    Marin Muirwoods


    Good choice - may want to consider the Marin Novato -one model up
    gives you a lighter aluminium frame and 9-speeds vs. 8. 8sp is fine
    but it is rapidly disappearing.

    Quoted message said:

    Giant Cypress SX


    Would not recommend inexpensive paired spoke wheels for casual urban
    riding. IMO less durable and harder to deal with a broken spoke. A
    standard 32 spoke design is better in this case.

    Quoted message said:

    Cannondale Bad Boy


    Nice bike - better frame and better components, although that may not
    have much real world importance. 1" slicks may not work well on dirt,
    but that can be changed.

    Quoted message said:

    Giant Cypress SL


    Paired spokes again

    Quoted message said:

    Raleigh C700


    Nice but expensive

    Really I would recommend spending less rather than more - under $600.
    A hybrid sounds like a good choice for you. If you end up riding a lot
    you will probably
    end up on a road bike eventually. And if your bike only sees
    intermittent use, there is no reason to overspend.

  5. Thanks for the information. I'm honing in on the Giant Cypress SX.
    MTN frame, 700c road tires, lightish components, pretty solid. If I
    can get a good fit on that bike I plan to buy it. Do you think
    there's any hope in hell that there will be an 03 floating around out
    there? It seems to be calling my name in a way the 04 does not.

  6. Thanks for all your help in making my decision. Looks like I'm
    getting a Specialized Sirrus 05. $470, plus some accessories. Won't
    break the bank and a really nice bike.

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