this guy thinks HGH is performance enhancing...

gym gravity said:

get a load of this:

Three important doping substances to consider are erythropoietin (EPO),
growth hormone (GH), and the anabolic steroid testosterone.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7039.0.html

(he also thinks EPO is produced in bacteria)

gym gravity said:

gym gravity said:

get a load of this:

Three important doping substances to consider are erythropoietin
(EPO), growth hormone (GH), and the anabolic steroid testosterone.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7039.0.html

(he also thinks EPO is produced in bacteria)

also found this while fishing around on the Amgen website. I saw
something on 60 minutes a few years ago about it too:

http://tinyurl.com/5z5xx
http://tinyurl.com/4rtn9

but here's an official Amgen press release with photos of the
counterfeit boxes that were displayed on the 60 minutes boxes:

http://www.amgen.com/news/news02/release020506.html

Gym (raising awareness, that all you cheatin' US domestic pros are
ripping off 12 year olds with kidney disease) Gravity.

gym gravity said:

gym gravity said:

get a load of this:

Three important doping substances to consider are erythropoietin
(EPO), growth hormone (GH), and the anabolic steroid testosterone.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7039.0.html

(he also thinks EPO is produced in bacteria)

He doesn't specifically mention that growth hormone is
performance-enhancing.
He does mention Chinese hamster ovaries as a source of EPO, which is
more amusing than the two examples you quote...

gym gravity said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Three important doping substances to consider are erythropoietin
(EPO), growth hormone (GH), and the anabolic steroid testosterone.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7039.0.html

Stewart Fleming said:

He does mention Chinese hamster ovaries as a source of EPO, which is
more amusing than the two examples you quote...

Hmm, this makes me feel just a little suspicous of Laffery's recently
deceased pet hamster. Do I discern echoes of the late lamented Tugboat
here ?

Stewart Fleming said:

gym gravity said:

gym gravity said:

get a load of this:

Three important doping substances to consider are erythropoietin
(EPO), growth hormone (GH), and the anabolic steroid testosterone.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7039.0.html

(he also thinks EPO is produced in bacteria)

He doesn't specifically mention that growth hormone is
performance-enhancing.
He does mention Chinese hamster ovaries as a source of EPO, which is
more amusing than the two examples you quote...

Wow, I *swear* on the life of my tropical fish and the grave of the pet
garter snake I had as an 8 year old...Velonews edited that article. It
first said bacteria.

Really, CHO cells are more interesting than people stealing EPO,
skimming off the full strength drug, diluting the rest and reselling it
on the open market so sickly folks with liver and kidney disease can suffer?

Stewart Fleming said:

gym gravity said:

gym gravity said:

get a load of this:

Three important doping substances to consider are erythropoietin
(EPO), growth hormone (GH), and the anabolic steroid testosterone.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7039.0.html

(he also thinks EPO is produced in bacteria)

He doesn't specifically mention that growth hormone is
performance-enhancing.
He does mention Chinese hamster ovaries as a source of EPO, which is
more amusing than the two examples you quote...

And Procrit too...

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2003/NEW00877.html

Coincidence?

Stewart Fleming <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

gym gravity said:

gym gravity said:

get a load of this:

Three important doping substances to consider are erythropoietin
(EPO), growth hormone (GH), and the anabolic steroid testosterone.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7039.0.html

(he also thinks EPO is produced in bacteria)

He doesn't specifically mention that growth hormone is
performance-enhancing.
He does mention Chinese hamster ovaries as a source of EPO, which is
more amusing than the two examples you quote...

Engineered Chinese Hamster Ovary CELLS are used in biotechnology to
produce protein products. That way they are more likely properly
glycosylated and folded than if produced in bacteria engineered for
protein production. There is also less prblem with endotoxins during
purification and production. In other words they don't use hamsters
they use a hamster cell line.

gym gravity said:

And Procrit too...

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2003/NEW00877.html

Coincidence?

This will really bake your noodle:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6122116/

Stewart Fleming said:

This will really bake your noodle:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6122116/

That's just great. Now I can never sign my posts "ED" again.

E.