computer with cadence

Mick said:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a trip computer that measures cadence?

I currently have a Cateye Mity 3 which is pretty much bullet proof and has
served me well for many years. I was looking at a Cateye Astrale 8 but it
gets some poor reviews on mtbr.com

It's for a Rocky Mountain MTB in the midst of an identity crisis. I think I
want a roadie but for now I'm running 1.25 slicks and just trying to get
faster.

Thanks,
Mick

Hi

There appear to be not too many computers with cadence out there. Heart
rate appears to have been the new cadence for some years now.

Nevertheless:
Cateye's Astrale is still in their current range,
http://www.cateye.com/en/products/viewProduct.php?modelId=4&catId=6&subCatId=0
and there are sensor kits and earlier model computer units available at
bike shops.
The cable kits are a little fragile - they damage easily. The computer
units also tend to "lose touch" with the sensor kits. However if you
are prepared to do some fiddly soldering, they can be made to last
pretty well, in my experience.

hth

p

Mick said:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a trip computer that measures cadence?

I currently have a Cateye Mity 3 which is pretty much bullet proof and has
served me well for many years. I was looking at a Cateye Astrale 8 but it
gets some poor reviews on mtbr.com

It's for a Rocky Mountain MTB in the midst of an identity crisis. I think I
want a roadie but for now I'm running 1.25 slicks and just trying to get
faster.

Thanks,
Mick

'pparently the Cateye CC-TR100 and CC-CD300DW have lots of whiz-bang
cadence (plus heart-rate) features...
http://www.cateye.com/en/products/viewProduct.php?modelId=1&catId=6&subCatId=0
http://www.cateye.com/en/products/viewProduct.php?modelId=2&catId=6&subCatId=0
Or something

"Mick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a trip computer that measures
cadence?

I currently have a Cateye Mity 3 which is pretty much bullet proof and has
served me well for many years. I was looking at a Cateye Astrale 8 but it
gets some poor reviews on mtbr.com

It's for a Rocky Mountain MTB in the midst of an identity crisis. I think
I want a roadie but for now I'm running 1.25 slicks and just trying to get
faster.

Thanks,
Mick

I use a sigma bc1600 which measures cadence but its on a road bike.
Not sure how well it'd go on a mtb over rough ground.
The cables are a little thinner than my old cateye enduro but theyre not
exactly waffffer thin.
Cecil walker were also selling them for $59 with the cadence kit so its a
pretty good buy. (www.cecilwalker.com.au)
You can reset individual measurements, it has a stopwatch and permanent
display of ave speed against your current speed (next to the current speed
it has an up arrow indicating faster than current ave, a dot for equal to
ave and a down arrow for slower than ave)
The screen and display is large so its easier to read than the older
cateyes.
Also the unit mounts to the bars using thick rubber band type things which
arent as dodgy as they sound (i was a bit skeptical at first but its stayed
solid since feb).

fred_nieman said:

Mick said:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a trip computer that measures cadence?

I currently have a Cateye Mity 3 which is pretty much bullet proof and has
served me well for many years. I was looking at a Cateye Astrale 8 but it
gets some poor reviews on mtbr.com

It's for a Rocky Mountain MTB in the midst of an identity crisis. I think I
want a roadie but for now I'm running 1.25 slicks and just trying to get
faster.

Thanks,
Mick

Hi

There appear to be not too many computers with cadence out there. Heart
rate appears to have been the new cadence for some years now.

Nevertheless:
Cateye's Astrale is still in their current range,
http://www.cateye.com/en/products/viewProduct.php?modelId=4&catId=6&subCatId=0
and there are sensor kits and earlier model computer units available at
bike shops.
The cable kits are a little fragile - they damage easily. The computer
units also tend to "lose touch" with the sensor kits. However if you
are prepared to do some fiddly soldering, they can be made to last
pretty well, in my experience.

hth

p

I use the Astrale 8 on my triathlon racing bike. The computer was
mounted on my handlebars but is now off the side of my profile bars.
I've never had a problem with the cadence part, EVER, I just check the
cable ties are tight. My speed sensor is on the front wheel (if I'd
known I was going to use an indoor trainer I would've put it on the
back) and I've had the following problems with sensors:
(1) once the guy in front stopped pedalling without warning half way up
a hill, our wheels clashed and it twisted my magnet around on the spoke;
(2) once travelling Brissie to Sydney for a race I accidentally twisted
the magnet around on the wheel.
The solution for both incidents was to loosen, twist and tighten and hey
presto all was good again.
Biggest thing with the Astrale 8 is to reset it before you jump on your
bike, particularly with winter gloves on, because mine has a tendency to
shoot off when I try to press on the front and underneath at the same
time (too close to the clip). I've never lost it when I'm NOT trying to
reset.

Tam

Dej said:

"Mick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a trip computer that measures
cadence?

I currently have a Cateye Mity 3 which is pretty much bullet proof and has
served me well for many years. I was looking at a Cateye Astrale 8 but it
gets some poor reviews on mtbr.com

It's for a Rocky Mountain MTB in the midst of an identity crisis. I think
I want a roadie but for now I'm running 1.25 slicks and just trying to get
faster.

Thanks,
Mick

I use a sigma bc1600 which measures cadence but its on a road bike.
Not sure how well it'd go on a mtb over rough ground.
The cables are a little thinner than my old cateye enduro but theyre not
exactly waffffer thin.
Cecil walker were also selling them for $59 with the cadence kit so its a
pretty good buy. (www.cecilwalker.com.au)
You can reset individual measurements, it has a stopwatch and permanent
display of ave speed against your current speed (next to the current speed
it has an up arrow indicating faster than current ave, a dot for equal to
ave and a down arrow for slower than ave)
The screen and display is large so its easier to read than the older
cateyes.
Also the unit mounts to the bars using thick rubber band type things which
arent as dodgy as they sound (i was a bit skeptical at first but its stayed
solid since feb).

I use the BC1600 on my training bike. It was really easy to fit, and the
rubber bands loop around securely. To prevent slipping AROUND the bar,
there's also double-sided tape underneath. The computer is removed from
the mount by twisting it, so it's really hard to lose accidentally.

I bought mine at Rebel Sport for about $70. I've had no problems. One of
the good things is that if you have two bikes or two different
wheelsets/sizes you can set two different wheelsize values in it - this
means you can get accurate distance/speed measurements without having to
reprogram your computer each use. It's got three main buttons, the top
left resets, the top right brings up cadence first and the bottom brings
up distance first - the two things I use most! Have been happy with it,
but not to the extent of wanting to replace the cateye on my racing
bike.

Tam

Mick said:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a trip computer that measures cadence?

I currently have a Cateye Mity 3 which is pretty much bullet proof and has
served me well for many years. I was looking at a Cateye Astrale 8 but it
gets some poor reviews on mtbr.com

It's for a Rocky Mountain MTB in the midst of an identity crisis. I think I
want a roadie but for now I'm running 1.25 slicks and just trying to get
faster.

Thanks,
Mick

I have the previous cateye Astrale model (with wires version). I'm in the 14K's on the current battery without problem.

Ritch

Dej said:

"Mick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a trip computer that measures
cadence?

I currently have a Cateye Mity 3 which is pretty much bullet proof and has
served me well for many years. I was looking at a Cateye Astrale 8 but it
gets some poor reviews on mtbr.com

It's for a Rocky Mountain MTB in the midst of an identity crisis. I think
I want a roadie but for now I'm running 1.25 slicks and just trying to get
faster.

Thanks,
Mick

I use a sigma bc1600 which measures cadence but its on a road bike.
Not sure how well it'd go on a mtb over rough ground.
The cables are a little thinner than my old cateye enduro but theyre not
exactly waffffer thin.
Cecil walker were also selling them for $59 with the cadence kit so its a
pretty good buy. (www.cecilwalker.com.au)
You can reset individual measurements, it has a stopwatch and permanent
display of ave speed against your current speed (next to the current speed
it has an up arrow indicating faster than current ave, a dot for equal to
ave and a down arrow for slower than ave)
The screen and display is large so its easier to read than the older
cateyes.
Also the unit mounts to the bars using thick rubber band type things which
arent as dodgy as they sound (i was a bit skeptical at first but its stayed
solid since feb).

I've a BC1600 on both MTB and Roadie and it doesn't miss a beat.

And they're extremely easy to fit/remove.

--
Nick

"Mick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

A question about a trip computer that measures cadence?

<snip... useful info on cadence computers>

Thanks everyone for the advice. Sounds like I'll be happy with either the
Astrale or BC1600.

I was on a ride last weekend and was told that working on my cadence over
longer distances was a good way to build up my average speed. I'm kind of in
no-mans (is that no-persons these days) land at the moment. I've been
joining in more organised group rides around BrisVegas lately in my
attempted transition from MTB to road but it seems they are either more
social rides averaging around 20kph, or the serious guys/gals who do at
least 30. I'm averaging around 26 (only over 30 to 50 k's) at the moment so
here's hoping buying a new computer will soon give me a good reason to buy a
new road bike :-)

Thanks all.
Mick

Mick said:

"Mick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

A question about a trip computer that measures cadence?

<snip... useful info on cadence computers>

Thanks everyone for the advice. Sounds like I'll be happy with either the
Astrale or BC1600.

I was on a ride last weekend and was told that working on my cadence over
longer distances was a good way to build up my average speed. I'm kind of in
no-mans (is that no-persons these days) land at the moment. I've been
joining in more organised group rides around BrisVegas lately in my
attempted transition from MTB to road but it seems they are either more
social rides averaging around 20kph, or the serious guys/gals who do at
least 30. I'm averaging around 26 (only over 30 to 50 k's) at the moment so
here's hoping buying a new computer will soon give me a good reason to buy a
new road bike :-)

Thanks all.
Mick

Hi,

I just purchased a another sigma 1600 from bike pro in surrey hills with cadence for $29.95, I have one on each of my bikes.
At this price they are a bargin!!!!

cheers humpy

"Mick" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I was on a ride last weekend and was told that working on my cadence over
longer distances was a good way to build up my average speed. I'm kind of

in

Do you know what cadence you're at now? Just
count pedal strokes for 10sec and multiply by 6.
Don't do it when you are belting down a hill :-)

Quoted message said:

social rides averaging around 20kph, or the serious guys/gals who do at
least 30. I'm averaging around 26 (only over 30 to 50 k's) at the moment

so

Quoted message said:

here's hoping buying a new computer will soon give me a good reason to buy

a

Quoted message said:

new road bike :-)

Is that 26kph by yourself? If so, you should be able to join
a 30kph bunch easily. If you ride with faster people, you will
get faster - simple. Find a faster bunch that has a coffee break
or rest stops in the middle, that way if you are dropped you
can catch up. e.g. BR(x) waits in a few locations.
Losing the bunch will teach you a couple of things:
1) how to suffer a bit to hang on
2) mental toughness for riding back home alone ;-)

hippy

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Quoted message said:

Do you know what cadence you're at now? Just
count pedal strokes for 10sec and multiply by 6.
Don't do it when you are belting down a hill :-)

No idea. I like the downhill idea though - on my smallest ring :-)
I'll give the 10sec test a go on some typical sections for me.

Quoted message said:

Is that 26kph by yourself? If so, you should be able to join
a 30kph bunch easily. If you ride with faster people, you will
get faster - simple. Find a faster bunch that has a coffee break
or rest stops in the middle, that way if you are dropped you
can catch up. e.g. BR(x) waits in a few locations.
Losing the bunch will teach you a couple of things:
1) how to suffer a bit to hang on
2) mental toughness for riding back home alone ;-)

hippy

Ya, that's 26 on my own. I was thinking of trying to stick with
a group doing around 30 and just hold on for as long as
possible. Gives me something to aim for too, trying to stay
in touch for longer each week. Thanks Hippy.

umm... what is BR? :$

Mick

hippy said:

"Mick" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I was on a ride last weekend and was told that working on my cadence over
longer distances was a good way to build up my average speed. I'm kind of

in

Do you know what cadence you're at now? Just
count pedal strokes for 10sec and multiply by 6.
Don't do it when you are belting down a hill :-)

Quoted message said:

social rides averaging around 20kph, or the serious guys/gals who do at
least 30. I'm averaging around 26 (only over 30 to 50 k's) at the moment

so

Quoted message said:

here's hoping buying a new computer will soon give me a good reason to buy

a

Quoted message said:

new road bike :-)

Is that 26kph by yourself? If so, you should be able to join
a 30kph bunch easily. If you ride with faster people, you will
get faster - simple. Find a faster bunch that has a coffee break
or rest stops in the middle, that way if you are dropped you
can catch up. e.g. BR(x) waits in a few locations.
Losing the bunch will teach you a couple of things:
1) how to suffer a bit to hang on
2) mental toughness for riding back home alone ;-)

hippy

Or frequent toilet stops.

Golden rule - someone will stick with you if you don't know the way.
Next time, you're the one who will hang back. Then you can be prepared
for hauling some huge undertrained gym junkie up and down the mountains.
*flashbacks* God that was painful. The wind was so strong that we had to
pedal DOWN the mountains in order to keep rolling.

Coach always drops me on the long rides. Sunday rides aren't so bad.
Leaving from Albany Ck. Group rides are free as they should be
http://www.protriathloncoach.com.au

T

"phamcam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi,

I just purchased a another sigma 1600 from bike pro in surrey hills
with cadence for $29.95, I have one on each of my bikes.
At this price they are a bargin!!!!

cheers humpy

--
phamcam

I just phoned Bike Pro and they are still selling the 1600, plus cadence
kit,
plus free postage for $29.95 (even though their web site says sold out).

That decided it. Thanks humpy.

Mick

Mick said:

Ya, that's 26 on my own. I was thinking of trying to stick with
a group doing around 30 and just hold on for as long as
possible. Gives me something to aim for too, trying to stay
in touch for longer each week. Thanks Hippy.

Hi Mick,
Depending on where you are there's a few bunch rides that you'd
probably go ok on. On most of these rides theres a short cut if you're
not quite up to speed. Just ask someone.

1. Star Cafe at Southbank Saturday 6am. Two groups, fast and
errr....not so fast. 2nd group (and sometimes a 3rd group) does
about 30kph. Very friendly bunch and there are 3 different rides
Airport/Nudgee Beach, Redcliffe, and Cleveland/Wynnum.
There's also a toilet break at halfway, so you can always catch up.

2. Wed 5:30am Cycleogical Montague Rd West End - River Loop.
About 30kph av again.

3. Tom Wallace Cycles Lutwyche Thurs 5:30am - Sandgate and back.
Maybe 28-29kph ave.

Hope this helps,
Adam

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Quoted message said:

Hi Mick,
Depending on where you are there's a few bunch rides that you'd
probably go ok on. On most of these rides theres a short cut if you're
not quite up to speed. Just ask someone.

1. Star Cafe at Southbank Saturday 6am. Two groups, fast and
errr....not so fast. 2nd group (and sometimes a 3rd group) does
about 30kph. Very friendly bunch and there are 3 different rides
Airport/Nudgee Beach, Redcliffe, and Cleveland/Wynnum.
There's also a toilet break at halfway, so you can always catch up.

2. Wed 5:30am Cycleogical Montague Rd West End - River Loop.
About 30kph av again.

3. Tom Wallace Cycles Lutwyche Thurs 5:30am - Sandgate and back.
Maybe 28-29kph ave.

Hope this helps,
Adam

Hey Adam.

I live on the south side. I tried a BQ ride a couple of weeks ago
which left from Southbank but found it a bit slow.

The Star Cafe ride sounds good. Can't make it this Sat but I'll
definitely give it a try.

Thanks,
Mick

"Mick" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Ya, that's 26 on my own. I was thinking of trying to stick with
a group doing around 30 and just hold on for as long as
possible. Gives me something to aim for too, trying to stay
in touch for longer each week. Thanks Hippy.

If you can hold a wheel, you'll be fine. If not, you'll
soon learn :-)

Quoted message said:

umm... what is BR? :$

Bunch Ride (x) e.g. Bunch Ride 17, the highly
imaginative name for a NE suburbs bunch ride
in Melbourne. Quite a few pros use it for Sun
morning altitude training.. ;-)

hippy

Mick said:

"adam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi Mick,
Depending on where you are there's a few bunch rides that you'd
probably go ok on. On most of these rides theres a short cut if you're
not quite up to speed. Just ask someone.

1. Star Cafe at Southbank Saturday 6am. Two groups, fast and
errr....not so fast. 2nd group (and sometimes a 3rd group) does
about 30kph. Very friendly bunch and there are 3 different rides
Airport/Nudgee Beach, Redcliffe, and Cleveland/Wynnum.
There's also a toilet break at halfway, so you can always catch up.

2. Wed 5:30am Cycleogical Montague Rd West End - River Loop.
About 30kph av again.

3. Tom Wallace Cycles Lutwyche Thurs 5:30am - Sandgate and back.
Maybe 28-29kph ave.

Hope this helps,
Adam

Hey Adam.

I live on the south side. I tried a BQ ride a couple of weeks ago
which left from Southbank but found it a bit slow.

The Star Cafe ride sounds good. Can't make it this Sat but I'll
definitely give it a try.

Thanks,
Mick

How far southside, Mick? I know a few guys who ride out there... well, I
haven't ridden with them yet but I plan to, and now I've moved I'm keen
to meet people to ride with. Eight Mile Plains.

T

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Quoted message said:

How far southside, Mick? I know a few guys who ride out there... well, I
haven't ridden with them yet but I plan to, and now I've moved I'm keen
to meet people to ride with. Eight Mile Plains.

T

Hey Tamyka,

I'm at Mt Gravatt.

"phamcam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi,

I just purchased a another sigma 1600 from bike pro in surrey hills
with cadence for $29.95, I have one on each of my bikes.
At this price they are a bargin!!!!

cheers humpy

--
phamcam

Hey humpy,
[tried to email you but it just bounced]

Quick question...

My computer arrived today - Woohoo!
Although all the bits came separated in a small post pack, i.e. no
packaging. I assume that was to save on postage which is fine
by me.

Anyway, attaching the cadence wire to the computer mounting
bracket... do they just push onto those two lugs on the back?
I don't want to push too hard and break something.
Does it matter which one goes on which side?

Thanks,
Mick