Paddington - Kings Cross

"Jon Senior" <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk> wrote in message
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I have an AtoZ of Nodnol but if anyone could suggest a decent (Not too
manic) route from Paddington to Kings Cross that would be great.

Manic? You mean, as in along the Marylebone/Euston Road? Actually it's
quite doable, although perhaps not much fun. Traffic of the motorised
variety can be fast or slow depending on time of day, except for motorcycles
which are fast all the time. Otherwise there's a sort of dog-leggedy route
from Sussex Gdns - Old Marylebone Road - Homer Row - Crawford St -
Paddington St - Weymouth St - Clipstone St - Maple St - University St -
Torrington Place - Tavistock Place etc that will get you there - mostly
signposted as a cycle route.

Rich

Jon Senior said:

The wonders of the rail system mean that the return leg of my holiday to
Cornwall either has to be a day earlier than intended or has to go via
London (I doubt that the bus from Gloucester to Birmingham will take my
bike!).

If it is outside of peak times you can take your bike on the
Hammersmith and City Line!

You'll have to get it up and down a couple of flights of steps - so might
not be great for a laden touring bike.

Jon Senior said:

The wonders of the rail system mean that the return leg of my holiday to
Cornwall either has to be a day earlier than intended or has to go via
London (I doubt that the bus from Gloucester to Birmingham will take my
bike!).

I have an AtoZ of Nodnol but if anyone could suggest a decent (Not too
manic) route from Paddington to Kings Cross that would be great.

Jon

Try http://www.cyclemaps.com. Enter your start and destination and it
will give you a map and directions. If you want a more detailed map to
transfer to your AtoZ you could try the dreadful LCN Webmap which is
virtually unusable but gives a street level mapping of the cycle routes
in London - http://www.londoncyclenetwork.org.uk/webmap/default.asp

Tony

Tony Raven <[email hidden]> wrote in news:2u1ik3F230phuU1@uni-
berlin.de:

Quoted message said:

Try http://www.cyclemaps.com. Enter your start and destination and it
will give you a map and directions. If you want a more detailed map to
transfer to your AtoZ you could try the dreadful LCN Webmap which is
virtually unusable but gives a street level mapping of the cycle routes
in London - http://www.londoncyclenetwork.org.uk/webmap/default.asp

I tried the cyclemaps link for my commute. I'm not entirely convinced by its
route. It took some rather twisty routes through London on back streets and
various cycle paths when the major roads would be better. It also advises
going the wrong way on two one-way streets! Not a bad starting point, but
needs a bit of tweaking.

--
Chris

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Quoted message said:

Jon Senior said:

The wonders of the rail system mean that the return leg of my holiday to
Cornwall either has to be a day earlier than intended or has to go via
London (I doubt that the bus from Gloucester to Birmingham will take my
bike!).

If it is outside of peak times you can take your bike on the
Hammersmith and City Line!

You'll have to get it up and down a couple of flights of steps - so might
not be great for a laden touring bike.

Actually the Circle Line would be better as there are very few steps to the
platforms at either Paddington or KingsX - taking a bike on the "shallow"
underground lines is perfectly OK after about 0930 and before 1600, although
you do get some strange looks! - I've done it without problem.

As a previous poster said the ride along Marylebone Road/Euston Road is not
too bad at all - again, I've done it and IIRC there are bus lanes most of
the way (just remember not to go down the Euston underpass!)

RG

Jon Senior said:

I have an AtoZ of Nodnol but if anyone could suggest a decent (Not too
manic) route from Paddington to Kings Cross that would be great.

Personally, I see no need to look beyond the Marylebone/Euston Road
route - it's the most obvious, most direct and fastest. Yes, the traffic
can be heavy, but it's not that bad a road for cycling on - it's the
stretch /beyond/ King's Cross where it gets nasty.

d.

Jon Senior said:

I have an AtoZ of Nodnol but if anyone could suggest a decent (Not too
manic) route from Paddington to Kings Cross that would be great.

Have you got the free LCC / TfL maps? If you've got three or four
months before the holiday you could order them and see if they help.

regards, Ian SMith
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Ian Smith [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

Have you got the free LCC / TfL maps? If you've got three or four
months before the holiday you could order them and see if they help.

About 1 week till I hit London. And that's not really part of the
holiday.

Thanks for all the advice folks, I'll probably end up on the main road,
I don't actually mind them that much, I just wondered if there was an
obvious-to-a-local quiet route between them.

Jon

"Monkey Hanger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Tony Raven <[email hidden]> wrote in news:2u1ik3F230phuU1@uni-
berlin.de:

http://www.londoncyclenetwork.org.uk/webmap/default.asp

Quoted message said:

I tried the cyclemaps link for my commute. I'm not entirely convinced by
its
route. It took some rather twisty routes through London on back streets
and
various cycle paths when the major roads would be better. It also advises
going the wrong way on two one-way streets! Not a bad starting point, but
needs a bit of tweaking.

That's no doubt because it's marking out where the cycle paths and
'recommended' quiet/traffic calmed roads are. The avoidance of major roads
is by design, even if experienced cyclists will feel happy to use them. If
it suggests the wrong way on one way streets, I suspect it's probably
because there is a contra-flow cycle lane on them.

Rich

Jon Senior said:

Ian Smith [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

Have you got the free LCC / TfL maps? If you've got three or four
months before the holiday you could order them and see if they help.

About 1 week till I hit London. And that's not really part of the
holiday.

Thanks for all the advice folks, I'll probably end up on the main road,
I don't actually mind them that much, I just wondered if there was an
obvious-to-a-local quiet route between them.

Come a little south of the Marylebone/Euston Road and try to keep in
an easterly direction. I say try because that whole area is a maze of
one way streets. Whether it is worth the hassle of this
suck-it-and-see approach kind of depends on how long you have to make
the connection.

There's no such thing as a quiet road in central London,even with the
congestion charge.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Phil Cook [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

Come a little south of the Marylebone/Euston Road and try to keep in
an easterly direction. I say try because that whole area is a maze of
one way streets. Whether it is worth the hassle of this
suck-it-and-see approach kind of depends on how long you have to make
the connection.

Assuming no delays (Hah!) I have an hour for the connection, but if I
miss my outgoing train then I think I end up cycling from Newcastle to
Edinburgh cause they're running a replacement bus to cover that route
later in the day!

Given that there is "Essential engineering works" going on on every
section of rail every weekend and has been for all the I've been
covering large distances by rail, you'd think we'd have a decent system
by now... wouldn't you?

Quoted message said:

There's no such thing as a quiet road in central London,even with the
congestion charge.

In general I don't mind traffic and tend to prefer main roads if only
because the sightlines are better. If you hear of tailbacks in the area
on Sat 30th, it'll be my fault for ambling down the centre of a lane on
a laden recumbent. :-)

Jon

"Richard Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

http://www.londoncyclenetwork.org.uk/webmap/default.asp

Actually I tried http://www.cyclemaps.com.

Quoted message said:

"Monkey Hanger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I tried the cyclemaps link for my commute. I'm not entirely convinced
by its route. It took some rather twisty routes through London on back
streets and various cycle paths when the major roads would be better.
It also advises going the wrong way on two one-way streets! Not a bad
starting point, but needs a bit of tweaking.

That's no doubt because it's marking out where the cycle paths and
'recommended' quiet/traffic calmed roads are. The avoidance of major
roads is by design, even if experienced cyclists will feel happy to use
them. If it suggests the wrong way on one way streets, I suspect it's
probably because there is a contra-flow cycle lane on them.

I suspect that you are right about the cycle paths and recommended roads. I
used to use them myself to avoid the pollution. Now I just ride faster on the
main roads.

I only know one of the one-way streets and it has about 10 metres of contra-
flow cycle lane at the end. And that usually has a car illegally parked on
it. The rest of the road has to be walked along.

--
Chris

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:39:45 +0100 someone who may be Tony Raven
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

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Try http://www.cyclemaps.com. Enter your start and destination and it
will give you a map and directions.

Good idea. However, it appears to only work for London, though does
not appear to mention this "minor" fact anywhere.

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On 24/10/04 3:35 pm, in article [email hidden],

Jon Senior' jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk said:

Phil Cook [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

Come a little south of the Marylebone/Euston Road and try to keep in
an easterly direction. I say try because that whole area is a maze of
one way streets. Whether it is worth the hassle of this
suck-it-and-see approach kind of depends on how long you have to make
the connection.

Assuming no delays (Hah!) I have an hour for the connection, but if I
miss my outgoing train then I think I end up cycling from Newcastle to
Edinburgh cause they're running a replacement bus to cover that route
later in the day!

Take the main road. If you don't know the way then the simplest navigation
is the best.

Basic guide:

From Paddington go to the lowest numbered end of the concourse and head out
via the car ramp parallel to platform 1. when you get on the car ramp you
may be able to turn left. If so, do.

When you reach the road, turn left so you are heading east along Praed
street (I think that is the one.)

You will come to the Edgeware Road. You can either cross over and hit the
main Euston road at Gt Portland street or turn left then turn right just
after the flyover (literally.)

Follow the Euston road to King's Cross. You really can't miss it.

Don't faff with the parallel routes otherwise you risk missing the
connection as you'll spend too long navigating.

Quoted message said:

Given that there is "Essential engineering works" going on on every
section of rail every weekend and has been for all the I've been
covering large distances by rail, you'd think we'd have a decent system
by now... wouldn't you?

Quoted message said:

There's no such thing as a quiet road in central London,even with the
congestion charge.

In general I don't mind traffic and tend to prefer main roads if only
because the sightlines are better. If you hear of tailbacks in the area
on Sat 30th, it'll be my fault for ambling down the centre of a lane on
a laden recumbent. :-)

Shouldn't be a problem. The Euston Underpass is not too bad but can be
avoided by going over the junction at the top.

...d

"Monkey Hanger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Richard Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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http://www.londoncyclenetwork.org.uk/webmap/default.asp

Actually I tried http://www.cyclemaps.com.

Ah yes, that's rather different. I note that it seems to have a 'direct
route' option for subscribers. The free route info is the 'cycle path and
minor road' option, which must explain why that's what you got. It would
take me on quite a detour for my commute too! Although subscription is
only £15 a year, I think for the money I'd rather just buy an A-Z, and/or
maybe use the free TfL maps! I wonder how likely it is to succeed as a
commercial venture?

Rich

Jon Senior said:

The wonders of the rail system mean that the return leg of my holiday
to Cornwall either has to be a day earlier than intended or has to go
via London (I doubt that the bus from Gloucester to Birmingham will
take my bike!).

I have an AtoZ of Nodnol but if anyone could suggest a decent (Not too
manic) route from Paddington to Kings Cross that would be great.

Jon

I used to love cycling in London, you have the nerve, its very rewarding.

David Hansen said:

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:39:45 +0100 someone who may be Tony Raven
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

Try http://www.cyclemaps.com. Enter your start and destination and it
will give you a map and directions.

Good idea. However, it appears to only work for London, though does
not appear to mention this "minor" fact anywhere.

I know the Scottish contingent have a thing about it but its a bit much
expecting Jon to cycle outside of London just to go from Paddington to
Kings Cross ;-)

Tony

PS If you look on the Subscriptions page it says " At present the map
database covers the Greater London area and up to the M25."

"Martin Newstead (MSeries)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Jon Senior said:

The wonders of the rail system mean that the return leg of my holiday
to Cornwall either has to be a day earlier than intended or has to go
via London (I doubt that the bus from Gloucester to Birmingham will
take my bike!).

I have an AtoZ of Nodnol but if anyone could suggest a decent (Not too
manic) route from Paddington to Kings Cross that would be great.

Jon

I used to love cycling in London, you have the nerve, its very rewarding.

I use this route but easy to lose your way; it does a few alleyways but all
signposted. Use the tube as a last resort only, it will be double the time
you can ride it in.

http://www.londoncyclenetwork.org.uk/uploaded_files/library/documents/LCN_MA
P_2004.pdf

Tony Raven said:

PS If you look on the Subscriptions page it says " At present the map
database covers the Greater London area and up to the M25."

The Transport for London Journey Planner can be coaxed into giving you
cycle routes.
Edit the search options and deselect almost everything.
Check 'Use Cycle and Ride' and decide to cycle longer than 10 minutes.
http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk

24 minutes by TfL reckonign from Paddington to Kings Cross.
Route suggested is the backstreet one described earler I think.

Go on. Laugh if you will.
The 'I'd rather walk if it makes my journey quicker' box
is ticked off by default.
Then again it IS pissing down with rain at the moment...