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Changing the gearing on a crankset?

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  1. Hello,

    I'm trying to put together a road bike. It's my first attempt at building a
    bike from the frame up.

    For gearing, I'm looking at using a 32-42-52T crankset, or something in
    that area.

    Right now, I have two cranksets. Both are geared for a mountain bike. One
    is a Shimano Altus 24-34-42T; the other is a Shimano Hyperdrive-C. The
    Hyperdrive is installed on my mountain bike right now, and it's covered
    with grime, so I didn't want to touch it 🙂 but it looks to be nearly the
    same size as the Altus.

    I was wondering if it's possible to take either of these apart, use the
    large and middle sized chainrings, discard the small one, and add a big
    52T ring. It doesn't look like they can be taken apart, but I haven't
    tried prying/pulling/twisting anything, as I don't really know what to
    look for, and I don't want to break or bend either of these.

    Any advice you can give would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    ---
    Sean Cunningham
    [email hidden]

  2. Sean M. Cunningham said:

    I was wondering if it's possible to take either of these apart, use the
    large and middle sized chainrings, discard the small one, and add a big
    52T ring.

    No. the smallest one uses a smaller circle of bolts to attach it.

    Quoted message said:

    It doesn't look like they can be taken apart, but I haven't
    tried prying/pulling/twisting anything, as I don't really know what to
    look for, and I don't want to break or bend either of these.

    Well, some cheaper MTB cranksets indeed are impossible to take apart
    (don't bother with it in that case), but most have 4 or 5 bolts holding
    the bigger two rings on, and the same number, accessible from the inside,
    for the smallest ring.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | Accept risk. Accept responsibility. Put a lawyer out of
    _`\(,_ | business.
    (_)/ (_) |

  3. There's no visible bolts on either, so I'm assuming they can't be taken
    apart. I thought that might be the case, but I'm new to all this and just
    wanted to see if there was something I was missing.

    Thanks for the help.

    ---
    Sean Cunningham
    [email hidden]

    David L. Johnson said:
    Sean M. Cunningham said:

    I was wondering if it's possible to take either of these apart, use the
    large and middle sized chainrings, discard the small one, and add a big
    52T ring.

    No. the smallest one uses a smaller circle of bolts to attach it.

    Quoted message said:

    It doesn't look like they can be taken apart, but I haven't
    tried prying/pulling/twisting anything, as I don't really know what to
    look for, and I don't want to break or bend either of these.

    Well, some cheaper MTB cranksets indeed are impossible to take apart
    (don't bother with it in that case), but most have 4 or 5 bolts holding
    the bigger two rings on, and the same number, accessible from the inside,
    for the smallest ring.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | Accept risk. Accept responsibility. Put a lawyer out of
    _`\(,_ | business.
    (_)/ (_) |

  4. On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:21:33 -0400, Sean M. Cunningham <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    There's no visible bolts on either, so I'm assuming they can't be taken
    apart. I thought that might be the case, but I'm new to all this and just
    wanted to see if there was something I was missing.

    Thanks for the help.

    ---
    Sean Cunningham
    [email hidden]

    David L. Johnson said:
    Sean M. Cunningham said:

    I was wondering if it's possible to take either of these apart, use


    the

    Quoted message said:

    large and middle sized chainrings, discard the small one, and add a


    big

    Quoted message said:

    52T ring.

    No. the smallest one uses a smaller circle of bolts to attach it.

    Quoted message said:

    It doesn't look like they can be taken apart, but I haven't
    tried prying/pulling/twisting anything, as I don't really know what to
    look for, and I don't want to break or bend either of these.

    Well, some cheaper MTB cranksets indeed are impossible to take apart
    (don't bother with it in that case), but most have 4 or 5 bolts holding
    the bigger two rings on, and the same number, accessible from the
    inside,
    for the smallest ring.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | Accept risk. Accept responsibility. Put a lawyer out of
    _`\(,_ | business.
    (_)/ (_) |


    What he said. Actually there is more to it than meets the casual eye.
    There are 2 different sizes of bottom bracket with the newer ones
    being the smaller. The smaller ones will allow a super granny gear,
    like 22 teeth to be mounted. It should also be obvious that the one
    piece cranks are the Chinese [censored] and to stay away from the whole bike.
    There are many variations on the changeable chainring also, with some
    having the larger two rings riveted together, the cheapest kind.
    Then you have the issue of 4 bolts or 5. I use a 5 bolt that allows
    for changing each ring to whatever will fit. The two large ones use
    one set of bolts and the small one its own. I have a 40-48 combo for
    the large right now but did have a 40-56 for a while. It is kind of
    fun playing with the gearing until you are happy with it. Just make
    sure that the chain is the right length for what you settle on.
    Last but not least is the mount to the bracket itself. I use the
    square taper and found out that even those are not standard. Some
    have the square sides parallel to the crank and some are rotated
    45 degrees. There are also some star pattern mounts, and there is
    a variation on the square ones in that some use a shoulder nut and
    some use a allen screw.
    Simple questions sometimes get complicated results.
    I found out by buying a few hundred dollars worth of bike stuff
    on E-bay.
    Best of luck
    Bill Baka

  5. On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:21:33 -0400, Sean M. Cunningham <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    There's no visible bolts on either, so I'm assuming they can't be taken
    apart. I thought that might be the case, but I'm new to all this and just
    wanted to see if there was something I was missing.

    Thanks for the help.

    ---
    Sean Cunningham
    [email hidden]


    I forgot one thing. You will need a puller to get the crank off if you
    want to change it for some extra versatility, like 170mm or 175mm crank
    lengths or 4~5 bolts.
    Bill Baka

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