Over Pronation / Medial Ligament

"JonnoWeb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hi,

I have now been running for about 2 months for fitness/weight loss

purposes.

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I generally run 3 miles 3-4 times a week and over the last couple of

weeks

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have noticed some irritation in my inner knee (what I have since

discovered

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is my medial ligament). I visited a physio yesterday and he

recommended

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icing the joint after running, but also to visit a podiatrist, as well

as

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getting some trainers from a specialist running store - which I am

doing

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next week anyway. This is due to my apparently severe over-pronation.

I'd back down from running until you get a good pair of shoes and allow
the tender area to heal. When you go to the specialty store bring your
old shoes. The wear pattern on the sole along with watching you walk/run
will help the shoe person determine the severity of your pronation and
whether to put you in a motion control or stability model.

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What
I am not sure of is that if I buy the correct footwear what else will

a

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podiatrist be able to do, aside from telling me to rest and run less?

It the person at the shoe store tells you are a severe pronator and the
new kicks don't help, then you may need some custom ortotics to correct
your imbalance. I would try as little rest, maybe some quad
strengthening exercises and the new shoes first.

-DougF

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I'd back down from running until you get a good pair of shoes and allow
the tender area to heal. When you go to the specialty store bring your
old shoes. The wear pattern on the sole along with watching you walk/run
will help the shoe person determine the severity of your pronation and
whether to put you in a motion control or stability model.

The dumbass is right. First buy a pair of Asics 2090's, arguably the best MC
shoe on the market today (the shoe guy said he gets far better MC feedback from
customers on the 2090 than all other brands combined), then give it a month.
Write back.

"TheBillRodgerz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'd back down from running until you get a good pair of shoes and allow
the tender area to heal. When you go to the specialty store bring your
old shoes. The wear pattern on the sole along with watching you walk/run
will help the shoe person determine the severity of your pronation and
whether to put you in a motion control or stability model.

The dumbass is right. First buy a pair of Asics 2090's, arguably the best

MC

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shoe on the market today (the shoe guy said he gets far better MC feedback

from

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customers on the 2090 than all other brands combined), then give it a

month.

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Write back.

I have found the 2090's are not as good as the 2080's. I've moved off of
the 20xx series now as it's going down the wrong path for me, so I'm using
the DS trainer instead.

--
Brian Wakem

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I have found the 2090's are not as good as the 2080's.

For you maybe, but the 2090 is just a heavy duty version of the 2080, so to say
the 2080 is a better shoe is kind of dumb. But my point remains the same, they
get more favorable feedback on Asics MC shoes than all others combined.

"TheBillRodgerz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have found the 2090's are not as good as the 2080's.

For you maybe, but the 2090 is just a heavy duty version of the 2080

Too much so IMO and there is a big difference between the two. Moving to
the 2090's felt like moving from trainers to clogs for me.

--
Brian Wakem

"Brian Wakem" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have found the 2090's are not as good as the 2080's. I've moved off of
the 20xx series now as it's going down the wrong path for me, so I'm using
the DS trainer instead.

:-) Strange. I'm moving *away* from the DS range for the same reason.

Round and round we go, all having fun together...

JonnoWeb wrote:

What

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I am not sure of is that if I buy the correct footwear what else will a
podiatrist be able to do, aside from telling me to rest and run less?

My podiatrist didn't tell me anything the first time I had AT from
overpronation, but he did make custom orthotics for me, which helped
somewhat.

The second time round with AT (because the underlying cause was still
there), my new *physical therapist* gave me strengthening exercises for
the feet / ankles as well as correcting some muscle imbalances. That has
gotten me a lot farther along, but I'm still not completely convinced
that my feet don't need more support in the forefoot area, which is
where I'm weak. In the meantime, I'm just careful about where I run and
mileage buildup.

Your experience may vary depending on training / interests / skills of
your local practitioners.

Dot

"Brian Wakem" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have found the 2090's are not as good as the 2080's. I've moved off

of

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the 20xx series now as it's going down the wrong path for me, so I'm

using

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the DS trainer instead.

Me too Brian. I loved the 20nn series until the 90's. If I run more than
1.5 hours the ball of my feet feel like they have been pounded with a
ball peen hammer. I'm into the NB 1221's and they seem just ok at least
through a 5 hour run. I looked at the Keno and they have the same
[censored] pattern as the 2090's. The trainers are way too light for my 175
pounds on trails. Not much left in the Asics line that come in 13 EE
width.

I'm still looking. I'm doing the Vermont 50 in Sept with the 1221's.
That will be the real test.

-DougF

"TheBillRodgerz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have found the 2090's are not as good as the 2080's.

For you maybe, but the 2090 is just a heavy duty version of the 2080,

so to say

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the 2080 is a better shoe is kind of dumb.

Why it is dumb? Look, the shoe works for you and this is fine. The 20nn
has been making changes with each NN and for some the changes were
positive and for others it sucked. This time the changes made suck and I
don't give rats ass if this model gives you a boner. Other people in a
different forum are having the same problem. This does not make them bad
but does raise some questions at least from distance runners which you
sure as hell ain't . The real proof with be in the model to follow the
90's. If the sales numbers are down they will make changes.

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But my point remains the same, they
get more favorable feedback on Asics MC shoes than all others

combined.

Don't disagree but some people's treasure is others trash. Some still
love Bush lies and all! Get the point Willie?

-doug

Thanks for all the feedback guys, I visited my GP and he advised just
changing running shoes for now as this should alleviate my problems.
Visited the shop yesterday and came away with a very comfortable pair
of Asics 2090's, so hopefully these will make a difference to the
neutral pair of Adidas cross trainers I have been using.

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pair
of Asics 2090's, so hopefully these will make a difference to the
neutral pair of Adidas cross trainers I have been using.

You got the best MC shoe on the market today.

TheBillRodgerz said:

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pair
of Asics 2090's, so hopefully these will make a difference to the
neutral pair of Adidas cross trainers I have been using.

You got the best MC shoe on the market today.

I thought 2090 was stability, not MC.

Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/