New to running, how do I overcome shortness of breath?

Quoted message said:

I've
given up smoking recently beliving my endurance would finally take off
but alas it has not.

How old are you? How long did you smoke for? How long since you quit? Without
these answers nobody can help you. But as a former smoker who now does 9 miles
a day I'll tell you it takes years for your lungs to improve, so just be
patient.

Another fitness indicator is your resting pulse rate. As you watch that over
the months, it should drop a few beats. Compare to a number from your last
physical. Dont obsess over this number, because stress, small illnesses
like colds, not getting enough sleep and even a large meal can make it go
up temporarily.

Generally the only cardivascular shortcuts are blood doping and stimulants.
Both are temporary. A US guy just lost his Olympic medals for infusing extra
red blood cells. They found multiple DNA types in his blood.

Jayk Stone said:

I've been sedintary for most of my life and recently decided to get
into good physical condition. I've been on a walking regime (some
light jogging) for about ~12 weeks. I'm wanting to run but I'm finding
that I become winded very quickly and I have no endurance at all. I've

This is fairly normal, especially if you're out of shape to begin with. It
takes a while to bring about the adaptions that lead to endurance performance
and if you're overweight, that's also a major hinderence.

Just keep at it.

Quoted message said:

given up smoking recently beliving my endurance would finally take off
but alas it has not. Is there anything I can do to make serious gains
in my cardiovascular system?

Jog continuously at a very slow pace (5mph or so). If you can't hold a pace
of 5mph, then walk-run until you can. Do this for a couple of months and unless
you're overweight or very old, you should be able to hold a steady pace.

Quoted message said:

I've noticed in the body building arena there is a huge market of
products that help people advance and overcome thier genetics to
become ripped.

Most bodybuilding supplements are garbage.

Quoted message said:

Will any of those products help me get back my cardiovascular strength?

If you're overweight, losing weight will make it easier to run.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Jayk Stone said:

I've been sedintary for most of my life and recently decided to get
into good physical condition. I've been on a walking regime (some
light jogging) for about ~12 weeks. I'm wanting to run but I'm finding
that I become winded very quickly and I have no endurance at all. I've
given up smoking recently beliving my endurance would finally take off
but alas it has not. Is there anything I can do to make serious gains
in my cardiovascular system?

You're confusing "endurance" with "work capacity" (or something
like that). I worked out on an elliptical machine for many months
before I felt comfortable shifting to running and I recorded the
"calories burned" time.

I noticed that each month or so I could comfortably work out (for
30-45 minutes) at the level that was a challenge just within my
abilities just six weeks earlier. In hard numbers my "comfort
zone" was increasing by about 50 cal/month. At one point I even
hopped on a treadmill briefly to get the calories required to run
slowly, did the math, and got an estimate for how long it would
take me to run (4 months). That was fairly accurate - I was
run/walking long before that, but it was about 4 more months
before I could comfortably run without breaks for the same duration.

That's work capacity.

Endurance is how long you can maintain that level of effort, and
aerobic endurance can be increased faster than work capacity.
That's why it's easier to add distance than speed.

In my recent experience it took me about six months to increase my
work capacity from sedentary to someone who could just run 3 miles
without a break. Usually. In the following six months my work
capacity only improved enough to change a 12:00 (or slower?) pace
at 3 miles to a 9:30 pace at 5 miles. But my endurance went from
around 45 minutes (4 miles) to 5+ hours (marathon this weekend).

In your case you have the work capacity to run/walk, but not
enough to run continuously. Have patience and don't push it -
you'll make faster progress if you stay in your aerobic zone and
take walking breaks than if you basically "sprint" every time and
never build up an aerobic base.

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I've noticed in the body building arena there is a huge market of
products that help people advance and overcome thier genetics to
become ripped.

There's a huge market, but how much of it really works? Diuretics
just cause temporary water loss (dehydration, in other words), and
the "fat burning" compounds are nothing more than stimulants.
Legal uppers. Fatal uppers when people stack them too deeply.

There are some legal products that are helpful, but AFAIK they're
all nutritional support. Protein drinks, creatine, etc. They'll
make a difference but it takes time and a lot of hard work.

Quoted message said:

Will any of those products help me get back my
cardiovascular strength?

No.

Einstein, just stop jogging. You'll catch your breath in a couple of
minutes. Do you need us to explain anything else you should have
learned when you were six?

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If you're overweight, losing weight will make it easier to run.

This advice reminds me of the old recipe for rabbit stew. First
catch a rabbit....

You want to lose weight the right way. First don't eat more
"because of the exercise." Then start to clean up your diet -
some easy ways to start are replacing one soda with bottled water
every day, getting a salad instead of a sandwich a few times/week,
etc. Weight loss of a pound/week might not sound like much, but
if you can keep it up for months it adds up to real weight loss.

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Quoted message said:

I've been sedintary for most of my life and recently decided to get
into good physical condition. I've been on a walking regime (some
light jogging) for about ~12 weeks. I'm wanting to run but I'm finding
that I become winded very quickly and I have no endurance at all. I've
given up smoking recently beliving my endurance would finally take off
but alas it has not. Is there anything I can do to make serious gains
in my cardiovascular system?

Keep doing run/walk. Figure out the ratio of run/walk that you can
comfortably maintain for 30 minutes *without* getting completely winded
during the run segments. If that means 1 minute of running and 2 minutes of
walking right now, then do that. Every week shift the ratio slightly toward
more running. After a lifetime of being sedentary, plus being a recent
ex-smoker, it may take you 3-6 months to get to the point of being able to
run 30 minutes continuously at a slow pace. Run slowly--a "conversational
pace," slow enough to be able to talk. For now, aim to run 4 times a week
(walk or x-train on the other days if you like).

There's a sample plan at
http://www.prevention.com/cda/qamulti2002/0,2495,s1-6406,00.html
If you need to repeat some weeks, don't sweat it. To make improvements you
don't need to kill yourself, you just need to keep at it.

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Quoted message said:

I've been sedintary for most of my life and recently decided to get
into good physical condition. I've been on a walking regime (some
light jogging) for about ~12 weeks. I'm wanting to run but I'm finding
that I become winded very quickly and I have no endurance at all. I've
given up smoking recently beliving my endurance would finally take off
but alas it has not. Is there anything I can do to make serious gains
in my cardiovascular system?

Keep at it. There will be a day where it all clicks into place. It may
take you a month or two to get there. You'll be running along and
you'll go past a mile and think "gee that wasn't too hard." Thats when
you'll be there.

Quoted message said:

I've noticed in the body building arena there is a huge market of
products that help people advance and overcome thier genetics to
become ripped. Will any of those products help me get back my
cardiovascular strength?

No. Cardiovascular comes from how your lungs and heart work. First
your lungs have to get through all the tar you were sucking down while
smoking. Then they have to learn to work effeciently. Then your
muscles have to learn to build more capilaries to promote oxygen
delivery throughout your body.

Quoted message said:

anxiously awaiting your wisdom

Your body is anxiously awaiting its return to normal. Don't stop till
you're there.

Andy

No magic bullets out there. Just keep up the good work. Keep in mind
it may take you a bit longer than the average bear with the damage
from your previous bad habits.

Good Luck.

http://runners4bush2004.rantweb.com
http://www.RunForBush.com

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Quoted message said:

I've been sedintary for most of my life and recently decided to get
into good physical condition. I've been on a walking regime (some
light jogging) for about ~12 weeks. I'm wanting to run but I'm finding
that I become winded very quickly and I have no endurance at all. I've
given up smoking recently beliving my endurance would finally take off
but alas it has not. Is there anything I can do to make serious gains
in my cardiovascular system?

You ARE making serious gains to your whole body system. If you meant
to ask how to make FAST gains, then I have some snake oil for sale
that only costs...

No, seriously now. The human body takes time to adjust. You didn't
get into bad physical condition quickly so don't expect to shake off
the damage quickly.

You've taken the right start, walking regularly. Now to get the
running in there, don't just switch to sprinting. Try running at what
seems to be 50-70% of an all out sprint. Your pace should be slow
enough to still talk. When you get out of breath, switch back to
walking. The goal is to keep moving for a target amount of time. do
this 3 or 4 times a week (every other day or so). Even though this
isn't very demanding, your body (including your bones) needs time to
adjust to the new stresses.

Initially the goal time would be fairly short, 10minutes is a good
start. Keep at it until you can run for the entire 10minutes with no
walking breaks. (If you are already going for longer walks (timewise),
then running can go right in the middle.)

Once you get to running for 10minutes straight, tehn you can gradually
increase the time. Try to keep the increase small. If you try too much
before your body is ready, you can hurt yourself. it may take
2-3months to get up to 30minutes. That is a first major milestone.
When you can run for 30minutes without walking breaks, you are all set
for basic fitness maintenance. If getting and being healthy is your
goal, then 30minutes three times a week is all you need for running.

check out the running FAQ for more information:
www.faqs.org/faqs/running-faq/

Quoted message said:

I've noticed in the body building arena there is a huge market of
products that help people advance and overcome thier genetics to
become ripped. Will any of those products help me get back my
cardiovascular strength?

anxiously awaiting your wisdom

before you get ripped (off), keep in mind that there are no real
shortcuts. And why do you think these products that are marketted for
body building have ANYTHING to do with building cardiovascular
strength? (It's like asking if a bigger car stereo will improve the
life of the engine.

If you want to get and stay healthy, try living a fit and healthy
lifestyle for a while. It would be a lot cheaper. Running improves
Muscular, Skeletal, and cardiovascular systems. And it's a lot more
fun than dietary suplements!

Enjoy the run!
ed

Jayk Stone said:

I've been sedintary for most of my life and recently decided to get
into good physical condition. I've been on a walking regime (some
light jogging) for about ~12 weeks. I'm wanting to run but I'm finding
that I become winded very quickly and I have no endurance at all.

Besides what others have said, you might want to try running more slowly
also during your run intervals.

Dot

--
"So many people get stuck in the routine of life that their dreams waste
away. This is about living the dream." - Cave Dog

I'm 23 now, I started when I was 18. So it's about 5 years of smoking.
I've been quit for about a week now. I know it might be a bit too soon
to expect much. Any information or personal experience would be greatly appreciated.

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Quoted message said:

I've been sedintary for most of my life and recently decided to get
into good physical condition. I've been on a walking regime (some
light jogging) for about ~12 weeks. I'm wanting to run but I'm finding
that I become winded very quickly and I have no endurance at all. I've
given up smoking recently beliving my endurance would finally take off
but alas it has not. Is there anything I can do to make serious gains
in my cardiovascular system?

I've noticed in the body building arena there is a huge market of
products that help people advance and overcome thier genetics to
become ripped. Will any of those products help me get back my
cardiovascular strength?

anxiously awaiting your wisdom

It's hard to know what to tell you w/o knowing your height, weight,
age, etc. But the answer to your last question is emphatically no. As
for the problem you're having, the probable solution is simply to slow
down. If you're still short of breath, alternate walking and running.
Endurance doesn't "take off," no matter what you do. You have to build
it and that takes time. Keep at it and be patient.

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Quoted message said:

I've been sedintary for most of my life and recently decided to get
into good physical condition. I've been on a walking regime (some
light jogging) for about ~12 weeks. I'm wanting to run but I'm finding
that I become winded very quickly and I have no endurance at all. I've
given up smoking recently beliving my endurance would finally take off
but alas it has not. Is there anything I can do to make serious gains
in my cardiovascular system?

I've noticed in the body building arena there is a huge market of
products that help people advance and overcome thier genetics to
become ripped. Will any of those products help me get back my
cardiovascular strength?

anxiously awaiting your wisdom

"Jayk Stone" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I've been sedintary for most of my life and recently decided to get
into good physical condition. I've been on a walking regime (some
light jogging) for about ~12 weeks. I'm wanting to run but I'm finding
that I become winded very quickly and I have no endurance at all. I've
given up smoking recently beliving my endurance would finally take off
but alas it has not. Is there anything I can do to make serious gains
in my cardiovascular system?

No. The damage is done and your body in ruins. You have only one option
left. Golf.

Quoted message said:

I've noticed in the body building arena there is a huge market of
products that help people advance and overcome thier genetics to
become ripped.

These are called 'drugs'. Most are illegal. Do not compromise your
personal integrity for the sake of vanity.

Quoted message said:

Will any of those products help me get back my
cardiovascular strength?

'Get back'!?! Skimming over your first paragraph I am at a loss to
determine exactly *what* you hope to 'get back'. Based on your own
analysis you have never been fit, therefore you're treading a new path.

I'm sorry, old chap, but there is no quick fix. Despite what these idiot
rec.runners will suggest, you're looking at a year to eighteen months of
hard work, commitment, and perseverance. If you ARE serious, stick around
and you'll learn. Post and you'll be offered pointers. And if you're
not serious, don't waste my time.

DISGUSTED? Weeks ago, John Zogby pointed out
on his website that 47% of democrats don't just disagree with Bush--they
personally despise him. Among undecideds, Bush's job approval rating is 30%.
Thus, Zogby gives Kerry a 80-100 point advantage in the electoral college. In
4 years, we have gone from the largest federal budget surplus we have ever had
to the largest deficit we have ever had; From the largest job growth we have
ever had, to the first president since Herbert Hoover to have a net decline of
jobs during his tenure. Investors have done worse than during the Wategate
years.

Bush's Chairman of the Council of Economic advisors believes that outsourcing
is good for the country (don't laugh, he said it); Certainly, we could find
someone in Bangalore, India who could do a better job.
====================
1. Social Security Surplus

BUSH PLEDGES NOT TO TOUCH SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS... "We're going to
keep the promise of Social Security and keep the government from
raiding the Social Security surplus." [President Bush, 3/3/01] ...BUSH
SPENDS SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS The New York Times reported that "the
president's new budget uses Social Security surpluses to pay for other
programs every year through 2013, ultimately diverting more than $1.4
trillion in Social Security funds to other purposes." [The New York
Times, 2/6/02]

2. Patient's Right to Sue

GOVERNOR BUSH VETOES PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "Despite his campaign
rhetoric in favor of a patients' bill of rights, Bush fought such a
bill tooth and nail as Texas governor, vetoing a bill coauthored by
Republican state Rep. John Smithee in 1995. He... constantly opposed a
patient's right to sue an HMO over coverage denied that resulted in
adverse health effects." [Salon, 2/7/01] ...CANDIDATE BUSH PRAISES
TEXAS PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "We're one of the first states that
said you can sue an HMO for denying you proper coverage... It's time
for our nation to come together and do what's right for the people.
And I think this is right for the people. You know, I support a
national patients' bill of rights, Mr. Vice President. And I want all
people covered. I don't want the law to supersede good law like we've
got in Texas." [Governor Bush, 10/17/00] ...PRESIDENT BUSH'S
ADMINISTRATION ARGUES AGAINST RIGHT TO SUE "To let two Texas
consumers, Juan Davila and Ruby R. Calad, sue their managed-care
companies for wrongful denials of medical benefits ‘would be to
completely undermine' federal law regulating employee benefits,
Assistant Solicitor General James A. Feldman said at oral argument
March 23. Moreover, the administration's brief attacked the policy
rationale for Texas's law, which is similar to statutes on the books
in nine other states." [Washington Post, 4/5/04]

3. Tobacco Buyout

BUSH SUPPORTS CURRENT TOBACCO FARMERS' QUOTA SYSTEM... "They've got
the quota system in place -- the allotment system -- and I don't think
that needs to be changed." [President Bush, 5/04] ...BUSH
ADMINISTRATION WILL SUPPORT FEDERAL BUYOUT OF TOBACCO QUOTAS "The
administration is open to a buyout." [White House spokeswoman Jeanie
Mamo, 6/18/04]

4. North Korea

BUSH WILL NOT OFFER NUCLEAR NORTH KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM... "We
developed a bold approach under which, if the North addressed our
long-standing concerns, the United States was prepared to take
important steps that would have significantly improved the lives of
the North Korean people. Now that North Korea's covert nuclear weapons
program has come to light, we are unable to pursue this approach."
[President's Statement, 11/15/02] ...BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFERS NORTH
KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM"Well, we will work to take steps to ease
their political and economic isolation. So there would be -- what you
would see would be some provisional or temporary proposals that would
only lead to lasting benefit after North Korea dismantles its nuclear
programs. So there would be some provisional or temporary efforts of
that nature." [White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, 6/23/04]

5. Abortion

BUSH SUPPORTS A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE... "Bush said he...favors
leaving up to a woman and her doctor the abortion question." [The
Nation, 6/15/00, quoting the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal, 5/78] ...BUSH
OPPOSES A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE "I am pro-life." [Governor Bush,
10/3/00]

6. OPEC

BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES... "What I think the
president ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he ought to get on
the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your
spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC
members to lower the price." [President Bush, 1/26/00] ...BUSH REFUSES
TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS With gas prices soaring in the United States at
the beginning of 2004, the Miami Herald reported the president refused
to "personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds." [Miami
Herald, 4/1/04]

7. Iraq Funding

BUSH SPOKESMAN DENIES NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE REST OF
2004... "We do not anticipate requesting supplemental funding for '04"
[White House Budget Director Joshua Bolton, 2/2/04] ...BUSH REQUESTS
ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IRAQ FOR 2004 "I am requesting that Congress
establish a $25 billion contingency reserve fund for the coming fiscal
year to meet all commitments to our troops." [President Bush,
Statement by President, 5/5/04]

8. Condoleeza Rice Testimony

BUSH SPOKESMAN SAYS RICE WON'T TESTIFY AS 'A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE'...
"Again, this is not her personal preference; this goes back to a
matter of principle. There is a separation of powers issue involved
here. Historically, White House staffers do not testify before
legislative bodies. So it's a matter of principle, not a matter of
preference." [White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, 3/9/04]
....BUSH ORDERS RICE TO TESTIFY: "Today I have informed the Commission
on Terrorist Attacks Against the United States that my National
Security Advisor, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, will provide public
testimony." [President Bush, 3/30/04]

9. Science

BUSH PLEDGES TO ISSUE REGULATIONS BASED ON SCIENCE..."I think we ought
to have high standards set by agencies that rely upon science, not by
what may feel good or what sounds good." [then-Governor George W.
Bush, 1/15/00] ...BUSH ADMINISTRATION REGULATIONS IGNORE SCIENCE "60
leading scientists—including Nobel laureates, leading medical experts,
former federal agency directors and university chairs and
presidents—issued a statement calling for regulatory and legislative
action to restore scientific integrity to federal policymaking.
According to the scientists, the Bush administration has, among other
abuses, suppressed and distorted scientific analysis from federal
agencies, and taken actions that have undermined the quality of
scientific advisory panels." [Union of Concerned Scientists, 2/18/04]

10. Ahmed Chalabi

BUSH INVITES CHALABI TO STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS...President Bush
also met with Chalabi during his brief trip to Iraq last Thanksgiving
[White House Documents 1/20/04, 11/27/03] ...BUSH MILITARY ASSISTS IN
RAID OF CHALABI'S HOUSE "U.S. soldiers raided the home of America's
one-time ally Ahmad Chalabi on Thursday and seized documents and
computers." [Washington Post, 5/20/04]

11. Department of Homeland Security

BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY..."So, creating a
Cabinet office doesn't solve the problem. You still will have agencies
within the federal government that have to be coordinated. So the
answer is that creating a Cabinet post doesn't solve anything." [White
House spokesman Ari Fleischer, 3/19/02] ...BUSH SUPPORTS THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY "So tonight, I ask the Congress to
join me in creating a single, permanent department with an overriding
and urgent mission: securing the homeland of America and protecting
the American people." [President Bush, Address to the Nation, 6/6/02]

12. Weapons of Mass Destruction

BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION..."We found the
weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories...for
those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or
banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." [President Bush,
Interview in Poland, 5/29/03] ...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF
MASS DESTRUCTION "David Kay has found the capacity to produce
weapons.And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't found
stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the weapons went.
They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen
could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be
hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll
find out." [President Bush, Meet the Press, 2/7/04]

13. Free Trade

BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE... "I believe strongly that if we promote
trade, and when we promote trade, it will help workers on both sides
of this issue." [President Bush in Peru, 3/23/02] ...BUSH SUPPORTS
RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE "In a decision largely driven by his political
advisers, President Bush set aside his free-trade principles last year
and imposed heavy tariffs on imported steel to help out struggling
mills in Pennsylvania and West Virginia, two states crucial for his
reelection." [Washington Post, 9/19/03]

14. Osama Bin Laden

BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And there's an old
poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'"
[President Bush, on Osama Bin Laden, 09/17/01] ...BUSH DOESN'T CARE
ABOUT OSAMA "I don't know where he is.You know, I just don't spend
that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about
him."[President Bush, Press Conference, 3/13/02]

15. The Environment

BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE... "[If elected],
Governor Bush will work to...establish mandatory reduction targets for
emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide,
mercury and carbon dioxide." [Bush Environmental Plan, 9/29/00]
....BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE "I do not believe,
however, that the government should impose on power plants mandatory
emissions reductions for carbon dioxide, which is not a 'pollutant'
under the Clean Air Act." [President Bush, Letter to Sen. Chuck Hagel
(R-NE), 3/13/03]

16. WMD Commission

BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE...
"The White House immediately turned aside the calls from Kay and many
Democrats for an immediate outside investigation, seeking to head off
any new wide-ranging election-year inquiry that might go beyond
reports already being assembled by congressional committees and the
Central Intelligence Agency." [NY Times, 1/29/04] ...BUSH SUPPORTS AN
OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE "Today, by executive
order, I am creating an independent commission, chaired by Governor
and former Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence Silberman, to look at
American intelligence capabilities, especially our intelligence about
weapons of mass destruction." [President Bush, 2/6/04]

17. Creation of the 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION... "President
Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice
his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the
government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11." [CBS News,
5/23/02] ...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION
"President Bush said today he now supports establishing an independent
commission to investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks." [ABC News,
09/20/02]

18. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush and
House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) have decided to oppose
granting more time to an independent commission investigating the
Sept. 11, 2001, attacks." [Washington Post, 1/19/04] ...BUSH SUPPORTS
TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION "The White House announced
Wednesday its support for a request from the commission investigating
the September 11, 2001 attacks for more time to complete its work."
[CNN, 2/4/04]

19. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony

BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO ONE HOUR...
"President Bush and Vice President [censored] Cheney have placed strict
limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal
commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will
meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will
submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members said
Wednesday." [NY Times, 2/26/04] ...BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR
TESTIMONY "The president's going to answer all of the questions they
want to raise. Nobody's watching the clock." [White House spokesman
Scott McClellan, 3/10/04]

20. Gay Marriage

BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they
want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're
trying to get me into." [Gov. George W. Bush on Gay Marriage, Larry
King Live, 2/15/00] ...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING
GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to
send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution
defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as
husband and wife." [President Bush, 2/24/04]

21. Nation Building

BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our troops
all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to
have a serious problem coming down the road." [Gov. George W. Bush,
10/3/00] ...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the
regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi people." [President Bush,
3/6/03]

22. Saddam/al Qaeda Link

BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND
SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you
talk about the war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02] ...BUSH SAYS
SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam
Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." [President Bush, 9/17/03]

23. U.N. Resolution

BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT... "No matter what the whip
count is, we're calling for the vote. We want to see people stand up
and say what their opinion is about Saddam Hussein and the utility of
the United Nations Security Council. And so, you bet. It's time for
people to show their cards, to let the world know where they stand

DISGUSTED? Weeks ago, John Zogby pointed out
on his website that 47% of democrats don't just disagree with Bush--they
personally despise him. Among undecideds, Bush's job approval rating is 30%.
Thus, Zogby gives Kerry a 80-100 point advantage in the electoral college. In
4 years, we have gone from the largest federal budget surplus we have ever had
to the largest deficit we have ever had; From the largest job growth we have
ever had, to the first president since Herbert Hoover to have a net decline of
jobs during his tenure. Investors have done worse than during the Wategate
years.

Bush's Chairman of the Council of Economic advisors believes that outsourcing
is good for the country (don't laugh, he said it); Certainly, we could find
someone in Bangalore, India who could do a better job.
====================
1. Social Security Surplus

BUSH PLEDGES NOT TO TOUCH SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS... "We're going to
keep the promise of Social Security and keep the government from
raiding the Social Security surplus." [President Bush, 3/3/01] ...BUSH
SPENDS SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS The New York Times reported that "the
president's new budget uses Social Security surpluses to pay for other
programs every year through 2013, ultimately diverting more than $1.4
trillion in Social Security funds to other purposes." [The New York
Times, 2/6/02]

2. Patient's Right to Sue

GOVERNOR BUSH VETOES PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "Despite his campaign
rhetoric in favor of a patients' bill of rights, Bush fought such a
bill tooth and nail as Texas governor, vetoing a bill coauthored by
Republican state Rep. John Smithee in 1995. He... constantly opposed a
patient's right to sue an HMO over coverage denied that resulted in
adverse health effects." [Salon, 2/7/01] ...CANDIDATE BUSH PRAISES
TEXAS PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "We're one of the first states that
said you can sue an HMO for denying you proper coverage... It's time
for our nation to come together and do what's right for the people.
And I think this is right for the people. You know, I support a
national patients' bill of rights, Mr. Vice President. And I want all
people covered. I don't want the law to supersede good law like we've
got in Texas." [Governor Bush, 10/17/00] ...PRESIDENT BUSH'S
ADMINISTRATION ARGUES AGAINST RIGHT TO SUE "To let two Texas
consumers, Juan Davila and Ruby R. Calad, sue their managed-care
companies for wrongful denials of medical benefits ‘would be to
completely undermine' federal law regulating employee benefits,
Assistant Solicitor General James A. Feldman said at oral argument
March 23. Moreover, the administration's brief attacked the policy
rationale for Texas's law, which is similar to statutes on the books
in nine other states." [Washington Post, 4/5/04]

3. Tobacco Buyout

BUSH SUPPORTS CURRENT TOBACCO FARMERS' QUOTA SYSTEM... "They've got
the quota system in place -- the allotment system -- and I don't think
that needs to be changed." [President Bush, 5/04] ...BUSH
ADMINISTRATION WILL SUPPORT FEDERAL BUYOUT OF TOBACCO QUOTAS "The
administration is open to a buyout." [White House spokeswoman Jeanie
Mamo, 6/18/04]

4. North Korea

BUSH WILL NOT OFFER NUCLEAR NORTH KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM... "We
developed a bold approach under which, if the North addressed our
long-standing concerns, the United States was prepared to take
important steps that would have significantly improved the lives of
the North Korean people. Now that North Korea's covert nuclear weapons
program has come to light, we are unable to pursue this approach."
[President's Statement, 11/15/02] ...BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFERS NORTH
KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM"Well, we will work to take steps to ease
their political and economic isolation. So there would be -- what you
would see would be some provisional or temporary proposals that would
only lead to lasting benefit after North Korea dismantles its nuclear
programs. So there would be some provisional or temporary efforts of
that nature." [White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, 6/23/04]

5. Abortion

BUSH SUPPORTS A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE... "Bush said he...favors
leaving up to a woman and her doctor the abortion question." [The
Nation, 6/15/00, quoting the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal, 5/78] ...BUSH
OPPOSES A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE "I am pro-life." [Governor Bush,
10/3/00]

6. OPEC

BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES... "What I think the
president ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he ought to get on
the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your
spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC
members to lower the price." [President Bush, 1/26/00] ...BUSH REFUSES
TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS With gas prices soaring in the United States at
the beginning of 2004, the Miami Herald reported the president refused
to "personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds." [Miami
Herald, 4/1/04]

7. Iraq Funding

BUSH SPOKESMAN DENIES NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE REST OF
2004... "We do not anticipate requesting supplemental funding for '04"
[White House Budget Director Joshua Bolton, 2/2/04] ...BUSH REQUESTS
ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IRAQ FOR 2004 "I am requesting that Congress
establish a $25 billion contingency reserve fund for the coming fiscal
year to meet all commitments to our troops." [President Bush,
Statement by President, 5/5/04]

8. Condoleeza Rice Testimony

BUSH SPOKESMAN SAYS RICE WON'T TESTIFY AS 'A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE'...
"Again, this is not her personal preference; this goes back to a
matter of principle. There is a separation of powers issue involved
here. Historically, White House staffers do not testify before
legislative bodies. So it's a matter of principle, not a matter of
preference." [White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, 3/9/04]
....BUSH ORDERS RICE TO TESTIFY: "Today I have informed the Commission
on Terrorist Attacks Against the United States that my National
Security Advisor, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, will provide public
testimony." [President Bush, 3/30/04]

9. Science

BUSH PLEDGES TO ISSUE REGULATIONS BASED ON SCIENCE..."I think we ought
to have high standards set by agencies that rely upon science, not by
what may feel good or what sounds good." [then-Governor George W.
Bush, 1/15/00] ...BUSH ADMINISTRATION REGULATIONS IGNORE SCIENCE "60
leading scientists—including Nobel laureates, leading medical experts,
former federal agency directors and university chairs and
presidents—issued a statement calling for regulatory and legislative
action to restore scientific integrity to federal policymaking.
According to the scientists, the Bush administration has, among other
abuses, suppressed and distorted scientific analysis from federal
agencies, and taken actions that have undermined the quality of
scientific advisory panels." [Union of Concerned Scientists, 2/18/04]

10. Ahmed Chalabi

BUSH INVITES CHALABI TO STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS...President Bush
also met with Chalabi during his brief trip to Iraq last Thanksgiving
[White House Documents 1/20/04, 11/27/03] ...BUSH MILITARY ASSISTS IN
RAID OF CHALABI'S HOUSE "U.S. soldiers raided the home of America's
one-time ally Ahmad Chalabi on Thursday and seized documents and
computers." [Washington Post, 5/20/04]

11. Department of Homeland Security

BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY..."So, creating a
Cabinet office doesn't solve the problem. You still will have agencies
within the federal government that have to be coordinated. So the
answer is that creating a Cabinet post doesn't solve anything." [White
House spokesman Ari Fleischer, 3/19/02] ...BUSH SUPPORTS THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY "So tonight, I ask the Congress to
join me in creating a single, permanent department with an overriding
and urgent mission: securing the homeland of America and protecting
the American people." [President Bush, Address to the Nation, 6/6/02]

12. Weapons of Mass Destruction

BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION..."We found the
weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories...for
those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or
banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." [President Bush,
Interview in Poland, 5/29/03] ...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF
MASS DESTRUCTION "David Kay has found the capacity to produce
weapons.And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't found
stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the weapons went.
They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen
could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be
hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll
find out." [President Bush, Meet the Press, 2/7/04]

13. Free Trade

BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE... "I believe strongly that if we promote
trade, and when we promote trade, it will help workers on both sides
of this issue." [President Bush in Peru, 3/23/02] ...BUSH SUPPORTS
RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE "In a decision largely driven by his political
advisers, President Bush set aside his free-trade principles last year
and imposed heavy tariffs on imported steel to help out struggling
mills in Pennsylvania and West Virginia, two states crucial for his
reelection." [Washington Post, 9/19/03]

14. Osama Bin Laden

BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And there's an old
poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'"
[President Bush, on Osama Bin Laden, 09/17/01] ...BUSH DOESN'T CARE
ABOUT OSAMA "I don't know where he is.You know, I just don't spend
that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about
him."[President Bush, Press Conference, 3/13/02]

15. The Environment

BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE... "[If elected],
Governor Bush will work to...establish mandatory reduction targets for
emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide,
mercury and carbon dioxide." [Bush Environmental Plan, 9/29/00]
....BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE "I do not believe,
however, that the government should impose on power plants mandatory
emissions reductions for carbon dioxide, which is not a 'pollutant'
under the Clean Air Act." [President Bush, Letter to Sen. Chuck Hagel
(R-NE), 3/13/03]

16. WMD Commission

BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE...
"The White House immediately turned aside the calls from Kay and many
Democrats for an immediate outside investigation, seeking to head off
any new wide-ranging election-year inquiry that might go beyond
reports already being assembled by congressional committees and the
Central Intelligence Agency." [NY Times, 1/29/04] ...BUSH SUPPORTS AN
OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE "Today, by executive
order, I am creating an independent commission, chaired by Governor
and former Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence Silberman, to look at
American intelligence capabilities, especially our intelligence about
weapons of mass destruction." [President Bush, 2/6/04]

17. Creation of the 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION... "President
Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice
his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the
government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11." [CBS News,
5/23/02] ...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION
"President Bush said today he now supports establishing an independent
commission to investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks." [ABC News,
09/20/02]

18. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush and
House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) have decided to oppose
granting more time to an independent commission investigating the
Sept. 11, 2001, attacks." [Washington Post, 1/19/04] ...BUSH SUPPORTS
TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION "The White House announced
Wednesday its support for a request from the commission investigating
the September 11, 2001 attacks for more time to complete its work."
[CNN, 2/4/04]

19. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony

BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO ONE HOUR...
"President Bush and Vice President [censored] Cheney have placed strict
limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal
commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will
meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will
submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members said
Wednesday." [NY Times, 2/26/04] ...BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR
TESTIMONY "The president's going to answer all of the questions they
want to raise. Nobody's watching the clock." [White House spokesman
Scott McClellan, 3/10/04]

20. Gay Marriage

BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they
want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're
trying to get me into." [Gov. George W. Bush on Gay Marriage, Larry
King Live, 2/15/00] ...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING
GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to
send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution
defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as
husband and wife." [President Bush, 2/24/04]

21. Nation Building

BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our troops
all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to
have a serious problem coming down the road." [Gov. George W. Bush,
10/3/00] ...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the
regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi people." [President Bush,
3/6/03]

22. Saddam/al Qaeda Link

BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND
SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you
talk about the war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02] ...BUSH SAYS
SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam
Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." [President Bush, 9/17/03]

23. U.N. Resolution

BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT... "No matter what the whip
count is, we're calling for the vote. We want to see people stand up
and say what their opinion is about Saddam Hussein and the utility of
the United Nations Security Council. And so, you bet. It's time for
people to show their cards, to let the world know where they stand

DISGUSTED? Weeks ago, John Zogby pointed out
on his website that 47% of democrats don't just disagree with Bush--they
personally despise him. Among undecideds, Bush's job approval rating is 30%.
Thus, Zogby gives Kerry a 80-100 point advantage in the electoral college. In
4 years, we have gone from the largest federal budget surplus we have ever had
to the largest deficit we have ever had; From the largest job growth we have
ever had, to the first president since Herbert Hoover to have a net decline of
jobs during his tenure. Investors have done worse than during the Wategate
years.

Bush's Chairman of the Council of Economic advisors believes that outsourcing
is good for the country (don't laugh, he said it); Certainly, we could find
someone in Bangalore, India who could do a better job.
====================
1. Social Security Surplus

BUSH PLEDGES NOT TO TOUCH SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS... "We're going to
keep the promise of Social Security and keep the government from
raiding the Social Security surplus." [President Bush, 3/3/01] ...BUSH
SPENDS SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS The New York Times reported that "the
president's new budget uses Social Security surpluses to pay for other
programs every year through 2013, ultimately diverting more than $1.4
trillion in Social Security funds to other purposes." [The New York
Times, 2/6/02]

2. Patient's Right to Sue

GOVERNOR BUSH VETOES PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "Despite his campaign
rhetoric in favor of a patients' bill of rights, Bush fought such a
bill tooth and nail as Texas governor, vetoing a bill coauthored by
Republican state Rep. John Smithee in 1995. He... constantly opposed a
patient's right to sue an HMO over coverage denied that resulted in
adverse health effects." [Salon, 2/7/01] ...CANDIDATE BUSH PRAISES
TEXAS PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "We're one of the first states that
said you can sue an HMO for denying you proper coverage... It's time
for our nation to come together and do what's right for the people.
And I think this is right for the people. You know, I support a
national patients' bill of rights, Mr. Vice President. And I want all
people covered. I don't want the law to supersede good law like we've
got in Texas." [Governor Bush, 10/17/00] ...PRESIDENT BUSH'S
ADMINISTRATION ARGUES AGAINST RIGHT TO SUE "To let two Texas
consumers, Juan Davila and Ruby R. Calad, sue their managed-care
companies for wrongful denials of medical benefits ‘would be to
completely undermine' federal law regulating employee benefits,
Assistant Solicitor General James A. Feldman said at oral argument
March 23. Moreover, the administration's brief attacked the policy
rationale for Texas's law, which is similar to statutes on the books
in nine other states." [Washington Post, 4/5/04]

3. Tobacco Buyout

BUSH SUPPORTS CURRENT TOBACCO FARMERS' QUOTA SYSTEM... "They've got
the quota system in place -- the allotment system -- and I don't think
that needs to be changed." [President Bush, 5/04] ...BUSH
ADMINISTRATION WILL SUPPORT FEDERAL BUYOUT OF TOBACCO QUOTAS "The
administration is open to a buyout." [White House spokeswoman Jeanie
Mamo, 6/18/04]

4. North Korea

BUSH WILL NOT OFFER NUCLEAR NORTH KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM... "We
developed a bold approach under which, if the North addressed our
long-standing concerns, the United States was prepared to take
important steps that would have significantly improved the lives of
the North Korean people. Now that North Korea's covert nuclear weapons
program has come to light, we are unable to pursue this approach."
[President's Statement, 11/15/02] ...BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFERS NORTH
KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM"Well, we will work to take steps to ease
their political and economic isolation. So there would be -- what you
would see would be some provisional or temporary proposals that would
only lead to lasting benefit after North Korea dismantles its nuclear
programs. So there would be some provisional or temporary efforts of
that nature." [White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, 6/23/04]

5. Abortion

BUSH SUPPORTS A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE... "Bush said he...favors
leaving up to a woman and her doctor the abortion question." [The
Nation, 6/15/00, quoting the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal, 5/78] ...BUSH
OPPOSES A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE "I am pro-life." [Governor Bush,
10/3/00]

6. OPEC

BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES... "What I think the
president ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he ought to get on
the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your
spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC
members to lower the price." [President Bush, 1/26/00] ...BUSH REFUSES
TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS With gas prices soaring in the United States at
the beginning of 2004, the Miami Herald reported the president refused
to "personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds." [Miami
Herald, 4/1/04]

7. Iraq Funding

BUSH SPOKESMAN DENIES NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE REST OF
2004... "We do not anticipate requesting supplemental funding for '04"
[White House Budget Director Joshua Bolton, 2/2/04] ...BUSH REQUESTS
ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IRAQ FOR 2004 "I am requesting that Congress
establish a $25 billion contingency reserve fund for the coming fiscal
year to meet all commitments to our troops." [President Bush,
Statement by President, 5/5/04]

8. Condoleeza Rice Testimony

BUSH SPOKESMAN SAYS RICE WON'T TESTIFY AS 'A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE'...
"Again, this is not her personal preference; this goes back to a
matter of principle. There is a separation of powers issue involved
here. Historically, White House staffers do not testify before
legislative bodies. So it's a matter of principle, not a matter of
preference." [White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, 3/9/04]
....BUSH ORDERS RICE TO TESTIFY: "Today I have informed the Commission
on Terrorist Attacks Against the United States that my National
Security Advisor, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, will provide public
testimony." [President Bush, 3/30/04]

9. Science

BUSH PLEDGES TO ISSUE REGULATIONS BASED ON SCIENCE..."I think we ought
to have high standards set by agencies that rely upon science, not by
what may feel good or what sounds good." [then-Governor George W.
Bush, 1/15/00] ...BUSH ADMINISTRATION REGULATIONS IGNORE SCIENCE "60
leading scientists—including Nobel laureates, leading medical experts,
former federal agency directors and university chairs and
presidents—issued a statement calling for regulatory and legislative
action to restore scientific integrity to federal policymaking.
According to the scientists, the Bush administration has, among other
abuses, suppressed and distorted scientific analysis from federal
agencies, and taken actions that have undermined the quality of
scientific advisory panels." [Union of Concerned Scientists, 2/18/04]

10. Ahmed Chalabi

BUSH INVITES CHALABI TO STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS...President Bush
also met with Chalabi during his brief trip to Iraq last Thanksgiving
[White House Documents 1/20/04, 11/27/03] ...BUSH MILITARY ASSISTS IN
RAID OF CHALABI'S HOUSE "U.S. soldiers raided the home of America's
one-time ally Ahmad Chalabi on Thursday and seized documents and
computers." [Washington Post, 5/20/04]

11. Department of Homeland Security

BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY..."So, creating a
Cabinet office doesn't solve the problem. You still will have agencies
within the federal government that have to be coordinated. So the
answer is that creating a Cabinet post doesn't solve anything." [White
House spokesman Ari Fleischer, 3/19/02] ...BUSH SUPPORTS THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY "So tonight, I ask the Congress to
join me in creating a single, permanent department with an overriding
and urgent mission: securing the homeland of America and protecting
the American people." [President Bush, Address to the Nation, 6/6/02]

12. Weapons of Mass Destruction

BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION..."We found the
weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories...for
those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or
banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." [President Bush,
Interview in Poland, 5/29/03] ...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF
MASS DESTRUCTION "David Kay has found the capacity to produce
weapons.And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't found
stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the weapons went.
They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen
could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be
hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll
find out." [President Bush, Meet the Press, 2/7/04]

13. Free Trade

BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE... "I believe strongly that if we promote
trade, and when we promote trade, it will help workers on both sides
of this issue." [President Bush in Peru, 3/23/02] ...BUSH SUPPORTS
RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE "In a decision largely driven by his political
advisers, President Bush set aside his free-trade principles last year
and imposed heavy tariffs on imported steel to help out struggling
mills in Pennsylvania and West Virginia, two states crucial for his
reelection." [Washington Post, 9/19/03]

14. Osama Bin Laden

BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And there's an old
poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'"
[President Bush, on Osama Bin Laden, 09/17/01] ...BUSH DOESN'T CARE
ABOUT OSAMA "I don't know where he is.You know, I just don't spend
that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about
him."[President Bush, Press Conference, 3/13/02]

15. The Environment

BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE... "[If elected],
Governor Bush will work to...establish mandatory reduction targets for
emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide,
mercury and carbon dioxide." [Bush Environmental Plan, 9/29/00]
....BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE "I do not believe,
however, that the government should impose on power plants mandatory
emissions reductions for carbon dioxide, which is not a 'pollutant'
under the Clean Air Act." [President Bush, Letter to Sen. Chuck Hagel
(R-NE), 3/13/03]

16. WMD Commission

BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE...
"The White House immediately turned aside the calls from Kay and many
Democrats for an immediate outside investigation, seeking to head off
any new wide-ranging election-year inquiry that might go beyond
reports already being assembled by congressional committees and the
Central Intelligence Agency." [NY Times, 1/29/04] ...BUSH SUPPORTS AN
OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE "Today, by executive
order, I am creating an independent commission, chaired by Governor
and former Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence Silberman, to look at
American intelligence capabilities, especially our intelligence about
weapons of mass destruction." [President Bush, 2/6/04]

17. Creation of the 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION... "President
Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice
his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the
government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11." [CBS News,
5/23/02] ...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION
"President Bush said today he now supports establishing an independent
commission to investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks." [ABC News,
09/20/02]

18. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush and
House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) have decided to oppose
granting more time to an independent commission investigating the
Sept. 11, 2001, attacks." [Washington Post, 1/19/04] ...BUSH SUPPORTS
TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION "The White House announced
Wednesday its support for a request from the commission investigating
the September 11, 2001 attacks for more time to complete its work."
[CNN, 2/4/04]

19. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony

BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO ONE HOUR...
"President Bush and Vice President [censored] Cheney have placed strict
limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal
commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will
meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will
submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members said
Wednesday." [NY Times, 2/26/04] ...BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR
TESTIMONY "The president's going to answer all of the questions they
want to raise. Nobody's watching the clock." [White House spokesman
Scott McClellan, 3/10/04]

20. Gay Marriage

BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they
want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're
trying to get me into." [Gov. George W. Bush on Gay Marriage, Larry
King Live, 2/15/00] ...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING
GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to
send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution
defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as
husband and wife." [President Bush, 2/24/04]

21. Nation Building

BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our troops
all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to
have a serious problem coming down the road." [Gov. George W. Bush,
10/3/00] ...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the
regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi people." [President Bush,
3/6/03]

22. Saddam/al Qaeda Link

BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND
SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you
talk about the war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02] ...BUSH SAYS
SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam
Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." [President Bush, 9/17/03]

23. U.N. Resolution

BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT... "No matter what the whip
count is, we're calling for the vote. We want to see people stand up
and say what their opinion is about Saddam Hussein and the utility of
the United Nations Security Council. And so, you bet. It's time for
people to show their cards, to let the world know where they stand

Quoted message said:

I've been sedintary for most of my life and recently decided to get
into good physical condition. I've been on a walking regime (some
light jogging) for about ~12 weeks. I'm wanting to run but I'm finding
that I become winded very quickly and I have no endurance at all. I've
given up smoking recently beliving my endurance would finally take off
but alas it has not. Is there anything I can do to make serious gains
in my cardiovascular system?

I've noticed in the body building arena there is a huge market of
products that help people advance and overcome thier genetics to
become ripped. Will any of those products help me get back my
cardiovascular strength?

Most of those body building products are scams IMHO. Protein is good for
rebuilding muscle but you can get it from egg whites and eating lots of
meat.

Have you considered training with a heart rate monitor? It's very possible
for you to train while walking, depending on your heart rate. I run around
158 and when I walk it's around 138. That's pretty close.

-Michael

Thanks everyone for your information, I'm going to stick with it. I'll
get there sooner or later.

I'm just frustrated because over the last few months I believe I've
experienced every type of pain that be brought to bear upon my legs
however they have adapted and recovered rather quickly. I just wish my
lungs/heart would follow along.

Thanks again,

Tyler

"Newsbirdie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've been sedintary for most of my life and recently decided to get
into good physical condition. I've been on a walking regime (some
light jogging) for about ~12 weeks. I'm wanting to run but I'm finding
that I become winded very quickly and I have no endurance at all. I've
given up smoking recently beliving my endurance would finally take off
but alas it has not. Is there anything I can do to make serious gains
in my cardiovascular system?

I've noticed in the body building arena there is a huge market of
products that help people advance and overcome thier genetics to
become ripped. Will any of those products help me get back my
cardiovascular strength?

Most of those body building products are scams IMHO. Protein is good for
rebuilding muscle but you can get it from egg whites and eating lots of
meat.

Have you considered training with a heart rate monitor? It's very possible
for you to train while walking, depending on your heart rate. I run around
158 and when I walk it's around 138. That's pretty close.

-Michael