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Re: More speed progress...

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  1. If your current HM PR is 2:08, a sub-4 marathon is not in the cards...nor will
    you get there with 20 miles per week. One pacing chart I looked at converted a
    2:08 to 4:32 for the marathon.

    Work on your endurance first, then speed. Once you get your half marathon time
    to around 1:50 (the "Running Times" conversion showed 1:53), then you can think
    about sub-4 for 26.2.

    http://www.runningtimes.com/pace/predict.htm

    Good luck to you...but run more!

    ;-)

    Mike C

    Quoted message said:

    From: Ignoramus4020 ignoramus4020@NOSPAM

    Quoted message said:

    Just ran my second, bigger benchmark distance, 5.6 miles, in 50 min 41
    seconds, or at 9:04 mpm. That second distance is moderately hilly,
    unlike my smaller 2.8 miles distance. (mileage obtained from mapquest)

    This is better than my 56:30 result that I got on the same exact
    distance prior to half marathon.

    Unlike the previous time, when I thought that my running was "easy", I
    would not call it easy this time, although it did not feel like
    torture. This time I ran at 3-3 breath cycle, and some 3-2 on hills,
    unlike the previous 4-4 time. After finishing, I definitely feel that
    I could run quite a bit longer -- not sure how much -- but I also
    strongly feel that I could not run much faster.

    That feeling of a "ceiling" on my speed, by the way, is, quite
    possibly, due to my diet and lack of glycogen, and the possibility
    that I ran on fat. Perhaps, with more glycogen, I would run faster,
    but I also would not be training what I want to train.

    This is fairly close to the speed that would, if maintained for the
    whole marathon, get me to my goal of being under 4 hours. Obviously, I
    very likely need quite a bit of training to maintain that speed for
    3:50 as opposed to 0:50, but I am hopeful.

    This is my second run today, and in fact I did not feel like running
    the second time. I went out, ran 300 feet, and walked back home. Felt
    tired and bored. After 10 minutes of milling aroud the house, I decided
    to give it a second try, and here's where I am.

    Another observation for today is that I ran exactly half the distance
    in 24:50, and the second half in 25:50. The first half was slightly
    more downhill though.

    I would like to run more, and longer, at this speed.

    I wonder if, given my present apparent condition -- 2:08 half marathon
    and 9:04mpm 50 minute run -- I can expect to be able to run a marathon
    under 4 hours if, say, I maintain 20 mpw training, training mostly at
    this level of exertion. Any thoughts on this will be appreciated.

    i

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