Running & Change of Seasons

Lanceandrew said:

For the last 6 days I've been running basically "under the weather"....and now
I gotta find my winter running gear. Donovan...you still have that site with
the winter running gear review?

http://www.pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/running/winter_reviews/

I still highly recommend the sporthill explorer top, even though it's
expensive. Warm, windproof, and more breathable than a jacket.

BTW, rei-outlet are selling a bunch of good winter stuff very cheap now.
(good brands here include sugoi, sporthill, pearl izumi, hind)

A tip for searching footlocker.com -- their search engine is fairly
intelligent. For example, you can punch in
running clearance clothing
and it does what you want it to (for future reference: you can also use
the keywords "flats" or "spikes" and it does what you want).

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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Respect the flu. I was layed out in the bed for 2 solid days last Jan.
unable to get up due to the flu. The flu is no joke. It screwed up my
Winter running entirely setting me back a solid month.

If it was indeed the flu you had, just be glad it was only for a couple of
days.

Those high-risk people who are getting the shot are in more serious danger
of complications, even death, than a young & healthy person.
(this may not matter to you)

I'd be willing to give up my place in the flu shot line if it meant I could
magically no longer be "high risk".

Meanwhile, use such old-fashioned (& generally free) commonsense measures
such as washing your hands often, covering your mouth when you cough (so you
don't spread what you may have), and not hanging around healthy people if
you're sick or sick people if you're healthy.

BTW, you don't catch colds or flu from being out in the cold or wet.
bj

<< bucks turn
you away (at least in NYC).

Really?
Those deer aren't nice?

<< Respect the flu. >>

*achoo!*

You mean
You flew?

<<It screwed up my Winter>>

So, like, now you're discontent?
I don't blame you
One bit!

<< a single screw up >>

Who screwed you?
Up or down,
Or all the way round?
Feel good? Or hurt?
Use lube?
Astroglide, often recommended.
Frankly, I prefer K-Y,
More body substance.

<< now this stuff is rationed >>

You mean,
Ruff? Rationed,
You say? Say,
Kennel Ration?
Got Milk
Bones?

<< shot >>

No, that's Bigshot,
My earliest pup ~
A feisty wire-haired Terrior!
Hot stuff, too!

<< Amazing world we live in. I live in NYC. >>

Moi aussi!
I hated it at first,
But alas, it's a give
And take relationship!
[PS: There are no good restarants
On this side of town.]
Said that so long ago,
But now, frankly,
They neighborhood's great!
True, I mostly or in,
Especially, late at night,
Like these nights!
Whew!
All's reversed to fathom
Myself, as well, the world ~
So often, not till 3 am
Do I dine. Then, Gemini
Diner I call!

And you?
How do you dine?
Fine wine?

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<< A tip for searching footlocker.com -- their search engine is fairly
intelligent. For example, you can punch in
running clearance clothing
and it does what you want it to (for future reference: you can also use
the keywords "flats" or "spikes" and it does what you want).

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi >>

And what would one
Want?

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Brilliant One said:

And what would one Want?

When I say "spikes", it is because I want spikes, dammit!
Spikes!
SPIKES!!!
*S*P*I*K*E*S!!!!

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

BTW, you don't catch colds or flu from being out in the cold or wet.
bj
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but correct me if i am wrong. you run to a level wherein your defense system
is more vulnerable or prone to receiving virus/germs (open pours & glands).
you then get exposed to a host/carrier while you're in a vulnerable
state/condition no?

and can't virus or germs be on a piece of mail and literally anything you
touch? you can go to the grocery story and pick-up a germ from the shopping
cart or piece of fruit you're picking that someone else previously handled.

i routinely go to a farmer's market after a weekend run, daily get into an
elavator, etc....buy something w/a credit card and use a merchant's writing
instrument that might have been handled by 50 different people in the last hour
or so.... i suspect we all expose ourselves to some measure/degree to
host/carriers of virus/germs at points when our defense system is most
vulnerable/exposed? (just guessing here).

Cold weather doesn't make you sick. Germs do. If cold weather made you
sick, no one would live north of the Mason-Dixon Line.

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and can't virus or germs be on a piece of mail and literally anything you
touch?
....

This is where the frequent hand-washing comes in.
(carry towellettes if necessary)
And don't touch your eyes/nose/mouth with your "dirty hands" as that just
transfers the germs from your hands right into your body!
bj

Leafing through rec.running, I read bj's message of 11 Oct 2004:

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This is where the frequent hand-washing comes in.
(carry towellettes if necessary)
And don't touch your eyes/nose/mouth with your "dirty hands" as that
just transfers the germs from your hands right into your body!

This reminds me of an incident from yesterday's marathon. Lining the course
would frequently be families with their young children giving high fives to
the runners. I don't know about other runners, but I know where my hands
have been while running a marathon, such as wiping sweat, wiping mucous
from my nose. Kids being kids, are also removing mucous from their own
noses. Not a good combination of events, IMO.

Phil M.

--
"What counts in battle is what you do once the pain sets in." -John Short,
South African coach.

Phil M. said:

This reminds me of an incident from yesterday's marathon. Lining the course
would frequently be families with their young children giving high fives to
the runners. I don't know about other runners, but I know where my hands
have been while running a marathon, such as wiping sweat, wiping mucous
from my nose. Kids being kids, are also removing mucous from their own
noses. Not a good combination of events, IMO.

One of our coaches said 75% of marathoners get a respiratory
illness within 2 weeks of their run. He said it was due to a
compromised immune system but I wonder how much is due to this?

I made it to day 12 and was hopeful when my cold hit. It's been
mild but persistent, now going into day 4.

Ignoramus23816 said:

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One of our coaches said 75% of marathoners get a respiratory
illness within 2 weeks of their run. He said it was due to a
compromised immune system but I wonder how much is due to this?

I made it to day 12 and was hopeful when my cold hit. It's been
mild but persistent, now going into day 4.

I believe that the incubation period for these diseases is much less
than 12 days. What this implies, is that it is unlikely that you
manifested an infection that was passed to you during a marathon.

What he was saying is that extended exercise compromises runners's
immune system to the extent that it takes weeks to recover, not
that they'll get infections from the run itself. I was just
pointing out that the earlier comments point out that runners may
also be exposed to more viruses than usual during the run itself.

Personally I'm half convinced that my problem is really hay fever,
not a cold, but hay fever doesn't give me a sore throat.

<< Cold weather doesn't make you sick. Germs do. >>

Seen Mr. Martin
In these parts,
This heart?

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One of our coaches said 75% of marathoners get a respiratory illness
within 2 weeks of their run. He said it was due to a compromised
immune system but I wonder how much is due to this?

Believe him!! You resistence is seeverely lowered which allows those
nasty little bugs to fly up your nose and into your who-ha.

-DF

<< Believe him!! You resistence is seeverely lowered which allows those
nasty little bull dogs to fly up your nose and into your who-ha.

-DF >>

I'll say!
Crumbled.

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Based on the stuffed nose and cough I suddenly had one day last week...wearing
a singlet and shorts must have got the best of me w/open pours and a plunging
in the weather over the course of an hour in an evening run.

I spent about $40 at a local drug store buying all sorts of [censored] and tried to
find a place to get a flu shot. _IMPOSSIBLE_. If you're not under age 5, or
over age 65, the usual places you can geta a flu shot for $10-$20 bucks turn
you away (at least in NYC). And I belong to a crummy half-ass HMO that I
doubt can get me a shot.

$40, OMG!! Jesus christ, are you kidding??!!

One of my buddies in Iraq told me they get the flu shots out there for
$3.00.
Everyone who is alive including the Iraqis.

Of course, who know who's subsizidizing the cost - the American tax
dollars.

If you are really desperate to get a shot, go to Iraq. The airfare
might be a bit expensive but once you get there, driving around is
cheap. $1.79 if you are a non-Iraqi, $0.10 if you are a Iraqi.

MWL

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