Re: An idea

Andy Howell said:

As a result I've been creating some
walks in the Cotswolds. These tend to be longer than you often find
in guides - say 15 miles - but they are well within the reach of most
walkers.

Don't mention that to Bill... ;-)

Paul
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Quoted message said:

Andy Howell said:

As a result I've been creating some
walks in the Cotswolds. These tend to be longer than you often find
in guides - say 15 miles - but they are well within the reach of most
walkers.

Don't mention that to Bill... ;-)

ITYF that Bill is capable of a lot more than you give him credit
for. He's also bigger and stronger than you.
--
Fran
If you need my email address please ask.

On 14/7/04 4:04 pm, in article [email hidden], "Paul

Saunders said:

Andy Howell said:

As a result I've been creating some
walks in the Cotswolds. These tend to be longer than you often find
in guides - say 15 miles - but they are well within the reach of most
walkers.

Don't mention that to Bill... ;-)

I won't :-)

Mind you, I do think the points that Bill and yourself have been making are
very valid. We should be careful to be as inclusive as we can here! I am a
little more sympathetic than usual after finding myself kind of disabled
over the last 6 weeks!

--
Andy Howell
Birmingham, UK

Fran said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

These tend to be longer than you often find
in guides - say 15 miles - but they are well within the reach of
most walkers.

Don't mention that to Bill... ;-)

ITYF that Bill is capable of a lot more than you give him credit
for.

Where did you get that idea from? Bill himself wrote that I know the
kind of walks he's capable of. I've climbed Bannau Sir Gaer with him,
Fan Brycheiniog, Pen y Fan, etc, so I'm fully aware that he's capable of
more than a short stroll along a riverbank. When have I suggested
otherwise?

I do know that he can't (or won't) walk 15 miles though (neither can I
at the moment). He considers Roger an extreme walker for doing 13 miles
on the weekend. I just found Andy's comment about 15 miles being "well
within the reach of most walkers" somewhat amusing under the
circumstances.

And I did add a smiley!

Paul
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Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Andy Howell said:

As a result I've been creating some
walks in the Cotswolds. These tend to be longer than you often find
in guides - say 15 miles - but they are well within the reach of most
walkers.

Don't mention that to Bill... ;-)

The longest walk I have done was 21 miles plus navigation errors, but I
was 22, and was in basic RAF training at the time!

The longest walk I have done since I started walking for pleasure aged
40 was 14 miles.

'Nuff said.
--
Gordon

Andy Howell said:

I've been a user of Wikipedia for a long time and am quite interested in
your idea. The new Wikitravel site provides an idea of how something could
be developed that looked a lot better than the encyclopaedia.

Wasn't aware of Wikitravel, just taken a look. AFAICT Wikitravel is built
on the same technology as Wikipedia (mediawiki). I personally like
mediawiki but I wouldn't necessarily suggest (or exclude) it as the
technology behind what I'm proposing. Wiki provides a very nice free-form
information architecture and resolves a lot of problems in regard to
vandalism, duff content etc. The skin that Wikitravel provides is one of
the standard mediawiki skins (another being the default skin provided by
Wikipedia).

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I'm sure I would use it not least because I often find myself creating my
own routes. For example, I've been doing some low level walks recently due
to a fall in Snowdonia when I tore ligaments and tendons in one of my
elbows. As a result I've been creating some walks in the Cotswolds. These
tend to be longer than you often find in guides - say 15 miles - but they
are well within the reach of most walkers. My walking companions keep
suggesting that we write these walks up - your idea would be ideal for this.

I too tend to create my own routes, either by using OS maps, or just
setting off and seeing where I get to (I just can't see a hill
without thinking I should be at the top looking at the view!). I live in
the dales so I'm fairly fortunate that I can do that.

btw. I too suffer from ligament problems, I had most of the contents
of my left knee (cartilage, ligaments and a bit of other other stuff)
removed and tidied up about fifteen years ago after a spectacular
skateboarding accident.

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Am happy to be involved. Sounds a good idea to me.

Glad to hear it. Any more volunteers?
--
Neil
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:40:18 +0100, Gordon <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Andy Howell said:

As a result I've been creating some
walks in the Cotswolds. These tend to be longer than you often find
in guides - say 15 miles - but they are well within the reach of most
walkers.

Don't mention that to Bill... ;-)

The longest walk I have done was 21 miles plus navigation errors, but I
was 22, and was in basic RAF training at the time!

The longest walk I have done since I started walking for pleasure aged
40 was 14 miles.

'Nuff said.

Walks of 25 miles or so are not really too exhausting provided you
take things slowly, and are not obviously unfit, have comfy shoes, and
carry a light load. If you just wander about at a gentle pace from
dawn till dusk, resting when you need to, you'll very likely have
covered over 20 miles.
Long fast walks with lots of ascent are in a different category
altogether. They are tiring! I like to do both sorts of walk - and I
often beat Naismith, particularly since I no longer keep stopping for
a smoke.
But a social walk, in my opinion, needs to be shortish, not too
strenuous, and interesting.

--

Paul

(Watch this space)

In article <[email hidden]>, Gordon
<[email hidden]> writes

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The longest walk I have done was 21 miles plus navigation errors, but I
was 22, and was in basic RAF training at the time!

The longest walk I've done was 26 miles, at age 45 (Buxton muirbashing -
visiting all the 500m peaks on Buxton Moor, except for Black Edge). Not
all that steep, but the ascent adds up, considering I started at
Macclesfield station, and went of Macclesfield Forest first. Took 12
hours.

I plan to try a repeat, with Shuttlingloe added, but I need training.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Stewart Robert Hinsley <[email hidden]> wrote

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In article <[email hidden]>, Gordon
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

The longest walk I have done was 21 miles plus navigation errors, but I
was 22, and was in basic RAF training at the time!

The longest walk I've done was 26 miles, at age 45 (Buxton muirbashing -
visiting all the 500m peaks on Buxton Moor, except for Black Edge). Not
all that steep, but the ascent adds up, considering I started at
Macclesfield station, and went of Macclesfield Forest first. Took 12
hours.

I plan to try a repeat, with Shuttlingloe added, but I need training.

Shutlingsloe, Ugh! All those flagged steps are a pain.

We took a lady who lives close to me up through the forest and to
Shutlingsloe and it's a bummer if you return the same way.

I noticed that she was in difficulties coming back down the steps and
learned that she had cataracts in both eyes! In spite of this she used
to walk alone over 12 miles or more, but she had the op some time ago
and her vision is ok now.
--
Gordon

In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Andy Howell said:

As a result I've been creating some
walks in the Cotswolds. These tend to be longer than you often find
in guides - say 15 miles - but they are well within the reach of most
walkers.

Don't mention that to Bill... ;-)

Too late I've seen it :-)

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Paul

--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

I do know that he can't (or won't) walk 15 miles though (neither can I
at the moment). He considers Roger an extreme walker for doing 13 miles
on the weekend. I just found Andy's comment about 15 miles being "well
within the reach of most walkers" somewhat amusing under the
circumstances.

Won't walk is true, Can't walk has not been revealed yet. I've seen the
programme of walks from the Mountain centre and some of those are 12/15
miles or so. I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

It would be like asking me to do a walk from the Slip to Mumbles - a
nice walk, but starting from Clydach. You know what I mean Paul - Alt-yr
Esgair was another instance. Stupidly long walk-ins which are quite
unnecessary for the walk in prospect.

I've no doubt younger men/women can happily consider 15 mile walks, I
have reservations which are definitely age related :-)
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk