company advice- per purchasing

I bought fugawi uk maps from them. Excellent service included a
complimentary Email as soon as I had ordered and the maps arrived the next
day.

"ted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

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I was looking at buying another Anquet CD 1:25000 series : since amazon
don't seem to be in the market at their basement price anymore i note
from a search engine that a company
Nav-a-gate4less.co.uk
offers very good prices on this software. Has anybody had any dealings
with the company, the name hasn't registered on my radar before.

Mike Brockhurst said:

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I was looking at buying another Anquet CD 1:25000 series : since amazon
don't seem to be in the market at their basement price anymore i note
from a search engine that a company
Nav-a-gate4less.co.uk
offers very good prices on this software. Has anybody had any dealings
with the company, the name hasn't registered on my radar before.

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I bought fugawi uk maps from them. Excellent service included a
complimentary Email as soon as I had ordered and the maps arrived the next
day.

Is it the right address? I can't find a page there.

Best wishes,
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Peewiglet

Steve Orrell said:

On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 18:24:25 +0100, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

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> Nav-a-gate4less.co.uk

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Is it the right address? I can't find a page there.

http://www.nav-e-gate4less.co.uk/

Ahaa... I tried with an 'i' but I didn't think to try an 'e'. Thank
you :-)

Best wishes,
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Peewiglet

On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 18:41:18 +0100, Steve Orrell wrote:

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PS
http://www.nav-e-gate4less.co.uk/ - everything's free, no prices
listed 8-)

Wonderful! I'll get right across 🙂

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

Steve Orrell said:

which reminds me piggles, how's your plotting for the PW coming on?
You picked a date yet?

Oooh... if I write the date down I'll have to go! Ok, I'm starting
on... Saturday, 21st August 🙂

It's exciting! <fx: bounce, bounce, bounce>

I'm aiming for 16 days, but I can extend it a bit if necessary.

(I'm considering new boots now. I love kit... :-)

(Thanks for asking ::-)

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 10:40:46 +0100, Steve Orrell wrote:

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Kewl, 270 miles in 16 days is good going (well, it would be for me ;-)

Uh-oh... it may be too much for me too! I've not done it yet...

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(I'm considering new boots now. I love kit... :-)

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Peetwiggerlet da kit monsta!! (as if it wasn't obvious ;-)
(NB you're in good company!)

I've actually been quite good and restrainedish, so far, despite all
my drooling :-) I've invested in the Balloonbed and a little Geko,
and later in the week I hope to get lightweight trainer/boots & a
stove. Oh, and I bought the maps on special offer at Waterstones: 3 x
OS 1:25k for the price of 2! It certainly adds up...

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(Thanks for asking ::-)

s'ok, how've you split up the various sections and stuff?

Well, this is the tentative plan.

1. Edale to Crowden (16)
2. Crowden to Standedge (11)
3. Standedge to Hebden Bridge (15)
4. Hebden Bridge to Lothersdale (18)
5. Lothersdale to Malham (14)
6. Malham to Horton-in-Ribblesdale (15)
7. H-in-R to Hawes (14)
8. Hawes to Keld (12.5)
9. Keld to Baldersdale (14)
10. Baldersdale to Middleton-in-Teesdale (6.5)
11. M-in-T to Dufton (20.5)
12. Dufton to Alston (20)
13. Alston to Greenhead (17)
14. Greenhead to Once Brewed (7)
15. Once Brewed to Bellingham (14.5)
16. Bellingham to Byrness (15)
17. Byrness to Kirk Yetholm (mumble mumble...)

Oh - it's 17 days, not 16! Whoops :-)

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I've seen
some ridiculous ideas about the sections... 28 miles on the last day
for instance... across Cheviot [renowned bog] for instance. Barking
mad, espec when there are stopping opportunities fer instance. Its as
if they ran out of imagination on the last section.

<blush> Where's a good place to stop, then? I've seen tell of some
sort of bothy in the middle of no-where, but most guides seem to
suggest a major plod for the last day. It does make more sense to try
to enjoy it, though! Ideas and suggestions are v. welcome - nothing
is fixed in stone 🙂

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

In [email hidden]
Peewiglet mused:

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I've seen
some ridiculous ideas about the sections... 28 miles on the last day
for instance... across Cheviot [renowned bog] for instance. Barking
mad, espec when there are stopping opportunities fer instance. Its as
if they ran out of imagination on the last section.

<blush> Where's a good place to stop, then? I've seen tell of some
sort of bothy in the middle of no-where, but most guides seem to
suggest a major plod for the last day. It does make more sense to try
to enjoy it, though! Ideas and suggestions are v. welcome - nothing
is fixed in stone 🙂

When I went up the longest pub crawl in the GB aka Pennine Way (it's all
in the planning...), there was a farmhouse mid-Cheviots that did dinner,
B&B. Torch required - they run (or used to) on generator and the gennie
goes off at 10pm or thereabout. A smallish trudge from the ridge, but it
split what can be a rather overlong day.

Uswayford (pronounced 'ooziefurd' if I'm not mistaken) Farm was the name
of the place (gr NT8814). The telephone no. may be 01669 650237.

--
A l'eau - c'est l'heure (French Navy Motto)

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 00:13:09 +0100, "Bootlaces" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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When I went up the longest pub crawl in the GB aka Pennine Way (it's all
in the planning...), there was a farmhouse mid-Cheviots that did dinner,
B&B. Torch required - they run (or used to) on generator and the gennie
goes off at 10pm or thereabout. A smallish trudge from the ridge, but it
split what can be a rather overlong day.

Uswayford (pronounced 'ooziefurd' if I'm not mistaken) Farm was the name
of the place (gr NT8814). The telephone no. may be 01669 650237.

Brilliant! I'll see if I can track it down. Thanks very much :-)

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 23:21:09 +0100, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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I've actually been quite good and restrainedish, so far, despite all
my drooling :-) I've invested in the Balloonbed and a little Geko,
and later in the week I hope to get lightweight trainer/boots & a
stove. Oh, and I bought the maps on special offer at Waterstones: 3 x
OS 1:25k for the price of 2! It certainly adds up...

I forgot the pots...

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 09:29:06 +0100, Steve Orrell wrote:

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you taking 'em all, or mebbes just the kettle?

Just the kettle. I plan enormous meals involving large piles of chips
and things in pubs... :-) Kettle should suffice for brekkie & drinks.

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

In [email hidden]
Steve Orrell mused:

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Interesting stuff, wasn't aware of this, when were you up there?

Specifically? A long time ago - the night of 16th/17th Sept '93.

There seems to be a number of websites that mention Uswayford farm in
respect of the Pennine Way and the Reivers Way.

--
If all is not lost, where is it?

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, Steve Orrell wrote:

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14. Greenhead to Once Brewed (7)
15. Once Brewed to Bellingham (14.5)
16. Bellingham to Byrness (15)
17. Byrness to Kirk Yetholm (mumble mumble...)

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Hmm, I'd suggest a bit of a rethink of the last sections... if only
because the guide writers are pathetically unimaginative and sadistic
to boot suggesting a major haul on the last leg (or two), especially
over Cheviot which is notoriously boggy (even with the boardwalks).

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I'd suggest

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14. Greenhead to Bellingham, which would give a 21/22 mile day but the
ground is realtively easy... but you catch up on a day
15. Bellingham (pronounced Bellin-jum) to Byrness (15)
16 Byrness to...

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It does make more sense to try to enjoy it, though! Ideas and suggestions
are v. welcome - nothing is fixed in stone 🙂

There are two "Mountain Refuge Huts" on the maps, which in reality are
old railway carriages from goods trains (good, solid). One is here:

http://streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=380450&y=612850&z=3&sv=380450,612850&st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&dn=649

but this is only 13k/8miles from Byrness (there's also another
potential complication but more of this inna bit)

The second is here:

http://streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=387850&y=620150&z=3&sv=387850,620150&st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&dn=649

which is 28k/18 miles from Byrness. <-- this would leave you <12k on
the last day (and its all downhill!!)

An interesting and exciting plan! I liked the sound of the farm
mentioned by Bootlaces, but I'm v. keen indeed on the idea of having
the last night in the wilds :-)

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The potential fly in the ointment is that I don't know for definitely
postively sure that the first of the shelters is [still] in place...
there's no reason why it shouldn't be but I haven't been up that way
for ages.

I'd have my little tent, though, if it isn't.... And in any event, I'm
not sure whether you're suggesting both huts...

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This little lot would give you an 18 day trip

Are you suggesting doing both of the "Huts" or just the one? It sounds
as though I could walk to the second one on what, on your revised
schedule, has become Day 16, and coast on down to KY on Day 17 with
lots of time in hand :-)

[...]

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Kirk Yetholm is a small place and a teensy bit away
from the bright lights and the transport every-10-mins of the average
metrolups ;-)

I must check timetables. There's so much to do! 🙂

Ta v. much indeed for your suggestions - they're much appreciated.

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Piggles your email spam trap is effective ;-) drop me a line at steve
@ gpsinternet . com

Will do... 🙂

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

In [email hidden]
Peewiglet mused:

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Well, this is the tentative plan.

1. Edale to Crowden (16)
2. Crowden to Standedge (11)
3. Standedge to Hebden Bridge (15)
4. Hebden Bridge to Lothersdale (18)
5. Lothersdale to Malham (14)
6. Malham to Horton-in-Ribblesdale (15)
7. H-in-R to Hawes (14)
8. Hawes to Keld (12.5)
9. Keld to Baldersdale (14)
10. Baldersdale to Middleton-in-Teesdale (6.5)
11. M-in-T to Dufton (20.5)
12. Dufton to Alston (20)
13. Alston to Greenhead (17)
14. Greenhead to Once Brewed (7)
15. Once Brewed to Bellingham (14.5)
16. Bellingham to Byrness (15)
17. Byrness to Kirk Yetholm (mumble mumble...)

Given that you 'plan enormous meals involving large piles of chips
and things in pubs'

I B&B'd/Inn'd the PW, although the southernmost section
(Edale->Hebden) was covered previously (local stomping ground).

I started near Hebden and the itinerary was...

0 - Hebden(ish) <start>
1 - Ponden (Ponden Hall)- 17km/10.5m
2 - East Marton (B&B) - 23km/14.25
3 - Malham [1] (B&B) - 15km/9.25m
4 - H-i-R (the Inn at the top-end of the village) - 25km/15.5m
5 - Hardraw (Green Dragon Inn) - 24km/15.5m
6 - Tan Hill (Inn)- 24km/15.5m
7 - M-i-T (Bluebell Inn) - 26km/16m
8 - Dufton (B&B - short walk to the inn) - 33km/20.5m
9 - Alston (inn) - 31km/20m
10 - Holmhead (just past Greenhead, licensed) - 29km/18m
11 - Lowstead [2] - 26km/16m
12 - Byrness (loads of squaddies in the bar) - 31km/20m
13 - Uswayford - 24km/15m
14 - KY - 22km/13.5m

Which left me day 15 to get back home for w w w w w w wo wr wor wrk work
(which was quite 'foreign' by then).

[1] short day to Malham to open up the possibilities of exploring
Goredale
Scar/Janet's Foss and sampling the first of the Theakstons

[2] fortified farmstead as featured in AW's guide IIRC - dunno if they
still 'do' dinner/B&B - they were licensed.

With the exception of Ponden Hall (worth the experience), all evenings
(if you hadn't already gathered) were spent supping and dining.

P.S. Good luck with the planning/execution of the event.

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Peewiglet mused:

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Yum! Can you recommend anywhere particularly good to eat in Hebden
Bridge? (I'm almost a veggie, but it sounded from my little guide book
as though there might be several nice veggieish places there.)

Not a v. So therefore cannot advise on establishments which meet your
criteria.

<snip>

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With the exception of Ponden Hall (worth the experience), all
evenings (if you hadn't already gathered) were spent supping and
dining.

That sounds perfect to me :-)

Ponden Hall was good, then?

Ponden Hall was mildly 'different'. Not 'bad'/'good' - just different.
Maybe dated. A bit like me and my recollections.

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 23:03:41 +0100, "Bootlaces" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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Ponden Hall was good, then?

Ponden Hall was mildly 'different'. Not 'bad'/'good' - just different.
Maybe dated. A bit like me and my recollections.

Well, different is often good :-) Perhaps I'll try it out!

Thanks!

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

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Steve Orrell mused:

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Oh, OK, maybe not 🙂 I was asking Bootlaces when he'd visited, partly
because I was unaware of what the farm seemed to be offering but also
because over any length of time things might have changed.

Well, they're advertised on the National Trail website...

http://www.nationaltrail.co.uk/pennineway/accommodationlist.asp?settlementID=474

On 11 Aug 2004 17:56:42 GMT, Gareth Babb
<[email hidden]> wrote:

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Plenty of small cafes and such which will meet your criteria, Ruby Juice and
Organic Cafe are two which are recommended.

If you are in Hebden Bridge on friday or saturday then

http://www.laughinggravy.co.uk/

is meant to be very good - we haven't been yet, because other friends in
Hebden Bridge we are meant to be going with keep having to postpone !

If you do come to Hebden Bridge, then feel free to contact me even just to
say hello ...

Wow! Many thanks :-) Even the music on the web site is excellent!
I'll certainly check it out :-)

Best wishes,
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Peewiglet