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Minister presses for 'green lane' curbs on off-road drivers

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  1. Minister presses for 'green lane' curbs on off-road drivers
    By George Jones, Political Editor and David Sapsted
    (Filed: 16/08/2004)

    Curbs on off-road vehicles, quad bikes and motorcycles using bridleways and
    footpaths in the countryside are to be proposed in the autumn.

    Alun Michael, the rural affairs minister, wants to prevent motor vehicles
    gaining access to "green lanes" that have traditionally been used by horses
    and carts.

    The aim is to close a legal loophole that allows historical evidence of use
    by a horse and cart, or dedication as a carriageway before the invention of
    the motor car, to be used to make a claim for a byway open to all traffic -
    which then can be used by modern recreational motor vehicles.

    Four-wheel-drive vehicles and motorcycles have caused considerable damage to
    the 6,000-year-old Ridgeway in southern England and byways and other
    unsurfaced routes on the Yorkshire moors and other areas of outstanding
    national beauty.

    There have been angry confrontations with ramblers and horse riders and
    pressure is mounting at Westminster for action to protect green lanes.

    Mr Michael said that unless evidence could be produced that a byway had an
    existing history of use by motorised traffic, it should not be opened up to
    four-wheel-drive vehicles.

    "It would simply alter the rules so that you could not assert rights of way
    for motorised vehicles on the basis of a horse and cart using it in 1683,"
    Mr Michael said.

    In future new rights of way would be restricted to their traditional use. If
    they had been used by horses, they would become bridleways. If only used by
    walkers, they would become footpaths.

    The Government's proposals will be outlined in a response to a consultation
    document on the future use of unsurfaced byways open to all traffic which is
    expected to be published next month or in October.

    Mr Michael, who received 15,000 submissions to the consultation document,
    made clear that the rules needed to be updated.

    Under the Countryside and Rights of Way Act, people have until 2026 to
    assert claims for a right of way and get them included on a definitive map.
    Mr Michael wants to impose a much shorter time limit for claims for a
    "higher right of way" - enabling motor vehicles to use a track.

    The Government is expected to confirm that it intends to introduce a cut-off
    date a year from the start of new legislation when it would no longer be
    possible to establish a "byway open to all traffic" on the evidence of past
    use by non-mechanically propelled vehicles.

    Mr Michael told The Daily Telegraph that he was anxious to allow responsible
    use of off-road vehicles. "I have challenged the four-by-four users and
    motorcycle groups to recognise that there is a problem and be part of the
    solution rather than part of the problem," he said.

    Campaigners who have been fighting to save the Ridgeway, which runs for 87
    miles from Buckinghamshire to Wiltshire, yesterday welcomed the move as
    "long overdue".

    "The current situation that allows off-road vehicles to churn up a route
    designed for horse and cart is a legal nonsense," said Peter Gould, the
    secretary of the Friends of Ridgeway organisation.

    Meanwhile, the Government is expected to propose action to improve the
    management of countryside rights of way. Mr Michael would like to establish
    a "hierarchy" of rights of way, so that people knew what they could be used
    for, and certain routes to be closed when weather conditions made them
    susceptible to damage.

  2. Quoted message said:

    Mr Michael said that unless evidence could be produced that a byway
    had an existing history of use by motorised traffic, it should not be
    opened up to four-wheel-drive vehicles.

    So this will only apply to new ones, and is not going to change any
    existing bridleway?

  3. Scott Leckey said:


    Minister presses for 'green lane' curbs on off-road drivers
    By George Jones, Political Editor and David Sapsted
    (Filed: 16/08/2004)

    Source
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/08/16/ngreen16.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/08/16/ixhome.html
    http://makeashorterlink.com/?S32521F09

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    from Mark Thompson <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Mr Michael said that unless evidence could be produced that a byway
    had an existing history of use by motorised traffic, it should not be
    opened up to four-wheel-drive vehicles.

    Quoted message said:

    So this will only apply to new ones, and is not going to change any
    existing bridleway?

    There can be relatively few bridleways left that should on current rules
    be made byways so the real target must be the existing byways. Typical
    weasel words from the Minister if the unconfined joy from the anti
    brigade is anything to go by. No doubt he will be looking to introduce a
    requirement of motor use on or before the significant year (well he
    quoted it) of 1683.

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