Re: OT: My favorite teacher died

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Luna <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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I was mortified at the end when he
pointed out that on my beautiful, colorful poster, I had mis-spelled "Los
Angeles" on part of my chart (showing where Ray Bradbury had went to
high-school)

Had GONE to high school, not had "went." Plesae never make that
mistake again. "Went" is past tense -- it stands on its own. If you
are saying "had" or any variation thereof, "went" should be no where
in sight! Gone! Gone! He HAD GONE! Oy.

Michelle has so many good things to say, I can't see faulting her for
saying them imperfectly. The message is what's truly important, not its
delivery. Unless you're in a writing course.

Carol
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Fasting BG: 102
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

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I was mortified at the end when he
pointed out that on my beautiful, colorful poster, I had mis-spelled

"Los

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Angeles" on part of my chart (showing where Ray Bradbury had went to
high-school)

Had GONE to high school, not had "went." Plesae never make that
mistake again. "Went" is past tense -- it stands on its own. If you
are saying "had" or any variation thereof, "went" should be no where
in sight! Gone! Gone! He HAD GONE! Oy.

She writes like she's from Georgia or something.

That's why you're fat and crazy. You don't see the difference between what's
important and what's not.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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I was mortified at the end when he
pointed out that on my beautiful, colorful poster, I had mis-spelled

"Los

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Angeles" on part of my chart (showing where Ray Bradbury had went to
high-school)

Had GONE to high school, not had "went." Plesae never make that
mistake again. "Went" is past tense -- it stands on its own. If you
are saying "had" or any variation thereof, "went" should be no where
in sight! Gone! Gone! He HAD GONE! Oy.

Michelle has so many good things to say, I can't see faulting her for
saying them imperfectly. The message is what's truly important, not its
delivery. Unless you're in a writing course.

Carol
--
Fasting BG: 102
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

Damsel in dis Dress said:

(nimue) said:

Luna <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
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I was mortified at the end when he
pointed out that on my beautiful, colorful poster, I had
mis-spelled "Los Angeles" on part of my chart (showing where Ray
Bradbury had went to high-school)

Had GONE to high school, not had "went." Plesae never make that
mistake again. "Went" is past tense -- it stands on its own. If you
are saying "had" or any variation thereof, "went" should be no where
in sight! Gone! Gone! He HAD GONE! Oy.

Michelle has so many good things to say, I can't see faulting her for
saying them imperfectly. The message is what's truly important, not
its delivery. Unless you're in a writing course.

I am an English teacher. I think both the message and the delivery are very
important. I love everything Michelle has to say. I am a big fan of hers.
I think she is as cute as a button. However, that gone/went thing is a
major pet peeve of mine AND she included it in a description of another,
more minor error she had made. Let's just all be grateful she didn't mess
up her object and subject pronouns -- I can scarcely control myself when
THAT happens.

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Carol

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nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:12:57 GMT, nimue <[email hidden]>

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Damsel in dis Dress said:

(nimue) said:

Luna <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I was mortified at the end when he
> pointed out that on my beautiful, colorful poster, I had
> mis-spelled "Los Angeles" on part of my chart (showing where Ray
> Bradbury had went to high-school)

Had GONE to high school, not had "went." Plesae never make that
mistake again. "Went" is past tense -- it stands on its own. If you
are saying "had" or any variation thereof, "went" should be no where
in sight! Gone! Gone! He HAD GONE! Oy.

Michelle has so many good things to say, I can't see faulting her for
saying them imperfectly. The message is what's truly important, not
its delivery. Unless you're in a writing course.

I am an English teacher. I think both the message and the delivery are
very
important. I love everything Michelle has to say. I am a big fan of
hers.
I think she is as cute as a button. However, that gone/went thing is a
major pet peeve of mine AND she included it in a description of another,
more minor error she had made. Let's just all be grateful she didn't
mess
up her object and subject pronouns -- I can scarcely control myself when
THAT happens.

You have "alot" of nerve! Just kidding! ;-) By the way, how does one
mess up one's object and subject pronouns?

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Bob in CT
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Bob in CT said:

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:12:57 GMT, nimue <[email hidden]>

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Damsel in dis Dress said:

On 13 Jul 2004 15:00:48 -0700, [email hidden] (nimue) wrote:

> Luna <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:<[email hidden]>...
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>
>> I was mortified at the end when he
>> pointed out that on my beautiful, colorful poster, I had
>> mis-spelled "Los Angeles" on part of my chart (showing where Ray
>> Bradbury had went to high-school)
>
> Had GONE to high school, not had "went." Plesae never make that
> mistake again. "Went" is past tense -- it stands on its own. If
> you are saying "had" or any variation thereof, "went" should be no
> where in sight! Gone! Gone! He HAD GONE! Oy.

Michelle has so many good things to say, I can't see faulting her
for saying them imperfectly. The message is what's truly
important, not its delivery. Unless you're in a writing course.

I am an English teacher. I think both the message and the delivery
are very
important. I love everything Michelle has to say. I am a big fan of
hers.
I think she is as cute as a button. However, that gone/went thing
is a major pet peeve of mine AND she included it in a description of
another, more minor error she had made. Let's just all be grateful
she didn't mess
up her object and subject pronouns -- I can scarcely control myself
when THAT happens.

You have "alot" of nerve! Just kidding! ;-) By the way, how does
one mess up one's object and subject pronouns?

LOL! The "a lot" problem is another one of my pet peeves -- you must be
psychic. Many people use subject pronouns where they should use object
pronouns. Newt Gingrich's mother did this in a famous interview where she
complained, "It was supposed to be a secret between Connie and I." No, Mrs.
Newtie, you should have said, "It was supposed to be a secret between Connie
and ME." You see, "I" is a subject pronoun and "me" is an object pronoun.
"Between" is a preposition and any pronoun that follows it had better be an
object pronoun! There is an easy way to remember this. You can just figure
out what other types of pronouns would fit into the sentence. Would you
say, "It's a secret between us" or "It's a secret between we"? Well, you
would say "It's a secret between us," of course, and "us" is an object
pronoun. Therefore, if you break up the pronouns in that part of the
sentence, just use all object pronouns. "It was a secret between me and
her" would be correct. "It was a secret between she and I" would be wrong,
wrong, wrong, and it would make me start screaming at the tv set (as I did
during that interview). The question is -- would I have been more forgiving
of a Democrat's mother? Hmmmmmmm.

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

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(nimue) said:

Luna <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
Snip

Quoted message said:

I was mortified at the end when he
pointed out that on my beautiful, colorful poster, I had mis-spelled "Los
Angeles" on part of my chart (showing where Ray Bradbury had went to
high-school)

Had GONE to high school, not had "went." Plesae never make that
mistake again. "Went" is past tense -- it stands on its own. If you
are saying "had" or any variation thereof, "went" should be no where
in sight! Gone! Gone! He HAD GONE! Oy.

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Yeah, that had been pretty funny, that I had gone and done that.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Damsel in dis Dress said:

(nimue) said:

Luna <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Quoted message said:

I was mortified at the end when he
pointed out that on my beautiful, colorful poster, I had mis-spelled "Los
Angeles" on part of my chart (showing where Ray Bradbury had went to
high-school)

Had GONE to high school, not had "went." Plesae never make that
mistake again. "Went" is past tense -- it stands on its own. If you
are saying "had" or any variation thereof, "went" should be no where
in sight! Gone! Gone! He HAD GONE! Oy.

Michelle has so many good things to say, I can't see faulting her for
saying them imperfectly. The message is what's truly important, not its
delivery. Unless you're in a writing course.

or unless you don't care whether or not people take you seriously.

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:34:44 GMT, [email hidden] (The Queen of Cans

and Jars) said:

Damsel in dis Dress said:

(nimue) said:

Luna <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> I was mortified at the end when he
> pointed out that on my beautiful, colorful poster, I had mis-spelled "Los
> Angeles" on part of my chart (showing where Ray Bradbury had went to
> high-school)

Had GONE to high school, not had "went." Plesae never make that
mistake again. "Went" is past tense -- it stands on its own. If you
are saying "had" or any variation thereof, "went" should be no where
in sight! Gone! Gone! He HAD GONE! Oy.

Michelle has so many good things to say, I can't see faulting her for
saying them imperfectly. The message is what's truly important, not its
delivery. Unless you're in a writing course.

or unless you don't care whether or not people take you seriously.

There are people from all over the world and from all backgrounds who use
newsgroups. I take them all seriously, unless the content of their message
is ridiculous.

My mom was an English fanatic, and if she had lived long enough to have
heard Crash speak, she'd have torn her own ears off and run screaming into
the night.

I take Crash seriously. He's very intelligent, but his parents weren't
educated, and he received his "education" in a [censored]-poor, inner-city
school system.

I don't care if he says, "done" instead of, "did," or anything else that
would be considered atrocious in certain circles. He's a loving, caring
man, and if I ain't happy, he ain't happy, neither.

Carol
--
Fasting BG: 102
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
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There are people from all over the world and from all backgrounds who
use newsgroups. I take them all seriously, unless the content of
their message is ridiculous.

My mom was an English fanatic, and if she had lived long enough to
have heard Crash speak, she'd have torn her own ears off and run
screaming into the night.

I take Crash seriously. He's very intelligent, but his parents
weren't educated, and he received his "education" in a [censored]-poor,
inner-city school system.

I don't care if he says, "done" instead of, "did," or anything else
that would be considered atrocious in certain circles. He's a
loving, caring man, and if I ain't happy, he ain't happy, neither.

Carol

Do you understand that I can correct someone's grammar and still that that
person is a valuble, wonderful member of society? I can correct a person's
grammar and still think that whatever he is trying to say is important and
interesting. My husband commits the gone/went sin every day and I correct
him every time. It doesn't mean I don't love him. It's just how I was
raised. It's automatic. I can't NOT correct grammar -- well, I can, but
it's a real struggle and it takes conscious thought. I correct grammar as
unconsciously as I breathe. Sometimes I do it to be mean, it's true. If a
ng poster is a [censored], I can get nasty. 99% of the time, however, I am
just doing what I do. I am not judging the person -- I just want the
grammar to be perfect. I can be filled with admiration for someone and
still correct that person's grammar. If it makes anyone here feel any
better I just saw something I posted and I wrote "it's" instead of "its."
It should have been "its" and I know it -- I just didn't proof read. Now
it's online for eternity and I can't tell you how much it bothers me. I
mean -- I know the difference! I just didn't proofread!
Arrrrrgggggghhhhhh!

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 03:16:22 GMT, "nimue" <[email hidden]>

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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
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Quoted message said:

There are people from all over the world and from all backgrounds who
use newsgroups. I take them all seriously, unless the content of
their message is ridiculous.

My mom was an English fanatic, and if she had lived long enough to
have heard Crash speak, she'd have torn her own ears off and run
screaming into the night.

I take Crash seriously. He's very intelligent, but his parents
weren't educated, and he received his "education" in a [censored]-poor,
inner-city school system.

I don't care if he says, "done" instead of, "did," or anything else
that would be considered atrocious in certain circles. He's a
loving, caring man, and if I ain't happy, he ain't happy, neither.

Carol

Do you understand that I can correct someone's grammar and still that that
person is a valuble, wonderful member of society? I can correct a person's
grammar and still think that whatever he is trying to say is important and
interesting. My husband commits the gone/went sin every day and I correct
him every time. It doesn't mean I don't love him. It's just how I was
raised. It's automatic. I can't NOT correct grammar -- well, I can, but
it's a real struggle and it takes conscious thought. I correct grammar as
unconsciously as I breathe. Sometimes I do it to be mean, it's true. If a
ng poster is a [censored], I can get nasty. 99% of the time, however, I am
just doing what I do. I am not judging the person -- I just want the
grammar to be perfect. I can be filled with admiration for someone and
still correct that person's grammar. If it makes anyone here feel any
better I just saw something I posted and I wrote "it's" instead of "its."
It should have been "its" and I know it -- I just didn't proof read. Now
it's online for eternity and I can't tell you how much it bothers me. I
mean -- I know the difference! I just didn't proofread!
Arrrrrgggggghhhhhh!

I was responding to the Queen of Cans and Jars when I made that post. She
said it's important to use good grammar if you want to be taken seriously.

I stand by my position that grammar isn't the number one priority of most
people in an informal forum such as Usenet.

My mom used to rip her hair out when I said, "these ones," or "those ones."
I still say one or the other from time to time, but not often. I think of
Mom every time I do, though. :-)

Carol
--
Fasting BG: 102
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

In article <[email hidden]>,

nimue said:

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
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Quoted message said:

There are people from all over the world and from all backgrounds who
use newsgroups. I take them all seriously, unless the content of
their message is ridiculous.

My mom was an English fanatic, and if she had lived long enough to
have heard Crash speak, she'd have torn her own ears off and run
screaming into the night.

I take Crash seriously. He's very intelligent, but his parents
weren't educated, and he received his "education" in a [censored]-poor,
inner-city school system.

I don't care if he says, "done" instead of, "did," or anything else
that would be considered atrocious in certain circles. He's a
loving, caring man, and if I ain't happy, he ain't happy, neither.

Carol

Do you understand that I can correct someone's grammar and still that that
person is a valuble, wonderful member of society? I can correct a person's
grammar and still think that whatever he is trying to say is important and
interesting. My husband commits the gone/went sin every day and I correct
him every time. It doesn't mean I don't love him. It's just how I was
raised. It's automatic. I can't NOT correct grammar -- well, I can, but
it's a real struggle and it takes conscious thought. I correct grammar as
unconsciously as I breathe. Sometimes I do it to be mean, it's true. If a
ng poster is a [censored], I can get nasty. 99% of the time, however, I am
just doing what I do. I am not judging the person -- I just want the
grammar to be perfect. I can be filled with admiration for someone and
still correct that person's grammar. If it makes anyone here feel any
better I just saw something I posted and I wrote "it's" instead of "its."
It should have been "its" and I know it -- I just didn't proof read. Now
it's online for eternity and I can't tell you how much it bothers me. I
mean -- I know the difference! I just didn't proofread!
Arrrrrgggggghhhhhh!

I try to write and speak correctly, I really do. I usually do the "I" and
"me" thing the right way, I usually get "its" and "it's" right, and I
usually have no problem with "their" "there" and "they're." I'm sure I
still make lots of mistakes. Grammar and spelling do matter to me, and I
take no offense when someone corrects my mistakes. I'm just, well, not
perfect, not an expert. I admit I don't proofread my usenet posts as
carefully as I would if I were getting graded, but I do understand the
importance of at least making some effort to use correct English.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 03:55:40 GMT, Luna <[email hidden]>

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I try to write and speak correctly, I really do. I usually do the "I" and
"me" thing the right way, I usually get "its" and "it's" right, and I
usually have no problem with "their" "there" and "they're." I'm sure I
still make lots of mistakes. Grammar and spelling do matter to me, and I
take no offense when someone corrects my mistakes. I'm just, well, not
perfect, not an expert. I admit I don't proofread my usenet posts as
carefully as I would if I were getting graded, but I do understand the
importance of at least making some effort to use correct English.

As do I. (That was me, sounding upper-crust) It doesn't always work out
that way, though, does it? For the first time in my life, I turned the
Spell-Check on, on my newsreader. I've always considered myself a fairly
good speller, but I get a couple of hits on almost every post. Of course,
a lot of them are made-up words, like, "gimme."

Sorry, nimue, that I came off the way I did. I've always been a supporter
of the little guy (Ask some of the people who are in both rec.food.cooking
and asdlc about my history with the subject of Food Snobs. Plenty of blood
has been spilled because of that topic. LOL!).

Anyway, it's bedtime, and before I ramble on any longer, I'm gonna hit the
sheets.

Niters!
Carol
--
Fasting BG: 102
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

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You have "alot" of nerve! Just kidding! ;-) By the way, how does
one mess up one's object and subject pronouns?

LOL! The "a lot" problem is another one of my pet peeves -- you must be
psychic. Many people use subject pronouns where they should use object
pronouns. Newt Gingrich's mother did this in a famous interview where
she
complained, "It was supposed to be a secret between Connie and I." No,
Mrs.
Newtie, you should have said, "It was supposed to be a secret between
Connie
and ME." You see, "I" is a subject pronoun and "me" is an object
pronoun.
"Between" is a preposition and any pronoun that follows it had better be
an
object pronoun! There is an easy way to remember this. You can just
figure
out what other types of pronouns would fit into the sentence. Would you
say, "It's a secret between us" or "It's a secret between we"? Well, you
would say "It's a secret between us," of course, and "us" is an object
pronoun. Therefore, if you break up the pronouns in that part of the
sentence, just use all object pronouns. "It was a secret between me and
her" would be correct. "It was a secret between she and I" would be
wrong,
wrong, wrong, and it would make me start screaming at the tv set (as I
did
during that interview). The question is -- would I have been more
forgiving
of a Democrat's mother? Hmmmmmmm.

I see, that makes sense. I do this sometimes, but rarely. What I'll do
is make a sentence so compicated that even I can't tell what the verbs or
pronouns should be!

--
Bob in CT
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Really! You know damn well it should be "them there ones."

In news:[email hidden],
Damsel in dis Dress <[email hidden]> stated
|
| My mom used to rip her hair out when I said, "these ones," or "those
| ones." I still say one or the other from time to time, but not often.
| I think of Mom every time I do, though. :-)
|
| Carol
| --
| Fasting BG: 102
| Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
| Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

Actually, I find that on average, non native English users do better than
native users. They have been taught proper English from the start. Most
incorrect usage was learned in the home as a child and it can be hard to
change those habits.

In news:[email hidden],
Ignoramus7328 <[email hidden]> stated
|
| I try to write as correctly as I can, given that English is not my
| native language. I almost never misspell words, but, unfortunately, my
| grammar is not so good.
|
| i

<thwacking self on head> You're right! I really screwed that one up!

Damn!
Carol

FOB said:

Really! You know damn well it should be "them there ones."

In news:[email hidden],
Damsel in dis Dress <[email hidden]> stated
|
| My mom used to rip her hair out when I said, "these ones," or "those
| ones." I still say one or the other from time to time, but not often.
| I think of Mom every time I do, though. :-)

--
Fasting BG: 86
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

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From: nimue (Wed, 14 Jul 2004 03:16:22 GMT)
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Do you understand that I can correct someone's grammar and still that

that

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person is a valuble, wonderful member of society? I can correct a

person's

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grammar and still think that whatever he is trying to say is important

and

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interesting. My husband commits the gone/went sin every day and I

correct

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him every time. It doesn't mean I don't love him. It's just how I was
raised. It's automatic. I can't NOT correct grammar -- well, I can,

but

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it's a real struggle and it takes conscious thought. I correct grammar

as

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unconsciously as I breathe. Sometimes I do it to be mean, it's true.

If a

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ng poster is a [censored], I can get nasty. 99% of the time, however, I am
just doing what I do. I am not judging the person -- I just want the
grammar to be perfect. I can be filled with admiration for someone and
still correct that person's grammar. If it makes anyone here feel any
better I just saw something I posted and I wrote "it's" instead of

"its."

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It should have been "its" and I know it -- I just didn't proof read.

Now

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it's online for eternity and I can't tell you how much it bothers me. I
mean -- I know the difference! I just didn't proofread!
Arrrrrgggggghhhhhh!

Do you teach paragraphs?

That wasn't very nice.