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  1. After reading

    http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/oiling.html

    I am concerned that some of the liquid vegetable oils being sold in
    stores may be hydrogenated. Is that true?If so, which oil should I buy
    that is likely not hydrogenated?I am looking for cheap oils for frying
    etc.

    i

  2. Hyrdogenated is not as bad as partially hydrogenated.

    Peanut oil is cheap and good for frying 🙂

    Peace,
    Pen

    "Ignoramus6756" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    After reading

    http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/oiling.html

    I am concerned that some of the liquid vegetable oils being sold in
    stores may be hydrogenated. Is that true?If so, which oil should I buy
    that is likely not hydrogenated?I am looking for cheap oils for frying
    etc.

    i

  3. Ignoramus6756 said:

    After reading

    http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/oiling.html

    I am concerned that some of the liquid vegetable oils being sold in
    stores may be hydrogenated. Is that true?If so, which oil should I buy
    that is likely not hydrogenated?I am looking for cheap oils for frying
    etc.

    i

    If it's liquid at room temperature, then it's likely not hydrogenated. As
    you know from reading Enig's article, some people think that oils from
    plants are to be used in moderation. I use only olive oil. But, like
    you, I'd like to fry stuff. So, you almost have to use cooking oil (or
    perhaps lard). Anyone know what a good substitute for vegetable
    shortening? I'd like to make some Alton Brown recipes, but some of them
    call for frying in vegetable shortening.

    --
    Bob in CT
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  4. I read somewhere that olive oil is not usually hydrogenated because it is
    more stable, which is what they are trying to achieve with oils like
    sunflower and canola by that process. Olive oil is a little more pricey
    though.
    Tom
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    Quoted message said:

    After reading

    http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/oiling.html

    I am concerned that some of the liquid vegetable oils being sold in
    stores may be hydrogenated. Is that true?If so, which oil should I buy
    that is likely not hydrogenated?I am looking for cheap oils for frying
    etc.

    i

  5. Olive Oil, on sale, is a good choice.

    "Ignoramus6756" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    After reading

    http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/oiling.html

    I am concerned that some of the liquid vegetable oils being sold in
    stores may be hydrogenated. Is that true?If so, which oil should I buy
    that is likely not hydrogenated?I am looking for cheap oils for frying
    etc.

    i

  6. "Ignoramus6756" <[email hidden]> pí¹e v diskusním
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    Quoted message said:

    After reading

    http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/oiling.html

    I am concerned that some of the liquid vegetable oils being sold in
    stores may be hydrogenated. Is that true?If so, which oil should I buy
    that is likely not hydrogenated?I am looking for cheap oils for frying
    etc.

    Only common liquid oil safe for cooking at moderate temperatures is
    extra virgin olive oil.

    Do not use anything else. Do not believe dr. Atkins about
    polyunsaturated fats - he was wrong in this point. Hydrogenation makes
    vegetable oils even worse, but they are pretty bad for your health even
    without it.

    Mirek

  7. Mirek Fidler said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    After reading

    http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/oiling.html

    I am concerned that some of the liquid vegetable oils being sold in
    stores may be hydrogenated. Is that true?If so, which oil should I


    buy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that is likely not hydrogenated?I am looking for cheap oils for


    frying

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    etc.

    i

    If it's liquid at room temperature, then it's likely not hydrogenated.


    As

    Quoted message said:

    you know from reading Enig's article, some people think that oils from
    plants are to be used in moderation. I use only olive oil. But, like
    you, I'd like to fry stuff. So, you almost have to use cooking oil


    (or

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps lard). Anyone know what a good substitute for vegetable
    shortening? I'd like to make some Alton Brown recipes, but some of


    them

    Quoted message said:

    call for frying in vegetable shortening.

    Lard, butter. Or you can use olive oil for frying, why not? I use extra
    virgin for almost everything.

    Anyway, if I am about to fry a steak, there is no other alternative than
    lard - it greatly enhances flavor of meat.

    Mirek

    I think olive oil isn't used because of its low smoke point. Similarly,
    butter also has a low smoke point. So, I'll have to go with lard.

    --
    Bob in CT
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  8. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    After reading

    http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/oiling.html

    I am concerned that some of the liquid vegetable oils being sold in
    stores may be hydrogenated. Is that true?If so, which oil should I


    buy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that is likely not hydrogenated?I am looking for cheap oils for


    frying

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    etc.

    i

    If it's liquid at room temperature, then it's likely not hydrogenated.


    As

    Quoted message said:

    you know from reading Enig's article, some people think that oils from
    plants are to be used in moderation. I use only olive oil. But, like
    you, I'd like to fry stuff. So, you almost have to use cooking oil


    (or

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps lard). Anyone know what a good substitute for vegetable
    shortening? I'd like to make some Alton Brown recipes, but some of


    them

    Quoted message said:

    call for frying in vegetable shortening.

    Lard, butter. Or you can use olive oil for frying, why not? I use extra
    virgin for almost everything.

    Anyway, if I am about to fry a steak, there is no other alternative than
    lard - it greatly enhances flavor of meat.

    Mirek

  9. In article said:

    Hyrdogenated is not as bad as partially hydrogenated.

    Peanut oil is cheap and good for frying 🙂

    Thanks, my son is allergic to nuts, so peanut oil is out... Otherwise
    yes, I would buy it.

    i

  10. In article said:

    If it's liquid at room temperature, then it's likely not hydrogenated. As
    you know from reading Enig's article, some people think that oils from
    plants are to be used in moderation. I use only olive oil. But, like
    you, I'd like to fry stuff. So, you almost have to use cooking oil (or
    perhaps lard). Anyone know what a good substitute for vegetable
    shortening? I'd like to make some Alton Brown recipes, but some of them
    call for frying in vegetable shortening.

    If you can find non-hydrogenated lard, good for you.

    I recently bought some cheap pork fat, maybe I will simply render some
    fat from it.

    i

  11. Ignoramus6756 said:
    In article said:

    If it's liquid at room temperature, then it's likely not hydrogenated.
    As
    you know from reading Enig's article, some people think that oils from
    plants are to be used in moderation. I use only olive oil. But, like
    you, I'd like to fry stuff. So, you almost have to use cooking oil (or
    perhaps lard). Anyone know what a good substitute for vegetable
    shortening? I'd like to make some Alton Brown recipes, but some of them
    call for frying in vegetable shortening.

    If you can find non-hydrogenated lard, good for you.

    I recently bought some cheap pork fat, maybe I will simply render some
    fat from it.

    i

    That's interesting -- I'll have to look for non-hydrogened lard. I don't
    know why they'd hydrogenate it -- it's a solid at room temperature. I
    could also use coconut oil, of which I can find non-hydrogenated versions.

    --
    Bob in CT
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  12. Once again, fully hydrogenated is fine. PARTIALLY hydrogenated is when you
    get into trouble.

    Peace,
    Pen

    "Ignoramus6756" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    In article said:
    Ignoramus6756 said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Bob in CT wrote:
    > If it's liquid at room temperature, then it's likely not hydrogenated.
    > As
    > you know from reading Enig's article, some people think that oils from
    > plants are to be used in moderation. I use only olive oil. But, like
    > you, I'd like to fry stuff. So, you almost have to use cooking oil


    (or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > perhaps lard). Anyone know what a good substitute for vegetable
    > shortening? I'd like to make some Alton Brown recipes, but some of


    them

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > call for frying in vegetable shortening.

    If you can find non-hydrogenated lard, good for you.

    I recently bought some cheap pork fat, maybe I will simply render some
    fat from it.

    i

    That's interesting -- I'll have to look for non-hydrogened lard. I


    don't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    know why they'd hydrogenate it -- it's a solid at room temperature. I
    could also use coconut oil, of which I can find non-hydrogenated


    versions.

    Quoted message said:


    I was at a big Polish store recently, they were selling lard in tubs,
    but, unfortunately, it was hydrogenated.

    i

  13. In article said:
    Ignoramus6756 said:
    In article said:

    If it's liquid at room temperature, then it's likely not hydrogenated.
    As
    you know from reading Enig's article, some people think that oils from
    plants are to be used in moderation. I use only olive oil. But, like
    you, I'd like to fry stuff. So, you almost have to use cooking oil (or
    perhaps lard). Anyone know what a good substitute for vegetable
    shortening? I'd like to make some Alton Brown recipes, but some of them
    call for frying in vegetable shortening.

    If you can find non-hydrogenated lard, good for you.

    I recently bought some cheap pork fat, maybe I will simply render some
    fat from it.

    i

    That's interesting -- I'll have to look for non-hydrogened lard. I don't
    know why they'd hydrogenate it -- it's a solid at room temperature. I
    could also use coconut oil, of which I can find non-hydrogenated versions.

    I was at a big Polish store recently, they were selling lard in tubs,
    but, unfortunately, it was hydrogenated.

    i

  14. "Ignoramus6756" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Peanut oil is cheap and good for frying 🙂


    Thanks, my son is allergic to nuts, so peanut oil is


    out...

    Peanuts aren't "nuts". They're legumes. Like beans, and
    peas, and lentils. They just happen to grow underground.

    Quoted message said:

    Otherwise yes, I would buy it.

    Ball's in your court.

    --
    Bob
    Kanyak's Doghouse
    http://www.kanyak.com

  15. In article said:

    Once again, fully hydrogenated is fine. PARTIALLY hydrogenated is when you
    get into trouble.

    So, is fully hydrogenated margarine fine then?

    i

    Quoted message said:

    Peace,
    Pen

    "Ignoramus6756" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    In article said:

    On 30 Jul 2004 19:31:19 GMT, Ignoramus6756
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > In article <[email hidden]>, Bob in CT wrote:
    >> If it's liquid at room temperature, then it's likely not hydrogenated.
    >> As
    >> you know from reading Enig's article, some people think that oils from
    >> plants are to be used in moderation. I use only olive oil. But, like
    >> you, I'd like to fry stuff. So, you almost have to use cooking oil


    (or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> perhaps lard). Anyone know what a good substitute for vegetable
    >> shortening? I'd like to make some Alton Brown recipes, but some of


    them

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> call for frying in vegetable shortening.
    >
    > If you can find non-hydrogenated lard, good for you.
    >
    > I recently bought some cheap pork fat, maybe I will simply render some
    > fat from it.
    >
    > i

    That's interesting -- I'll have to look for non-hydrogened lard. I


    don't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    know why they'd hydrogenate it -- it's a solid at room temperature. I
    could also use coconut oil, of which I can find non-hydrogenated


    versions.

    Quoted message said:


    I was at a big Polish store recently, they were selling lard in tubs,
    but, unfortunately, it was hydrogenated.

    i

  16. "Ignoramus6756" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Penelope


    Baker said:
    Quoted message said:

    Once again, fully hydrogenated is fine. PARTIALLY hydrogenated is when


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    get into trouble.

    So, is fully hydrogenated margarine fine then?

    I wouldn't know. I've always eaten butter for it's health benefits :-\

    Does margarine even come in fully hydrogenated types?

    Peace,
    Pen

  17. Ignoramus6756 <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    After reading

    http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/oiling.html

    I am concerned that some of the liquid vegetable oils being sold in
    stores may be hydrogenated. Is that true?If so, which oil should I buy
    that is likely not hydrogenated?I am looking for cheap oils for frying
    etc.

    The level of saturation of a fat is reflected by how liquid it is at room
    temperature. Any liquid oil is not hydrogenated.

    However, you can hydrogenate it yourself by heating it, so it's best not to
    reuse oil that you've used for deep-frying.

    Chakolate

    --
    When people show you who they are, believe them.
    --Maya Angelou

  18. "Opinicus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Peanuts aren't "nuts". They're legumes. Like beans, and
    peas, and lentils. They just happen to grow underground.

    Most nuts don't grow undergound though a few do grow
    on usenet...

    LOL BJ

  19. Here is a good link that speaks clearly, in layman's terms.

    http://www.bantransfats.com/faq.htm

    Peace,
    Pen

    "Penelope Baker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Ignoramus6756" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Penelope


    Baker said:
    Quoted message said:

    Once again, fully hydrogenated is fine. PARTIALLY hydrogenated is


    when

    Quoted message said:

    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    get into trouble.

    So, is fully hydrogenated margarine fine then?

    I wouldn't know. I've always eaten butter for it's health benefits :-\

    Does margarine even come in fully hydrogenated types?

    Peace,
    Pen

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob in CT said:
    Ignoramus6756 said:

    I am concerned that some of the liquid vegetable oils being sold in
    stores may be hydrogenated. Is that true?If so, which oil should I buy
    that is likely not hydrogenated?I am looking for cheap oils for frying
    etc.

    If it's liquid at room temperature, then it's likely not hydrogenated. As
    you know from reading Enig's article, some people think that oils from
    plants are to be used in moderation. I use only olive oil. But, like
    you, I'd like to fry stuff. So, you almost have to use cooking oil (or
    perhaps lard). Anyone know what a good substitute for vegetable
    shortening? I'd like to make some Alton Brown recipes, but some of them
    call for frying in vegetable shortening.

    I like canola oil, but I make sure I buy a kind that is labeled as
    "expeller pressed" or "cold pressed." Otherwise it may be chemically
    extracted and contain residue from that process. I forget what the
    problem is with that residue, but I do remember that It Is Bad.

    Trader Joe has expeller/cold pressed olive and canola oil.

    Priscilla

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