Re: Cholesterol Advice Needed

MU said:

Howard said:

Big Macs and fries are *not* low-carb. Clinton was low-carbing maybe
3 months before the discovery of his heart problems, which were caused
by a lifetime of junk food, not by his more recent (moderately)
low-carb diet.

Your proof of this is.........?

Step aside, flyweight. It's about science which we both know is far
over your pretty little head.

Bob

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

Owen Lowe said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

And, indeed autopsies
of young men who have died in combat leads us to believe the there is
some degree of CAD in *everyone* with high LDL and low HDL.

At my last checkup and review of my stress-echo my cardiologist stated
that plaque build up on the order of up to 40 and 50% of the arterial
cross section are quite common and come and go over time.

I might believe such a conversation taking place after an angiogram but
not after a stress-echo which is not a test that can quantify the degree
of plaque build-up.

Quoted message said:

If this is an
accurate observation,

It is not.

Quoted message said:

then perhaps the military autopsies merely showed
instances of the ebb and flow rather than the foundations for a
continuous build up over a lifetime.

That would not explain the pristinely clean coronary arteries of those
young men with low LDL and high HDL.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
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Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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Why do you have to post all of your Jesus nonsense in Usenet? There are many
people who do not believe in such fairy tales.

--
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intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

"Robert Schuh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Why do you have to post all of your Jesus nonsense in Usenet? There are

many

Quoted message said:

people who do not believe in such fairy tales.

--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

Save your breath. Andrew Chung is a religious zealot and cross-posting
internet whacko of long standing. He is convinced that he is on a mission
from god, and has been granted special powers of "truth discernment" that
other mere mortals are not privy to.

A Google Groups search for "Andrew Chung Troll" returns nearly 1700 hits:
http://groups.google.com/groups?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=andrew+chung+troll

A similar search for "Andrew Chung idiot" returns over 2000 hits:
http://groups.google.com/groups?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=andrew+chung+idiot

GG

Robert Schuh <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

Owen Lowe said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD) wrote:

> And, indeed autopsies
> of young men who have died in combat leads us to believe the
> there is some degree of CAD in *everyone* with high LDL and low
> HDL.

At my last checkup and review of my stress-echo my cardiologist
stated that plaque build up on the order of up to 40 and 50% of the
arterial cross section are quite common and come and go over time.

I might believe such a conversation taking place after an angiogram
but not after a stress-echo which is not a test that can quantify the
degree of plaque build-up.

Quoted message said:

If this is an
accurate observation,

It is not.

Quoted message said:

then perhaps the military autopsies merely showed
instances of the ebb and flow rather than the foundations for a
continuous build up over a lifetime.

That would not explain the pristinely clean coronary arteries of
those young men with low LDL and high HDL.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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Why do you have to post all of your Jesus nonsense in Usenet? There
are many people who do not believe in such fairy tales.

Uh...because he's a kook?

L.

Robert Schuh said:

Why do you have to post all of your Jesus nonsense in Usenet? There are many
people who do not believe in such fairy tales.

Since when is Usenet only for the posting of what you determine to be
untrue?

MU said:

Robert Schuh said:

Why do you have to post all of your Jesus nonsense in Usenet? There are many
people who do not believe in such fairy tales.

Since when is Usenet only for the posting of what you determine to be
untrue?

Um... somebody wanna help him with this...

Bob

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob (this one) said:

MU said:

Robert Schuh said:

Why do you have to post all of your Jesus nonsense in Usenet? There are many
people who do not believe in such fairy tales.

Since when is Usenet only for the posting of what you determine to be
untrue?

Um... somebody wanna help him with this...

What? Are you having trouble setting up a killfile?

Priscilla

Priscilla Ballou said:

Bob (this one) said:

MU said:

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:08:49 -0700, Robert Schuh wrote:

>Why do you have to post all of your Jesus nonsense in Usenet? There are many
>people who do not believe in such fairy tales.

Since when is Usenet only for the posting of what you determine to be
untrue?

Um... somebody wanna help him with this...

What? Are you having trouble setting up a killfile?

Of course not; I wasn't asking for anything for myself. I was just
asking for help for my worthy brother here from people who can see his
logical and language flaws and help him into the light of English
usage that makes sense. It was a purely altruistic plea for remedial
assistance for a downtrodden loser to be brought to the level of,
like, a normal person.

Oh, I see what you mean. Better to just lop him off at the knees, huh?

Bob

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

Bob (this one) said:

Priscilla Ballou said:

"Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>MU wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:08:49 -0700, Robert Schuh wrote:
>>
>>>Why do you have to post all of your Jesus nonsense in Usenet? There are many
>>>people who do not believe in such fairy tales.
>>
>>Since when is Usenet only for the posting of what you determine to be
>>untrue?
>
>Um... somebody wanna help him with this...

What? Are you having trouble setting up a killfile?

<hiss sputter hiss hiss>

<LOL>

Bob

Bob (this one) said:

Priscilla Ballou said:

Bob (this one) said:

MU wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:08:49 -0700, Robert Schuh wrote:
>
>>Why do you have to post all of your Jesus nonsense in Usenet? There are many
>>people who do not believe in such fairy tales.
>
>Since when is Usenet only for the posting of what you determine to be
>untrue?

Um... somebody wanna help him with this...

What? Are you having trouble setting up a killfile?

<hiss sputter hiss hiss>

Bob

You poor guy.

You remain in my prayers, dear Bob whom I love.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
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Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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Priscilla Ballou said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob (this one) said:

MU said:

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:08:49 -0700, Robert Schuh wrote:

>Why do you have to post all of your Jesus nonsense in Usenet? There are many
>people who do not believe in such fairy tales.

Since when is Usenet only for the posting of what you determine to be
untrue?

Um... somebody wanna help him with this...

What? Are you having trouble setting up a killfile?

Priscilla

Bob is in a lot of trouble.

Would suggest you pray for him, dear Priscilla whom I love.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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GaryG said:

"Robert Schuh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Why do you have to post all of your Jesus nonsense in Usenet? There are

many

Quoted message said:

people who do not believe in such fairy tales.

--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

Save your breath. Andrew Chung is a religious zealot and cross-posting
internet whacko of long standing.

Ouch. You may have at the other cheek.

Quoted message said:

He is convinced that he is on a mission
from god, and has been granted special powers of "truth discernment" that
other mere mortals are not privy to.

There remains others who have also been given this spiritual gift from
God.

Quoted message said:

A Google Groups search for "Andrew Chung Troll" returns nearly 1700 hits:

As discussed before, the same search for "Andrew Chung Cardiologist
returns over 14,400 hits.

http://groups.google.com/groups?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=andrew+chung+cardiologist

Truth is simple.

You remain in my prayers, dear Gary whom I love.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
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Board-Certified Cardiologist
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Robert Schuh said:

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

That would not explain the pristinely clean coronary arteries of those
young men with low LDL and high HDL.

Quoted message said:

Why do you have to post all of your Jesus nonsense in Usenet?

Sorry you feel that Christ is nonsense.

Quoted message said:

There are many
people who do not believe in such fairy tales.

Sorry you feel that the Gospels are fairy tales.

You will be in my prayers, dear Robert whom I love.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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Priscilla Ballou <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob (this one) said:

MU said:

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:08:49 -0700, Robert Schuh wrote:

>Why do you have to post all of your Jesus nonsense in Usenet? There
>are many people who do not believe in such fairy tales.

Since when is Usenet only for the posting of what you determine to
be untrue?

Um... somebody wanna help him with this...

What? Are you having trouble setting up a killfile?

Priscilla

I finally set one up. Should have done it a while ago. Now, it's almost a
pleasure reading the group (....well, not really).

Seriously, it's unfortunately, the *only* way to deal (cope) with kooks
like Dr. Chung, Carol T and the like.

L.

BOB:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Um... somebody wanna help him with this...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What? Are you having trouble setting up a killfile?

Priscilla

MD/PhD said:

Bob is in a lot of trouble.

Would suggest you pray for him, dear Priscilla whom I love.

Prayer will help. My sense is he will need, in the near future, "temporal"
assistance.

Maybe he and Nagler can eat lunch together.