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Benefits of whole carb foods confirmed

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  1. The med. diet uses whole carb food sources as a rule, as does the dash
    diet and seems the direction the newer dietary guidelines likely to go.
    It is an intresting observation that atkins is mentioned, even though the
    kind of previous research on which this is based has nothing to do with
    him or his diet books; he did no research. It seems we are doomed to have
    "atkins" as a generic term whenever carbs are discussed, just as kleenex
    is for tissue for nose blowing. In any case, use of complex whole carb
    food sources provide clear support for including them in a mixed diet, in
    this study 69 percent was from carb sources and weight and health benefits
    were evident:

    http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2004-08/chb-ndv082304.php

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    The med. diet uses whole carb food sources as a rule, as does the dash
    diet and seems the direction the newer dietary guidelines likely to go.
    It is an intresting observation that atkins is mentioned, even though the
    kind of previous research on which this is based has nothing to do with
    him or his diet books; he did no research. It seems we are doomed to have
    "atkins" as a generic term whenever carbs are discussed, just as kleenex
    is for tissue for nose blowing. In any case, use of complex whole carb
    food sources provide clear support for including them in a mixed diet, in
    this study 69 percent was from carb sources and weight and health benefits
    were evident:

    http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2004-08/chb-ndv082304.php

    Again this is nothing new. Yes the low GI diet is healthier in
    relation to a high GI diet. That is what this study shows. You are
    doing exactly what you accuse others of doing by saying this study
    proves something it does not. The study does not provide "clear
    support" for including whole complex carbs in a mixed diet. It gives
    support to a low GI diet over a high GI diet. Hardly ground breaking.
    Why dont you admit that you view things with just as much bias and
    preconceived notions as the others who you accuse of the same thing.
    And while you are at it you can thank me for pointing this out to you
    so you can avoid such things in the future.

    What is funny about this study is it shows directly that high GI diets
    lead to risk factors for heart disease and diabetes. Risk factors
    they have previously blamed on fats(especially saturated fat). Fat
    was not even a factor in this study. They unwittingly added yet more
    evidence against their preconceived ideas and false theories like the
    lipid hypothesis. Despite this they do not even consider the reality
    of what they have observed and what significance and impact it has on
    those previous assumptions. Anyone who looks at this rationally and
    unbiasedly can understand such significance. One can easily see that
    while fat was not a factor in the increased risks of disease in this
    study GI has always been an uncontrolled, unconsidered factor in
    previous studies that blamed saturated fat. Could this possibly be
    why there is so little relation between cholesterol and fat to
    disease. Could this be why their observations are always so
    inconsistent? Maybe if they designed real studies that could reveal
    deeper truths they would learn something. That would be real science
    as it is done in most other scientific fields.

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