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Re: Bell/Horn safer or hazard?

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  1. Bell is safer that someone shouting "WATCH YOUR LEFT" (STUPID)
    Experience riders will never put a stinking bell on the bike, it is too
    girly-man (not-matcho)
    But Great for kids!

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    My kids ride in residential streets or in bike lanes in an area where
    pedestrians walk on the sidewalks and bikes stay on the asphalt.

    The Rules for Bike Safety listed in my son's Cub Scout handbook say that


    he must

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    have a bell or a horn on his bike. Local law does not require them.

    I was taught that such things are more of a hazard than a help, at least


    to a

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    relatively inexperienced child, because he is likely to waste time


    reaching for

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    the bell when he should be hitting the brakes.

    Keep in mind that this is a kid on a 1-speed bike with hand brakes who


    rarely

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    gets above 10mph. Neither weight nor dorkiness are issues.

    I'm considering telling him that having the card in his spokes to make


    that cool

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    motorcycle sound takes the place of a bell or horn.

    Is there a consensus among experienced riders about the value of bells or


    horns

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    when riding under these conditions?

    Thanks

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    On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:05:19 -0600, "fe" <[email hidden]> claims:

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    Bell is safer that someone shouting "WATCH YOUR LEFT" (STUPID)

    I have an "incredibell" (sp?) on my handlebar that goes ding ding.
    Pedestrians seem to like the ding ding and usually move to the right side.
    Horns would be rude but a nice ding ding is a non-hostile announcement. I
    then say 'on your left' and 'good day.'

    On the road when somebody drives by me with their horn blasting, I go ding
    ding as well, but (a) don't say 'good day' and (b) assume they don't hear
    me. I don't know why this keeps me calm, but it does.

    Alan Acock

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    On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:05:19 -0600, "fe" <[email hidden]> claims:

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    Bell is safer that someone shouting "WATCH YOUR LEFT" (STUPID)

    I have an "incredibell" (sp?) on my handlebar that goes ding ding.
    Pedestrians seem to like the ding ding and usually move to the right side.
    Horns would be rude but a nice ding ding is a non-hostile announcement. I
    then say 'on your left' and 'good day.'

    On the road when somebody drives by me with their horn blasting, I go ding
    ding as well, but (a) don't say 'good day' and (b) assume they don't hear
    me. I don't know why this keeps me calm, but it does.

    Alan Acock

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    On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:05:19 -0600, "fe" <[email hidden]> claims:

    >Bell is safer that someone shouting "WATCH YOUR LEFT" (STUPID)

    I have an "incredibell" (sp?) on my handlebar that goes ding ding.
    Pedestrians seem to like the ding ding and usually move to the right side.
    Horns would be rude but a nice ding ding is a non-hostile announcement. I
    then say 'on your left' and 'good day.'

    On the road when somebody drives by me with their horn blasting, I go ding
    ding as well, but (a) don't say 'good day' and (b) assume they don't hear
    me. I don't know why this keeps me calm, but it does.

    Alan Acock

    As a pedestrian, bell sounds polite, just "ON YOUR LEFT" sounds like a ruddy
    pushy [censored] need a break from his stinking bicycle.

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    On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:05:19 -0600, "fe" <[email hidden]> claims:

    >Bell is safer that someone shouting "WATCH YOUR LEFT" (STUPID)

    I have an "incredibell" (sp?) on my handlebar that goes ding ding.
    Pedestrians seem to like the ding ding and usually move to the right side.
    Horns would be rude but a nice ding ding is a non-hostile announcement. I
    then say 'on your left' and 'good day.'

    On the road when somebody drives by me with their horn blasting, I go ding
    ding as well, but (a) don't say 'good day' and (b) assume they don't hear
    me. I don't know why this keeps me calm, but it does.

    Alan Acock

    As a pedestrian, bell sounds polite, just "ON YOUR LEFT" sounds like a ruddy
    pushy [censored] need a break from his stinking bicycle.

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    "Alan Acock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:05:19 -0600, "fe" <[email hidden]> claims:
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    >>Bell is safer that someone shouting "WATCH YOUR LEFT" (STUPID)

    I have an "incredibell" (sp?) on my handlebar that goes ding ding.
    Pedestrians seem to like the ding ding and usually move to the right


    side.

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    Horns would be rude but a nice ding ding is a non-hostile announcement.


    I

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    then say 'on your left' and 'good day.'

    On the road when somebody drives by me with their horn blasting, I go


    ding

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    Quoted message said:

    ding as well, but (a) don't say 'good day' and (b) assume they don't


    hear

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    me. I don't know why this keeps me calm, but it does.

    Alan Acock

    As a pedestrian, bell sounds polite, just "ON YOUR LEFT" sounds like a


    ruddy

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    pushy [censored] need a break from his stinking bicycle.

    The high frequency pitch of a bell is also easier for pedestrians to
    identify as a bicycle, and easier for them to locate the direction from
    which the sound emanates (high frequency sounds are easier to locate in
    space than low frequency sounds). This is especially true for elderly
    pedestrians. The bell is also much less likely to startle a pedestrian than
    shouting "ON YOUR LEFT!".

    GG

  7. I always slow down, and if they don't hear my sprocket clicking, I usually
    say excuse me and they get over.

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    "Alan Acock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >>On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:05:19 -0600, "fe" <[email hidden]> claims:
    >>
    >>>Bell is safer that someone shouting "WATCH YOUR LEFT" (STUPID)

    I have an "incredibell" (sp?) on my handlebar that goes ding ding.
    Pedestrians seem to like the ding ding and usually move to the right


    side.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Horns would be rude but a nice ding ding is a non-hostile announcement.


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    then say 'on your left' and 'good day.'

    On the road when somebody drives by me with their horn blasting, I go


    ding

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ding as well, but (a) don't say 'good day' and (b) assume they don't


    hear

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    me. I don't know why this keeps me calm, but it does.

    Alan Acock

    As a pedestrian, bell sounds polite, just "ON YOUR LEFT" sounds like a


    ruddy

    Quoted message said:

    pushy [censored] need a break from his stinking bicycle.

    The high frequency pitch of a bell is also easier for pedestrians to
    identify as a bicycle, and easier for them to locate the direction from
    which the sound emanates (high frequency sounds are easier to locate in
    space than low frequency sounds). This is especially true for elderly
    pedestrians. The bell is also much less likely to startle a pedestrian
    than
    shouting "ON YOUR LEFT!".

    GG

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