George W. Bush

Mike Vandeman said:

The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans support a
"president" who (1) was not legitimately elected,

this time:
a) 31 states to 19 + DC
b) majority of electoral vote
c) no popular vote disagreement with the electoral college
d) _majority_ of the popular vote!

just because you didn't recognize it the last time isn't our
problem...but now you have no debate.

bri
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bri719 said:

Mike Vandeman said:

The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans
support a "president" who (1) was not legitimately elected,

this time:
a) 31 states to 19 + DC
b) majority of electoral vote
c) no popular vote disagreement with the electoral college
d) _majority_ of the popular vote!

just because you didn't recognize it the last time isn't our
problem...but now you have no debate.

Yes. Kerry has conceded so now Bush is an *elected* dictator. But hey, so
was Saddam.. Mostly provided by the wealthy ( over $200,000 income ), and
the 'born again' christians that think that he has a direct pipeline to the
almighty and who are feeling 'righteous' in starting another 'Crusade'
against the infidels. Worse, the Senate and House of Reps is no longer
evenly divided and can be counted on to rubberstamp his policies against
health, the environment, the economy, international security, public access,
human rights, and social stability.

Enjoy.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mike Vandeman said:

The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans support a
"president" who (1) was not legitimately elected, (2) violates binding
treaties,
(3) puts the profits of corporations above the protection of our health and
our
environment, (4) waged war without the Congressional declaration of war
required
by our Constitution, (5) killed approximately 40 times as many innocent
people
as Osama Bin Laden, (6) has no respect for the United Nations, and (7) is
almost
universally hated around the world. And we are expected to be PROUD to be an
American? Not at the moment.

Michael J. Vandeman

I enthusiastically cast my vote for Bush-Cheney yesterday, and am
delighted at the prospect of not having John Kerry as president. After
eight dark years of Clinton administration, Bush has been a welcome
change. I'm especially thankful today to the Swift Boat Vets and POWs
for countering Kerry's artful portrayal of Vietnam years, and to the
good folks of South Dakota for defeating one of those responsible for
stonewalling in Bill Clinton's Senate trial.

Sorry that you're so glum, though. Hope you get better!

Very truly,

Steve Schulin
http://www.nuclear.com/environment/climate_policy/default.html

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bri719 said:

Mike Vandeman said:

The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans
support a "president" who (1) was not legitimately elected,

this time:
a) 31 states to 19 + DC
b) majority of electoral vote
c) no popular vote disagreement with the electoral college
d) _majority_ of the popular vote!

just because you didn't recognize it the last time isn't our
problem...but now you have no debate.

Yes. Kerry has conceded so now Bush is an *elected* dictator. But hey, so
was Saddam.. Mostly provided by the wealthy ( over $200,000 income ), and
the 'born again' christians that think that he has a direct pipeline to

the

Quoted message said:

almighty and who are feeling 'righteous' in starting another 'Crusade'
against the infidels. Worse, the Senate and House of Reps is no longer
evenly divided and can be counted on to rubberstamp his policies against
health, the environment, the economy, international security, public

access,

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human rights, and social stability.

Enjoy.

Don't forget the MacDaddy of elected leaders - Arafat (got 87% of the vote)
! Bush claims to bring democracy to the rest of the world & yet opposes (or
fails to support) democratically elected leaders & sides with tyrannies such
as China & Pakistan.

"Steve Schulin" wrote

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I enthusiastically cast my vote for Bush-Cheney yesterday, and am
delighted at the prospect of not having John Kerry as president. After
eight dark years of Clinton administration, Bush has been a welcome
change. I'm especially thankful today to the Swift Boat Vets and POWs
for countering Kerry's artful portrayal of Vietnam years, and to the
good folks of South Dakota for defeating one of those responsible for
stonewalling in Bill Clinton's Senate trial.

Sorry that you're so glum, though. Hope you get better!

Very truly,

Steve Schulin
http://www.nuclear.com/environment/climate_policy/default.html

I humbly disagree. Now, let's talk about mountain bikes and mountain
biking.

CG

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bri719 said:

Mike Vandeman wrote:

> The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans
> support a "president" who (1) was not legitimately elected,
>
this time:
a) 31 states to 19 + DC
b) majority of electoral vote
c) no popular vote disagreement with the electoral college
d) _majority_ of the popular vote!

just because you didn't recognize it the last time isn't our
problem...but now you have no debate.

Yes. Kerry has conceded so now Bush is an *elected* dictator. But hey,

so

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was Saddam.. Mostly provided by the wealthy ( over $200,000 income ),

and

Quoted message said:

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the 'born again' christians that think that he has a direct pipeline to

the

Quoted message said:

almighty and who are feeling 'righteous' in starting another 'Crusade'
against the infidels. Worse, the Senate and House of Reps is no longer
evenly divided and can be counted on to rubberstamp his policies against
health, the environment, the economy, international security, public

access,

Quoted message said:

human rights, and social stability.

Enjoy.

Don't forget the MacDaddy of elected leaders - Arafat (got 87% of the

vote)

Quoted message said:

! Bush claims to bring democracy to the rest of the world & yet opposes

(or

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fails to support) democratically elected leaders & sides with tyrannies

such

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as China & Pakistan.

I don't know how the Republicans can loose the Presidency if these morons
are the measure of the opposition.

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I don't know how the Republicans can loose the Presidency if these morons
are the measure of the opposition.

Itz cuz there's so many of 'em...

Dusty
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bri719 said:

Mike Vandeman wrote:

> The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans
> support a "president" who (1) was not legitimately elected,
>
this time:
a) 31 states to 19 + DC
b) majority of electoral vote
c) no popular vote disagreement with the electoral college
d) _majority_ of the popular vote!

just because you didn't recognize it the last time isn't our
problem...but now you have no debate.

Yes. Kerry has conceded so now Bush is an *elected* dictator. But hey,

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

was Saddam.. Mostly provided by the wealthy ( over $200,000 income ),

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the 'born again' christians that think that he has a direct pipeline to

the

Quoted message said:

almighty and who are feeling 'righteous' in starting another 'Crusade'
against the infidels. Worse, the Senate and House of Reps is no longer
evenly divided and can be counted on to rubberstamp his policies against
health, the environment, the economy, international security, public

access,

Quoted message said:

human rights, and social stability.

Enjoy.

Don't forget the MacDaddy of elected leaders - Arafat (got 87% of the

vote)

Quoted message said:

! Bush claims to bring democracy to the rest of the world & yet opposes

(or

Quoted message said:

fails to support) democratically elected leaders & sides with tyrannies

such

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as China & Pakistan.

It's over. You people can stop campaigning now. Get over it and 'moveon'.
🙂

Is nowhere safe from the political discussion? Even here in our forum of
leisure we must discuss who said what and who does what in politics? Give it
a rest guys - if you want to discuss it go to the bar or your local
political debate club, leave this area bike related.

J

Chris Phillipo said:

Oh [censored] now I have to support bush, thanks a lot mikey.

LOL! The best comment on this entire political [censored].

:-))

--Kamus

Chris Phillipo said:

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Subject: George W. Bush
From: Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]>
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike, rec.bicycles.soc, rec.backcountry, sci.environment, ca.environment

The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans support a
"president" who (1) was not legitimately elected, (2) violates binding treaties,
(3) puts the profits of corporations above the protection of our health and our
environment, (4) waged war without the Congressional declaration of war required
by our Constitution, (5) killed approximately 40 times as many innocent people
as Osama Bin Laden, (6) has no respect for the United Nations, and (7) is almost
universally hated around the world. And we are expected to be PROUD to be an
American? Not at the moment.

Michael J. Vandeman

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humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Oh [censored] now I have to support bush, thanks a lot mikey.

Nah you don't Chris. He *really* supported Nader...I thought you were
in Canada anyway?

Shawn

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The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans support a
"president" who

(1) was not legitimately elected,

Jesus [censored] Christ! Get over it already. Gore lost fair and square.

(2) violates binding treaties,

Big deal, other countries that pollute even more are not even covered. And
the treaties drive jobs away.

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Michael J. Vandeman

You're an idiot.

Stand up and be proud to be an American, or shut up and let people think you
are proud. When you sit here and denegrate your President in a worldwide
forum, all you do is give aid and comfort to the enemy. The enemy is brutal
and ruthless, and they would just as soon chop your head off as listen to
your bleeding heart liberalism that gives them comfort. Tell them they are
brutal, ruthless fanatics that has done nothing worth mentioning, or shut
the [censored] up and let somebody else tell them without you contradicting them.

I am proud to be an American, but you are a shameful crybaby. Shut up, you
make the rest of us look bad.

Jeff Strickland said:

(2) violates binding treaties,

Big deal, other countries that pollute even more are not even covered. And
the treaties drive jobs away.

What does pollution have to do with the Anti Ballistic Missile Treaty?
Jobs and ABM?

Shawn

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Look at the positive side. I read somewhere that George W. is a mountain
biker...

Well, I must admit that the thought of having Mrs. Ketchup as the First Lady
scared the hell out'a me. I woke up this morning, waited about four hours,
and was finally relieved to learn that it wasn't meant to be.

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The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans support a
"president" who (1) was not legitimately elected, (2) violates binding

treaties,

Quoted message said:

(3) puts the profits of corporations above the protection of our health

and our

Quoted message said:

environment, (4) waged war without the Congressional declaration of war

required

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by our Constitution, (5) killed approximately 40 times as many innocent

people

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as Osama Bin Laden, (6) has no respect for the United Nations, and (7) is

almost

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universally hated around the world. And we are expected to be PROUD to be

an

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American? Not at the moment.

Michael J. Vandeman

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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

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(7) is almost universally hated around the world.

We don't like the monkey man over here. Particularly vexing is his
abreviation of "terrorism" to "turr".

Andy Chequer

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Well, I must admit that the thought of having Mrs. Ketchup as the First

Lady

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scared the hell out'a me. I woke up this morning, waited about four

hours,

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and was finally relieved to learn that it wasn't meant to be.

I had more respect for Ms Kerry than her husband. Teresa will tell it like
she sees it. No one speaks for her.

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(7) is almost universally hated around the world.

We don't like the monkey man over here. Particularly vexing is his
abreviation of "terrorism" to "turr".

Andy Chequer

The President may mispronounce a word, but he does not mispronounce his
intent.

must be you are confused about the way you want things, and the way
they really are. i see you also suffer from selective hearing.

Nantahala Jake

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:17:09 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans support a
"president" who (1) was not legitimately elected, (2) violates binding treaties,
(3) puts the profits of corporations above the protection of our health and our
environment, (4) waged war without the Congressional declaration of war required
by our Constitution, (5) killed approximately 40 times as many innocent people
as Osama Bin Laden, (6) has no respect for the United Nations, and (7) is almost
universally hated around the world. And we are expected to be PROUD to be an
American? Not at the moment.

Michael J. Vandeman

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande