Confused on total calories

You can get many answers to this. My opinion is that one should eat just
enough to stop hunger. This works well if one plans to have many tiny meals
instead of 3 large meals per day.

Ideally, low carb is a way of life. Switching back and forth leads to
problems. These problems include yo-yo-ing weight, carb cravings, and some
folks feel bad for a week each time they switch into or out of carbs.

"Tom Schlueter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'm considering returning to low-carb after the Thanksgiving Holiday
and one thing that always confuses me is exactly how many calories to
eat. I understand much depends on activity level, but could someone
point me to some general guidelines based on current weight? Thanks.

Tom

EAT LESS ---EXERCISE MORE

Tom Schlueter said:

I'm considering returning to low-carb after the Thanksgiving Holiday
and one thing that always confuses me is exactly how many calories to
eat. I understand much depends on activity level, but could someone
point me to some general guidelines based on current weight? Thanks.

Tom

LOw carb, at least aATkins low carb, is supposed to be a different way
of eating that works without counting calories.

You are supposed to eat till you are SATISFIED.... NOT STUFFED or SATIATED.

If you EAT TOO MUCH, YOU GET FAT!

If you would like to secretly run a little calorie counting thingie,
take your weight in pounds and multiply it by about 10 and that is an
estimate of the calories you can eat in a day.

And, some people do really count both CALORIES and CARBS and feel quite
good about it.

EAT LESS ---EXERCISE MORE

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Tom Schlueter said:

I'm considering returning to low-carb after the Thanksgiving Holiday
and one thing that always confuses me is exactly how many calories to
eat. I understand much depends on activity level, but could someone
point me to some general guidelines based on current weight? Thanks.

Hi Tom,
The general suggested starting point is 10x to 12x current body weight. If
you don't lose on that you can go lower but you shouldn't go any lower than
8x or you risk lowering your metabolism which will make it even more
difficult to lose. It's much better to increase exercise rather than
decrease calories.
--
Jeri
"Change is inevitable, except from vending machines."

"Tom Schlueter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'm considering returning to low-carb after the Thanksgiving Holiday
and one thing that always confuses me is exactly how many calories to
eat. I understand much depends on activity level, but could someone
point me to some general guidelines based on current weight? Thanks.

Tom

Sounds like you never read the book, and perhaps is why you failed before,
and are waiting 2 weeks to start again? Buy the Atkins book..... start now,
and for the rest of your life.

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Do you know what the suggested calories/body weight is to maintain? I'm
moving into maintenance and can only consume about 1700 calories/day in 5
meals without feeling stuffed. I weigh 110 pounds and the scale hasn't
moved in over a month, but I'm still losing inches.

Jeri said:

The general suggested starting point is 10x to 12x current body weight. If
you don't lose on that you can go lower but you shouldn't go any lower than
8x or you risk lowering your metabolism which will make it even more
difficult to lose. It's much better to increase exercise rather than
decrease calories.

-----
Bev

Hi.

Bev-Ann said:

Do you know what the suggested calories/body weight is to maintain? I'm
moving into maintenance and can only consume about 1700 calories/day in 5
meals without feeling stuffed. I weigh 110 pounds and the scale hasn't
moved in over a month, but I'm still losing inches.

your last statement is just befuddling to me as I am in the same
situation. I just cannot understand...not complaining as the inches
are finally coming off the waist!
I am using the ketostix as the 'measuring stick' and I feel that, if I
am maintaining the weight and, at the same time, coloring the stix
even a littlle, then I must be on the edge -- right where I should be.
I also do not always feel like eating as I am full. I think it is the
water...I have put together this little spread sheet as it reminds me
of how much liquid I am carrying around(temporarily):
Water weighs 8.33 pounds per gallon
" 4.165 pound per half gallon
" 2.0825 pounds per pint
" 1.04125 pounds per 16 ounces
" 0.520625 pounds per 8 ounces

so, the 64 ounces daily weigh in at 4.165 pounds
which is a lot and does not include other liquids.....

I think if you are maintaining weight you may want to mess around with
low calorie vegetables and see what happens...

IMHO.
Joe

Quoted message said:

Jeri said:

The general suggested starting point is 10x to 12x current body weight. If
you don't lose on that you can go lower but you shouldn't go any lower than
8x or you risk lowering your metabolism which will make it even more
difficult to lose. It's much better to increase exercise rather than
decrease calories.

-----
Bev

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If those are U.S. measurements a pint is 16 ounces.

In news:[email hidden],
Papa Joe <[email hidden]> stated
| Hi.
|
| your last statement is just befuddling to me as I am in the same
| situation. I just cannot understand...not complaining as the inches
| are finally coming off the waist!
| I am using the ketostix as the 'measuring stick' and I feel that, if I
| am maintaining the weight and, at the same time, coloring the stix
| even a littlle, then I must be on the edge -- right where I should be.
| I also do not always feel like eating as I am full. I think it is the
| water...I have put together this little spread sheet as it reminds me
| of how much liquid I am carrying around(temporarily):
| Water weighs 8.33 pounds per gallon
| " 4.165 pound per half gallon
| " 2.0825 pounds per pint
| " 1.04125 pounds per 16 ounces
| " 0.520625 pounds per 8 ounces
|
| so, the 64 ounces daily weigh in at 4.165 pounds
| which is a lot and does not include other liquids.....
|
| I think if you are maintaining weight you may want to mess around with
| low calorie vegetables and see what happens...
|
| IMHO.
| Joe
|
|
||
|| on Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:09:55 GMT, "Jeri" <[email hidden]>
|| wrote:
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||| The general suggested starting point is 10x to 12x current body
||| weight. If you don't lose on that you can go lower but you
||| shouldn't go any lower than 8x or you risk lowering your metabolism
||| which will make it even more difficult to lose. It's much better to
||| increase exercise rather than decrease calories.
||
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Oops! Thanks.

Corrected

Water weighs 8.33 pounds per gallon
4.165 pound per half gallon
2.0825 pounds per 32 Ounces(quart)
1.04125 pounds per 16 ounces(pint)
0.520625 pounds per 8 ounces

so, the 64 ounces daily weigh in at 4.165 pounds
which is a lot and does not include other liquids..

Apologies for the error. 'Stupid to a new low level", I
guess.....before it is said!!

Joe

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 04:39:26 GMT, "FOB" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

If those are U.S. measurements a pint is 16 ounces.

In news:[email hidden],
Papa Joe <[email hidden]> stated
| Hi.
|
| your last statement is just befuddling to me as I am in the same
| situation. I just cannot understand...not complaining as the inches
| are finally coming off the waist!
| I am using the ketostix as the 'measuring stick' and I feel that, if I
| am maintaining the weight and, at the same time, coloring the stix
| even a littlle, then I must be on the edge -- right where I should be.
| I also do not always feel like eating as I am full. I think it is the
| water...I have put together this little spread sheet as it reminds me
| of how much liquid I am carrying around(temporarily):
| Water weighs 8.33 pounds per gallon
| " 4.165 pound per half gallon
| " 2.0825 pounds per pint
| " 1.04125 pounds per 16 ounces
| " 0.520625 pounds per 8 ounces
|
| so, the 64 ounces daily weigh in at 4.165 pounds
| which is a lot and does not include other liquids.....
|
| I think if you are maintaining weight you may want to mess around with
| low calorie vegetables and see what happens...
|
| IMHO.
| Joe
|
|
||
|| on Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:09:55 GMT, "Jeri" <[email hidden]>
|| wrote:
||
||| The general suggested starting point is 10x to 12x current body
||| weight. If you don't lose on that you can go lower but you
||| shouldn't go any lower than 8x or you risk lowering your metabolism
||| which will make it even more difficult to lose. It's much better to
||| increase exercise rather than decrease calories.
||
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|| Bev
|
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Tom Schlueter said:

I'm considering returning to low-carb after the Thanksgiving Holiday
and one thing that always confuses me is exactly how many calories to
eat. I understand much depends on activity level, but could someone
point me to some general guidelines based on current weight? Thanks.

Hi Tom,

If you're quite heavy and you're planning to do an Induction, you don't need to
count your calories in the first 2 weeks. After that you probably should.

I'd been using this online calculator to calculate my BMR. For the activity
level I choose "Aerobic Exerciser" because mostly I swim 5 times a week, an hour
each time, plus I do about 3 to 4 hours of Tai Chi each week, I also try to do
90+ minutes fast walk on Saturday. Anyway, back to the point - supposedly you
can choose "Aerobic Exerciser" if you exercise an hour 5+ times a week. I find
it quite accurate for me - it says that I burn around 2400 calories a day on
average and I find that if I don't eat any less than that I don't lose weight.

http://www.room42.com/nutrition/basal.shtml

BTW are you doing any exercise?

Have fun.

Ada

I drink more than enough fluid (and pee at least every hour and a half) but
I keep a spreadsheet of sodium intake versus weight the next day. I can
bounce up 1.5 pounds when the previous day was higher in sodium than
2500mg. Daily sodium under 2000mg brings me back down to a steady 110
pounds.
I don't understand your statement below...I don't want to lose any more
weight or inches. Almost all my daily carbs are from vegetables. I had to
add LC cookies and muffins to get my calories up, but it's still not quite
enough to stop me from losing. And the ketostix have shown negative for a
couple of months now.

Papa Joe said:

I think if you are maintaining weight you may want to mess around with
low calorie vegetables and see what happens...

-----
Bev

Ada Ma wrote:
:: Tom Schlueter wrote:
::: I'm considering returning to low-carb after the Thanksgiving Holiday
::: and one thing that always confuses me is exactly how many calories
::: to eat. I understand much depends on activity level, but could
::: someone point me to some general guidelines based on current
::: weight? Thanks.
:::
::
::
:: Hi Tom,
::
:: If you're quite heavy and you're planning to do an Induction, you
:: don't need to count your calories in the first 2 weeks. After that
:: you probably should.

Actually, if he's quite heavy then more than likely he can hold off on
counting calories for quite a while. Once he has dropped a significant
amount of weight, he'll likely find that counting calories will help.

::
:: I'd been using this online calculator to calculate my BMR. For the
:: activity level I choose "Aerobic Exerciser" because mostly I swim 5
:: times a week, an hour each time, plus I do about 3 to 4 hours of Tai
:: Chi each week, I also try to do 90+ minutes fast walk on Saturday.
:: Anyway, back to the point - supposedly you can choose "Aerobic
:: Exerciser" if you exercise an hour 5+ times a week. I find it quite
:: accurate for me - it says that I burn around 2400 calories a day on
:: average and I find that if I don't eat any less than that I don't
:: lose weight.
::
:: http://www.room42.com/nutrition/basal.shtml
::
:: BTW are you doing any exercise?
::
:: Have fun.
::
:: Ada

Roger Zoul said:

Ada Ma wrote:
:: Tom Schlueter wrote:
::: I'm considering returning to low-carb after the Thanksgiving Holiday
::: and one thing that always confuses me is exactly how many calories
::: to eat. I understand much depends on activity level, but could
::: someone point me to some general guidelines based on current
::: weight? Thanks.
:::
::
::
:: Hi Tom,
::
:: If you're quite heavy and you're planning to do an Induction, you
:: don't need to count your calories in the first 2 weeks. After that
:: you probably should.

Actually, if he's quite heavy then more than likely he can hold off on
counting calories for quite a while. Once he has dropped a significant
amount of weight, he'll likely find that counting calories will help.

Agree. I think though, that the earlier one learns to count calories the
better. Although some people might be put off by it and never bother to start
low carbing in the first place, which make things worse.

Ada Ma wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::
::: Ada Ma wrote:
::::: Tom Schlueter wrote:
:::::: I'm considering returning to low-carb after the Thanksgiving
:::::: Holiday and one thing that always confuses me is exactly how
:::::: many calories to eat. I understand much depends on activity
:::::: level, but could someone point me to some general guidelines
:::::: based on current weight? Thanks.
::::::
:::::
:::::
::::: Hi Tom,
:::::
::::: If you're quite heavy and you're planning to do an Induction, you
::::: don't need to count your calories in the first 2 weeks. After
::::: that you probably should.
:::
::: Actually, if he's quite heavy then more than likely he can hold off
::: on counting calories for quite a while. Once he has dropped a
::: significant amount of weight, he'll likely find that counting
::: calories will help.
::
:: Agree. I think though, that the earlier one learns to count
:: calories the better. Although some people might be put off by it
:: and never bother to start low carbing in the first place, which make
:: things worse.

Personally, I say go as far as you can without counting, unless you're the
type of person who enjoys that kind of thing. A lot of us geeky types think
that tracking stuff is fun, but others find it a bother. In either case, it
will eventually get old, but it does have benefits. For example, after
you've been counting a while you sort of know how much to eat even without
counting, which can be useful if you're out and about or visiting and you
can't count.

Ada Ma said:

I think though, that the earlier one learns to count calories
the better.

Except you're NOT supposed to count calories in Induction. Induction
is not about weight loss, it's about adaptation. In OWL you can start
counting calories if you need to (i.e. if "eat only to satisfy"
doesn't result in weight loss).

Bev
I did not know your calories were mainly from veggies already--that is
why I suggested the vegetables to be added.

The sodium thing is real especially if the daily water intake is on
target. Hour and a half--same here.

Interesting about the stix---negative but still staying at the same
weight. Must mean that you are on target with the carbs but not enough
calories. Are you staying away from meats intentionally?
Have you tried fruits? Apple, Strawberries, etc.?

Do you do milk at all? The low carb/non fat Hood stuff is 3 grams
carbs per 8 ounce glass. I have aquired a taste for it with the low
carb cereal(Post Cinammon, Special K and Wheat bran, along with ground
flax seed) and with or without sliced strawberries. It, along with the
cereal, provides some calories, a little fat and about 13 carbs per
bowl.

As soon as I finish the current carton, I am moving to regular low
fat milk(11 grams of carbs) just to lessen the number of different
cartons in the 'fridge)--I can deal with the added carbs.

I have also found shelled/salted pistachio nuts(net 5 g carbs per 1/4
cup) and unsalted walnut halves(net zero carbs) to help.

I have more data from what I have done. If you think it can help I
will share.

Joe

Bev-Ann said:

I drink more than enough fluid (and pee at least every hour and a half) but
I keep a spreadsheet of sodium intake versus weight the next day. I can
bounce up 1.5 pounds when the previous day was higher in sodium than
2500mg. Daily sodium under 2000mg brings me back down to a steady 110
pounds.
I don't understand your statement below...I don't want to lose any more
weight or inches. Almost all my daily carbs are from vegetables. I had to
add LC cookies and muffins to get my calories up, but it's still not quite
enough to stop me from losing. And the ketostix have shown negative for a
couple of months now.

Papa Joe said:

I think if you are maintaining weight you may want to mess around with
low calorie vegetables and see what happens...

-----
Bev

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Bev-Ann said:

I drink more than enough fluid (and pee at least every hour and a half) but
I keep a spreadsheet of sodium intake versus weight the next day. I can
bounce up 1.5 pounds when the previous day was higher in sodium than
2500mg. Daily sodium under 2000mg brings me back down to a steady 110
pounds.
I don't understand your statement below...I don't want to lose any more
weight or inches. Almost all my daily carbs are from vegetables. I had to
add LC cookies and muffins to get my calories up, but it's still not quite
enough to stop me from losing. And the ketostix have shown negative for a
couple of months now.

Papa Joe said:

I think if you are maintaining weight you may want to mess around with
low calorie vegetables and see what happens...

-----
Bev

If you really need a lot more calories but just can't force down more
food (a good thing really) you could try to add more Olive oil and
flaxseed oil. You can hide them in sauces, gravies, salad dressing,
protein drinks.

You could also just eat what feels right and let your body shape
itself accordingly. Then through your exercise program you can sculpt
the body you have. At some point your body will stop losing. At that
point (in my opinion) you would be a much happier camper if you had
not gotten into the habit of force feeding yourself calories beyond
what it appears your body wants or needs. That's just my opinion and
worth every penny you didn't pay for it. 🙂
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CHAT http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html
Low-Carb Connoisseur http://www.low-carb.com

[email hidden] (Tom Schlueter) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

I'm considering returning to low-carb after the Thanksgiving Holiday
and one thing that always confuses me is exactly how many calories to
eat. I understand much depends on activity level, but could someone
point me to some general guidelines based on current weight? Thanks.

Tom

Don't bother with calories. Count the carbs. If you want to carefully
quantify what you eat, follow The Zone system of counting carbs, fats
and proteins.

Calories just confuses the issue. It is entirely unnecessary to count
calories.

TC

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Quoted message said:

You can get many answers to this. My opinion is that one should eat just
enough to stop hunger. This works well if one plans to have many tiny

meals

Quoted message said:

instead of 3 large meals per day.

Ideally, low carb is a way of life. Switching back and forth leads to
problems. These problems include yo-yo-ing weight, carb cravings, and

some

Quoted message said:

folks feel bad for a week each time they switch into or out of carbs.

Yes. This sounds quite a bit like the way I do it. Eat enough to be
satisfied, but not full. This may sound difficult to do at first, but feels
natural after a while. It's far better than chart based values since
everybody's metabolism and activity level are different. Being a little
hungry is ok, but starving will make you binge.
Tom
210/180/180

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"Tom Schlueter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'm considering returning to low-carb after the Thanksgiving Holiday
and one thing that always confuses me is exactly how many calories to
eat. I understand much depends on activity level, but could someone
point me to some general guidelines based on current weight? Thanks.

Tom

Ignoramus5468 wrote:
:: On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 16:11:38 GMT, Tom <[email hidden]> wrote:
:::
::: "Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
::: news:[email hidden]...
:::: You can get many answers to this. My opinion is that one should
:::: eat just enough to stop hunger. This works well if one plans to
:::: have many tiny meals instead of 3 large meals per day.
::::
:::: Ideally, low carb is a way of life. Switching back and forth
:::: leads to problems. These problems include yo-yo-ing weight, carb
:::: cravings, and some folks feel bad for a week each time they switch
:::: into or out of carbs.
:::
::: Yes. This sounds quite a bit like the way I do it. Eat enough
::: to be satisfied, but not full. This may sound difficult to do at
::: first, but feels natural after a while. It's far better than chart
::: based values since everybody's metabolism and activity level are
::: different. Being a little hungry is ok, but starving will make you
::: binge.
::
:: Maybe I have different metabolism than two of you guys, but lately, I
:: have been eating "hearty meals", "to my heart's content". That means
:: I stop eating when I no longer want to eat, when food is no longer
:: appealing. I eat literally as much as I want. I no longer have to
:: "tell myself to stop". I am not gaining on this regimen. (weight
:: loss is not my goal).

Obviously, your food becomes unappealing long before your belly is busting
at the seams. I don't think everyone is wired that way.

::
:: Of course, I have not been "cured of tendency to put on weight" or
:: anything like that, but as long as I stick to low carb foods,
:: quantity is not a problem and I do not gain. That's the whole reason
:: why I am low carbing, to not be hungry like I was on "potion
:: control".
::
:: --
:: 223/172.8/180