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  1. I am 5'8 started LC at 210 and I am now 176. I am 59 years old male. I
    have not run in maybe 35 years or so. I guess partly because of
    smoking. I have quit smoking 11 months ago and feel great. Breathing
    is excellent.

    I tried jogging for the first time the other night and I don't know
    how to explain the feeling. I feel like the Jolly Green Giant. With
    every step hitting the concrete I feel like I will break the street. I
    feel a pounding in my body with every step. Is that normal or a
    feeling that I will have to get used to?

    Mel

  2. [email hidden] wrote:
    :: I am 5'8 started LC at 210 and I am now 176. I am 59 years old male.
    :: I have not run in maybe 35 years or so. I guess partly because of
    :: smoking. I have quit smoking 11 months ago and feel great. Breathing
    :: is excellent.
    ::
    :: I tried jogging for the first time the other night and I don't know
    :: how to explain the feeling. I feel like the Jolly Green Giant. With
    :: every step hitting the concrete I feel like I will break the street.
    :: I feel a pounding in my body with every step. Is that normal or a
    :: feeling that I will have to get used to?
    ::
    :: Mel

    Running may not be the best exercise for someone who has been overweight, a
    smoker, and inactive (perhaps). Your feet and other joints may not be happy
    with you. Running is a high impact activity.

    Why don't you do something else? Treadmill, stationary bike, road bike,
    swimming, etc.

  3. Roger Zoul said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    :: I am 5'8 started LC at 210 and I am now 176. I am 59 years old male.
    :: I have not run in maybe 35 years or so. I guess partly because of
    :: smoking. I have quit smoking 11 months ago and feel great. Breathing
    :: is excellent.
    ::
    :: I tried jogging for the first time the other night and I don't know
    :: how to explain the feeling. I feel like the Jolly Green Giant. With
    :: every step hitting the concrete I feel like I will break the street.
    :: I feel a pounding in my body with every step. Is that normal or a
    :: feeling that I will have to get used to?
    ::
    :: Mel

    Running may not be the best exercise for someone who has been overweight, a
    smoker, and inactive (perhaps). Your feet and other joints may not be happy
    with you. Running is a high impact activity.

    Why don't you do something else? Treadmill, stationary bike, road bike,
    swimming, etc.

    biking is very heavy on the knees as well. i'd recommend the OP to do some
    brisk walking and swimming to kick start. if the OP can't swim, he can always
    start with just lying flat on his back on the water and kick his thighs.

  4. Quoted message said:

    I am 5'8 started LC at 210 and I am now 176. I am 59 years old male. I
    have not run in maybe 35 years or so. I guess partly because of
    smoking. I have quit smoking 11 months ago and feel great. Breathing
    is excellent.

    I tried jogging for the first time the other night and I don't know
    how to explain the feeling. I feel like the Jolly Green Giant. With
    every step hitting the concrete I feel like I will break the street. I
    feel a pounding in my body with every step. Is that normal or a
    feeling that I will have to get used to?

    Mel

    I don't know if it's normal - and I don't know if you'll ever get used
    to it, but I decided a long time ago that jogging on the street is
    probably something I will never enjoy doing. I jog in the pool
    instead. No stress on the knees, and I could keep going for hours. One
    is usually enough though...LOL

    Lybbe
    Highest Weight - 308
    Started Bernstein Diet October 2, 2004 - 243.0
    Today's weight - 219.0
    Goal - 150

  5. Ada Ma wrote:
    :: Roger Zoul wrote:
    ::
    ::: [email hidden] wrote:
    ::::: I am 5'8 started LC at 210 and I am now 176. I am 59 years old
    ::::: male. I have not run in maybe 35 years or so. I guess partly
    ::::: because of smoking. I have quit smoking 11 months ago and feel
    ::::: great. Breathing is excellent.
    :::::
    ::::: I tried jogging for the first time the other night and I don't
    ::::: know how to explain the feeling. I feel like the Jolly Green
    ::::: Giant. With every step hitting the concrete I feel like I will
    ::::: break the street. I feel a pounding in my body with every step.
    ::::: Is that normal or a feeling that I will have to get used to?
    :::::
    ::::: Mel
    :::
    ::: Running may not be the best exercise for someone who has been
    ::: overweight, a smoker, and inactive (perhaps). Your feet and other
    ::: joints may not be happy with you. Running is a high impact
    ::: activity.
    :::
    ::: Why don't you do something else? Treadmill, stationary bike, road
    ::: bike, swimming, etc.
    :::
    :::
    ::
    :: biking is very heavy on the knees as well. i'd recommend the OP to
    :: do some brisk walking and swimming to kick start. if the OP can't
    :: swim, he can always start with just lying flat on his back on the
    :: water and kick his thighs.

    biking is not heavy on the knees if one rides a properly adjusted bike, be
    it road or stationary. I had knee problems for years and riding a stationary
    bike only made things better. On a stationary, it is merely a matter of seat
    adjustment.

  6. Because of my arthritis type, I *can't* run. It's against the rules
    in general. My wife has similar problems. The ONLY machine we can
    use regularly is a cross trainer (i.e. elliptical trainer with moving
    handlebars). It's basically a zero-impact jogging machine. *That* I
    can stay on for as long as my stamina holds our (or until the TV show
    is over 😉

    The other option is to replace cardio with low-weight strength
    training. A lightly loaded leg press machine can provide similar
    results (until the line for the machine gets too long ;-)

  7. it's usually due to not knowing HOW to run in your existing body.

    this book has helped many people find their way into/back to running.

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/074325144X/qid=1100102093/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl14/102-9629011-5384933?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

    highly recommended.

    peace,
    pen

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    Quoted message said:

    I am 5'8 started LC at 210 and I am now 176. I am 59 years old male. I
    have not run in maybe 35 years or so. I guess partly because of
    smoking. I have quit smoking 11 months ago and feel great. Breathing
    is excellent.

    I tried jogging for the first time the other night and I don't know
    how to explain the feeling. I feel like the Jolly Green Giant. With
    every step hitting the concrete I feel like I will break the street. I
    feel a pounding in my body with every step. Is that normal or a
    feeling that I will have to get used to?

    Mel

  8. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am 5'8 started LC at 210 and I am now 176. I am 59 years old male. I
    have not run in maybe 35 years or so. I guess partly because of
    smoking. I have quit smoking 11 months ago and feel great. Breathing
    is excellent.

    I tried jogging for the first time the other night and I don't know
    how to explain the feeling. I feel like the Jolly Green Giant. With
    every step hitting the concrete I feel like I will break the street. I
    feel a pounding in my body with every step. Is that normal or a
    feeling that I will have to get used to?

    Mel

    Running on concrete is hard on you. If possible, try running on grass. At
    the very least, get quality running shoes with thick soles and lots of
    spring. Better yet, don't run at all. Swim or bike.

  9. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ada Ma wrote:
    :: Roger Zoul wrote:
    ::
    ::: [email hidden] wrote:
    ::::: I am 5'8 started LC at 210 and I am now 176. I am 59 years old
    ::::: male. I have not run in maybe 35 years or so. I guess partly
    ::::: because of smoking. I have quit smoking 11 months ago and feel
    ::::: great. Breathing is excellent.
    :::::
    ::::: I tried jogging for the first time the other night and I don't
    ::::: know how to explain the feeling. I feel like the Jolly Green
    ::::: Giant. With every step hitting the concrete I feel like I will
    ::::: break the street. I feel a pounding in my body with every step.
    ::::: Is that normal or a feeling that I will have to get used to?
    :::::
    ::::: Mel
    :::
    ::: Running may not be the best exercise for someone who has been
    ::: overweight, a smoker, and inactive (perhaps). Your feet and other
    ::: joints may not be happy with you. Running is a high impact
    ::: activity.
    :::
    ::: Why don't you do something else? Treadmill, stationary bike, road
    ::: bike, swimming, etc.
    :::
    :::
    ::
    :: biking is very heavy on the knees as well. i'd recommend the OP to
    :: do some brisk walking and swimming to kick start. if the OP can't
    :: swim, he can always start with just lying flat on his back on the
    :: water and kick his thighs.

    biking is not heavy on the knees if one rides a properly adjusted bike, be
    it road or stationary. I had knee problems for years and riding a


    stationary

    Quoted message said:

    bike only made things better. On a stationary, it is merely a matter of


    seat

    Quoted message said:

    adjustment.

    Could you tell me what is usually the problem with the seat? Is it because
    it's set too low? I was saying what I said because I used to know someone
    who cycled between where he lived and college a couple of times a day - a
    bit like 1.5 miles each way. I think one or two months after he started
    cycling, he complained about having got his knees injured because of the
    cycling. I don't know whether it's because the return trip is one hell of a
    upward slope and cyclists tend to stand on their peddles (I know I do, I
    used to cycle around in town all the time and took pride in being able to do
    so - I couldn't help feeling ultra swell after having done a stretch of
    slope that I didn't manage to do before). Could it be the reason why??

  10. Ada Ma wrote:
    || "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    || news:[email hidden]...
    ||| Ada Ma wrote:
    ||||| Roger Zoul wrote:
    |||||
    |||||| [email hidden] wrote:
    |||||||| I am 5'8 started LC at 210 and I am now 176. I am 59 years old
    |||||||| male. I have not run in maybe 35 years or so. I guess partly
    |||||||| because of smoking. I have quit smoking 11 months ago and feel
    |||||||| great. Breathing is excellent.
    ||||||||
    |||||||| I tried jogging for the first time the other night and I don't
    |||||||| know how to explain the feeling. I feel like the Jolly Green
    |||||||| Giant. With every step hitting the concrete I feel like I will
    |||||||| break the street. I feel a pounding in my body with every step.
    |||||||| Is that normal or a feeling that I will have to get used to?
    ||||||||
    |||||||| Mel
    ||||||
    |||||| Running may not be the best exercise for someone who has been
    |||||| overweight, a smoker, and inactive (perhaps). Your feet and
    |||||| other joints may not be happy with you. Running is a high impact
    |||||| activity.
    ||||||
    |||||| Why don't you do something else? Treadmill, stationary bike,
    |||||| road bike, swimming, etc.
    ||||||
    ||||||
    |||||
    ||||| biking is very heavy on the knees as well. i'd recommend the OP
    ||||| to
    ||||| do some brisk walking and swimming to kick start. if the OP can't
    ||||| swim, he can always start with just lying flat on his back on the
    ||||| water and kick his thighs.
    |||
    ||| biking is not heavy on the knees if one rides a properly adjusted
    ||| bike, be it road or stationary. I had knee problems for years and
    ||| riding a stationary bike only made things better. On a stationary,
    ||| it is merely a matter of seat adjustment.
    |||
    ||
    || Could you tell me what is usually the problem with the seat? Is it
    || because it's set too low? I was saying what I said because I used
    || to know someone who cycled between where he lived and college a
    || couple of times a day - a bit like 1.5 miles each way. I think one
    || or two months after he started cycling, he complained about having
    || got his knees injured because of the cycling. I don't know whether
    || it's because the return trip is one hell of a upward slope and
    || cyclists tend to stand on their peddles (I know I do, I used to
    || cycle around in town all the time and took pride in being able to do
    || so - I couldn't help feeling ultra swell after having done a stretch
    || of slope that I didn't manage to do before). Could it be the reason
    || why??

    Very definitely that could be the reason. Either too low or too high. And
    other issues could play a factor, such as being ill-fitted to the bike and
    riding in too high a gear (long hills with insufficent low gears could be a
    problem). This issue is one reason why it is usually best not to buy cheap
    bikes from *mart stores and such. Best to go to a real bike shop where
    people know about these things. So many people consider bikes to be mere
    toys -- and I see a lot of people finding around on ill-fitted bikes.

  11. Ada Ma said:

    biking is very heavy on the knees as well.

    Nope, it isn't.

    It is common practice nowadays to awake from knee reconstruction surgery
    to find your affected leg strapped into a bike style device so that you
    can exercise and retain mobility *without* injury to the knee.

    I have had major knee work - bone grafts, ligaments replaced, cartilage
    repaired etc., and they had me using a stationary (reclining) bike the
    same afternoon that I had surgery. It was my major form of physiotherapy
    for several weeks after the surgery.

    It comes back to doing it properly. You have to adjust the saddle height
    so that the fulcrum effect varies within an acceptable, non-injurious
    range, also you have to start with a very low load. If the saddle is too
    high, all effort is nearly straight down, if it is too low, you are
    putting excessive pressure (leverage) on the knee. The distance between
    the saddle position and the crank is also important, so it is vital to
    have a bike that is designed for your height/leg length. Using a bike
    designed for a shorter/taller person and adjusting the saddle height
    will not compensate for the difference in size.

    If you get a bike that is the correct size, begin to train slowly, and
    don't overdo things, riding can be a very effective, safe and enjoyable
    form of exercise.

    One thing that I have often noticed with new riders is that they join a
    group of more experienced riders and try to keep up. This is *not* a
    good thing, you will injure yourself and turn a pleasurable form of
    exercise into a form of torture.

    Regards

    David

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    All other mail is automatically deleted.

  12. Roger Zoul said:


    Very definitely that could be the reason. Either too low or too high. And
    other issues could play a factor, such as being ill-fitted to the bike and
    riding in too high a gear (long hills with insufficent low gears could be a
    problem). This issue is one reason why it is usually best not to buy cheap
    bikes from *mart stores and such. Best to go to a real bike shop where
    people know about these things. So many people consider bikes to be mere
    toys -- and I see a lot of people finding around on ill-fitted bikes.

    Thanks!

  13. Hi David,

    Thanks for the very detailed explanation and for sharing your experience.

    Cheers,
    Ada

    J. David Anderson said:
    Ada Ma said:

    biking is very heavy on the knees as well.

    Nope, it isn't.

    It is common practice nowadays to awake from knee reconstruction surgery
    to find your affected leg strapped into a bike style device so that you
    can exercise and retain mobility *without* injury to the knee.

    I have had major knee work - bone grafts, ligaments replaced, cartilage
    repaired etc., and they had me using a stationary (reclining) bike the
    same afternoon that I had surgery. It was my major form of physiotherapy
    for several weeks after the surgery.

    It comes back to doing it properly. You have to adjust the saddle height
    so that the fulcrum effect varies within an acceptable, non-injurious
    range, also you have to start with a very low load. If the saddle is too
    high, all effort is nearly straight down, if it is too low, you are
    putting excessive pressure (leverage) on the knee. The distance between
    the saddle position and the crank is also important, so it is vital to
    have a bike that is designed for your height/leg length. Using a bike
    designed for a shorter/taller person and adjusting the saddle height
    will not compensate for the difference in size.

    If you get a bike that is the correct size, begin to train slowly, and
    don't overdo things, riding can be a very effective, safe and enjoyable
    form of exercise.

    One thing that I have often noticed with new riders is that they join a
    group of more experienced riders and try to keep up. This is *not* a
    good thing, you will injure yourself and turn a pleasurable form of
    exercise into a form of torture.

    Regards

    David

  14. Lybbe said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am 5'8 started LC at 210 and I am now 176. I am 59 years old male. I
    have not run in maybe 35 years or so. I guess partly because of
    smoking. I have quit smoking 11 months ago and feel great. Breathing
    is excellent.

    I tried jogging for the first time the other night and I don't know
    how to explain the feeling. I feel like the Jolly Green Giant. With
    every step hitting the concrete I feel like I will break the street. I
    feel a pounding in my body with every step. Is that normal or a
    feeling that I will have to get used to?

    Mel

    I don't know if it's normal - and I don't know if you'll ever get used
    to it, but I decided a long time ago that jogging on the street is
    probably something I will never enjoy doing. I jog in the pool
    instead. No stress on the knees, and I could keep going for hours. One
    is usually enough though...LOL

    I have seen someone doing in "my" pool. He was wearing something around his
    waist. What's that btw? Do you know?

  15. Ada Ma said:
    Lybbe said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am 5'8 started LC at 210 and I am now 176. I am 59 years old male. I
    have not run in maybe 35 years or so. I guess partly because of
    smoking. I have quit smoking 11 months ago and feel great. Breathing
    is excellent.

    I tried jogging for the first time the other night and I don't know
    how to explain the feeling. I feel like the Jolly Green Giant. With
    every step hitting the concrete I feel like I will break the street. I
    feel a pounding in my body with every step. Is that normal or a
    feeling that I will have to get used to?

    Mel

    I don't know if it's normal - and I don't know if you'll ever get used
    to it, but I decided a long time ago that jogging on the street is
    probably something I will never enjoy doing. I jog in the pool
    instead. No stress on the knees, and I could keep going for hours. One
    is usually enough though...LOL

    I have seen someone doing in "my" pool. He was wearing something around his
    waist. What's that btw? Do you know?

    Probably a flotation device to keep him upright in deep water. I
    don't need one because the pool at my gym is one depth from end to
    end. Perfect for jogging.

    Lybbe
    Highest Weight - 308
    Started Bernstein Diet October 2, 2004 - 243.0
    Today's weight - 219.0
    Goal - 150

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