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  1. http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/nation/10103007.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp&1c

    ~~~~~~BEGIN QUOTE~~~~~~
    Study: Fatter travelers weigh on airline profits
    More weight means higher fuel costs, the CDC reported. The added cost in 2000
    was estimated at $275 million.
    By Daniel Yee
    Associated Press

    ATLANTA - America's growing waistlines are hurting the bottom lines of airline
    companies, as the extra pounds on passengers create heftier fuel costs, a new
    government study reveals.

    Through the 1990s, the average weight of Americans increased by 10 pounds,
    according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The extra weight
    caused airlines to spend $275 million to burn 350 million more gallons of fuel
    in 2000 just to carry the additional weight of Americans, the federal agency
    estimated in a recent issue of the American Journal of Preventive Medicine.

    "The obesity epidemic has unexpected consequences beyond direct health effects,"
    said Deron Burton of the CDC. "Our goal was to highlight one area that had not
    been looked at before."

    The extra fuel burned also had an environmental impact, as an estimated 3.8
    million extra tons of carbon dioxide were released into the air, according to
    the study.

    The agency said its calculations were rough estimates, issued to highlight
    previously undocumented consequences of the obesity epidemic.

    The estimates were calculated by determining how much fuel the 10 extra pounds
    of weight per passenger represented in Department of Transportation airline
    statistics, Burton said.

    Obesity was the underlying cause of 400,000 deaths in the United States in 2000,
    a 33 percent jump from 1990. If current trends persist, it will become the
    nation's No. 1 cause of preventable death, the CDC said earlier this year.

    More than half - 56 percent - of U.S. adults were overweight or obese in the
    early 1990s, according to a CDC survey. That rose to 65 percent in a similar
    survey done from 1999 to 2002.

    Although the Air Transport Association of America has not yet validated the CDC
    data, spokesman Jack Evans said the health agency's appraisal "does not sound
    out of the realm of reality."

    With most airlines reporting losses blamed partly on record-high fuel costs,
    airlines are doing everything they can to lighten the load on all aircraft.

    Bulky magazines have gone out the door. Metal forks and spoons have been
    replaced with plastic.

    Large carry-ons are being scrutinized, and heavy materials that used to make up
    airplane seats are being replaced with plastic and other lightweight materials.

    "When you consider airlines are flying millions of miles, it adds up over time,"
    Evans said.

    ~~~~~~END QUOTE~~~~~~

    If you're a lean bike racer, you should leverage your light weight and ask for a
    cheaper ticket. "Forget" to tell them how much your velosafe + bike wieghs.

  2. gwhite said:

    "When you consider airlines are flying millions of miles, it adds up over time,"
    Evans said.

    ~~~~~~END QUOTE~~~~~~

    If you're a lean bike racer, you should leverage your light weight and ask for a
    cheaper ticket. "Forget" to tell them how much your velosafe + bike wieghs.

    You forgot to reference this to the use of the special USAC flight
    deals and Fattie Masters. Kurgan doesn't grade on a curve, you know.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  3. "gwhite" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:



    http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/nation/10103007.htm?template=content
    Modules/printstory.jsp&1c

    I love it. I have always said that airfare should be dependant on actual
    load. There should be a surcharge for extra weight and for people that can't
    keep their arms within the space designated for their chair.

    I have so many nightmare stories about fat ass Americans on intercontinental
    flights, that is the number one concern I have about flying. In my first
    flight without my parents, I was on what I thought was a non-stop to London
    from SFO. This was back in the early 80s when the airlines had not been
    deregulated (ticket prices) for very long and I did not know the
    terminology. I booked a flight for 9:00 am and stayed up all night before
    the flight. I also got a sedative (most MDs will give you something for a
    flight...if you ask) and I figured between that and the long hour without
    sleep I would be able to sleep most of the flight and then stay up another
    long (more than 24 hours) day and hopefully most of the jet lag would be
    behind me fairly quickly. I fell asleep while the plane was in the air and
    did not wake up until I could sense the altitude drop and lining up for the
    final approach. In my mind, between that and the Sun coming up I thought I
    had made it. The seat next to me had been empty the whole flight. The
    problem was that the plane was landing somewhere on the east coast of the US
    (Boston I think). I was unhappy to find out that I would need to fall asleep
    again but the worst part came when a 300 + pound female sat in and around
    her seat next to me. Not only were her arms so huge as to prevent her from
    keeping the arm adjacent to me away from her, but the sounds from breathing
    problems and who knows what else was way too much for me to get any rest at
    all. I landed in London having slept about 2 hours in the past 42 and I
    would not have another chance until another 12 hours later. Ever since then,
    every flight I take reminds me of that and although I never had anything
    quite so bad happen, there were other similar cases. I can't keep these huge
    people from flying next to me, but I can make sure that I don't count on
    using flight time to get my sleep.

  4. Chris wrote:
    I was unhappy to find out that I would need to fall asleep

    Quoted message said:

    again but the worst part came when a 300 + pound female sat in and


    around

    Quoted message said:

    her seat next to me. Not only were her arms so huge as to prevent her


    from

    Quoted message said:

    keeping the arm adjacent to me away from her, but the sounds from


    breathing

    Quoted message said:

    problems and who knows what else was way too much for me to get any


    rest at

    Quoted message said:

    all. I landed in London having slept about 2 hours in the past 42 and


    I

    Quoted message said:

    would not have another chance until another 12 hours later. Ever


    since then,

    Quoted message said:

    every flight I take reminds me of that and although I never had


    anything

    Quoted message said:

    quite so bad happen, there were other similar cases. I can't keep


    these huge

    Quoted message said:

    people from flying next to me, but I can make sure that I don't count


    on

    Quoted message said:

    using flight time to get my sleep.

    Keep your perverted mile high club stories of tapping fat chicks all
    night to yourself.

    RVD

  5. Curtis L. Russell said:
    gwhite said:

    "When you consider airlines are flying millions of miles, it adds up over time,"
    Evans said.

    ~~~~~~END QUOTE~~~~~~

    If you're a lean bike racer, you should leverage your light weight and ask for a
    cheaper ticket. "Forget" to tell them how much your velosafe + bike wieghs.

    You forgot to reference this to the use of the special USAC flight
    deals and Fattie Masters. Kurgan doesn't grade on a curve, you know.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

    It's kind of interesting that we hear about the 'tyranny of the thin'.
    BUt most equipment, etc is usually made for thin,or just regular,
    average sized people. Chairs will be all made the same, etc. Now, we
    hear about special sized chairs, or special hospital equipment that
    has to be made to accommodate obese people. SPecial surgical
    instrument, wheelchairs and gurneys, special surgery tables and beds,
    and they have to hire huge wrestler sized hulks as orderlies and
    nurses simply to get these people out of bed. They also have to use
    more anasthesia for obese people. And so on. They now have to have
    special seats, special desks, special ladders etc- all of which costs
    more money. ANd the obese now cost the health care system even more
    than smoking- since many of the health problems associate with obesity
    are irreversible. It's not the same has having a tall shop or big
    mens' shop; that used to be the exception. NOw it's becoming the norm.

    See how so many of society's problems could simply be solved if people
    would just ride a bike?

  6. Quoted message said:

    (Boston I think). I was unhappy to find out that I would need to fall
    asleep
    again but the worst part came when a 300 + pound female sat in and around
    her seat next to me. Not only were her arms so huge as to prevent her from
    keeping the arm adjacent to me away from her, but the sounds from
    breathing
    problems and who knows what else was way too much for me to get any rest
    at
    all. >

    Yup, been there- 400+ pound guy in aisle, me in middle, hubby in window seat
    (he's not small either, but not really a fattie- just a big guy, so I
    couldn't squeeze into part of his seat.) Anyway, the 400 lb fattie smelled
    bad too. It was so difficult for him to get up (he could barely squeeze
    into the aisle) that I stayed in my seat for the entire 5 hour flight, but I
    didn't have to pee too bad anyway, since I couldn't easily reach my water
    bottle. Dude was spilling over his seat so much, I couldn't move.

    Found out he was going to meet, for the first time, the girl he had met
    online and was supposedly in love with. I felt kind of sorry for him,
    wondering how she was going to react when she saw what he really looked (and
    smelled) like. I hope it worked out okay.

  7. gwhite wrote:

    <stuff about the Enormous Fatties snipped>

    I'm telling ya: The Fattie Epidemic is a greater threat to the security
    of this Empire than Al Qaeda and domestic ignorance combined.

    The disease from within. Like syphilis driving Rome mad.
    K. Gringioni.
    Fat [censored]

  8. "Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I can't keep these huge
    people from flying next to me, but I can make sure that I don't count on
    using flight time to get my sleep.

    dumbass, take a far east airline, like korean airlines. the risk of
    being squeezed by fatties is far less.

  9. Quoted message said:

    From: [email hidden]
    Date: 11/9/2004 10:38 PM Eastern Standard Time

    Quoted message said:

    See how so many of society's problems could simply be solved if people
    would just ride a bike?

    Looks like it's about time for Trek to start up the new Bulletproof Fattie
    Warfighter line. I can see the ads now "Heavy Duty, Extreme Warfighting
    Machine, Be the first in your Nascar fan club to own this speed machine. Straps
    into the bed of your pickup with welded on anchor points. Ride it down to get
    some beer and the newest hunting magazine, or over to the guys football party
    and never have to worry about DUI after those Patriotic Pabst cold ones!"
    Bill C

  10. Amit said:

    "Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I can't keep these huge
    people from flying next to me, but I can make sure that I don't count on
    using flight time to get my sleep.

    Quoted message said:

    dumbass, take a far east airline, like korean airlines. the risk of
    being squeezed by fatties is far less.

    Yeah. You never EVER see Asian types signing their posts with [censored]
    like 'Fat [censored]'.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

  11. Bob Schwartz said:

    Yeah. You never EVER see Asian types signing their posts with [censored]
    like 'Fat [censored]'.

    http://www.chijanofuji.com/gallery.html

  12. On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 23:22:17 -0800, "Suz" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (Boston I think). I was unhappy to find out that I would need to fall
    asleep
    again but the worst part came when a 300 + pound female sat in and around
    her seat next to me. Not only were her arms so huge as to prevent her from
    keeping the arm adjacent to me away from her, but the sounds from
    breathing
    problems and who knows what else was way too much for me to get any rest
    at
    all. >

    Yup, been there- 400+ pound guy in aisle, me in middle, hubby in window seat
    (he's not small either, but not really a fattie- just a big guy, so I
    couldn't squeeze into part of his seat.) Anyway, the 400 lb fattie smelled
    bad too. It was so difficult for him to get up (he could barely squeeze
    into the aisle) that I stayed in my seat for the entire 5 hour flight, but I
    didn't have to pee too bad anyway, since I couldn't easily reach my water
    bottle. Dude was spilling over his seat so much, I couldn't move.

    Found out he was going to meet, for the first time, the girl he had met
    online and was supposedly in love with. I felt kind of sorry for him,
    wondering how she was going to react when she saw what he really looked (and
    smelled) like. I hope it worked out okay.

    Maybe she knows, and is herself probably a big woman. That's where the
    internet is valuable- people who are overweight, let's face it, are
    not going to be the center of attention at a party or a bar. WHere are
    they supposed to meet people? THe internet is perfect in that way.
    You actually get totalk to someone before they see you; lots of fat
    people have met mates that way. Why not?

  13. On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 23:22:17 -0800, "Suz" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (Boston I think). I was unhappy to find out that I would need to fall
    asleep
    again but the worst part came when a 300 + pound female sat in and around
    her seat next to me. Not only were her arms so huge as to prevent her from
    keeping the arm adjacent to me away from her, but the sounds from
    breathing
    problems and who knows what else was way too much for me to get any rest
    at
    all. >

    Yup, been there- 400+ pound guy in aisle, me in middle, hubby in window seat
    (he's not small either, but not really a fattie- just a big guy, so I
    couldn't squeeze into part of his seat.) Anyway, the 400 lb fattie smelled
    bad too. It was so difficult for him to get up (he could barely squeeze
    into the aisle) that I stayed in my seat for the entire 5 hour flight, but I
    didn't have to pee too bad anyway, since I couldn't easily reach my water
    bottle. Dude was spilling over his seat so much, I couldn't move.

    Found out he was going to meet, for the first time, the girl he had met
    online and was supposedly in love with. I felt kind of sorry for him,
    wondering how she was going to react when she saw what he really looked (and
    smelled) like. I hope it worked out okay.

    Maybe she knows, and is herself probably a big woman. That's where the
    internet is valuable- people who are overweight, let's face it, are
    not going to be the center of attention at a party or a bar. WHere are
    they supposed to meet people? THe internet is perfect in that way.
    You actually get totalk to someone before they see you; lots of fat
    people have met mates that way. Why not?

  14. On 11/10/04 7:52 AM, in article [email hidden], "Robert

    Chung said:
    Bob Schwartz said:

    Yeah. You never EVER see Asian types signing their posts with [censored]
    like 'Fat [censored]'.

    http://www.chijanofuji.com/gallery.html


    http://www.ebaumsworld.com/fatasiankid.html

  15. "Robert Chung" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Bob Schwartz said:

    Yeah. You never EVER see Asian types signing their posts with [censored]
    like 'Fat [censored]'.

    http://www.chijanofuji.com/gallery.html

    i know a few PRCs and they tell me because of American-style livin'
    there's an explosion of fatties in the cities there too.

  16. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    gwhite wrote:
    <stuff about the Enormous Fatties snipped>

    Quoted message said:

    I'm telling ya: The Fattie Epidemic is a greater threat to the security
    of this Empire than Al Qaeda and domestic ignorance combined.

    Quoted message said:

    The disease from within. Like syphilis driving Rome mad.
    K. Gringioni.
    Fat [censored]

    Dumbass,

    You're righter than you know.

    http://www.ucolick.org/~bjw/misc/obesity_vote.gif

    http://www.ucolick.org/~bjw/misc/obesity_vote2004.gif

    As before, DC is an outlier and the Rocky Mountain states
    form their own parallel trendline.

    Are moral values and self-indulgence correlated?

    Ben
    When donuts are outlawed, only outlaws will have donuts

  17. Benjamin Weiner said:


    http://www.ucolick.org/~bjw/misc/obesity_vote.gif

    http://www.ucolick.org/~bjw/misc/obesity_vote2004.gif

    As before, DC is an outlier and the Rocky Mountain states
    form their own parallel trendline.

    Are moral values and self-indulgence correlated?

    http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/polls/florida04.png

  18. "Robert Chung" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Are moral values and self-indulgence correlated?

    http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/polls/florida04.png

    Hmm. Miami, Ft Lauderdale, Palm Beach as the closest counties to supporting
    Kerry. Must be all those NY liberals who fled the NY weather.

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