Why don't you pussies

Guess what Carnot Engine,

Cary Ellis's science is a lot better than the Kangaroos who said their
test is 100% infallible.

DNA tests took years to be accepted because they needed to be reassured
all the false positives were worked out. Innocent people went to jail
over false positives for DNA tests.

The homologous blood transfusion test would never be accepted by a court
of law.

So don't confuse bad juries with bad science. And that ain't even how
you spell OJ.

[censored],

Magilla

Rik Van Diesel said:

pool your money together and put your own ad on Velonews that says you
don't believe tyler, or better yet.. Tyler and Oj both innocent.

RVD

MagillaGorilla wrote:

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Quoted message said:

The homologous blood transfusion test would never be accepted by a

court

Quoted message said:

of law.

Dumbass -

They're not going to throw the blood doper in jail. It's only bike
racing.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

MagillaGorilla wrote:

<snip>

Quoted message said:

The homologous blood transfusion test would never be accepted by a

court

Quoted message said:

of law.

Dumbass -

They're not going to throw the blood doper in jail. It's only bike
racing.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

MagillaDOPER!!!Gorilla said:

Innocent people went to jail over false positives for DNA tests.
The homologous blood transfusion test would never be accepted by a

court

Quoted message said:

of law.

DOPER!

Quoted message said:

you spell OJ.

How about Juice, DOPER!

RVD

Kurgan Gringioni said:

MagillaGorilla wrote:

<snip>

Quoted message said:

The homologous blood transfusion test would never be accepted by a

court

Quoted message said:

of law.

Dumbass -

They're not going to throw the blood doper in jail. It's only bike
racing.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Dumbass,

Ever hear of civil court?

Magilla

Lie detector tests aren't admissible in civil or criminal courts, and
statistically they are nearly 90% accurate. The reason why some science
isn't admissible even though it's almost always accurate is because certain
applications get blind faith when it isn't merited. This will be a part of
Tyler's argument, especially if he can't invalidate the science employed by
the UCI.

Tyler is going to file a lawsuit I guarantee it. The scientific methods
that ultimately are presented to the jury will be determined by a judge
after reviewing pre-trial motions to strike expert witness testimony.

I'm not so sure it's safe to assume that the UCI's methods will ultimately
be upheld by the arbitration panel. BTW, it will be a three judge panel,
one appointed by Tyler, one appointed by the UCI and the third appointed by
the consent of the first two (without input from the parties).
"MagillaGorilla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Kurgan Gringioni said:

MagillaGorilla wrote:

<snip>

Quoted message said:

The homologous blood transfusion test would never be accepted by a

court

Quoted message said:

of law.

Dumbass -

They're not going to throw the blood doper in jail. It's only bike
racing.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Dumbass,

Ever hear of civil court?

Magilla

MagillaGorilla <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Cary Ellis's science is a lot better than the Kangaroos who said their
test is 100% infallible.

Who the hell is Cary Ellis?

Quoted message said:

DNA tests took years to be accepted because they needed to be reassured
all the false positives were worked out. Innocent people went to jail
over false positives for DNA tests.

Duh! There is no "false positives" because that isn't the way the DNA
analysis works.

Maybe you ought to know a little something about the things that you
want to talk about.

Tom Kunich said:

Who the hell is Cary Ellis?

probably this guy:

http://nobelprize.org/chemistry/laureates/1993/mullis-autobio.html
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index/kmullis.htm

Tom Kunich said:

MagillaGorilla <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Cary Ellis's science is a lot better than the Kangaroos who said their
test is 100% infallible.

Who the hell is Cary Ellis?

Quoted message said:

DNA tests took years to be accepted because they needed to be reassured
all the false positives were worked out. Innocent people went to jail
over false positives for DNA tests.

Duh! There is no "false positives" because that isn't the way the DNA
analysis works.

Maybe you ought to know a little something about the things that you
want to talk about.

Sorry, I meant Kary Mullis, I keep forgetting his name. He's the guy
who invented the technique called PCR (polymerase chain reaction).

And yes, there were false positives with DNA, loser. You obviously
don't know how it works.

The false positives were based on insufficient statistics for certain
gene loci. So people were convicted based on DNA matches to what were
really gene loci that were fairly common in the population. It took
years to get enough statistics to make the DNA test false positive rate
in the "1 in 3.5 billion" range.

So you can drop your little condescending lecture, Tom.

Magilla

Tom's role here is to provide condescending lectures, Magilla. Tom is an
angry man. Tom break things when Tom mad. Tom no like Magilla. Magilla
hide.

Just kidding, Tom.

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Quoted message said:

Tom Kunich said:

MagillaGorilla <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Cary Ellis's science is a lot better than the Kangaroos who said their
test is 100% infallible.

Who the hell is Cary Ellis?

Quoted message said:

DNA tests took years to be accepted because they needed to be reassured
all the false positives were worked out. Innocent people went to jail
over false positives for DNA tests.

Duh! There is no "false positives" because that isn't the way the DNA
analysis works.

Maybe you ought to know a little something about the things that you
want to talk about.

Sorry, I meant Kary Mullis, I keep forgetting his name. He's the guy
who invented the technique called PCR (polymerase chain reaction).

And yes, there were false positives with DNA, loser. You obviously
don't know how it works.

The false positives were based on insufficient statistics for certain
gene loci. So people were convicted based on DNA matches to what were
really gene loci that were fairly common in the population. It took
years to get enough statistics to make the DNA test false positive rate
in the "1 in 3.5 billion" range.

So you can drop your little condescending lecture, Tom.

Magilla

"MagillaGorilla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Tom Kunich said:

MagillaGorilla <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Cary Ellis's science is a lot better than the Kangaroos who said their
test is 100% infallible.

Who the hell is Cary Ellis?

Quoted message said:

DNA tests took years to be accepted because they needed to be reassured
all the false positives were worked out. Innocent people went to jail
over false positives for DNA tests.

Duh! There is no "false positives" because that isn't the way the DNA
analysis works.

Maybe you ought to know a little something about the things that you
want to talk about.

Sorry, I meant Kary Mullis, I keep forgetting his name. He's the guy who
invented the technique called PCR (polymerase chain reaction).

Kary worked for Cetus and left a little after I got there. I was told that
he was so drugged up all the time that he was a danger to himself.

Quoted message said:

And yes, there were false positives with DNA, loser. You obviously don't
know how it works.

As a clue - I designed the power supply for the first and second generation
thermocyclers that makes the process possible. I just may have a little more
knowledge of the science than you do.

Quoted message said:

The false positives were based on insufficient statistics for certain gene
loci. So people were convicted based on DNA matches to what were really
gene loci that were fairly common in the population. It took years to get
enough statistics to make the DNA test false positive rate in the "1 in
3.5 billion" range.

What you are suggesting that the test gives "false positives" because people
don't know what they're looking at. Figures.

Quoted message said:

So you can drop your little condescending lecture, Tom.

For you, never a quicky, always a longy.