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  1. This should explain why I have to call home each time I make it safely
    to uni...

    First, the stats:

    Cycling to uni - new PB today 57 minutes, usually about 65 minutes.
    Travel outside of peak hours to use the roads, because the cycleway out
    near my area is downright scary, especially at night.

    Walk/bus or walk/bus/citycat to uni - approx 65 mins during peak hour
    (lots of buses on the busway) or approx 105 mins late night/early
    morning; cost $1.60 each way.

    Walk/train - just not practical, walking to the station takes 40
    minutes, nearest station to uni is about 30 minutes, and I have to
    interchange at the city; cost $1.60 each way.

    Drive - 25 minutes off peak, 45 minutes peak hour, 60 minutes peak hour
    in the wet, 90 minutes if there's a four car pileup on the bridge (not a
    frequent occurrence). Parking $2.50, petrol approx $3.00 each way. I
    don't include rego because I need my car to get to and from my other
    job, so I'd need to have my car registered anyway.

    So unlike most of the commuters who have piped up about how grand
    cycling is, I actually have a time/money tradeoff to consider. In terms
    of the stress levels... well I go to uni early anwyay, so the driving is
    quick and easy. One day a week I go to work straight after uni one day
    to circus and cycling home at 10:30 pm is not my thing, not out where I
    live, so I like to either drive on those days or drive to work/circus
    (free parking) and then ride to/from uni). If it's wet, it takes the
    same amount of time to ride or drive, and if I drive I stay dry. The
    public transport is improving but I only ever use it if I am too tired
    to ride back home or if it's peak hour when I'm travelling.

    The best thing about cycling is it allows me to double up on my exercise
    - I don't need to find another time to go for a ride. So the fact is,
    the only reason I ride is because I want to and I like the exercise.
    Sometimes when I'm poor I ride because I need to. But the last few weeks
    I've been massively busy so I've had to drive - the cost to park/travel
    meant less to me than the time!

    Now this morning I finally got back on the bike and rode in, it was a
    beautiful morning.

    First I copped some abuse from a driver down on Logan Rd. I consoled
    myself by thinking that he probably was born and (in)bred in Woodridge
    or some other really dumb suburb.

    Then I encountered a fellow who had something to prove. Well I assume he
    did, but I don't know what it was because he never backed it up; after
    passing him on a few hills I had a chat and that was a good thing
    because had I become a statistic he would've been a witness. He was a
    reasonably nice bloke.

    Heading through Mt Gravatt, a truck driver seemed offended that I passed
    him taking of from lights. ("Hello, I weight a lot less, of course I
    took off, I thought it would be better to clear the intersection than to
    eat your diesel fumes."😉 Despite there being another lane heading our
    way, totally clear, he didn't want to change lanes. Begrudgingly did so.
    Didn't even make a half-arsed effort to look like he cared about
    clearing me - as soon as the nose of the truck was past he started
    moving left, was about a foot away from me by the time I reached the
    door (with me rapidly slowing, veering left and considering jumping the
    kerb into the many bus-stop seats), brushing my shoulder as his tail
    passed. Hmmm, good morning.

    Rest of the ride was moderately uneventful, until Coro Drive bikepath
    (shared path) where the bell once again proved to NOT work, as a pack of
    cyclists passed on the other side several women didn't even think to
    give a bit more clearance, and coming up a hill towards a crazy runner
    in the middle of the path in a blind section, I was madly ringing my
    bell AND calling out "cyclist right, passing on your right, cyclist
    right" and she swore at me when I passed her - oh, she had earphones on
    and hadn't heard me. I'm such a bad person, apparently I should have
    ridden up, stepped off, tapped her on the shoulder "excuse me ma'am,
    would you mind shifting a little to the left so that I may safely pass
    you?"

    Closer to uni I had to deal with small cycling groups cutting corners in
    really unsafe places (they're lucky it was me they cut off and not (1)
    another such cycling group or (2) a car).

    SO... that's my relaxing daily commute. I think I'll hitch a ride home.
    Brisbane drivers just do their best to make it hell for cyclists.

  2. "Tamyka Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This should explain why I have to call home each time I make it safely
    to uni...

    First, the stats:

    Cycling to uni - new PB today 57 minutes, usually about 65 minutes.
    Travel outside of peak hours to use the roads, because the cycleway out
    near my area is downright scary, especially at night.

    Walk/bus or walk/bus/citycat to uni - approx 65 mins during peak hour
    (lots of buses on the busway) or approx 105 mins late night/early
    morning; cost $1.60 each way.

    Walk/train - just not practical, walking to the station takes 40
    minutes, nearest station to uni is about 30 minutes, and I have to
    interchange at the city; cost $1.60 each way.

    Drive - 25 minutes off peak, 45 minutes peak hour, 60 minutes peak hour
    in the wet, 90 minutes if there's a four car pileup on the bridge (not a
    frequent occurrence). Parking $2.50, petrol approx $3.00 each way. I
    don't include rego because I need my car to get to and from my other
    job, so I'd need to have my car registered anyway.

    So unlike most of the commuters who have piped up about how grand
    cycling is, I actually have a time/money tradeoff to consider. In terms
    of the stress levels... well I go to uni early anwyay, so the driving is
    quick and easy. One day a week I go to work straight after uni one day
    to circus and cycling home at 10:30 pm is not my thing, not out where I
    live, so I like to either drive on those days or drive to work/circus
    (free parking) and then ride to/from uni). If it's wet, it takes the
    same amount of time to ride or drive, and if I drive I stay dry. The
    public transport is improving but I only ever use it if I am too tired
    to ride back home or if it's peak hour when I'm travelling.

    The best thing about cycling is it allows me to double up on my exercise
    - I don't need to find another time to go for a ride. So the fact is,
    the only reason I ride is because I want to and I like the exercise.
    Sometimes when I'm poor I ride because I need to. But the last few weeks
    I've been massively busy so I've had to drive - the cost to park/travel
    meant less to me than the time!

    Now this morning I finally got back on the bike and rode in, it was a
    beautiful morning.

    First I copped some abuse from a driver down on Logan Rd. I consoled
    myself by thinking that he probably was born and (in)bred in Woodridge
    or some other really dumb suburb.

    Then I encountered a fellow who had something to prove. Well I assume he
    did, but I don't know what it was because he never backed it up; after
    passing him on a few hills I had a chat and that was a good thing
    because had I become a statistic he would've been a witness. He was a
    reasonably nice bloke.

    Heading through Mt Gravatt, a truck driver seemed offended that I passed
    him taking of from lights. ("Hello, I weight a lot less, of course I
    took off, I thought it would be better to clear the intersection than to
    eat your diesel fumes."😉 Despite there being another lane heading our
    way, totally clear, he didn't want to change lanes. Begrudgingly did so.
    Didn't even make a half-arsed effort to look like he cared about
    clearing me - as soon as the nose of the truck was past he started
    moving left, was about a foot away from me by the time I reached the
    door (with me rapidly slowing, veering left and considering jumping the
    kerb into the many bus-stop seats), brushing my shoulder as his tail
    passed. Hmmm, good morning.

    Rest of the ride was moderately uneventful, until Coro Drive bikepath
    (shared path) where the bell once again proved to NOT work, as a pack of
    cyclists passed on the other side several women didn't even think to
    give a bit more clearance, and coming up a hill towards a crazy runner
    in the middle of the path in a blind section, I was madly ringing my
    bell AND calling out "cyclist right, passing on your right, cyclist
    right" and she swore at me when I passed her - oh, she had earphones on
    and hadn't heard me. I'm such a bad person, apparently I should have
    ridden up, stepped off, tapped her on the shoulder "excuse me ma'am,
    would you mind shifting a little to the left so that I may safely pass
    you?"

    Closer to uni I had to deal with small cycling groups cutting corners in
    really unsafe places (they're lucky it was me they cut off and not (1)
    another such cycling group or (2) a car).

    SO ... that's my relaxing daily commute. I think I'll hitch a ride home.
    Brisbane drivers just do their best to make it hell for cyclists.

    Ahh the good old days. My relaxing daily commute goes something like this.

    I leave my house - travel about 250m before joining a newly formed bike
    lane. The road used to be two lanes but the council in their infinite
    wisdom decided 1 lane for cars was more than enough and a nice big cycle
    lane could be made from the other (I just love them council guys). Anyway I
    work on an island so I get to cycle over a causeway that has beautiful ocean
    on either side, no smog, all traffic heading in the same direction, all the
    drivers giving you a wide berth, being beeped and waved at by you passing
    work collegues in their cars. Oh and as I ride past the beach now that it
    is summer there are also plenty of yummy mummys to look at as well.

    hmmm come to think of it, I dont miss the good old days.

  3. Tamyka Bell said:

    ow this morning I finally got back on the bike and rode in, it was a
    beautiful morning.

    First I copped some abuse from a driver down on Logan Rd. I consoled
    myself by thinking that he probably was born and (in)bred in Woodridge
    or some other really dumb suburb.

    Then I encountered a fellow who had something to prove. Well I assume he
    did, but I don't know what it was because he never backed it up; after
    passing him on a few hills I had a chat and that was a good thing
    because had I become a statistic he would've been a witness. He was a
    reasonably nice bloke.

    Heading through Mt Gravatt, a truck driver seemed offended that I passed
    him taking of from lights. ("Hello, I weight a lot less, of course I
    took off, I thought it would be better to clear the intersection than to
    eat your diesel fumes."😉 Despite there being another lane heading our
    way, totally clear, he didn't want to change lanes. Begrudgingly did so.
    Didn't even make a half-arsed effort to look like he cared about
    clearing me - as soon as the nose of the truck was past he started
    moving left, was about a foot away from me by the time I reached the
    door (with me rapidly slowing, veering left and considering jumping the
    kerb into the many bus-stop seats), brushing my shoulder as his tail
    passed. Hmmm, good morning.

    Rest of the ride was moderately uneventful, until Coro Drive bikepath
    (shared path) where the bell once again proved to NOT work, as a pack of
    cyclists passed on the other side several women didn't even think to
    give a bit more clearance, and coming up a hill towards a crazy runner
    in the middle of the path in a blind section, I was madly ringing my
    bell AND calling out "cyclist right, passing on your right, cyclist
    right" and she swore at me when I passed her - oh, she had earphones on
    and hadn't heard me. I'm such a bad person, apparently I should have
    ridden up, stepped off, tapped her on the shoulder "excuse me ma'am,
    would you mind shifting a little to the left so that I may safely pass
    you?"

    Closer to uni I had to deal with small cycling groups cutting corners in
    really unsafe places (they're lucky it was me they cut off and not (1)
    another such cycling group or (2) a car).

    SO... that's my relaxing daily commute. I think I'll hitch a ride home.
    Brisbane drivers just do their best to make it hell for cyclists.

    Gotta be honest, after reading so many quite horrible experiences on here about riding/commuting etc... in Aus im not looking all that forward to going home. I forgot how the attitudes there to anything on 2 wheels with pedals are so differant. Im not looking forward to returning in general but with the Dutch Immigration people doing their best to stop me from working it could be a distinct possibility soon as the funds are running down. I guess on the flipside though it does motivate me to get out and ride here more and enjoy it while it lasts. If only i could live 6 months a year in each place....

  4. rcmbnt said:


    "Tamyka Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...


    <insert horrible rant and then snip>

    Quoted message said:


    Ahh the good old days. My relaxing daily commute goes something like this.

    I leave my house - travel about 250m before joining a newly formed bike
    lane. The road used to be two lanes but the council in their infinite
    wisdom decided 1 lane for cars was more than enough and a nice big cycle
    lane could be made from the other (I just love them council guys). Anyway I
    work on an island so I get to cycle over a causeway that has beautiful ocean
    on either side, no smog, all traffic heading in the same direction, all the
    drivers giving you a wide berth, being beeped and waved at by you passing
    work collegues in their cars. Oh and as I ride past the beach now that it
    is summer there are also plenty of yummy mummys to look at as well.

    hmmm come to think of it, I dont miss the good old days.

    Wait, where are you, and how do I get a job on that there island...

    T

  5. Tamyka Bell wrote:

    ...snip......

    Quoted message said:

    Heading through Mt Gravatt, a truck driver seemed offended that I passed
    him taking of from lights. ("Hello, I weight a lot less, of course I
    took off, I thought it would be better to clear the intersection than to
    eat your diesel fumes."😉

    Truck? Try a Trans Am, 6 out of 9 lights in Hunter St, Newcastle. Man,
    was he getting [censored] and I'm no roadie and I was on a step above a
    K-Mart bike {;-).

    I only posted that because I'm envious that I haven't been able to find
    any local employment to bicycle commute to. Nope, I'm not joining the
    other M5 commuter.

  6. Terry Collins said:


    Tamyka Bell wrote:

    ..snip......

    Quoted message said:

    Heading through Mt Gravatt, a truck driver seemed offended that I passed
    him taking of from lights. ("Hello, I weight a lot less, of course I
    took off, I thought it would be better to clear the intersection than to
    eat your diesel fumes."😉

    Truck? Try a Trans Am, 6 out of 9 lights in Hunter St, Newcastle. Man,
    was he getting [censored] and I'm no roadie and I was on a step above a
    K-Mart bike {;-).

    I only posted that because I'm envious that I haven't been able to find
    any local employment to bicycle commute to. Nope, I'm not joining the
    other M5 commuter.

    oh dear, you just highlighted my typo, I am so embarrassed...

    where's hippy this morning?

    T

  7. oely said:
    Tamyka Bell said:


    ow this morning I finally got back on the bike and rode in, it was a
    beautiful morning.

    First I copped some abuse from a driver down on Logan Rd. I consoled
    myself by thinking that he probably was born and (in)bred in Woodridge
    or some other really dumb suburb.

    Then I encountered a fellow who had something to prove. Well I assume
    he
    did, but I don't know what it was because he never backed it up; after
    passing him on a few hills I had a chat and that was a good thing
    because had I become a statistic he would've been a witness. He was a
    reasonably nice bloke.

    Heading through Mt Gravatt, a truck driver seemed offended that I
    passed
    him taking of from lights. ("Hello, I weight a lot less, of course I
    took off, I thought it would be better to clear the intersection than
    to
    eat your diesel fumes."😉 Despite there being another lane heading our
    way, totally clear, he didn't want to change lanes. Begrudgingly did
    so.
    Didn't even make a half-arsed effort to look like he cared about
    clearing me - as soon as the nose of the truck was past he started
    moving left, was about a foot away from me by the time I reached the
    door (with me rapidly slowing, veering left and considering jumping
    the
    kerb into the many bus-stop seats), brushing my shoulder as his tail
    passed. Hmmm, good morning.

    Rest of the ride was moderately uneventful, until Coro Drive bikepath
    (shared path) where the bell once again proved to NOT work, as a pack
    of
    cyclists passed on the other side several women didn't even think to
    give a bit more clearance, and coming up a hill towards a crazy runner
    in the middle of the path in a blind section, I was madly ringing my
    bell AND calling out "cyclist right, passing on your right, cyclist
    right" and she swore at me when I passed her - oh, she had earphones
    on
    and hadn't heard me. I'm such a bad person, apparently I should have
    ridden up, stepped off, tapped her on the shoulder "excuse me ma'am,
    would you mind shifting a little to the left so that I may safely pass
    you?"

    Closer to uni I had to deal with small cycling groups cutting corners
    in
    really unsafe places (they're lucky it was me they cut off and not (1)
    another such cycling group or (2) a car).

    SO... that's my relaxing daily commute. I think I'll hitch a ride
    home.
    Brisbane drivers just do their best to make it hell for cyclists.

    Gotta be honest, after reading so many quite horrible experiences on
    here about riding/commuting etc... in Aus im not looking all that
    forward to going home. I forgot how the attitudes there to anything on
    2 wheels with pedals are so differant. Im not looking forward to
    returning in general but with the Dutch Immigration people doing their
    best to stop me from working it could be a distinct possibility soon as
    the funds are running down. I guess on the flipside though it does
    motivate me to get out and ride here more and enjoy it while it lasts.
    If only i could live 6 months a year in each place....

    But...I think most people are more likely to post bad experiences than
    good, wrongly suggesting that most riding experiences are bad.

    In my experience, bad 'incidents' are only a tiny part of my riding.

    Having said that, I think it takes experience and skill to negotiate
    major city traffic with calm and composure 🙂

    --
    Nick

  8. NickZX6R said:

    Having said that, I think it takes experience and skill to negotiate
    major city traffic with calm and composure 🙂

    Oh, I do it with calm and composure. Every time I get tooted, or cut
    off, I calmly (and with a great deal of composure) give them a two
    finger salute. 🙂

    --
    My Usenet From: address now expires after two weeks. If you email me, and
    the mail bounces, try changing the bit before the "@ to usenet".

  9. Stuart Lamble said:


    NickZX6R said:

    Having said that, I think it takes experience and skill to negotiate
    major city traffic with calm and composure 🙂

    Oh, I do it with calm and composure. Every time I get tooted, or cut
    off, I calmly (and with a great deal of composure) give them a two
    finger salute. 🙂

    Must be calm and composed, and must make what I'm doing look really,
    really easy... just to rub it in. Anyone noticed how you put a bit more
    effort in when people can see you? I used to do the 2nd half of a run
    where more people would see me, good motivation to put in.

    T

  10. On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 at 00:44 GMT, Stuart Lamble (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:
    NickZX6R said:

    Having said that, I think it takes experience and skill to negotiate
    major city traffic with calm and composure 🙂

    Oh, I do it with calm and composure. Every time I get tooted, or cut
    off, I calmly (and with a great deal of composure) give them a two
    finger salute. 🙂

    Can't rememember whether I mentioned my trip along...was it North road
    along to St Kilda? I'm riding relatively close to the gutter, and some
    guy toots his horn. So I look in my rear view mirror, and see it's
    some guy in a posh car. So I pull out further from the gutter. For
    500m, he toots his horn. By the end of it, I'm about 3/4 of the lane
    to the right. Never did occur to him...

    Course, as soon as he overtook me, he turned into a left side
    street. Didn't cut me off, but could have possibly waited that extra
    20m, could he?

    --
    TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
    If you ever fear that machines will surpass humans in intelligence,
    just ask Microsoft to write the OS. -- POTU in RHOD

  11. TimC said:


    guy toots his horn. So I look in my rear view mirror, and see it's
    some guy in a posh car. So I pull out further from the gutter. For
    500m, he toots his horn. By the end of it, I'm about 3/4 of the lane
    to the right. Never did occur to him...

    Course, as soon as he overtook me, he turned into a left side
    street. Didn't cut me off, but could have possibly waited that extra
    20m, could he?

    One of my pleasures is spotting a patient motor signaling left behind me,
    checking that there are no other vehicles, signal, then move to the right hand lane.

    Of my commute, its a 15km, 15 minute drive + 10 minute walk (I hate spending seconds looking for a park), bonus: no fee vs a 17km, 45 minute ride.
    I used to do a 14.5km, 35 minutes ride but these days I prefer playing with the traffic to sharing with pedestrians and path cyclists.

  12. "NickZX6R" <[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    But...I think most people are more likely to post bad experiences than
    good, wrongly suggesting that most riding experiences are bad.

    True.. I only really post the bad stuff. The good stuff is
    actually quite boring "Had a great ride today.. didn't
    even notice I was pedaling.. beat my PB.. won the race"
    Well.. maybe winning a race ain't so boring but
    commuting is pretty boring relative to the 'incidents' that
    occasionally happen. Plus, it's a good way to get some
    stress off your chest.. vent it out to understanding riders :-)

    Quoted message said:

    Having said that, I think it takes experience and skill to negotiate
    major city traffic with calm and composure 🙂

    Calm and composure? What are they?

    hippy

  13. "Tamyka Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    where's hippy this morning?

    hippy slept in and took today off after spending
    WAY too much time at work...

    So now he's undone the sleep in by staying up
    too late.. but there's only POETS day left so it
    should go quickly.

    I can't give you a cool commute story.. but I can
    tell you that I had my first ride on the track (for
    the season) tonight. I waited for the novice
    session to finish and jumped on.
    I have issues with Miche's rear cog - I couldn't get
    the Miche cog off the Miche cog-mount. So I had
    to run 49/18 rather than my usual 49/16 which is
    already a quite small training gear... Gotta see if
    there's some tool available to get this stupid thing
    off. Position on the bike sucks too after all the road
    riding I've been doing.. but that's probably TOB*
    and flexability related. Strange noises are WAY
    more unnerving when you have no brakes!
    I also want to get another set of SPD-SLs because
    I don't trust my SPDs for high-power track starts.
    Now that all the [censored] at work is done there'll be
    more HOB**.
    I hope Max is feeling better after his crash..

    * Time On Bike
    **Hippy On Bike

    hippy

  14. NickZX6R said:

    But...I think most people are more likely to post bad experiences than
    good, wrongly suggesting that most riding experiences are bad.

    In my experience, bad 'incidents' are only a tiny part of my riding.

    Having said that, I think it takes experience and skill to negotiate
    major city traffic with calm and composure 🙂

    --
    Nick

    Thats true about the whole bad experiences thing, and i wouldn´t really expect people posting about uneventful rides. But cyclists over here can be spoilt with decent bike lanes, roads and attitudes from motorists and i´ll miss that if i return to Sydney.

    Now having said all that i think i might vent that i hate driving here. It´s frustration from start to finish. Indicators are rarely used at all. You´d think people are being fined if they have indicated and moved safely into another lane. Then if on the odd occasion it is used, the motorist has already moved into the lane making an indicator rather pointless. Ok Ok im done you wont hear another peep outta me on motorists here, just as there wont be any more cyclists venting frustrations on here? 🙂

  15. "Tamyka Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    rcmbnt said:


    "Tamyka Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...


    <insert horrible rant and then snip>

    Quoted message said:


    Ahh the good old days. My relaxing daily commute goes something like
    this.

    I leave my house - travel about 250m before joining a newly formed bike
    lane. The road used to be two lanes but the council in their infinite
    wisdom decided 1 lane for cars was more than enough and a nice big cycle
    lane could be made from the other (I just love them council guys).
    Anyway I
    work on an island so I get to cycle over a causeway that has beautiful
    ocean
    on either side, no smog, all traffic heading in the same direction, all
    the
    drivers giving you a wide berth, being beeped and waved at by you passing
    work collegues in their cars. Oh and as I ride past the beach now that
    it
    is summer there are also plenty of yummy mummys to look at as well.

    hmmm come to think of it, I dont miss the good old days.

    Wait, where are you, and how do I get a job on that there island...

    T

    I'm in WA and to get a job here - Join the navy 🙂

    R

  16. rcmbnt said:


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    I'm in WA and to get a job here - Join the navy 🙂

    R

    Don't think my army boss would like that. See you at the championships
    next year, they're over my side of the country.

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