New Hour Record set in LA!

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Warren said:

"James Thurber" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Selected quotes from cyclingnews.com:

"...Gunn now holds the world and USA record for 30-34 year old non-pro
riders at 47.764 km, measured to the nearest meter. No rider has ever
tried this so the bar as been set for some other riders to try and
break this new world record..."

So basically this guy created his own category and then set a "record"
in it?

No. He competed in an existing category. You can check at the UCI website or
at worldmasters.com.

Isn't this kind of like electing yourself president of your own

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imaginary country?

"...He said it was harder then he thought it would be and if he ever
tried it again he would train for it. Gunn wants to turn pro next
season, thus he wanted to get this record as an amateur rider..."

He would train for it? WTF? I guess even if he'd done a kilo and a
half it'd still have been a record.

I have decided to create a category of 36 year-old men who are over
six feet tall and enjoy fast club rides. I will be setting my new hour
record shortly in the Super WalMart parking lot. Look for the full
report in CycleSport. I will then be soliciting offers from Pro
Tour-qualified cycling teams.

Nothing against Mr. Gunn but he's leading the pack for uber-fred.

Not as bad as people who don't let ignorance of the relevant facts dissuade
them from ranting about something they couldn't do themselves. Curtis is a
world-class rider in his age group. Do some research.

-WG

Warren,

Help him out here a little....

http://www.cyclingmasters.com/results/records.html

Scott
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scott patton said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Warren said:

"James Thurber" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Selected quotes from cyclingnews.com:

"...Gunn now holds the world and USA record for 30-34 year old non-pro
riders at 47.764 km, measured to the nearest meter. No rider has ever
tried this so the bar as been set for some other riders to try and
break this new world record..."

So basically this guy created his own category and then set a "record"
in it?

No. He competed in an existing category. You can check at the UCI website or
at worldmasters.com.

Isn't this kind of like electing yourself president of your own

Quoted message said:

imaginary country?

"...He said it was harder then he thought it would be and if he ever
tried it again he would train for it. Gunn wants to turn pro next
season, thus he wanted to get this record as an amateur rider..."

He would train for it? WTF? I guess even if he'd done a kilo and a
half it'd still have been a record.

I have decided to create a category of 36 year-old men who are over
six feet tall and enjoy fast club rides. I will be setting my new hour
record shortly in the Super WalMart parking lot. Look for the full
report in CycleSport. I will then be soliciting offers from Pro
Tour-qualified cycling teams.

Nothing against Mr. Gunn but he's leading the pack for uber-fred.

Not as bad as people who don't let ignorance of the relevant facts dissuade
them from ranting about something they couldn't do themselves. Curtis is a
world-class rider in his age group. Do some research.

-WG

Warren,

Help him out here a little....

http://www.cyclingmasters.com/results/records.html

Scott

Interesting--particularly the team sprint--135+ years. Is that
combined age or a misprint?

Steve

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http://www.dentaltwins.com
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"scott patton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Warren said:

"James Thurber" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Selected quotes from cyclingnews.com:

"...Gunn now holds the world and USA record for 30-34 year old non-pro
riders at 47.764 km, measured to the nearest meter. No rider has ever
tried this so the bar as been set for some other riders to try and
break this new world record..."

So basically this guy created his own category and then set a "record"
in it?

No. He competed in an existing category. You can check at the UCI website

or

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at worldmasters.com.

Isn't this kind of like electing yourself president of your own

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imaginary country?

"...He said it was harder then he thought it would be and if he ever
tried it again he would train for it. Gunn wants to turn pro next
season, thus he wanted to get this record as an amateur rider..."

He would train for it? WTF? I guess even if he'd done a kilo and a
half it'd still have been a record.

I have decided to create a category of 36 year-old men who are over
six feet tall and enjoy fast club rides. I will be setting my new hour
record shortly in the Super WalMart parking lot. Look for the full
report in CycleSport. I will then be soliciting offers from Pro
Tour-qualified cycling teams.

Nothing against Mr. Gunn but he's leading the pack for uber-fred.

Not as bad as people who don't let ignorance of the relevant facts

dissuade

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them from ranting about something they couldn't do themselves. Curtis is

a

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world-class rider in his age group. Do some research.

-WG

Warren,

Help him out here a little....

http://www.cyclingmasters.com/results/records.html

There you go. And isn't it nice to know that we'll start seeing another USA
track on that list, i.e. one that's fast enough for records? I'm looking
forward to riding on it next summer.

-WG

Warren said:

Curtis is a world-class rider in his age group. Do some research.

http://www.phys.uu.nl/~dronkert/cycling/ucipoints04.php

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scott patton said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Warren said:

"James Thurber" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>Selected quotes from cyclingnews.com:
>
>"...Gunn now holds the world and USA record for 30-34 year old non-pro
>riders at 47.764 km, measured to the nearest meter. No rider has ever
>tried this so the bar as been set for some other riders to try and
>break this new world record..."
>
>So basically this guy created his own category and then set a "record"
>in it?

No. He competed in an existing category. You can check at the UCI

website or

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at worldmasters.com.

Isn't this kind of like electing yourself president of your own

>imaginary country?
>
>"...He said it was harder then he thought it would be and if he ever
>tried it again he would train for it. Gunn wants to turn pro next
>season, thus he wanted to get this record as an amateur rider..."
>
>He would train for it? WTF? I guess even if he'd done a kilo and a
>half it'd still have been a record.
>
>I have decided to create a category of 36 year-old men who are over
>six feet tall and enjoy fast club rides. I will be setting my new hour
>record shortly in the Super WalMart parking lot. Look for the full
>report in CycleSport. I will then be soliciting offers from Pro
>Tour-qualified cycling teams.
>
>Nothing against Mr. Gunn but he's leading the pack for uber-fred.

Not as bad as people who don't let ignorance of the relevant facts

dissuade

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them from ranting about something they couldn't do themselves. Curtis is

a

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world-class rider in his age group. Do some research.

-WG

Warren,

Help him out here a little....

http://www.cyclingmasters.com/results/records.html

Scott

Interesting--particularly the team sprint--135+ years. Is that
combined age or a misprint?

Combined age of all three riders must be at least that number. Like here,
for example..
http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?year=2004&id=268&info_id=2957

The team sprint is sooo much fun!

-WG

Warren said:

Combined age of all three riders must be at least that number. Like here,
for example..
http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?year=2004&id=268&info_id=2957

The team sprint is sooo much fun!

-WG

Thanks!

Steve

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

Warren said:

Not as bad as people who don't let ignorance of the relevant facts dissuade
them from ranting about something they couldn't do themselves. Curtis is a
world-class rider in his age group. Do some research.

I did some research. The hour record holder in the 30-34 age category is
a chap named Rominger. He went 55.291 km, which far outdistances Curtis'
mark of 47.764 km. He was 33 at the time.

I believe he was also a world class rider in his age group.

The UCI should stop recognizing records that aren't records.

Bob Schwartz
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Bob Schwartz said:

Warren said:

Not as bad as people who don't let ignorance of the relevant facts dissuade
them from ranting about something they couldn't do themselves. Curtis is a
world-class rider in his age group. Do some research.

I did some research. The hour record holder in the 30-34 age category is
a chap named Rominger. He went 55.291 km, which far outdistances Curtis'
mark of 47.764 km. He was 33 at the time.

I believe he was also a world class rider in his age group.

The UCI should stop recognizing records that aren't records.

Bob Schwartz
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While I can sort of agree with you, the key thing is here that
Rominger was a pro... Curtis is an amateur. Some like there being
a distinction.

Scott
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Warren said:

Not as bad as people who don't let ignorance of the relevant facts

dissuade

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

them from ranting about something they couldn't do themselves. Curtis is

a

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world-class rider in his age group. Do some research.

I did some research. The hour record holder in the 30-34 age category is
a chap named Rominger. He went 55.291 km, which far outdistances Curtis'
mark of 47.764 km. He was 33 at the time.

I believe he was also a world class rider in his age group.

The UCI should stop recognizing records that aren't records.

The record set by Curtis is for "amateurs", not "open", and not
"professional".

-WG

"Bob Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Warren said:

Not as bad as people who don't let ignorance of the relevant facts

dissuade

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

them from ranting about something they couldn't do themselves. Curtis is

a

Quoted message said:

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world-class rider in his age group. Do some research.

I did some research. The hour record holder in the 30-34 age category is
a chap named Rominger. He went 55.291 km, which far outdistances Curtis'
mark of 47.764 km. He was 33 at the time.

I believe he was also a world class rider in his age group.

The UCI should stop recognizing records that aren't records.

Bob Schwartz
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I thought it was a joke from the start. First off, Kent Bostick set a UCI
record for the hour for ANY Masters age group in Manchester in 1999 at
49.3610. So really in reality what record did Gunn set when a guy 10 years
his senior went farther? Masters records should only be valid when you A)
beat everyone in your age group and B) surpass those older than you also.
Dave

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I thought it was a joke from the start. First off, Kent Bostick set a UCI
record for the hour for ANY Masters age group in Manchester in 1999 at
49.3610. So really in reality what record did Gunn set when a guy 10 years
his senior went farther? Masters records should only be valid when you A)
beat everyone in your age group and B) surpass those older than you also.
Dave

What happened to Speedy?

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Warren said:

Not as bad as people who don't let ignorance of the relevant facts
dissuade them from ranting about something they couldn't do themselves.
Curtis is a world-class rider in his age group. Do some research.

I did some research. The hour record holder in the 30-34 age category is
a chap named Rominger. He went 55.291 km, which far outdistances Curtis'
mark of 47.764 km. He was 33 at the time.

I believe he was also a world class rider in his age group.

The UCI should stop recognizing records that aren't records.

I thought it was a joke from the start. First off, Kent Bostick set a UCI
record for the hour for ANY Masters age group in Manchester in 1999 at
49.3610. So really in reality what record did Gunn set when a guy 10 years
his senior went farther? Masters records should only be valid when you A)
beat everyone in your age group and B) surpass those older than you also.

Let's also remember that Rominger was using geek bars and a funnybike both
of which are out now. I think that that Bostick's record (set in 1999 in the
USA?) has that same asterisk on it.

Remember that Eddy's Hour Record was 49.43 set in the mile high and dry
Mexico City and that makes Gunn's record set at sea level and close to the
high humidity and energy sapping ocean a whole lot more impressive than
geeks are likely to note.

Furthermore you really have to compare it to Chris Boardman's hour record
from the year 2000 after he took a go at Eddy's record with the latest
improvements in bicycle gear EXCEPT the prone position offered by geek bars.
Chis's record is 49.441. That makes Gunn's record of about one mile less
than the fastest cyclist on earth after an hour look pretty damned good.

Of course there is that little strange fact that Gunn is an amatuer whereas
Boardman, Rominger and Merckx were professionals of the highest caliber.
Bostick has been a pro and amatuer since God separated the heavens from the
firmament below.

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Let's also remember that Rominger was using geek bars and a funnybike both
of which are out now. I think that that Bostick's record (set in 1999 in
the USA?) has that same asterisk on it.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/trackphotos.php?id=photos/2004/nov04/LATT/0005-Gunn

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Warren <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Not as bad as people who don't let ignorance of the relevant facts
> dissuade them from ranting about something they couldn't do

themselves.

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> Curtis is a world-class rider in his age group. Do some research.

I did some research. The hour record holder in the 30-34 age category

is

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a chap named Rominger. He went 55.291 km, which far outdistances

Curtis'

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mark of 47.764 km. He was 33 at the time.

I believe he was also a world class rider in his age group.

The UCI should stop recognizing records that aren't records.

I thought it was a joke from the start. First off, Kent Bostick set a

UCI

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record for the hour for ANY Masters age group in Manchester in 1999 at
49.3610. So really in reality what record did Gunn set when a guy 10

years

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his senior went farther? Masters records should only be valid when you

A)

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beat everyone in your age group and B) surpass those older than you

also.

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Let's also remember that Rominger was using geek bars and a funnybike both
of which are out now. I think that that Bostick's record (set in 1999 in

the

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USA?) has that same asterisk on it.

Remember that Eddy's Hour Record was 49.43 set in the mile high and dry
Mexico City and that makes Gunn's record set at sea level and close to the
high humidity and energy sapping ocean a whole lot more impressive than
geeks are likely to note.

Furthermore you really have to compare it to Chris Boardman's hour record
from the year 2000 after he took a go at Eddy's record with the latest
improvements in bicycle gear EXCEPT the prone position offered by geek

bars.

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Chis's record is 49.441. That makes Gunn's record of about one mile less
than the fastest cyclist on earth after an hour look pretty damned good.

Of course there is that little strange fact that Gunn is an amatuer

whereas

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Boardman, Rominger and Merckx were professionals of the highest caliber.
Bostick has been a pro and amatuer since God separated the heavens from

the

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firmament below.

Again, as I said what kind of record is it when you don't beat the guy 10
years your senior at a Masters event no less, Bostick surpassed those ahead
and behind him in age, indoors at Manchester. Gunn surpassed well... himself
I guess.

Dave

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Remember that Eddy's Hour Record was 49.43 set in the mile high and dry
Mexico City and that makes Gunn's record set at sea level and close to the
high humidity and energy sapping ocean a whole lot more impressive than
geeks are likely to note.

Humidity is faster than dry air.

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Furthermore you really have to compare it to Chris Boardman's hour record
from the year 2000 after he took a go at Eddy's record with the latest
improvements in bicycle gear EXCEPT the prone position offered by geek
bars. Chis's record is 49.441. That makes Gunn's record of about one mile
less than the fastest cyclist on earth after an hour look pretty damned
good.

Boardman did not use disk wheels.

My point in all this is not to diss Curtis, but to point out the errors in
Tom's post.

Warren said:

Not as bad as people who don't let ignorance of the relevant facts

dissuade

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them from ranting about something they couldn't do themselves. Curtis

is a

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world-class rider in his age group. Do some research.

Dumbass -

[censored].

The world class riders in 30-34 are real pros.
Goddamm Masters Wannabees.

K. Gringioni.

In article <J6yod.18836$233.5500@okepread05>,

Carl Sundquist said:

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Let's also remember that Rominger was using geek bars and a funnybike both
of which are out now. I think that that Bostick's record (set in 1999 in
the USA?) has that same asterisk on it.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/trackphotos.php?id=photos/2004/nov04/LATT/0005-Gunn

Hey Carl - what's wrong with this picture:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/trackphotos.php?id=photos/2004/nov04/LATT/ZacF
ordstarts

No one clocked an automatic qualifying time even with an advantage.

Mike G.
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