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Green Clique Targets M1 for 50 Limit

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  1. As the association of British Drivers puts it:

    Green Clique Targets M1 for 50 Limit

    In the latest anti-car plot to be conjured up in Sheffield, the 'M1 Corridor

    Clean Air Partnership' (a clique consisting of Sheffield City Council,

    Rotherham council, several government agencies, bus companies, and greens)

    want to reduce the speed limit on the M1 through the city to 50mph. They

    claim this will reduce levels of Nitrogen Oxides (NOx). The Highway's Agency

    have expressed reservations about the proposal.

    See their website: M1 Corridor Clean Air Partnership

    m1airaction.comm1airaction.com

    unquote

    If you're in the "Green Clique" (or even if you're not)

    please go to the website concerned and give your views

    on whether the air quality in the Tinsley area - an "air quality action zone"

    should be improved by lowering the speed limit on the M1 in this area to

    50.

    Simon

  2. I don't think this would be an issue if the government got its finger out its [censored] (or out of
    taxpayers pockets) and forced everyone onto cleaner fuels like LPG.

    I'm also not convinsed that a 50 limit is right - IIRC 60 is closer to the optimum for lowest
    emmissions per vehicle mile (I can't find a source for this ATM, so I may be wrong)

    But this bit of motorway is in a city and people living in that city must be respected. Really, they
    should have built the M1 around Sheffield.

  3. Oh, and where have the ABD commented on this? They haven't on their website.

  4. Nathaniel Porter <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    But this bit of motorway is in a city and people living in that city must


    be

    Quoted message said:

    respected. Really, they should have built the M1 around Sheffield.

    To be fair, when it was built it was all an industrial area. The steelmills have all since gone,
    and Sheffield and Rotherham are now busy filling in the gap that used to exist between them, where
    the M1 is.

  5. "Andrew Sweetman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Nathaniel Porter <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    But this bit of motorway is in a city and people living in that city


    must

    Quoted message said:

    be

    Quoted message said:

    respected. Really, they should have built the M1 around Sheffield.

    To be fair, when it was built it was all an industrial area. The


    steelmills

    Quoted message said:

    have all since gone, and Sheffield and Rotherham are now busy filling in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    gap that used to exist between them, where the M1 is.

    True. Perhaps the consideration should be made that if anyone in Tinsley is concerned about
    pollution, they should forget about the motorway, as it will be minor compared to the legacy of the
    industry that was once there.

  6. Not surprised the Highways Agency is against it, £56m is being spent to strengthen the viaduct to
    allow all three lanes to be operational. The smell around there is appalling due to the sewage works

    "Simon Geller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    As the association of British Drivers puts it:

    Green Clique Targets M1 for 50 Limit

    In the latest anti-car plot to be conjured up in Sheffield, the 'M1


    Corridor

    Quoted message said:


    Clean Air Partnership' (a clique consisting of Sheffield City Council,

    Rotherham council, several government agencies, bus companies, and greens)

    want to reduce the speed limit on the M1 through the city to 50mph. They

    claim this will reduce levels of Nitrogen Oxides (NOx). The Highway's


    Agency

    Quoted message said:


    have expressed reservations about the proposal.

    See their website: M1 Corridor Clean Air Partnership

    m1airaction.comm1airaction.com

    unquote

    If you're in the "Green Clique" (or even if you're not)

    please go to the website concerned and give your views

    on whether the air quality in the Tinsley area - an "air quality action zone"

    should be improved by lowering the speed limit on the M1 in this area to

    50.

    Simon

  7. "Nathaniel Porter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    But this bit of motorway is in a city and people living in that city must be respected. Really,
    they should have built the M1 around Sheffield.

    For the most part they did, as it only skirts the eastern edge - presumably the lie of the land made
    construction easier, as the North Midland Railway did a similar thing in the 1840s, going from
    Chesterfield to Rotherham and avoiding Sheffield (and the need for tunnels and inclines) completely!

    David E. Belcher

    Dept. of Chemistry, University of York

  8. "Simon Geller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    As the association of British Drivers puts it:

    Green Clique Targets M1 for 50 Limit

    In the latest anti-car plot to be conjured up in Sheffield, the 'M1


    Corridor

    Quoted message said:


    Clean Air Partnership' (a clique consisting of Sheffield City Council,

    Rotherham council, several government agencies, bus companies, and greens)

    want to reduce the speed limit on the M1 through the city to 50mph. They

    claim this will reduce levels of Nitrogen Oxides (NOx). The Highway's


    Agency

    Quoted message said:


    have expressed reservations about the proposal.

    See their website: M1 Corridor Clean Air Partnership

    m1airaction.comm1airaction.com

    unquote

    If you're in the "Green Clique" (or even if you're not)

    please go to the website concerned and give your views

    on whether the air quality in the Tinsley area - an "air quality action zone"

    should be improved by lowering the speed limit on the M1 in this area to

    50.

    Actually, I've reviewed my opinion on this. As the ABD haven't made any PR on this as you claim, I
    can only assume the only way you can think of for people to support this scheme is to say a group
    which is (not unjustifiably) unpopular here is against it, instead of advertising the scheme on its
    own merits.

    I hope people can see through you

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