"Geoff" <[email hidden]> wrote
Quoted message said:"hippy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
Quoted message said:Okay, so Miche have a funky arrangement whereby
the cog itself doesn't screw on to the hub, it instead uses
a screw-on adaptor that the cog sits on, engaging with
half-circle 'splines', all held in place by a standard lockring.
Problem: How do you remove the frickin adaptor!!??
More Leverage Required...
Hmm.. I figured that was it, but I 'was' putting a fair
bit of anger into the pedal..
Quoted message said:You need to get yourself a Track chain whip if you want to get the adaptor
off. Why a track specific one? Because standard track cogs are wider than
road cogs hence the chain is also wider. You will use this tool often
during both training and racing if you are using screw on cogs.
Yeah, I have two chainwhips already.. for road chains! Doh!
Quoted message said:Assuming you don't already have the screw on cogs why not just get a full
set (14,15,16, and 17) of Miche cogs (not overly expensive as far as cogs
go). That way you dont have to worry about getting the spline adaptor off
the hub.
If you are using the Miche cogs on the spline adaptor all you need is a
lockring tool.
I have three screw-on cogs (15T, 16T, 17T) and an 18T Miche.
I don't have a lockring tool or track chainwhip. I think I might get
a new lockring because the groove for the tool on mine is mangled
from the previous owner. I've been using a screwdriver and hammer
to bang it tight. :-)
Quoted message said:Also assuming that you would want a warm up in a gear of around 81" a 51T
front ring probably would not go astray either.
I have to check my chainring collection. I have strange
cranks so could be limited in my choice or it will cost me
a fortune..
Okay, I have 45T, 48T(2), 50T, 51T chainrings.
Quoted message said:That would give you:
81" (51x17) good warmup gear
86.1" (51x16)
86.4" (48x15)
91.8" (51x15)
92.6" (48x14)
98.4" (51x14) Big Gear for Standing start training/ Flying 500s or 1000s
The good thing with using a 51T ring at training is you can go from a
light
Quoted message said:81" to a heavyish 98.4" without changing the front ring or (subject to
dropout length) the chain length.
All you are really missing then is your common racing gears of 88.2"
(49x15,
Quoted message said:I hardly ever use this) and 90" (for which you will have the need for a
50T
Quoted message said:ring)
If I get my act together I might swap the 49T for the 51T
and see how I go.
Quoted message said:If you really need to get the adapter off one of the others at training
will
Quoted message said:have a chain whip in their toolbox that they would more than likely let
you
Quoted message said:use for a few minutes. Just make sure you return it to it's rightful
owner
Quoted message said:or you'll lose all privileges to borrow any tools again. ;-)
John Nicholson (da coach) had this awesome trick. He just wrapped
the chain around the cog and back over itself (somehow..) and then
grabbed the wheel and spun it. Bugger me if the cog didn't just spin
off! (I must have loosened it for him ;-) ). Then he put the scew-on
cog on and reversed the chain and used the same trick to do up the
cog!
Is it compulsory to race with a lockring?
hippy
