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  1. Zoot Katz said:
    Quoted message said:

    rained-on with a righteous spillage of maple syrup (I Am
    Canadian), and a few mugs of anything dark, strong &
    stimulating to wash it all down.

    Guinness!

    Although, anybody I ever met who drank beer for breakfast, drinks
    Extra Old Stock

    bud tall boys. but he drank for breakfast, lunch, dinner and, well, all
    the damn time. frankly i'm not sure i'd be taking advice on beer from
    someone who drinks it for breafast.

    but when i'm still up for breakfast then guinness it is!
    --
    david reuteler
    [email hidden]

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    David Reuteler said:

    but when i'm still up for breakfast then guinness it is!

    Goes nicely with smoked herrings.

    cheers,
    Tom

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  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (R15757) said:
    Tom Keats said:

    A nice, robust cup of Ceylon Black or Darjeeling
    would really hit the spot right now. I just got home
    from work, backfilling & compacting in an excavation,
    in the pouring rain. I'm still struggling out of wet
    clothes. The ride home was grueling.

    mmm ... gruel. And a cup of anything hot.

    A long hot shower is just the ticket
    after working all day in the rain.

    Better yet, take a bath, make tea
    out of yourself. Don't drink it though.

    Friday was another cold, wet day. And another cold, wet,
    rainy ride home from work, in wet work clothes. Actually,
    a ride to the office to pick up my cheque, then to the bank
    to cash it, and then home. Having been broke & foodless
    over Thursday and Friday, my fuel metre was pegging the E,
    and I didn't have any strength left to do anything but give
    the landlady 4/5's of my paycheque, and flop for the night.
    Yesterday I was sick as a dog with a cold or a chill or
    something, but it's a lot better today, after a lot of rest,
    a good nosh, and a lingering hot bath. In fact my rapid rate
    of recovery is remarkable. I wanna get a few 10's of kilos of
    epsom salts so I could really loll around in the tub.

    Maybe this all sounds awful to some folks, but I still enjoy
    working outdoors, doing physical labour, and being able to ride
    to & from work -- even in the rain, in refrigerator temperatures.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
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    Above address is just a spam midden.
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  4. (Tom Keats) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (R15757) said:
    Tom Keats said:

    A nice, robust cup of Ceylon Black or Darjeeling
    would really hit the spot right now. I just got home
    from work, backfilling & compacting in an excavation,
    in the pouring rain. I'm still struggling out of wet
    clothes. The ride home was grueling.

    mmm ... gruel. And a cup of anything hot.

    A long hot shower is just the ticket
    after working all day in the rain.

    Better yet, take a bath, make tea
    out of yourself. Don't drink it though.

    Friday was another cold, wet day. And another cold, wet,
    rainy ride home from work, in wet work clothes. Actually,
    a ride to the office to pick up my cheque, then to the bank
    to cash it, and then home. Having been broke & foodless
    over Thursday and Friday, my fuel metre was pegging the E,
    and I didn't have any strength left to do anything but give
    the landlady 4/5's of my paycheque, and flop for the night.
    Yesterday I was sick as a dog with a cold or a chill or
    something, but it's a lot better today, after a lot of rest,
    a good nosh, and a lingering hot bath. In fact my rapid rate
    of recovery is remarkable. I wanna get a few 10's of kilos of
    epsom salts so I could really loll around in the tub.

    Maybe this all sounds awful to some folks, but I still enjoy
    working outdoors, doing physical labour, and being able to ride
    to & from work -- even in the rain, in refrigerator temperatures.

    Hat tip to the healthy attitude and enthusiasm.

    I remember living that.

    Best.

    Ron

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ronsonic said:
    Quoted message said:

    Maybe this all sounds awful to some folks, but I still enjoy
    working outdoors, doing physical labour, and being able to ride
    to & from work -- even in the rain, in refrigerator temperatures.

    Hat tip to the healthy attitude and enthusiasm.

    I remember living that.

    Best.

    Thanks, but it's really not all that hard. As Jobst says,
    there are no merit badges for pain & suffering. If a person
    really likes riding, they're going to ride, no matter what.
    And they'll derive painless pleasure from it. I'm already
    just about over my cold, and I attribute my fast recovery in
    large part to the health benefits I've gleaned from regular
    riding. My cold itself didn't have as much to do with riding
    in cold & wet conditions, but in my getting generally run-down
    from under-nourishment.

    I see these posts from people griping about riding in 30's and
    40's (F) temps, and I just don't understand what the problem is.
    As Peter Cole says: "There's no bad weather, just bad clothes."
    Heck, as long as it's not raining or windy, 40's is still
    shirtsleeves weather. If it /is/ raining and/or windy, stuff
    can be worn for it, and it's easily dealt with.

    The other day my supervisor was telling me about how he gets
    all logy and sleepy from his driving commute to work, and has
    to crank down a window to stay awake. I, on the other hand,
    arrive warmed up and rarin' to go. I think he's jealous that
    I get to ride to work.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
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  6. "Tom Keats" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Zoot Katz said:

    I'd prefer a pre-heated mug of
    some smokey black tea, maybe with milk or sugar if its for a boost.

    Yeah, that's the stuff. A good shot of theine itself,
    without sugar, gives me a fair kickstart.

    The "smokey" stuff, like Lapsang Souchong? It's like drinking barbecued
    potato chips. I don't mind a little smoke, but some teas just have too much.

    My favorite winter-time energy drink: hot darjeeling with milk, laced with
    honey. Perfect at mile 15 or mile 50.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    please substitute yahoo for mousepotato to reply
    Home of the meditative cyclist:
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  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Claire Petersky said:


    "Tom Keats" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Zoot Katz said:

    I'd prefer a pre-heated mug of
    some smokey black tea, maybe with milk or sugar if its for a boost.

    Yeah, that's the stuff. A good shot of theine itself,
    without sugar, gives me a fair kickstart.

    The "smokey" stuff, like Lapsang Souchong?

    More the black, than the smokey stuff. Like Darjeeling.
    A small splash of milk in first, no sugar.

    Quoted message said:

    It's like drinking barbecued
    potato chips. I don't mind a little smoke, but some teas just have too much.

    I have to agree with you there. But I find a certain,
    non-overpowering amount of smokeyness adds to the robustness.

    I like Irish Breakfast sometimes, too. But my mainstay is
    still good ol' Ceylon Black tea.

    Quoted message said:

    My favorite winter-time energy drink: hot darjeeling with milk, laced with
    honey. Perfect at mile 15 or mile 50.

    My local supermarket has been selling ginger snaps @ $0.99/box.
    Lovely for tea-dunking. You've just gotta shake the boxes and
    listen for broken cookies before selecting the one to buy.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    -- Nothing is safe from me.
    Above address is just a spam midden.
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  8. [email hidden] (Tom Keats) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ronsonic said:
    Quoted message said:

    Maybe this all sounds awful to some folks, but I still enjoy
    working outdoors, doing physical labour, and being able to ride
    to & from work -- even in the rain, in refrigerator temperatures.

    Hat tip to the healthy attitude and enthusiasm.

    I remember living that.

    Best.

    Thanks, but it's really not all that hard. As Jobst says,
    there are no merit badges for pain & suffering. If a person
    really likes riding, they're going to ride, no matter what.
    And they'll derive painless pleasure from it. I'm already
    just about over my cold, and I attribute my fast recovery in
    large part to the health benefits I've gleaned from regular
    riding. My cold itself didn't have as much to do with riding
    in cold & wet conditions, but in my getting generally run-down
    from under-nourishment.

    I see these posts from people griping about riding in 30's and
    40's (F) temps, and I just don't understand what the problem is.
    As Peter Cole says: "There's no bad weather, just bad clothes."
    Heck, as long as it's not raining or windy, 40's is still
    shirtsleeves weather. If it /is/ raining and/or windy, stuff
    can be worn for it, and it's easily dealt with.

    The other day my supervisor was telling me about how he gets
    all logy and sleepy from his driving commute to work, and has
    to crank down a window to stay awake. I, on the other hand,
    arrive warmed up and rarin' to go. I think he's jealous that
    I get to ride to work.

    There is something nice and healthy-feeling about
    being physically tired at the end of the day.
    In contrast, after spending all day sitting in
    front of a computer monitor, I feel ill.

    I'm due for about 15F tomorrow, with a surface of
    solid ice topped with several inches of snow.
    I'm quite looking forward to it. I think I will
    go with the mountain bike, however.

    Robert

  9. Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:58:48 -0800, <[email hidden]>,

    (Tom Keats) said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Maybe this all sounds awful to some folks, but I still enjoy
    working outdoors, doing physical labour, and being able to ride
    to & from work -- even in the rain, in refrigerator temperatures.

    Hat tip to the healthy attitude and enthusiasm.

    I remember living that.

    Best.

    Thanks, but it's really not all that hard.

    No, but it demands daily recovery, as you've discovered.

    Quoted message said:

    As Jobst says,
    there are no merit badges for pain & suffering. If a person
    really likes riding, they're going to ride, no matter what.
    And they'll derive painless pleasure from it.

    This is somewhat puzzling as lately my favourite bike is the one that
    makes me work harder so I always end up overdressed.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm already
    just about over my cold, and I attribute my fast recovery in
    large part to the health benefits I've gleaned from regular
    riding. My cold itself didn't have as much to do with riding
    in cold & wet conditions, but in my getting generally run-down
    from under-nourishment.


    Garlic sandwiches was what I had for instant recovery today.
    Warmed me from the inside out.

    Quoted message said:

    I see these posts from people griping about riding in 30's and
    40's (F) temps, and I just don't understand what the problem is.
    As Peter Cole says: "There's no bad weather, just bad clothes."
    Heck, as long as it's not raining or windy, 40's is still
    shirtsleeves weather. If it /is/ raining and/or windy, stuff
    can be worn for it, and it's easily dealt with.

    I wore a longsleeve silk undershirt, long sleeve acrylic jersey and a
    tight weave cotton sweater against the wind. Playing polo, I was
    sweating. Just an old pair of chaffed and thinning knickers were
    plenty when I left home. I had a lightly insulated jacket for the
    breaks and the ride home after dark when it was ~35ºF.
    It was a perfect day for riding and for cycle polo.
    --
    zk

  10. Mon, 29 Nov 2004 04:18:10 GMT,
    <[email hidden]>, "Claire

    Petersky said:

    My favorite winter-time energy drink: hot darjeeling with milk, laced with
    honey. Perfect at mile 15 or mile 50.

    Perfect at mile 15 and iced by mile 50.
    --
    zk

  11. Tom Keats said:

    My local supermarket has been selling ginger snaps @ $0.99/box.
    Lovely for tea-dunking. You've just gotta shake the boxes and
    listen for broken cookies before selecting the one to buy.

    Hot tip for cookie lovers -- the 99c and dollar stores in the US seem to carry a
    lot of the best Canadian-made cookies, Rainforest brand, etc. They're better
    than any of the American ones outside of expensive local bakeries, and for $1 an
    incredible deal.

    Matt O.

  12. Matt O'Toole said:

    Hot tip for cookie lovers -- the 99c and dollar stores in the US seem to carry a
    lot of the best Canadian-made cookies, Rainforest brand, etc. They're better
    than any of the American ones outside of expensive local bakeries, and for $1 an
    incredible deal.

    mmmm, canadian candy! coffee crisps, eat mores. worth a trip to canadia
    on its own.
    --
    david reuteler
    [email hidden]

  13. "David Reuteler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Matt O'Toole said:

    Hot tip for cookie lovers -- the 99c and dollar stores in the US seem to carry a
    lot of the best Canadian-made cookies, Rainforest brand, etc. They're better
    than any of the American ones outside of expensive local bakeries, and for $1 an
    incredible deal.

    mmmm, canadian candy! coffee crisps, eat mores. worth a trip to canadia
    on its own.

    OK, that's enough, time to get this thread back on
    the original topic, espresso coffee.

  14. "David Reuteler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Matt O'Toole said:

    Hot tip for cookie lovers -- the 99c and dollar stores in the US seem to


    carry a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lot of the best Canadian-made cookies, Rainforest brand, etc. They're


    better

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    than any of the American ones outside of expensive local bakeries, and


    for $1 an

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    incredible deal.

    mmmm, canadian candy! coffee crisps, eat mores. worth a trip to canadia
    on its own.

    McIntosh toffees, yum.

    I quit sucking my thumb (at about age 6 or 7) by being bribed with Juicy
    Jellies, which were only available on trips up to Vancouver BC. These must
    no longer exist, because when I put "juicy jellies" in google and hit "I'm
    feeling lucky" I got something quite different from the confections of my
    youth.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    please substitute yahoo for mousepotato to reply
    Home of the meditative cyclist:
    http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm
    Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
    See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Claire Petersky said:

    "David Reuteler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Matt O'Toole said:

    Hot tip for cookie lovers -- the 99c and dollar stores in the US seem to


    carry a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lot of the best Canadian-made cookies, Rainforest brand, etc. They're


    better

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    than any of the American ones outside of expensive local bakeries, and


    for $1 an

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    incredible deal.

    mmmm, canadian candy! coffee crisps, eat mores. worth a trip to canadia
    on its own.

    McIntosh toffees, yum.

    The empty box, when blown through, makes a fairly good duck call.

    Quoted message said:

    I quit sucking my thumb (at about age 6 or 7) by being bribed with Juicy
    Jellies, which were only available on trips up to Vancouver BC. These must
    no longer exist, because when I put "juicy jellies" in google and hit "I'm
    feeling lucky" I got something quite different from the confections of my
    youth.

    I really miss Victory V lozenges, which used to be available
    at the candy dep't at the Woodward's Department Store food floor.
    Those horrid, nasty little things taste kind of like boiled
    linseed oil, so they're an acquired taste; I have the misfortune
    of having acquired it.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
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  16. Fri, 3 Dec 2004 20:07:16 -0800, <[email hidden]>,

    (Tom Keats) said:

    I really miss Victory V lozenges, which used to be available
    at the candy dep't at the Woodward's Department Store food floor.
    Those horrid, nasty little things taste kind of like boiled
    linseed oil, so they're an acquired taste; I have the misfortune
    of having acquired it.

    I'd get Y&S Stick Licorice for a sore throat when I was a kid. So,
    I've a perverted love for salty, strong licorice. The Dutch deli was
    between my house and the 29th Ave. Skytrain/ They have a boggling
    selection of surprising kinds of salty licorice you put in paper bags.

    I was over that way the other night so they were closed or I'd have
    stopped for sure. Maybe I'll ride over there after ferrying a bike to
    27th & Elgin later.
    --
    zk

  17. "Zoot Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'd get Y&S Stick Licorice for a sore throat when I was a kid. So,
    I've a perverted love for salty, strong licorice. The Dutch deli was
    between my house and the 29th Ave. Skytrain/ They have a boggling
    selection of surprising kinds of salty licorice you put in paper bags.

    Salty licorice sounds like a great cycling snack. When I was in East Asia,
    many people swore by salted, pickled plums as energy snacks for activities
    like hiking.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    please substitute yahoo for mousepotato to reply
    Home of the meditative cyclist:
    http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm
    Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
    See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

  18. Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:18:23 GMT,
    <[email hidden]>, "Claire Petersky"

    Quoted message said:

    Salty licorice sounds like a great cycling snack. When I was in East Asia,
    many people swore by salted, pickled plums as energy snacks for activities
    like hiking.

    I do too. Two Umeboshi will smarten you right up.
    It has something to do with their alakinizing effect

    They're also used to remedy a hangover.
    --
    zk

  19. "Claire Petersky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Zoot Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'd get Y&S Stick Licorice for a sore throat when I was a kid. So,
    I've a perverted love for salty, strong licorice. The Dutch deli was
    between my house and the 29th Ave. Skytrain/ They have a boggling
    selection of surprising kinds of salty licorice you put in paper bags.

    Salty licorice sounds like a great cycling snack. When I was in East Asia,
    many people swore by salted, pickled plums as energy snacks for activities
    like hiking.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky

    satla fiskar! very tasty indeed, you can get some at hansen's in ballard
    (the stuff at ikea just doesnt stack up...)
    -alan

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