Nice Bike Industry Article

"The bikes that we're putting the Schwinn brand on and selling to
Wal-Mart are absolutely the best bikes that Wal-Mart has ever sold,"
Hornung said.

LOL! ROTFLMAO! I think a plastic Big Wheel lasts longer than one of
those Chinese Tinker Toys.

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TBF::. said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6642037/

Pretty grim, if you don't want to end up working for (and I mean *for*)
WalMart (China Mart?). I stopped shopping there a month ago.

Shawn

Shawn said:

TBF::. said:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6642037/

Pretty grim, if you don't want to end up working for (and I mean *for*)
WalMart (China Mart?). I stopped shopping there a month ago.

Shawn

It's kind of hard not to shop there anymore. It's too damn convenient
when you can walk to one from your house. Need a roll of TP? I'll just
scoot over to Wally World and pick it up. Be back in two minutes. Oh,
while you're there pick up some milk, dog food, and see if you can find
velcro. Just way too easy!

When I was at the CIO conference in Phoenix, I met the CIO of Wally
World. She said that they make so much money that if they were a
country, Walmart would be the fourth richest country in the world. Now
that's scary [censored]. BTW, not only do they bring in junk from China, they
also outsource 95% of there Information Technology development to India,
Pakistan, and yup... China!

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"The bikes that we're putting the Schwinn brand on and selling to Wal-Mart
are absolutely the best bikes that Wal-Mart has ever sold," Hornung said.

Yes they are, but 1% better than absolute [censored] is still [censored].

Pete

And guess who gain the most benefits?
Not Chinese, not American labours...
Yup! capitalists.

Quoted message said:

When I was at the CIO conference in Phoenix, I met the CIO of Wally World.
She said that they make so much money that if they were a country, Walmart
would be the fourth richest country in the world. Now that's scary [censored].
BTW, not only do they bring in junk from China, they also outsource 95% of
there Information Technology development to India, Pakistan, and yup...
China!

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Ride-A-Lot said:

It's kind of hard not to shop there anymore. It's too damn convenient
when you can walk to one from your house. Need a roll of TP? I'll
just scoot over to Wally World and pick it up. Be back in two
minutes. Oh, while you're there pick up some milk, dog food, and see
if you can find velcro. Just way too easy!

When I was at the CIO conference in Phoenix, I met the CIO of Wally
World. She said that they make so much money that if they were a
country, Walmart would be the fourth richest country in the world.
Now that's scary [censored]. BTW, not only do they bring in junk from
China, they also outsource 95% of there Information Technology
development to India, Pakistan, and yup... China!

I live within a dense suburban area, right next to a major airport (not
international, but major) and I'm not within a good 8 miles of a Wally
World. hell, I remember when they built that one about 3 years ago, saw
it pop up out of nowhere when I lived about 2.5 miles from the place.
used to go there occassionally, just to buy half a cart worth of goods
(paper towels, house cleaners, motor oil, cereal...occassionally go by
the hardware aisle) since it happened to be as close as a Tarjay and
wanted to check it out. mostly bought you know, just random
consumables. but hell, I haven't shopped there since I lived that close.

I thought everyone in the world that didn't live in the middle of
nowhere (or right next to a suburban Wal*Mart) shopped at a supermarket
and/or Target pretty much. and frankly I can recall going to said
Wal*Mart one of the three times I ever went there, looking at their
selection of chinese made hammers, and promptly going over to Lowe's by
my work the same week and buying a nicer, American made one for about $5
more. when's the next time I'll need to buy a hammer?? it should last
at least 20+ years from household use, right? might as well make it
count. wouldn't buy a chinese flashlight either. same deal (do Mag
Lites ever really wear out?).

but I was just thinking yesterday, and Target banned Salvation Army from
standing outside their store ringing a bell, depriving them of an
estimated $9M in revenue this year. now that's low..I know I'll see
them standing in front of the supermarket most likely, but still. and
it's not like Target has never [censored] me off from time to time, but it
still beats Wal*Mart and the [censored] they shelve every day. that IT
business only makes it worse.

bri

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green ride said:

And guess who gain the most benefits?
Not Chinese, not American labours...
Yup! capitalists.

I'm sure Wally World hasn't "outsourced" (offshored) all of their
lawyers (legal dept.).... yet.

but you can be sure when they do, a whole lot more people will start to
sit up and take notice.

bri

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green ride said:

And guess who gain the most benefits?
Not Chinese, not American labours...
Yup! capitalists.

Wow there, I have been labelled a commie for using kilometres rather than
miles, with ideas like these you could be the very ghost of Stalin.

DJ

bri719 said:

Ride-A-Lot said:

It's kind of hard not to shop there anymore. It's too damn convenient
when you can walk to one from your house. Need a roll of TP? I'll
just scoot over to Wally World and pick it up. Be back in two
minutes. Oh, while you're there pick up some milk, dog food, and see
if you can find velcro. Just way too easy!

When I was at the CIO conference in Phoenix, I met the CIO of Wally
World. She said that they make so much money that if they were a
country, Walmart would be the fourth richest country in the world.
Now that's scary [censored]. BTW, not only do they bring in junk from
China, they also outsource 95% of there Information Technology
development to India, Pakistan, and yup... China!

I live within a dense suburban area, right next to a major airport (not
international, but major) and I'm not within a good 8 miles of a Wally
World. hell, I remember when they built that one about 3 years ago, saw
it pop up out of nowhere when I lived about 2.5 miles from the place.
used to go there occassionally, just to buy half a cart worth of goods
(paper towels, house cleaners, motor oil, cereal...occassionally go by
the hardware aisle) since it happened to be as close as a Tarjay and
wanted to check it out. mostly bought you know, just random
consumables. but hell, I haven't shopped there since I lived that close.
I thought everyone in the world that didn't live in the middle of
nowhere (or right next to a suburban Wal*Mart) shopped at a supermarket
and/or Target pretty much. and frankly I can recall going to said
Wal*Mart one of the three times I ever went there, looking at their
selection of chinese made hammers, and promptly going over to Lowe's by
my work the same week and buying a nicer, American made one for about $5
more. when's the next time I'll need to buy a hammer?? it should last
at least 20+ years from household use, right? might as well make it
count. wouldn't buy a chinese flashlight either. same deal (do Mag
Lites ever really wear out?).

but I was just thinking yesterday, and Target banned Salvation Army from
standing outside their store ringing a bell, depriving them of an
estimated $9M in revenue this year. now that's low..I know I'll see
them standing in front of the supermarket most likely, but still. and
it's not like Target has never [censored] me off from time to time, but it
still beats Wal*Mart and the [censored] they shelve every day. that IT
business only makes it worse.

bri

Before Target Corporation changed their name, they were Dayton Hudson.
Yes, the same failing high end department store company. Let's face it,
cheap goods (and Target has it's fair share) make money. However,
Target wants to have their cake and eat it too. They are trying to
position themselves above Walmart. Charities pandering for money send a
seedy message in their eyes.

When it comes to clothing and hard goods, I want to make sure they will
last me a while. I would take a good German made Bosch drill over a
Black and Sucker (I mean Decker) any day. I have no problem spending a
few more $$$ for something that will last me a bit longer.
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Ride-A-Lot said:

Before Target Corporation changed their name, they were Dayton Hudson.
Yes, the same failing high end department store company. Let's face
it, cheap goods (and Target has it's fair share) make money. However,
Target wants to have their cake and eat it too. They are trying to
position themselves above Walmart. Charities pandering for money send
a seedy message in their eyes.

When it comes to clothing and hard goods, I want to make sure they
will last me a while. I would take a good German made Bosch drill
over a Black and Sucker (I mean Decker) any day. I have no problem
spending a few more $$$ for something that will last me a bit longer.

yeah true. FWIW no Dayton-Hudson here but sure I've heard of 'em
(aren't Hudson's still open in the Midwest somewhere? I guess it would
be the equivalent of our Robinson's May or something, maybe not quite a
Nordstrom's but close). as for Tarjay, I don't buy many clothes there
but for toiletries and most consumables it's a good place. my sister
works for them by the way but I'd long been a shopper there before that
ever happened. Wal-Mart just has a certain suckiness to it. the fact
that they'd be able to sucker some formerly prestigious U.S. bicycle
name brand into making Chinese bicycles and slapping their name on the
side to help the retailer make a few hundred mil more this year and into
the future doesn't surprise me in the least.

bri

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green ride said:

And guess who gain the most benefits?
Not Chinese, not American labours...
Yup! capitalists.

Quoted message said:

When I was at the CIO conference in Phoenix, I met the CIO of Wally World.
She said that they make so much money that if they were a country, Walmart
would be the fourth richest country in the world. Now that's scary [censored].
BTW, not only do they bring in junk from China, they also outsource 95% of
there Information Technology development to India, Pakistan, and yup...
China!

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[censored] you top posting commie. :-)
If thet were true the stockmarket wouldn't have been in the toilet that
past four years.

Shawn

It's true that the U.S. economy isn't doing well, and the reasons can be
complicated. I'm not going into that. Overall, this is the group for MTB
lovers.
Think twice, if it's not capitalists, who else? Don't tell me the Chinese
workers gain the most benefit, when the average wage in Shanghai is less
than 100 U.S. per month. We are talking about Shanghai, the most well-paid
region in China.

Quoted message said:

[censored] you top posting commie. :-)
If thet were true the stockmarket wouldn't have been in the toilet that
past four years.

Shawn

green ride said:

It's true that the U.S. economy isn't doing well, and the reasons can be
complicated. I'm not going into that.

damn...tell that to the retailers this Xmas I guess! they'll be
laughing all the way to the bank, for sure.

bri

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bri719 said:

Ride-A-Lot said:

It's kind of hard not to shop there anymore. It's too damn convenient
when you can walk to one from your house. Need a roll of TP? I'll
just scoot over to Wally World and pick it up. Be back in two
minutes. Oh, while you're there pick up some milk, dog food, and see
if you can find velcro. Just way too easy!

When I was at the CIO conference in Phoenix, I met the CIO of Wally
World. She said that they make so much money that if they were a
country, Walmart would be the fourth richest country in the world.
Now that's scary [censored]. BTW, not only do they bring in junk from
China, they also outsource 95% of there Information Technology
development to India, Pakistan, and yup... China!

I live within a dense suburban area, right next to a major airport (not
international, but major) and I'm not within a good 8 miles of a Wally
World. hell, I remember when they built that one about 3 years ago, saw
it pop up out of nowhere when I lived about 2.5 miles from the place.
used to go there occassionally, just to buy half a cart worth of goods
(paper towels, house cleaners, motor oil, cereal...occassionally go by
the hardware aisle) since it happened to be as close as a Tarjay and
wanted to check it out. mostly bought you know, just random
consumables. but hell, I haven't shopped there since I lived that close.
I thought everyone in the world that didn't live in the middle of
nowhere (or right next to a suburban Wal*Mart) shopped at a supermarket
and/or Target pretty much. and frankly I can recall going to said
Wal*Mart one of the three times I ever went there, looking at their
selection of chinese made hammers, and promptly going over to Lowe's by
my work the same week and buying a nicer, American made one for about $5
more. when's the next time I'll need to buy a hammer?? it should last
at least 20+ years from household use, right? might as well make it
count. wouldn't buy a chinese flashlight either. same deal (do Mag
Lites ever really wear out?).

but I was just thinking yesterday, and Target banned Salvation Army from
standing outside their store ringing a bell, depriving them of an
estimated $9M in revenue this year. now that's low..I know I'll see
them standing in front of the supermarket most likely, but still. and
it's not like Target has never [censored] me off from time to time, but it
still beats Wal*Mart and the [censored] they shelve every day. that IT
business only makes it worse.

bri

Before Target Corporation changed their name, they were Dayton Hudson.
Yes, the same failing high end department store company. Let's face it,
cheap goods (and Target has it's fair share) make money. However,
Target wants to have their cake and eat it too. They are trying to
position themselves above Walmart. Charities pandering for money send a
seedy message in their eyes.

When it comes to clothing and hard goods, I want to make sure they will
last me a while. I would take a good German made Bosch drill over a
Black and Sucker (I mean Decker) any day. I have no problem spending a
few more $$$ for something that will last me a bit longer.

Is that the Bosch drill made in Switzerland with the battery made
in Mexico, and the battery charger made in China? Or is that the
new Bosch drill that is entirely made in China but still priced as if
it was made elsewhere?

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Quoted message said:

bri719 said:

Ride-A-Lot wrote:

>It's kind of hard not to shop there anymore. It's too damn convenient
>when you can walk to one from your house. Need a roll of TP? I'll
>just scoot over to Wally World and pick it up. Be back in two
>minutes. Oh, while you're there pick up some milk, dog food, and see
>if you can find velcro. Just way too easy!
>
>When I was at the CIO conference in Phoenix, I met the CIO of Wally
>World. She said that they make so much money that if they were a
>country, Walmart would be the fourth richest country in the world.
>Now that's scary [censored]. BTW, not only do they bring in junk from
>China, they also outsource 95% of there Information Technology
>development to India, Pakistan, and yup... China!

I live within a dense suburban area, right next to a major airport (not
international, but major) and I'm not within a good 8 miles of a Wally
World. hell, I remember when they built that one about 3 years ago, saw
it pop up out of nowhere when I lived about 2.5 miles from the place.
used to go there occassionally, just to buy half a cart worth of goods
(paper towels, house cleaners, motor oil, cereal...occassionally go by
the hardware aisle) since it happened to be as close as a Tarjay and
wanted to check it out. mostly bought you know, just random
consumables. but hell, I haven't shopped there since I lived that close.
I thought everyone in the world that didn't live in the middle of
nowhere (or right next to a suburban Wal*Mart) shopped at a supermarket
and/or Target pretty much. and frankly I can recall going to said
Wal*Mart one of the three times I ever went there, looking at their
selection of chinese made hammers, and promptly going over to Lowe's by
my work the same week and buying a nicer, American made one for about $5
more. when's the next time I'll need to buy a hammer?? it should last
at least 20+ years from household use, right? might as well make it
count. wouldn't buy a chinese flashlight either. same deal (do Mag
Lites ever really wear out?).

but I was just thinking yesterday, and Target banned Salvation Army from
standing outside their store ringing a bell, depriving them of an
estimated $9M in revenue this year. now that's low..I know I'll see
them standing in front of the supermarket most likely, but still. and
it's not like Target has never [censored] me off from time to time, but it
still beats Wal*Mart and the [censored] they shelve every day. that IT
business only makes it worse.

bri

Before Target Corporation changed their name, they were Dayton Hudson.
Yes, the same failing high end department store company. Let's face it,
cheap goods (and Target has it's fair share) make money. However,
Target wants to have their cake and eat it too. They are trying to
position themselves above Walmart. Charities pandering for money send a
seedy message in their eyes.

When it comes to clothing and hard goods, I want to make sure they will
last me a while. I would take a good German made Bosch drill over a
Black and Sucker (I mean Decker) any day. I have no problem spending a
few more $$$ for something that will last me a bit longer.

Is that the Bosch drill made in Switzerland with the battery made
in Mexico, and the battery charger made in China? Or is that the
new Bosch drill that is entirely made in China but still priced as if
it was made elsewhere?

Don't tell me that sold out too! Oh the humanity! Milwaukee drills are
still made in Germany (at least mine was).

We're all doomed! I better start learning Mandarin.

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Ride-A-Lot said:

We're all doomed! I better start learning Mandarin.

Talk about noise polution! That's one language that I have to avoid
listening to. It's like fingernails on a chalk board (if that bothered me).

The Mandarin speaking probably think the same about amereecun (so I wouldn't
offend the Brits and other english speaking....)

Gary (the bio-freeze arrived!)

Ride-A-Lot says...

Quoted message said:

Don't tell me that sold out too! Oh the humanity! Milwaukee drills are
still made in Germany (at least mine was).

We're all doomed! I better start learning Mandarin.

That may actually be easier than having them try to learn English. Some
Chinese immigrants here have a remarkable immunity to speaking and
comprehending English. Some of them are smart, educated and been here
for years, but trying to communicate with them is simply impossible.

Quoted message said:

That may actually be easier than having them try to learn English. Some
Chinese immigrants here have a remarkable immunity to speaking and
comprehending English. Some of them are smart, educated and been here
for years, but trying to communicate with them is simply impossible.

Why bother, give it 50 years the chinese will be running the world
anyway and it will be those of european and african descent trying to
learn their language if they want to get on. Perhaps a whole load of
us will end up emigrating to china and setting up euro or usa style
restaurants/takeaways over there.

Martin Wilson says...

Quoted message said:

Why bother, give it 50 years the chinese will be running the world
anyway and it will be those of european and african descent trying to
learn their language if they want to get on. Perhaps a whole load of
us will end up emigrating to china and setting up euro or usa style
restaurants/takeaways over there.

Not if they don't obtain some political skills. Their government will be
the stone around their neck that will allow them to progress only so
far. They have great growth now, but they have nowhere to go but up. It
won't be long before something bad happens over there that will bring
the whole thing to a screeching halt, for example, China trying to take
possession of Taiwan.