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  1. Vitamins A and D are toxic at high levels. You can take megadoses of C and
    E. Too much C just causes diarhea as your system flushes out the excess. You
    could use this as a natural laxative to keep the colon clean. Large doses of
    C have very good health effects: stronger heart, slowing down aging, more
    collagin for firmer skin, less colesterol build up on veins, higher immune
    system to fight disease, natural antihistimine to prevent running nose,
    megadosing on C is a strong viruscide to kill viruses. I don't know if very
    large doses of E are toxic, however I do know that large doses can be taken
    regularly and it only helps you. However, it does increase the male sex
    drive subsantially, it is the virility vitamin. I don't know if there is a
    limit on taking E. I have been taking 3200 iu of E per day for years and it
    didn't hurt me. I use it to slow down aging which it does very well. C is
    water soluble, E is soluble in oil; putting antiaging vitamins in the watery
    and oil parts of my body. I post under the name antiaging; I am 52 years old
    and I have a body like a man in his early 20s. I look about 17 on my
    driver's licensce photo. Never had crows feet wrinkles around the eyes. I
    started megadosing on vitamins to fight aging in 1973. I could be the best
    in the world at fighting aging at this time. It looked like I was actually
    getting younger over the past 8 years, But I take huge doses of vitamins and
    calcium to accomplish this. [A, C, E, calcium, stresstabs containing the B
    complex vitamins and a high protein diet to slow down aging.] Also some
    selenium, bioflavinoids, magnesium, zinc, generally anything that boosts the
    immune system will fight aging. I believe the immune system can be boosted
    so high that it will actually heal aging and cause a person to slowly and
    gradually get younger. I have seen sagging around the chin and under the
    eyes go away and my nose seemed to turn up more; my hair is slowly growing
    back. Young people move fast and think fast. I practice martial arts and
    this has greatly increased my speed of thinking, moving and flexibility.

    Herbs

    Main immune boosting herb is echinacea. Gotu Kola causes more blood to flow
    to the brain and has been proven to increase the Intelligence Quoteint IQ of
    test subjects. Eyebrite causes more blood flow to the eyes and regulates
    fluid pressure in the eyes preventing age related eye problems; it makes you
    see more clearly too. You should also try to get about 8 hours sleep per
    day, because human growth harmone needed for cell division is mostly
    produced when you sleep. Immune system is highest during sleep. Lots of
    water should be drunk before bed. Caffeine helps to clean the products of
    cell funcion out of the blood faster by increasing kidney funcion. [The
    vitamins clean the cells faster and the caffeine cleans the cell wastes out
    of the blood faster. Clean cells do not slow down the rate of the cell
    divisions, so you don't get old.] [Aging is caused by background radiation
    acting on oxidation products in the cells and changing them to free
    radicals. Free radical damage causes cell divisions to slow down; this
    causes aging. Antioxidant vitamins, megadoses, can clean the oxidation
    products out of the cell so fast that the cell divisions don't slow down,
    and hence, no aging.] Do you understand what I am trying to say?

    These are results of over 31 years of my personal research, my own body
    being the ginny pig for testing on.

    Read the book of Genesis in the Bible. Methuselah was supposed to have lived
    969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark. I
    suspect they may have been processing vitamins out of foods, something that
    modern science only rediscovered in the last 150 years; megadosing on
    vitamins only started around 1969 with Linus Pauling.

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  2. stone wrote:
    .... I post under the name antiaging; I am 52 years old

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    and I have a body like a man in his early 20s. I look about 17 on my
    driver's licensce photo....

    and you spell like a 5 year old.

  3. An inspiring post, even if it lacks some credibility.

    "stone" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Vitamins A and D are toxic at high levels. You can take megadoses of C and
    E. Too much C just causes diarhea as your system flushes out the excess.


    You

    Quoted message said:

    could use this as a natural laxative to keep the colon clean. Large doses


    of

    Quoted message said:

    C have very good health effects: stronger heart, slowing down aging, more
    collagin for firmer skin, less colesterol build up on veins, higher immune
    system to fight disease, natural antihistimine to prevent running nose,
    megadosing on C is a strong viruscide to kill viruses. I don't know if


    very

    Quoted message said:

    large doses of E are toxic, however I do know that large doses can be


    taken

    Quoted message said:

    regularly and it only helps you. However, it does increase the male sex
    drive subsantially, it is the virility vitamin. I don't know if there is a
    limit on taking E. I have been taking 3200 iu of E per day for years and


    it

    Quoted message said:

    didn't hurt me. I use it to slow down aging which it does very well. C is
    water soluble, E is soluble in oil; putting antiaging vitamins in the


    watery

    Quoted message said:

    and oil parts of my body. I post under the name antiaging; I am 52 years


    old

    Quoted message said:

    and I have a body like a man in his early 20s. I look about 17 on my
    driver's licensce photo. Never had crows feet wrinkles around the eyes. I
    started megadosing on vitamins to fight aging in 1973. I could be the best
    in the world at fighting aging at this time. It looked like I was actually
    getting younger over the past 8 years, But I take huge doses of vitamins


    and

    Quoted message said:

    calcium to accomplish this. [A, C, E, calcium, stresstabs containing the B
    complex vitamins and a high protein diet to slow down aging.] Also some
    selenium, bioflavinoids, magnesium, zinc, generally anything that boosts


    the

    Quoted message said:

    immune system will fight aging. I believe the immune system can be boosted
    so high that it will actually heal aging and cause a person to slowly and
    gradually get younger. I have seen sagging around the chin and under the
    eyes go away and my nose seemed to turn up more; my hair is slowly growing
    back. Young people move fast and think fast. I practice martial arts and
    this has greatly increased my speed of thinking, moving and flexibility.

    Herbs

    Main immune boosting herb is echinacea. Gotu Kola causes more blood to


    flow

    Quoted message said:

    to the brain and has been proven to increase the Intelligence Quoteint IQ


    of

    Quoted message said:

    test subjects. Eyebrite causes more blood flow to the eyes and regulates
    fluid pressure in the eyes preventing age related eye problems; it makes


    you

    Quoted message said:

    see more clearly too. You should also try to get about 8 hours sleep per
    day, because human growth harmone needed for cell division is mostly
    produced when you sleep. Immune system is highest during sleep. Lots of
    water should be drunk before bed. Caffeine helps to clean the products of
    cell funcion out of the blood faster by increasing kidney funcion. [The
    vitamins clean the cells faster and the caffeine cleans the cell wastes


    out

    Quoted message said:

    of the blood faster. Clean cells do not slow down the rate of the cell
    divisions, so you don't get old.] [Aging is caused by background radiation
    acting on oxidation products in the cells and changing them to free
    radicals. Free radical damage causes cell divisions to slow down; this
    causes aging. Antioxidant vitamins, megadoses, can clean the oxidation
    products out of the cell so fast that the cell divisions don't slow down,
    and hence, no aging.] Do you understand what I am trying to say?

    These are results of over 31 years of my personal research, my own body
    being the ginny pig for testing on.

    Read the book of Genesis in the Bible. Methuselah was supposed to have


    lived

    Quoted message said:

    969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark. I
    suspect they may have been processing vitamins out of foods, something


    that

    Quoted message said:

    modern science only rediscovered in the last 150 years; megadosing on
    vitamins only started around 1969 with Linus Pauling.


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  4. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

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    and you spell like a 5 year old.

    and you have the emotional maturity of a 13 year old boy

  5. Succorso wrote in message ...

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    stone wrote:
    ... I post under the name antiaging; I am 52 years old

    Quoted message said:

    and I have a body like a man in his early 20s. I look about 17 on my
    driver's licensce photo....

    and you spell like a 5 year old.

    I corrected the spelling in alt.religion.christian.baptist under the title
    of "trying to prove genesis ages true". I also added more to it.

    Here is a response I made to one of the objections I got:

    .. People that had those short life spans from
    premature aging are people that had bad nutrition and were overworked,
    without enough sleep, so there bodies wore down, did not regenerate properly
    and they aged fast. Robert Ripley, of Ripley's believe it or not fame, is an
    example of this. Overwork, bad nutrition, caused him to have the body of an
    85 year old man when he was still in his 40s, and he died in his 40s.
    Look at that post by Chris, above. Ancient writings from China showed people
    to have normal life spans, (around 70 years or so) as far back as 5000 years
    ago.
    I have also seen this uninformed error put out by the American Medical
    association on TV that life spans were only 33 aroung the time of the
    Romans. This is bunk. There error seems to come from a false premise, that
    since the life span in America, in the 1800s was only around 43 and the
    lifespan now is around 73, that lifespans have been gradually increasing
    with the advancing of society with time. So if you follow this false
    assumption back into the past, then the life span must have been shorter.
    This is false.
    People in America in the 1800s had bad nutrition in the cities, and they
    were doing 60 hour work weeks, and they aged fast because of this. The labor
    laws to protect them from forced overtime were not there yet. Because food
    is stored in the cities for weeks, in super markets, the vitamin content
    goes down by the time the people eat it.
    Life span is longer now because of vitamin enriched foods, and vitamin
    supplements and a 40 hour work week. In ancient China the food was freshed
    killed meat, and freshly caught fish, and fresh vegetables right from the
    fields; these types of food are loaded with vitamins, so people lived
    longer. There is a recorded story of a guy in England, around the 1400
    hundreds or so, that lived over 150 years. He was a former and got his food
    fresh from the field, and had fresh meat from hunting, loaded with vitamins.
    He said he ate oatmeal in the morning, bread in the afternoon and meat and
    potatos at night. The king heard about how old he was and took him to live
    in London. When he started eating the kings food, he died within a few short
    months. This is recorded in English history.
    Aging for men even 3000 years ago, would be slower if the food was fresh
    from the fields and fresh killed meat which is loaded with vitamins. Moses,
    Jacob, Abraham all lived well over a hundred. There is a farming community
    in Russia right now where people regularly live over a hundred and it has
    been that way for a long long time. Women in their 80s work the fields
    there. Aging depends on how you treat your body. How much nutrition and how
    much sleep you get.

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  6. Cause of aging is the loss of telomerase on chromosomes. Proper nutrition is
    probably necessary to prevent this, but specific organs can lose telomerase
    also instead of uniform loss in all cells. Probably a certain sequence of
    mutations leads to this loss; aging occurs a different rates in each organ.
    Undoubtedly, stress complicates the problem due to release of deleterious
    hormones.

    FredW

  7. stone said:

    Vitamins A and D are toxic at high levels.

    Only when consumed in pills.

    These vitamins when consumed as real foods like fish liver or cow liver
    can be consumed in higher levels without such toxicity.

    TC

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    stone said:

    Vitamins A and D are toxic at high levels.

    Only when consumed in pills.

    These vitamins when consumed as real foods like fish liver or cow
    liver
    can be consumed in higher levels without such toxicity.

    Hmmm yummy. Do you sprinkle the contents of your vacuum cleaner bag to
    leech out the toxic "stuff" the liver collects. I would trust a pill
    long before organ meat.

    -DF

  9. Doug Freese said:

    "TC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    stone said:

    Vitamins A and D are toxic at high levels.

    Only when consumed in pills.

    These vitamins when consumed as real foods like fish liver or cow
    liver
    can be consumed in higher levels without such toxicity.

    Hmmm yummy. Do you sprinkle the contents of your vacuum cleaner bag


    to

    Quoted message said:

    leech out the toxic "stuff" the liver collects. I would trust a pill

    Quoted message said:

    long before organ meat.

    -DF

    http://www.nutritiondata.com

    Beef Liver

    "This food is low in Sodium. It is also a good source of Iron and Zinc,
    and a very good source of Protein, Vitamin A, Riboflavin, Niacin,
    Vitamin B6, Folate, Vitamin B12, Pantothenic Acid, Phosphorus, Copper
    and Selenium."

    Loads of nutrition in beef liver and it tastes pretty darned good in
    the hands of an excellent cook such as myself.

    Cod liver oil capsules are easily purchased almost anywhere and deliver
    excellent vitamin a and d without any toxicity issues.

    TC

  10. "TC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    http://www.nutritiondata.com

    Beef Liver

    "This food is low in Sodium. It is also a good source of Iron and
    Zinc,
    and a very good source of Protein, Vitamin A, Riboflavin, Niacin,
    Vitamin B6, Folate, Vitamin B12, Pantothenic Acid, Phosphorus, Copper
    and Selenium."

    Loads of nutrition in beef liver and it tastes pretty darned good in
    the hands of an excellent cook such as myself.

    I agree completely with the value of the contents and I was many years
    ago a big fan of calves liver. OTOH, since the liver is a glorified
    filter we have no idea what else is trapped in the layers. And knowing
    that commercial farms feed their animals some unscrupulous "stuff" to
    make them grow rapidly, I'm not eating that filter. It's a risk that I
    choose not to take.

    -DF

  11. I believe the loss of telomeres is normal. Stopping the loss with
    telomerase may lead to cancers due to the cell's immortality.

    "FREDWELFARE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Cause of aging is the loss of telomerase on chromosomes. Proper nutrition


    is

    Quoted message said:

    probably necessary to prevent this, but specific organs can lose


    telomerase

    Quoted message said:

    also instead of uniform loss in all cells. Probably a certain sequence of
    mutations leads to this loss; aging occurs a different rates in each


    organ.

    Quoted message said:

    Undoubtedly, stress complicates the problem due to release of deleterious
    hormones.

    FredW

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