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Re: HNY - and Hi

JC Der Koenig · 2005-01-01T21:28:23+00:00

Read the FAQ. -- Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW -- "Perdu Conundrum" wrote in message news:[email hidden]... Happy New Year, everyone. My first post here, while coincides with the 1st day of 2005, is simply coincidental. I'm on day 3 of induction. Atkins style. Weight 285. Height 6'4". Total cholesterol - 116 Triglycerides - 264 HDL - 24 LDL - 39 Got type II Diabetes and High blood pressure, which is now controlled by medication. But not the blood sugar. This is another good reason to low-carb. It fits me well. I do not like sweets. I would rather eat ham and cheese than bread. Although, I do like bread as well but I can manage without it.. So it does fit. I had decided to deal with my weight. Again. I had lost weight before on a loosely based Atkins diet, but more like a combination of Atkins, Protein Power and Neanderthin. Worked well, for the most part. That was then, and this is now. It has been many years. Ponds gradually came back. I was at 240 or so at my lowest. I had lost the memory to many of the questions I have and I'm in the process of reading up on the subject heavily. But this group is like instant gratification. People with experienced answers. Points and counterpoints. So I thought after reading the group for a while that I plunge in. Most of the questions are documented. But if they were all that clear, I'd not be posting. So for the questions.. 1 - I read people say their blood sugar had plunged to normal on induction. Mine has not. It is up there around 200 and higher. I am taking Glyburide. 10mg in the morning. It used to work. Not anymore. Been on Glucophage. It was as useful as [censored] on Ernest Borgnine. So. Why am I not showing improvement? Is a high spike normal on induction? 2 - Should I even care about the Ketone sticks not showing but a MAYBE trace? Is it too early? Once they do show: does it matter to monitor, or just enjoy the weight loss.? 3 - Zero Carb, or 20 daily? Heard it both ways. Zero is bad. Gotto have "something" or things won't work. Should I just avoid it altogether, or do use the 20 allowed for the system to be sound chemically? 4 - I don't want to lose muscle. What exercise? Aerobic, like pound your heart? Or Weight. Yoga? (I HATE exercise. I live in my head. I just visit the physical world🙂 5 - Vitamins? Fish oil? Multi? Fiber? Flax seed? Psyllium? Absinthe? (That one is a joke.) 6 - What behaviors to develop. How to monitor progress. And NOT to over monitor. 7 - I don't have a scale. Does it matter? Some more are coming. As it is - so far so good. Many thanks, Steve

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JC Der Koenig
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1 January 2005, 21:28 UTC #1

Read the FAQ.
--
Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW
--
"Perdu Conundrum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:

Happy New Year, everyone.
My first post here, while coincides with the 1st day of 2005, is simply
coincidental.
I'm on day 3 of induction. Atkins style.
Weight 285. Height 6'4".
Total cholesterol - 116
Triglycerides - 264
HDL - 24
LDL - 39
Got type II Diabetes and High blood pressure, which is now controlled by
medication. But not the blood sugar. This is another good reason to
low-carb. It fits me well. I do not like sweets. I would rather eat ham
and
cheese than bread. Although, I do like bread as well but I can manage
without it.. So it does fit.
I had decided to deal with my weight. Again. I had lost weight before on
a loosely based Atkins diet, but more like a combination of Atkins,
Protein
Power and Neanderthin. Worked well, for the most part. That was then, and
this is now. It has been many years. Ponds gradually came back. I was at
240 or so at my lowest.
I had lost the memory to many of the questions I have and I'm in the
process of reading up on the subject heavily. But this group is like
instant gratification. People with experienced answers. Points and
counterpoints. So I thought after reading the group for a while that I
plunge in. Most of the questions are documented. But if they were all that
clear, I'd not be posting. So for the questions..
1 - I read people say their blood sugar had plunged to normal on
induction. Mine has not. It is up there around 200 and higher. I am taking
Glyburide. 10mg in the morning. It used to work. Not anymore. Been on
Glucophage. It was as useful as [censored] on Ernest Borgnine. So. Why am I not
showing improvement? Is a high spike normal on induction?
2 - Should I even care about the Ketone sticks not showing but a MAYBE
trace? Is it too early? Once they do show: does it matter to monitor, or
just enjoy the weight loss.?
3 - Zero Carb, or 20 daily? Heard it both ways. Zero is bad. Gotto have
"something" or things won't work. Should I just avoid it altogether, or do
use the 20 allowed for the system to be sound chemically?
4 - I don't want to lose muscle. What exercise? Aerobic, like pound your
heart? Or Weight. Yoga? (I HATE exercise. I live in my head. I just visit
the physical world🙂
5 - Vitamins? Fish oil? Multi? Fiber? Flax seed? Psyllium? Absinthe? (That
one is a joke.)
6 - What behaviors to develop. How to monitor progress. And NOT to over
monitor.
7 - I don't have a scale. Does it matter?
Some more are coming. As it is - so far so good.
Many thanks,
Steve

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JC Der Koenig
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2 January 2005, 00:49 UTC #2

"Perdu Conundrum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 21:28:23 GMT, "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]>
Cried out loud... :
Quoted message said:
Read the FAQ.
--
Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW
I had read the FAQ. I am asking for experiences of different people. Your
input is noted. "Eat less, exercise more." Sounds very learned.

Reading the FAQ, eating less, and exercising more are all elegant in their
simplicity. A learned person would be able to discern that.

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JC Der Koenig
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2 January 2005, 03:36 UTC #3

If you're already so smart and such an expert on weight loss and fitness,
why are you still so fat?
--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW
"Perdu Conundrum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 00:49:29 GMT, "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]>
Cried out loud... :
Quoted message said:
"Perdu Conundrum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 21:28:23 GMT, "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]>
Cried out loud... :
> Read the FAQ.
>
> --
>
> Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW
I had read the FAQ. I am asking for experiences of different people.
Your
input is noted. "Eat less, exercise more." Sounds very learned.

Reading the FAQ, eating less, and exercising more are all elegant in
their
simplicity. A learned person would be able to discern that.
Thank you for your responses so far. You are kind of hinting that a person
who needs to connect with other people who had selected the same type of
diet, should not post. They should read the FAQ. Then shut the heck up.
You suggest eating less and exercising more. You appear to have a very
firm grasp on the obvious. This suggestion is right up there with wipe,
after you [censored]. And don't forget to breath, or you will suffocate. Warm?
Turn on the AC. Cold? Put on a jacket.
If this is what you mean by what a "Learned" person should understand,
then you have severe limitations beyond simple existence.
This is unless I had misunderstood your intentions on telling someone you
do not know to - Learn. I have every intention to do so. Most of what I
will hear from people, will be also obvious. Their support, and experience
is what I'm here for. Nobody knows everything. Other people had answered -
Big thank you! And made me feel very welcome and seems they "had been
there, done that." That's what I'm here for.
So kind Sir, once again, thank you. But if you cannot cough up something
just a bit more informative, you will not be much help. One wonders what
drives a person to inform the world that the sky is blue.
Best Regards,
Steve

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Fred
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2 January 2005, 04:15 UTC #4

Please don't respond to JC. Instead, block his posts and delete any
that were not blocked.
He is a worthless scum of a human being.
Fred
Perdu Conundrum said:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 21:28:23 GMT, "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]>
Cried out loud... :
Quoted message said:
Read the FAQ.
--
Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW
I had read the FAQ. I am asking for experiences of different people. Your
input is noted. "Eat less, exercise more." Sounds very learned.
And a hearty big WELCOME to you too🙂
Happy New Year
Steve

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JC Der Koenig
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2 January 2005, 04:27 UTC #5

Wow. Another fatbody that can't handle the truth.
--
Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen
"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:

Please don't respond to JC. Instead, block his posts and delete any
that were not blocked.
He is a worthless scum of a human being.
Fred
Perdu Conundrum said:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 21:28:23 GMT, "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]>
Cried out loud... :
Quoted message said:
Read the FAQ.
--
Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW
I had read the FAQ. I am asking for experiences of different people.
Your
input is noted. "Eat less, exercise more." Sounds very learned.
And a hearty big WELCOME to you too🙂
Happy New Year
Steve

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Bunky42
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2 January 2005, 11:46 UTC #6

JC Der Koenig said:
Wow. Another fatbody that can't handle the truth.

More likely just another person tired of your people skills or lack of
them. People don't mind the truth, it's the way you present your
information. That's why your known as the "troll". I don't imagine you
talk to your friends and family the way you talk to people in this NG.
Maybe you have and don't have friends and family anymore. Being
condescending isn't the best way to get your ideas across. Don't worry,
when you grow up, you will eventually figure it out.

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JC Der Koenig
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2 January 2005, 14:44 UTC #7

If you'd do some research and listen, you might learn to lose some fat.
But you were born fat and stupid. So be it.
--
Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen
"Perdu Conundrum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 03:36:47 GMT, "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]>
Cried out loud... :
Quoted message said:
If you're already so smart and such an expert on weight loss and fitness,
why are you still so fat?
Same reason you're such a [censored]. Born that way.
Does it hurt to be you?
Have a nice day! And -- G'bye!

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JC Der Koenig
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2 January 2005, 14:45 UTC #8

Wow. Another fatbody that can't handle the truth.
--
Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen
"Bunky42" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:VaRBd.42410$Cl3.32086@fed1read03...
Quoted message said:
JC Der Koenig said:
Wow. Another fatbody that can't handle the truth.

More likely just another person tired of your people skills or lack of
them. People don't mind the truth, it's the way you present your
information. That's why your known as the "troll". I don't imagine you
talk to your friends and family the way you talk to people in this NG.
Maybe you have and don't have friends and family anymore. Being
condescending isn't the best way to get your ideas across. Don't worry,
when you grow up, you will eventually figure it out.

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Patricia
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2 January 2005, 14:55 UTC #9

JC Der Koenig said:
Wow. Another fatbody that can't handle the truth.

------------
Happy NY to all of you....
I wish you all great success in all your efforts.
Only resolution I have is to keep it off. ;-)
Patricia
157/120/117
Started 1/29/03
Below goal since 7/29/03

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Bunky42
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2 January 2005, 22:18 UTC #10

JC Der Koenig said:
Wow. Another fatbody that can't handle the truth.
I think you are the one who can't handle the truth. I know and
understand my faults. You are the one who can't accept your faults. Work
on your people skills and people may actually start to like you someday.

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revek
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2 January 2005, 23:13 UTC #11

Bunky42 said:
JC Der Koenig said:
Wow. Another fatbody that can't handle the truth.
I think you are the one who can't handle the truth. I know and
understand my faults. You are the one who can't accept your faults.
Work on your people skills and people may actually start to like you
someday.
I like the cantankerous ole fart just fine. You however, are getting on my
nerves.
--
revek
I have a firm grip on reality. Now I can strangle it.

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Xtile
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3 January 2005, 06:04 UTC #13

Fred said:

You and your daughter are [censored] who don't deserve to live.
Fred
Come on Fred, tell us how you "really" feel!

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Carmen
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4 January 2005, 14:48 UTC #14

Fred said:
You and your daughter are [censored] who don't deserve to live.
Fred
Holy [censored] Fred! You have some nerve judging JC's posts on the one
hand and then writing this stuff.
Yuck, again.
Carmen

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revek
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6 January 2005, 04:02 UTC #15

Perdu Conundrum said:
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:48:54 GMT, "Carmen" <[email hidden]>
Cried out loud... :
Quoted message said:

Fred said:
You and your daughter are [censored] who don't deserve to live.
Fred
Holy [censored] Fred! You have some nerve judging JC's posts on the one
hand and then writing this stuff.
Yuck, again.
Carmen
And to think, all I said was "Hi!"
Hi back atcha.
Don't sweat it. 🙂
--
revek
Promotional Fee Paid By: "Ouchies!", The sharp, prickly toy you bathe
with.

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Carmen
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6 January 2005, 17:44 UTC #16

Hello,
On 5-Jan-2005, Perdu Conundrum <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:48:54 GMT, "Carmen" <[email hidden]>
Cried
out loud... :
Quoted message said:

Fred said:
You and your daughter are [censored] who don't deserve to live.
Fred
Holy [censored] Fred! You have some nerve judging JC's posts on the one
hand and then writing this stuff.
Yuck, again.
Carmen
And to think, all I said was "Hi!"
But it's the *way* you said it. <BG>
Welcome anyway Mr. Troublemaker,
Carmen

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