Re: Question about Ice Tea

In article <[email hidden]>,

GQ said:

Bev-Ann said:

They are allowed to list 0 carbs on food labels when it is less than 1 gram
so go by what is in your carb counter. Tea and coffee both have 0.8g
carbs/cup according to the USDA.

GQ said:

OK, on my box of tea bags it says 0 carbs but in the carb counter by
Atkins it says that there is .7 carbs in 8 oz. Which one is correct
and which one should I go by. I am on induction so this really makes a
difference. ;-)

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Bev

One other question if you don't mind, but this one is about avocados.
The carb counter just mentions half an avocado but it doesn't say the
size, like in weight. I have seen some really large avocados out
there, but most around here are usually on the smallish side I would
say. If a supermarket doesn't say if it is a Florida or a California
Haas one then how do we tell the difference? The ones in the market
now say Chile and I am just assuming that they mean it comes from
Chile. Is that a correct assumption and if so then is it a Haas?

The small and flavorful ones are the Hasses, and the large and
flavorless ones are the Florida avocados.

--
AF
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In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

One other question if you don't mind, but this one is about avocados.
The carb counter just mentions half an avocado but it doesn't say the
size, like in weight. I have seen some really large avocados out
there, but most around here are usually on the smallish side I would
say. If a supermarket doesn't say if it is a Florida or a California
Haas one then how do we tell the difference? The ones in the market
now say Chile and I am just assuming that they mean it comes from
Chile. Is that a correct assumption and if so then is it a Haas?

Last summer I started weighing avocados instead of counting by 1 or 1/2
of one. I weigh it before cutting it up, then I weigh the discarded
skin and pit and subtract it from the first weight so that I'm only
counting what I'm actually eating. The USDA nutritional database has a
generic count for all varieties showing 45 calories, 2.39 carbs and 1.9
fiber (.49 net carbs) per one ounce (28 grams) of avocado.

--
Saffire
205/145/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Bev-Ann said:

Tea and coffee both have 0.8g
carbs/cup according to the USDA.

This is my first big shock for 2005! I read your message and said to
myself, "no way" and looked it up myself and you are right. Actually
it's 0.71 carbs/8 fl ounces of brewed tea in distilled water according
to the USDA site. I thought it was more like zero.

So if you are on a 20 carb/day diet and are looking for hidden carbs,
there are some right there if you drink a lot of green tea like I do.

I usually drink a while 1.5 liter bottle per day. That's an extra 4.5
carbs/day I never even thought about - almost one-quarter of my daily
budget! Wow!

What about Diet Coke?

doug

You're very welcome. I don't follow Atkins, but I thought the induction
was only for 2 weeks?

GQ said:

Thanks ever so much. That is really helpful. I had started a week and
half ago but went off it for Christmas day and New years Eve day. But
today I got up and started the induction all over and hope to be on
induction for at least a month. Hopefully I can make it. Thank you for
your help with this though.

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Bev

I drink 3 cups of decaf coffee every morning and didn't worry about it when
I was at the lower carbs. I also drink about a pitcher of Koolaid
sweetened with Sweetzfree which is 0.1g/cup and didn't worry about that
either. It's the only way I got my "water" during the day. :-)
I don't drink pop of any kind but FitDay says 0.35g for a 12 oz. can of
sugar-free cola-type drink. It would be the aspartame and caffeine that
I'd be more worried about if you're trying to lose weight.

Doug Lerner said:

This is my first big shock for 2005! I read your message and said to
myself, "no way" and looked it up myself and you are right. Actually
it's 0.71 carbs/8 fl ounces of brewed tea in distilled water according
to the USDA site. I thought it was more like zero.

So if you are on a 20 carb/day diet and are looking for hidden carbs,
there are some right there if you drink a lot of green tea like I do.

I usually drink a while 1.5 liter bottle per day. That's an extra 4.5
carbs/day I never even thought about - almost one-quarter of my daily
budget! Wow!

What about Diet Coke?

-----
Bev

Saffire said:

Last summer I started weighing avocados instead of counting by 1 or
1/2 of one. I weigh it before cutting it up, then I weigh the
discarded skin and pit and subtract it from the first weight so that
I'm only counting what I'm actually eating.

Why not just weigh what you use instead of subtracting what you don't use
from the total weight?
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In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

Saffire said:

Last summer I started weighing avocados instead of counting by 1 or
1/2 of one. I weigh it before cutting it up, then I weigh the
discarded skin and pit and subtract it from the first weight so that
I'm only counting what I'm actually eating.

Why not just weigh what you use instead of subtracting what you don't use
from the total weight?

Have you ever prepared an avocado? They are smushy, even when they are
relatively firm. Weighing just the innards would be messy. I usually
slice an avocado in half lengthwise, pop out the pit, then cube the
innards, then use a spoon to scoop the cubes into my salad. Works for
ME.

--
Saffire
205/145/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Saffire said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

Saffire said:

Last summer I started weighing avocados instead of counting by 1 or
1/2 of one. I weigh it before cutting it up, then I weigh the
discarded skin and pit and subtract it from the first weight so that
I'm only counting what I'm actually eating.

Why not just weigh what you use instead of subtracting what you don't use
from the total weight?

Have you ever prepared an avocado? They are smushy, even when they are
relatively firm. Weighing just the innards would be messy. I usually
slice an avocado in half lengthwise, pop out the pit, then cube the
innards, then use a spoon to scoop the cubes into my salad. Works for
ME.

er, why can't you just weigh the cubes?

Bev-Ann said:

You're very welcome. I don't follow Atkins, but I thought the induction
was only for 2 weeks?

GQ said:

Thanks ever so much. That is really helpful. I had started a week and
half ago but went off it for Christmas day and New years Eve day. But
today I got up and started the induction all over and hope to be on
induction for at least a month. Hopefully I can make it. Thank you for
your help with this though.

-----
Bev

Many of us did induction for months. I did 3 months myself. It
wont hurt.

pj

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:17:06 +0900, Doug Lerner <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Bev-Ann said:

Tea and coffee both have 0.8g
carbs/cup according to the USDA.

This is my first big shock for 2005! I read your message and said to
myself, "no way" and looked it up myself and you are right. Actually
it's 0.71 carbs/8 fl ounces of brewed tea in distilled water according
to the USDA site. I thought it was more like zero.

So if you are on a 20 carb/day diet and are looking for hidden carbs,
there are some right there if you drink a lot of green tea like I do.

I usually drink a while 1.5 liter bottle per day. That's an extra 4.5
carbs/day I never even thought about - almost one-quarter of my daily
budget! Wow!

What about Diet Coke?

doug

Most of my southern family members drinks tea made this way. Brew 4
or 5 teabags and pour into a large 1 gallon tea pitcher then fill with
water. Some call it tincture rather than tea.

So 8 oz of (iced) tea for me has less than 1/4 of the carbs as my
english friends.

Pj

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Saffire said:

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On 1/1/2005 2:30:10 PM, Saffire wrote:

> Last summer I started weighing avocados instead of counting by 1 or
> 1/2 of one. I weigh it before cutting it up, then I weigh the
> discarded skin and pit and subtract it from the first weight so that
> I'm only counting what I'm actually eating.

Why not just weigh what you use instead of subtracting what you don't

use

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from the total weight?

Have you ever prepared an avocado? They are smushy, even when they are
relatively firm. Weighing just the innards would be messy. I usually
slice an avocado in half lengthwise, pop out the pit, then cube the
innards, then use a spoon to scoop the cubes into my salad. Works for
ME.

er, why can't you just weigh the cubes?

They slide around in a messy way and also make then less appealing to eat,
IMO.

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Quoted message said:

Saffire said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

On 1/1/2005 2:30:10 PM, Saffire wrote:

> Last summer I started weighing avocados instead of counting by 1 or
> 1/2 of one. I weigh it before cutting it up, then I weigh the
> discarded skin and pit and subtract it from the first weight so that
> I'm only counting what I'm actually eating.

Why not just weigh what you use instead of subtracting what you don't use
from the total weight?

Have you ever prepared an avocado? They are smushy, even when they are
relatively firm. Weighing just the innards would be messy. I usually
slice an avocado in half lengthwise, pop out the pit, then cube the
innards, then use a spoon to scoop the cubes into my salad. Works for
ME.

er, why can't you just weigh the cubes?

Why make a mess? I COULD do that, but I choose not to do so.

--
Saffire
205/145/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Roger Zoul said:

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Saffire said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...
> On 1/1/2005 2:30:10 PM, Saffire wrote:
>
> > Last summer I started weighing avocados instead of counting by 1 or
> > 1/2 of one. I weigh it before cutting it up, then I weigh the
> > discarded skin and pit and subtract it from the first weight so that
> > I'm only counting what I'm actually eating.
>
> Why not just weigh what you use instead of subtracting what you don't

use

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> from the total weight?

Have you ever prepared an avocado? They are smushy, even when they are
relatively firm. Weighing just the innards would be messy. I usually
slice an avocado in half lengthwise, pop out the pit, then cube the
innards, then use a spoon to scoop the cubes into my salad. Works for
ME.

er, why can't you just weigh the cubes?

They slide around in a messy way and also make then less appealing to eat,
IMO.

they have these nifty devices called "bowls" that are helpful for
putting food in.

i weigh an avocado three or four times a week, every single week. it's
really not rocket surgery.

Saffire said:

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Saffire <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> On 1/1/2005 2:30:10 PM, Saffire wrote:
>
> > Last summer I started weighing avocados instead of counting by 1
> > or 1/2 of one. I weigh it before cutting it up, then I weigh the
> > discarded skin and pit and subtract it from the first weight so
> > that I'm only counting what I'm actually eating.
>
> Why not just weigh what you use instead of subtracting what you
> don't use from the total weight?

Have you ever prepared an avocado? They are smushy, even when they
are relatively firm. Weighing just the innards would be messy. I
usually slice an avocado in half lengthwise, pop out the pit, then
cube the innards, then use a spoon to scoop the cubes into my salad.
Works for ME.

er, why can't you just weigh the cubes?

Why make a mess? I COULD do that, but I choose not to do so.

do you not put your salad in a bowl? can you not put that bowl on the
scale and determine its weight before adding the avocado? how on earth
is that any messier than weighing your trash?

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

it's really not rocket surgery.

Heh. Nice mix of metaphors there. 🙂
--
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on both sides." - Ted Nugent

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Saffire said:

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Saffire <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> > On 1/1/2005 2:30:10 PM, Saffire wrote:
> >
> > > Last summer I started weighing avocados instead of counting by 1
> > > or 1/2 of one. I weigh it before cutting it up, then I weigh the
> > > discarded skin and pit and subtract it from the first weight so
> > > that I'm only counting what I'm actually eating.
> >
> > Why not just weigh what you use instead of subtracting what you
> > don't use from the total weight?
>
> Have you ever prepared an avocado? They are smushy, even when they
> are relatively firm. Weighing just the innards would be messy. I
> usually slice an avocado in half lengthwise, pop out the pit, then
> cube the innards, then use a spoon to scoop the cubes into my salad.
> Works for ME.

er, why can't you just weigh the cubes?

Why make a mess? I COULD do that, but I choose not to do so.

do you not put your salad in a bowl? can you not put that bowl on the
scale and determine its weight before adding the avocado? how on earth
is that any messier than weighing your trash?

WHY are you making such an issue out of such a simple thing as MY
preferred method of weighing an avocado? It's not the LAW, it's just
the way I've been doing it. It can be done a variety of ways. The
POINT of my post was that it's more accurate to weigh the innards that
will actually consumed than to use a vague measurement for a small,
medium or large avocado. How one chooses to do that really isn't
important.

--
Saffire
205/145/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Tarkus said:

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

it's really not rocket surgery.

Heh. Nice mix of metaphors there. 🙂

thank you. it was quite deliberate. 🙂

Saffire said:

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Saffire said:

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> Saffire <[email hidden]> wrote:
> [email hidden] says...
> > > On 1/1/2005 2:30:10 PM, Saffire wrote:
> > >
> > > > Last summer I started weighing avocados instead of counting by 1
> > > > or 1/2 of one. I weigh it before cutting it up, then I weigh the
> > > > discarded skin and pit and subtract it from the first weight so
> > > > that I'm only counting what I'm actually eating.
> > >
> > > Why not just weigh what you use instead of subtracting what you
> > > don't use from the total weight?
> >
> > Have you ever prepared an avocado? They are smushy, even when they
> > are relatively firm. Weighing just the innards would be messy. I
> > usually slice an avocado in half lengthwise, pop out the pit, then
> > cube the innards, then use a spoon to scoop the cubes into my salad.
> > Works for ME.
>
> er, why can't you just weigh the cubes?

Why make a mess? I COULD do that, but I choose not to do so.

do you not put your salad in a bowl? can you not put that bowl on the
scale and determine its weight before adding the avocado? how on earth
is that any messier than weighing your trash?

WHY are you making such an issue out of such a simple thing as MY
preferred method of weighing an avocado? It's not the LAW, it's just
the way I've been doing it.

i'm NOT making an ISSUE out of it, i'm MOCKING YOU. and the REASON for
that is because YOUR WAY OF WEIGHING AVOCADOS IS ASS-BACKWARDS and
TOTALLY MOCK-WORTHY. you are manufacturing work for yourself. i think
it's kind of hilarious.

ps: i am ALSO mocking your TENDENCY TO USE ALL CAPS to EMPHASIZE THINGS.
just in case you were WONDERING.

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It can be done a variety of ways. The POINT of my post was that it's more
accurate to weigh the innards that will actually consumed

then why don't you actually WEIGH them instead of weighing your TRASH?

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> > On 1/1/2005 2:30:10 PM, Saffire wrote:
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> > > Last summer I started weighing avocados instead of counting by

1 or

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> > > 1/2 of one. I weigh it before cutting it up, then I weigh the
> > > discarded skin and pit and subtract it from the first weight so

that

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> > > I'm only counting what I'm actually eating.
> >
> > Why not just weigh what you use instead of subtracting what you

don't

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use

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> > from the total weight?
>
> Have you ever prepared an avocado? They are smushy, even when they

are

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> relatively firm. Weighing just the innards would be messy. I

usually

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> slice an avocado in half lengthwise, pop out the pit, then cube the
> innards, then use a spoon to scoop the cubes into my salad. Works

for

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> ME.

er, why can't you just weigh the cubes?

They slide around in a messy way and also make then less appealing to

eat,

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IMO.

they have these nifty devices called "bowls" that are helpful for
putting food in.

i weigh an avocado three or four times a week, every single week. it's
really not rocket surgery.

Maybe you're just better at it than she is, and maybe you don't care how
sloppy your food looks. Who knows, and why do you even care?