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Re: Schwinn Airdyne Failures?

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  1. Cauley Felps said:

    Hello,

    I've just reached the end of my third Airdyne and am wondering


    whether

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    or not it's worth moving to the fourth.

    I have to admit, I don't do a very good job of cleaning and tuning
    them up, but I'm sure there are places where they get more abuse than
    here. This last one had the bottom bracket snap in half on one side.


    I

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    believe this is the same thing that happened to number two. I've got
    that one in storage. All the crank parts usually start wearing out


    and

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    get to the point where I can make about a quarter rotation of the
    crank before it catches and turns the wheel.

    I've got a PDF parts list here somewhere, but the prices were kind of
    ridiculous, like 5 dollars for this washer and 30 dollars for one of
    the cranks.

    George- as I said to Andy, the Airdyne uses a crank system that is
    unique. The Airdyne doesn't use a one-piece crank (OPC, as Andy says),
    it uses a multi-part crank to operate the hand levers.

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    From your description, I would guess that the cotter pins that connect


    the different pieces are wearing out. As soon as one develops a little
    play, it will start to wear even more quickly. The key is to check all
    of the cotters for play, and tighten them if there is the slightest
    sign of looseness. (Sheldon Brown has an excellent article about
    cottered cranks: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/cotters.html .)

    If the cotter pins get battered past the point of simply tightening
    them, they should be replaced. Replacement cotter pins should cost
    about a dollar:
    http://www.bikepartsusa.com/view.phtml?f_c=null&f_q=cotter+pin&Go.x=24&Go.y=16

    With luck, this will keep you from buying new Airdynes every time a
    cotter pin fails.

    Jeff

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    Cauley Felps said:

    Jeff, (or anyone)

    Could looseness in the cotter pins or other crank parts cause


    failures

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    like the ones I've experienced? I'm wondering if my neglecting to


    keep

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    all that stuff tight on all the bikes has created extra, abnormal
    stress.

    The type of "clunking" play that Zippy mentions is something I've
    grown used to (maybe not that extreme). Toward the end of my last
    Airdyne, you could pedal backward and forward for about a third of a
    rotation before the wheel would catch. I thought about replacing


    parts

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    on that one and had inspected a bunch of them, but the wear was


    pretty

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    widespread. All the ring inserts in the "pedal to arm" brackets had
    play and most of the crank parts were at the point where they


    couldn't

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    be tightened enough to compensate for the wear inside the crank arms.

    Hmmm... the more I think about it, the less likely I think it's the
    cotter pins. Loose cotters would show up as the crank arms not moving
    with one another- what you're describing sounds more like one of the
    drive sprockets has come loose from its spindle. With the Airdyne's
    two-stage chain drive, it's tough to tell without removing all the
    guards and cover plates and watching while the cranks are turned. There
    might be something that's coming loose that you could tighten up- but I
    don't know *what* without actually diving in, dissassembling, and
    inspecting things. It sounds like yo've done a pretty good job of that
    already.

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    Is it possible that this bottom bracket (axle) part is still the same
    standard type as any other common three piece cranks?

    I don't think so. Without a picture I can't tell. Didn't you say you
    had found a PDF parts list? Where did you find it?

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    I'm still trying to figure out what to do. I feel like a fool to keep
    buying these things if there's something better or more durable out
    there. It also seems that there are a bunch of them out there which
    probably got used for a month after new years and then end up in a
    garage or something (that's where this last one came from), or as a
    once in a while substitute for real bikes during bad weather. That


    may

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    account for why there aren't more worn out ones around, but the
    fitness center Airdynes would still be getting burned up. (?)

    -Thanks!
    George

    I don't think you're being foolish if you're buying them *cheap*. I'd
    bet that there's plenty of low-mileage Airdynes out there that were
    "New Year's resolutions" and are now gathering dust in the garage.

    Possible strategy: find a fitness center ("health club", "gym", etc.)
    that has an Airdyne or two. Ask a manager who services the machines-
    and then track them down and ask about the Airdynes. I'll bet you'll
    get a lot more good information from them than from my (educated)
    guesswork.

    Jeff

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