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  1. I'm trying to check the NASA height survey data against known UK points,
    and I've come up with a major error against OS trig point on Brown Knoll
    "N53.362989, W001.875700, 236.0,Brown Knoll Mh pil pub s2782 K
    Stevens"

    Mh means the height was read from a map (236.0m) .. something must be
    wrong since the height data at that lat/lon is ~540m. Does anyone have a
    map (or MM, or Tracklogs, or whatever) that they can use to see what is
    incorrect .. the position of the trig pillar, or the height given??

    If my OS grid conversion worked right, that's SK08271 85161, more or
    less (but I'm sure several of you can find it in the dark in a blizzard
    anyway). I'm guessing someone typed a '2' instead of a '5' on the
    height, since it makes no sense the trig pillar would not be at the top
    of the hill.

    TIA
    --
    GSV Three Minds in a Can
    Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.

  2. "GSV Three Minds in a Can" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm trying to check the NASA height survey data against known UK


    points,

    Quoted message said:

    and I've come up with a major error against OS trig point on Brown


    Knoll

    Quoted message said:

    "N53.362989, W001.875700, 236.0,Brown Knoll Mh pil pub s2782 K
    Stevens"

    Mh means the height was read from a map (236.0m) .. something must


    be

    Quoted message said:

    wrong since the height data at that lat/lon is ~540m. Does anyone


    have a

    Quoted message said:

    map (or MM, or Tracklogs, or whatever) that they can use to see what


    is

    Quoted message said:

    incorrect .. the position of the trig pillar, or the height given??

    Brown Knoll is 569m

    Graham.

  3. The message <[email hidden]>
    from GSV Three Minds in a Can <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm trying to check the NASA height survey data against known UK points,
    and I've come up with a major error against OS trig point on Brown Knoll
    "N53.362989, W001.875700, 236.0,Brown Knoll Mh pil pub s2782 K
    Stevens"

    Quoted message said:

    Mh means the height was read from a map (236.0m) .. something must be
    wrong since the height data at that lat/lon is ~540m. Does anyone have a
    map (or MM, or Tracklogs, or whatever) that they can use to see what is
    incorrect .. the position of the trig pillar, or the height given??

    Quoted message said:

    If my OS grid conversion worked right, that's SK08271 85161, more or
    less (but I'm sure several of you can find it in the dark in a blizzard
    anyway). I'm guessing someone typed a '2' instead of a '5' on the
    height, since it makes no sense the trig pillar would not be at the top
    of the hill.

    Brown Knoll was about there on the 1" with a height of 1866 feet.
    Funnily enough that height translates into metres as 568.8 so no change
    there. :-)

    Even 536m (1759 feet) would be a distant prospect. The nearest the 1750
    foot contour comes to the trig point is about 300m.

    --
    Roger Chapman

  4. Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful
    person spongebob <[email hidden]> said

    Quoted message said:


    "GSV Three Minds in a Can" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm trying to check the NASA height survey data against known UK


    points,

    Quoted message said:

    and I've come up with a major error against OS trig point on Brown


    Knoll

    Quoted message said:

    "N53.362989, W001.875700, 236.0,Brown Knoll Mh pil pub s2782 K
    Stevens"

    Mh means the height was read from a map (236.0m) .. something must


    be

    Quoted message said:

    wrong since the height data at that lat/lon is ~540m. Does anyone


    have a

    Quoted message said:

    map (or MM, or Tracklogs, or whatever) that they can use to see what


    is

    Quoted message said:

    incorrect .. the position of the trig pillar, or the height given??

    Brown Knoll is 569m

    Thank you kind sir. That makes more sense.

    --
    GSV Three Minds in a Can
    Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.

  5. Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the
    wonderful person Roger <[email hidden]> said

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from GSV Three Minds in a Can <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm trying to check the NASA height survey data against known UK points,
    and I've come up with a major error against OS trig point on Brown Knoll
    "N53.362989, W001.875700, 236.0,Brown Knoll Mh pil pub s2782 K
    Stevens"

    Quoted message said:

    Mh means the height was read from a map (236.0m) .. something must be
    wrong since the height data at that lat/lon is ~540m. Does anyone have a
    map (or MM, or Tracklogs, or whatever) that they can use to see what is
    incorrect .. the position of the trig pillar, or the height given??

    Quoted message said:

    If my OS grid conversion worked right, that's SK08271 85161, more or
    less (but I'm sure several of you can find it in the dark in a blizzard
    anyway). I'm guessing someone typed a '2' instead of a '5' on the
    height, since it makes no sense the trig pillar would not be at the top
    of the hill.

    Brown Knoll was about there on the 1" with a height of 1866 feet.
    Funnily enough that height translates into metres as 568.8 so no change
    there. :-)

    Even 536m (1759 feet) would be a distant prospect. The nearest the 1750
    foot contour comes to the trig point is about 300m.

    I guess it was just a complete [censored] then. Anyway, thanks for the
    info. NASA believe it is 568m, so I guess the OS got that one right. 8>.

    Actually I'm fairly impressed with the NASA SRTM dataset .. apart from
    the annoying voids (mostly small) and the odd rogue point (-230m or
    whatever) it actually matches pretty well. I've tried all 6495 trig
    points I could find position and height data for, and the worst error is
    only 80m
    (Swinden .. N54.04636 W2.03760 .. anyone know it?) with an average error
    of ~5m. Given the NASA data is on 90*45m grid, losing an 80m lump in
    there isn't too bad (although it's quite possible that it's the trig
    point heights or positions which are wrong). It does have a tendency to
    slightly reduce peaks, and fill in valleys, but you'd expect that with a
    coarse grid.

    Now if I can just find some similar trig pillar position/height info for
    Eire and N. Ireland. 8>.

    --
    GSV Three Minds in a Can
    Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.

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