Brake assembly rebuild

Wow! That's why the cost so much.

Alfred Ryder said:

I just finished taking apart, cleaning, and reassembling my Ultrega brakes.
They were three-years old and had 13,300 miles. Not counting the cable and
cable sleeve, there were 61 separate pieces in each of the two assemblies,
assuming I counted correctly. I had expected a couple of screws and a couple
of washers. I think I will let them go for more than three years before I do
it again.

I did my 105 ones last year. I think I'll just dribble oil into the
pivots in future.

I had to(!) rebuild a Campy Record brake from the 70's (crudded up to
the point it wouldn't release quickly). Although I didn't bother with
tearing apart the QR cam, I think I had like 6 parts to deal with.

GO RETRO!!!!

Alfred Ryder said:

I just finished taking apart, cleaning, and reassembling my Ultrega brakes.
They were three-years old and had 13,300 miles. Not counting the cable and
cable sleeve, there were 61 separate pieces in each of the two assemblies,
assuming I counted correctly. I had expected a couple of screws and a couple
of washers. I think I will let them go for more than three years before I do
it again.

Alfred Ryder said:

I just finished taking apart, cleaning, and reassembling my Ultrega brakes.
They were three-years old and had 13,300 miles. Not counting the cable and
cable sleeve, there were 61 separate pieces in each of the two assemblies,
assuming I counted correctly. I had expected a couple of screws and a couple
of washers. I think I will let them go for more than three years before I do
it again.

Dear Alfred,

An exploded diagram for the now-venerable 9mm Glock 17 shows
that a gunsmith can separate it into 34 parts.

The much more elderly 1911 Colt .45 was even more
complicated--48 parts.

Of course, that's the entire pistol, so add 17 or 7 more
parts for ammunition.

If you didn't count the cable and sleeve, I suppose that you
skipped the far end of the brake, too--how many more parts
would you estimate are lurking on one side of the handlebar?

Carl Fogel

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I just finished taking apart, cleaning, and reassembling my Ultrega brakes.
They were three-years old and had 13,300 miles. Not counting the cable and
cable sleeve, there were 61 separate pieces in each of the two assemblies,
assuming I counted correctly. I had expected a couple of screws and a couple
of washers. I think I will let them go for more than three years before I do
it again.

Dear Alfred,

An exploded diagram for the now-venerable 9mm Glock 17 shows
that a gunsmith can separate it into 34 parts.

The much more elderly 1911 Colt .45 was even more
complicated--48 parts.

Of course, that's the entire pistol, so add 17 or 7 more
parts for ammunition.

If you didn't count the cable and sleeve, I suppose that you
skipped the far end of the brake, too--how many more parts
would you estimate are lurking on one side of the handlebar?

Carl Fogel

Why stop there? Now that you have mentioned the handlebar, you are
obligated to count the stem, the bar end plugs, and the tape (usually
four pieces for road bars), and the stem bolts, and the headset races,
and each cute little ball bearing in that headset.

So as not to make other little steel balls feel left out, now you must
enumerate them where they live in hubs, bottom brackets, pedals, and
freewheel/cassette. Spokes, nipples and chains(hundreds of individual
bits!) are of course essential parts of Steve's bike, as are bottle cage
bolts, rim strips, seat rails and axle cone locknuts. Oh, and spoke
washers! Hub shells can be seperated from bearing races, jockey wheels
and their bushings can be parted.

Where does it all end for the lover of bicycle minutiae? For a full
accounting, are we allowed the use of wrenches and presses only, or may
we proceed to oxy-acetylene torches and hacksaws?

Maybe I should ride more.

--
Ted Bennett
Portland, OR

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I just finished taking apart, cleaning, and reassembling my Ultrega

brakes.

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They were three-years old and had 13,300 miles. Not counting the cable

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cable sleeve, there were 61 separate pieces in each of the two

assemblies,

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assuming I counted correctly. I had expected a couple of screws and a

couple

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of washers. I think I will let them go for more than three years before

I do

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it again.

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If you didn't count the cable and sleeve, I suppose that you
skipped the far end of the brake, too--how many more parts
would you estimate are lurking on one side of the handlebar?

Why stop there? Now that you have mentioned the handlebar, you are
obligated to count the stem, the bar end plugs, and the tape (usually
four pieces for road bars), and the stem bolts, and the headset races,
and each cute little ball bearing in that headset.

So as not to make other little steel balls feel left out, now you must
enumerate them where they live in hubs, bottom brackets, pedals, and
freewheel/cassette. Spokes, nipples and chains(hundreds of individual
bits!) are of course essential parts of Steve's bike, as are bottle cage
bolts, rim strips, seat rails and axle cone locknuts. Oh, and spoke
washers! Hub shells can be seperated from bearing races, jockey wheels
and their bushings can be parted.

Where does it all end for the lover of bicycle minutiae? For a full
accounting, are we allowed the use of wrenches and presses only, or may
we proceed to oxy-acetylene torches and hacksaws?

Maybe I should ride more.

Could someone with nothing better to do please pull apart their bicycle and
count the parts? I think the number might be impressive. It would be a clear
statement to those who don't appreciate bikes that they are more than simple
toys for kids. It should be a fairly new bike. And the person would have to
be snowed in for several days and also have the obsessive personality of the
TV character Monk.

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Dear Alfred,

An exploded diagram for the now-venerable 9mm Glock 17 shows
that a gunsmith can separate it into 34 parts.

The much more elderly 1911 Colt .45 was even more
complicated--48 parts.

Of course, that's the entire pistol, so add 17 or 7 more
parts for ammunition.

Carl: I always thought of you as a nice, sincere, helpful guy. I'm still
thinking that, but is there another side to you that I wouldn't want to
discover on a bad day? :>😉

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
IMBA, BikesBelong, NBDA member

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Alfred Ryder said:

I just finished taking apart, cleaning, and reassembling my Ultrega
brakes.
They were three-years old and had 13,300 miles. Not counting the cable and
cable sleeve, there were 61 separate pieces in each of the two assemblies,
assuming I counted correctly. I had expected a couple of screws and a
couple
of washers. I think I will let them go for more than three years before I
do
it again.

Dear Alfred,

An exploded diagram for the now-venerable 9mm Glock 17 shows
that a gunsmith can separate it into 34 parts.

The much more elderly 1911 Colt .45 was even more
complicated--48 parts.

Of course, that's the entire pistol, so add 17 or 7 more
parts for ammunition.

If you didn't count the cable and sleeve, I suppose that you
skipped the far end of the brake, too--how many more parts
would you estimate are lurking on one side of the handlebar?

Carl Fogel

On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:49:48 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain

Reaction Bicycles said:

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Dear Alfred,

An exploded diagram for the now-venerable 9mm Glock 17 shows
that a gunsmith can separate it into 34 parts.

The much more elderly 1911 Colt .45 was even more
complicated--48 parts.

Of course, that's the entire pistol, so add 17 or 7 more
parts for ammunition.

Carl: I always thought of you as a nice, sincere, helpful guy. I'm still
thinking that, but is there another side to you that I wouldn't want to
discover on a bad day? :>😉

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
IMBA, BikesBelong, NBDA member

Dear Mike,

Unfortunately, yes.

Carl Fogel

Carl is *quite* the badass. One merely needs to read his sonnets or
his exploits on his Mt. Fury - aptly named ride for a man with such
butchery to his name.

There oughta be an "Ode to Carl Fogel" - kinda a saddam hussein/burt
reynolds as the bandit sorta song. But with really cheap bicycles and
middle ages english poetry for lyrics.

I bet he packs heat on the Mt. Fury (a .45 for Carl, to be sure).

App

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Carl is *quite* the badass. One merely needs to read his sonnets or
his exploits on his Mt. Fury - aptly named ride for a man with such
butchery to his name.

There oughta be an "Ode to Carl Fogel" - kinda a saddam hussein/burt
reynolds as the bandit sorta song. But with really cheap bicycles and
middle ages english poetry for lyrics.

I bet he packs heat on the Mt. Fury (a .45 for Carl, to be sure).

App

Dear App,

No.

Carl Fogel

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Alfred Ryder said:

I just finished taking apart, cleaning, and reassembling my Ultrega brakes.
They were three-years old and had 13,300 miles. Not counting the cable and
cable sleeve, there were 61 separate pieces in each of the two assemblies,
assuming I counted correctly. I had expected a couple of screws and a couple
of washers. I think I will let them go for more than three years before I do
it again.

Dear Alfred,

Now here you go talking about my favorite gun designers.

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An exploded diagram for the now-venerable 9mm Glock 17 shows
that a gunsmith can separate it into 34 parts.

Gaston Glock saw an opportunity when bids were invited for an Austrian army
service arm, sat down designed himself a gun and did a damfino job of it. Great
blank sheet design. Here's a guy with no firearm experience just applying brain
power and working from first principles. Decent gun too if you don't mind
carrying combat tupperware.

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The much more elderly 1911 Colt .45 was even more
complicated--48 parts.

Damn near 100 years old and still the heavyweight champion. John Moses Browning
has got to be one of the great applied engineering geniuses of all time. He
produced everything from designs for 1870s Winchesters to overseeing his
protege's design for the Browning high power in the 1930s. Almost all of his
designs were produced from a couple sketches for himself and then he'd start
carving metal into shape and deliver a working prototype to the companies who
bought his work. His 50 caliber machine gun is also still in use.

The guys at Shimano and Campagnolo are pretty sharp, but they aren't in the same
league as these fellows. They do have a lot more CAD and science working for
them, but elegance comes from vision and you just don't find that in most modern
work places.

Ron

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Of course, that's the entire pistol, so add 17 or 7 more
parts for ammunition.

If you didn't count the cable and sleeve, I suppose that you
skipped the far end of the brake, too--how many more parts
would you estimate are lurking on one side of the handlebar?

Carl Fogel

Alfred Ryder said:

Could someone with nothing better to do please pull apart their bicycle and
count the parts? I think the number might be impressive.

Received wisdom is that the chain has more than half of them.