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  1. Not extreme but at least we're actually riding....

    http://www.mmba.org/gallery/pontiaclake

  2. On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:33:52 -0500, KLydesdale <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Not extreme but at least we're actually riding....

    http://www.mmba.org/gallery/pontiaclake


    Looks extremely co... co... cold!

    --
    Slacker

  3. "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:33:52 -0500, KLydesdale <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Not extreme but at least we're actually riding....

    http://www.mmba.org/gallery/pontiaclake


    Looks extremely co... co... cold!

    Let's see that was Dec 12. Temps for the day ranged between 30-36 degrees
    F, actually very pleasant temps for winter riding. Once you get the right
    clothing and learn to use it properly, it's really no big deal. The beauty
    of the woods makes the hassle of the extra clothing well worth it. And
    very so often we get a nice surprise - like the time a snowy owl flew down
    the trail ahead of us right at head height. He was so close we could feel
    the wash off his wings.

  4. On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 14:50:00 -0500, KLydesdale <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:33:52 -0500, KLydesdale <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Not extreme but at least we're actually riding....

    http://www.mmba.org/gallery/pontiaclake


    Looks extremely co... co... cold!

    Let's see that was Dec 12. Temps for the day ranged between 30-36
    degrees
    F, actually very pleasant temps for winter riding. Once you get the
    right
    clothing and learn to use it properly, it's really no big deal. The
    beauty
    of the woods makes the hassle of the extra clothing well worth it. And
    very so often we get a nice surprise - like the time a snowy owl flew
    down
    the trail ahead of us right at head height. He was so close we could
    feel
    the wash off his wings.


    That would be very cool. The closet I got to an experience like that was
    nearly getting kicked in the head by a rabid deer, and stocked by a hungry
    puddy cat :-p

    --
    Slacker

  5. "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 14:50:00 -0500, KLydesdale <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:33:52 -0500, KLydesdale <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Not extreme but at least we're actually riding....

    http://www.mmba.org/gallery/pontiaclake


    Looks extremely co... co... cold!

    Let's see that was Dec 12. Temps for the day ranged between 30-36
    degrees
    F, actually very pleasant temps for winter riding. Once you get the
    right
    clothing and learn to use it properly, it's really no big deal. The
    beauty
    of the woods makes the hassle of the extra clothing well worth it. And
    very so often we get a nice surprise - like the time a snowy owl flew
    down
    the trail ahead of us right at head height. He was so close we could
    feel
    the wash off his wings.


    That would be very cool. The closet I got to an experience like that was
    nearly getting kicked in the head by a rabid deer, and stocked by a hungry
    puddy cat :-p

    --
    Slacker

    It's even worse when the deer congregate in the middle of a fast road.

  6. "KLydesdale" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Not extreme but at least we're actually riding....

    77 degrees here right now... I'm sweating just sitting down with the window
    open!

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training

  7. KLydesdale said:

    Not extreme but at least we're actually riding....

    http://www.mmba.org/gallery/pontiaclake

    Cool, I mean cold! The first 2 pics looked liked
    b/w one 'til I had a closer look.

    --
    - Zilla
    Cary, NC
    (Remove XSPAM)

  8. Per KLydesdale:

    Quoted message said:


    http://www.mmba.org/gallery/pontiaclake

    Don't you have trouble with face planting due to the front wheel washing out on
    things like patches of ice or frozen-over wet tree roots?
    --
    PeteCresswell

  9. Now thats a non seasonal Mtber snow. Virgin the best
    way to go and just below freezing makes it even better.

  10. "KLydesdale" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Not extreme but at least we're actually riding....

    http://www.mmba.org/gallery/pontiaclake

    Nice stuff. We just have rain and mud around here (Maryland). Looks like
    its going to stay that way for awhile. Muddy that is.............

    Marty

  11. "(Pete Cresswell)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Per KLydesdale:

    Quoted message said:


    http://www.mmba.org/gallery/pontiaclake

    Don't you have trouble with face planting due to the front wheel washing


    out on

    Quoted message said:

    things like patches of ice or frozen-over wet tree roots?
    --

    On the day those photos were taken, there were no ice patches - only a
    couple of inches of freshly fallen snow. As you can see from some of the
    photos, tires are running right down to the dirt. Roots can be a bit
    slippery when the snow first falls on them but after a couple of riders go
    over, snow get removed and they're really not that much of a problem. If
    we have several successive snowfalls, which gets packed down by riders (and
    hikers and xc skiers) in between, you don't even feel the roots because the
    snow evens the trail out.

    Ice patches are generally only a problem later in the season after a good
    frost layer has formed and we have a quick warm-up/refreeze cycle where the
    snow on the surface melts down, can't drain off due to the frost layer and
    then re-freezes in puddles when the temps get colder. In conditions like
    this, I use my studded tires for safety. With these tires, I've safely
    ridden in conditions where you could have ice-skated on the flatter parts of
    the trail. Luckily the climbs and descents never really get icy because
    the water runs off.

    Riding on through a couple of inches of fresh-fallen snow or on a good
    snowpack has been some of the most fun riding I've done. I've shared this
    fun with several of my friends now by taking them out for their first winter
    rides in these good conditions and they have all commented how amazed they
    were amazed at the traction and control that they had when they expected to
    be slipping and sliding all over the place.

  12. "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 14:50:00 -0500, KLydesdale <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:33:52 -0500, KLydesdale <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    And
    very so often we get a nice surprise - like the time a snowy owl flew
    down
    the trail ahead of us right at head height. He was so close we could
    feel
    the wash off his wings.


    That would be very cool. The closet I got to an experience like that was
    nearly getting kicked in the head by a rabid deer, and stocked by a hungry
    puddy cat :-p

    What was really cool was that I was with a buddy who I'd just convinced to
    start riding with me in the winter. Encountering the owl just made his
    first snow ride all the more memorable.

  13. On 1/9/05 10:54 AM, in article [email hidden],

    KLydesdale said:


    "(Pete Cresswell)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Per KLydesdale:

    Quoted message said:


    http://www.mmba.org/gallery/pontiaclake

    Don't you have trouble with face planting due to the front wheel washing


    out on

    Quoted message said:

    things like patches of ice or frozen-over wet tree roots?
    --

    On the day those photos were taken, there were no ice patches - only a
    couple of inches of freshly fallen snow. As you can see from some of the
    photos, tires are running right down to the dirt. Roots can be a bit
    slippery when the snow first falls on them but after a couple of riders go
    over, snow get removed and they're really not that much of a problem. If
    we have several successive snowfalls, which gets packed down by riders (and
    hikers and xc skiers) in between, you don't even feel the roots because the
    snow evens the trail out.

    Ice patches are generally only a problem later in the season after a good
    frost layer has formed and we have a quick warm-up/refreeze cycle where the
    snow on the surface melts down, can't drain off due to the frost layer and
    then re-freezes in puddles when the temps get colder. In conditions like
    this, I use my studded tires for safety. With these tires, I've safely
    ridden in conditions where you could have ice-skated on the flatter parts of
    the trail. Luckily the climbs and descents never really get icy because
    the water runs off.

    Riding on through a couple of inches of fresh-fallen snow or on a good
    snowpack has been some of the most fun riding I've done. I've shared this
    fun with several of my friends now by taking them out for their first winter
    rides in these good conditions and they have all commented how amazed they
    were amazed at the traction and control that they had when they expected to
    be slipping and sliding all over the place.

    Any recommendations on which studdeds to use? It's been unseasonably nice
    in Maryland/Virginia, but the ice is sure to come

    Quoted message said:
  14. On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:41:55 -0500, charles buki <[email hidden]>
    scribbled:

    Quoted message said:

    Any recommendations on which studdeds to use? It's been unseasonably nice
    in Maryland/Virginia, but the ice is sure to come

    Nokians. It's just not worth toying around with other, cheaper,
    alternatives. You'll save a bit, but you'll regret it later on when
    your value studded tires wear to the point where the studs no longer
    contact the trail. Then they become heavy XC tires. 😉

    -Slash
    --
    "Ebert Victorious"
    -The Onion

  15. On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:33:52 -0500, "KLydesdale"
    <[email hidden]> scribbled:

    Quoted message said:

    Not extreme but at least we're actually riding....

    http://www.mmba.org/gallery/pontiaclake

    More winter antics from some riders up here in AK. I wasn't on any of
    these rides, but I've done the trails a few weeks ago and they're a
    blast with the right conditions (cold, with a hard base).

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=71121

    -Slash
    --
    "Ebert Victorious"
    -The Onion

  16. Per Slash:

    Quoted message said:

    Nokians. It's just not worth toying around with other, cheaper,
    alternatives. You'll save a bit, but you'll regret it later on when
    your value studded tires wear to the point where the studs no longer
    contact the trail.

    Show subject to wearing are they on blacktop? I've got about a 30-minute ride
    on the stuff before I get to where my trails begin.
    --
    PeteCresswell

  17. Slash said:

    On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:33:52 -0500, "KLydesdale"
    <[email hidden]> scribbled:

    Quoted message said:

    Not extreme but at least we're actually riding....

    http://www.mmba.org/gallery/pontiaclake

    More winter antics from some riders up here in AK. I wasn't on any of
    these rides, but I've done the trails a few weeks ago and they're a
    blast with the right conditions (cold, with a hard base).

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=71121

    -Slash
    --
    "Ebert Victorious"
    -The Onion

    Ok, those pictures just made my testicles run & hide inside my body,
    pretending to be ovaries.

    --
    Slacker

  18. "(Pete Cresswell)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Per Slash:

    Quoted message said:

    Nokians. It's just not worth toying around with other, cheaper,
    alternatives. You'll save a bit, but you'll regret it later on when
    your value studded tires wear to the point where the studs no longer
    contact the trail.

    Show subject to wearing are they on blacktop? I've got about a 30-minute


    ride

    Quoted message said:

    on the stuff before I get to where my trails begin.
    --
    PeteCresswell

    My Nokian Mount and Ground tires, which have 160 carbide tipped studs each,
    are going on their sixth winter and the studs are still in very good shape.
    I bought this tires mainly for the riding I do on dirt and paved roads and
    bike paths around my house during the winter so they've seen quite a bit of
    use on pavement. They're not as good as my Nokian Extremes for trail use
    but they do a pretty good job on the stuff like shown in the Pontiac Lake
    photos. I 'd much rather push the Mount and Grounds on the 8 miles of
    pavement between my house and Pontiac Lake.

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